> Don't get me wrong I use KDE all day everyday, and Mozilla is my browser of choice (actually Phoenix is right now), and I do belive in a distributions right to package things as they see fit.
Yeah, I'm in the same boat as you are. I use Konq for file managing and Moz for web browsing.
> BUT to make Mozilla the default browser over Konqueror is quite a slap in the face the KDE developers.
Yes, but on the other hand, I don't see many GNOME developers complaining that Galeon was replaced with Mozilla.
Redhat has the right to do this. It's not that they dislike KDE or it's developers or anything. It's just that they beleive that Mozilla is the better browser right now, and they only want to support one browser. It's nothing new. Redhat chose Netscape over kfm as KDE 1.x's default browser. Of course, Mozilla is much more capable than Netscape 4.x was, and konqueror is much more capable than kfm was, but the analogy holds true still.
Of course, you can't ignore the contributions he's made to KDE. He's a great coder, but needs to grow up. He's discredited not only among KDE developers but also most of the larger community as a while (well, except for the large amount of mosfet fanboys, but that's another matter)
> The math doesn't add up. So either you're using cheap, poor quality parts, or you paid more.
Or perhaps the OEM's are charging more for for the name. It's the common brand name tax. It's common knowledge that homemade machines have a better price/performance ratio than most brand names.
> Try comparing Apples prices to IBMs prices. You get a better deal with Apple.
Uh, that's because IBM hasn't cared much about home consumers in nearly 5 years. They cater mostly to buisnesses.
Anyways, my homemade box, which is probably much higher quality than anything Apple or IBM make, is much cheaper too. You can use cheap OEM parts in your homemade box. OEM's such as Apple and IBM (and especially Dell and Compaq/HP) usually use cheaper and lower quality OEM parts than yours.
I don't think KDE3 is very good for slow hardware personally, although I did run it on my Apple-clone 200mhz PPC-603e for years, and that's much slower than your pII-133 (604~=pII). You might just want to use GNOME or KDE2 on it. It's weird because KDE3 runs much faster on my Athlon 2200+. Go figure.
You might have better luck with KDE3 if you just put the following in your.xinitrc:
I still miss the first version of themes.org. It seemed to have the most usable interface, and the widest support for different Window managers and desktops. Now that KDE and GNOME both have their own themes sites, everything has become fragmented. There is no universal place to get themes for X11 anymore.
Oh yeah, for me, and a lot of other people, the themes @ freshmeat don't cut it.
Well, if the person who moderated you replies to your post, their moderation to the post gets cancelled. Anyways, it was probably moderated funny because you put in " ". Preview next time.
Of course, this is no reason to moderate it funny. Oh well, karma isn't that important anymore anyways.:-d
If the nimrod were to just swoop past the women (or Scottish man), this would definatly not be held up under harassment laws. Under current laws, it'd be similiar to taking someone's picture in a public place.
Of course, if it goes out of control, fully expect legislatures and city councils to ban such behavior through city ordinances and laws. I beleive most such anti-voyeur legislation is actually done in the city level right now. However, while private and quasi-public places (public bathrooms, dressing rooms, changing rooms, etc), are pretty well protected, most public locations are not.
Alright, perhaps I should clarify a bit. I _should_ have said, that MacOSX=ppc hardware only=not worth the money for many people with massive investments in x86 hardware.
> I guess you felt a compulsion to combine a gratuitous insult.
A gratuituous tongue-in-cheek insult, perhaps. Anyways, my original post was quite non-serious. I do not expect Apple to ship me free PPC hardware.
> Thanks for proving the guy's point.
What was the point or assertion made? That I should "stop wasting bandwidth"? I'm sorry, but that sounds pretty much like a gratutious insult.
Speaking of tightvnc, is there any plans to merge it back into the main branch of vnc now that it's back in development?
Now-a-days, I only use tightvnc, even when I'm mainly using high-speed to high-speed (or lan) connection. However, it'd be nice to have new features and bug fixes from the main vnc distribution.
It's a centaur core, cyrix name. Cyrix had more brand recognition and centaur had slightly better chips (although cyrix came out with some cool stuff too).
Not sure about 800mhz part, but a 1ghz C3 is about equivalent to a 800mhz celeron in int tests, and vastly worse in float tests.
It seems that it has a horrible FPU, and fairly decent ALU. Hey, it's 200$ for the whole machine, not bad if all you want to do is web browse, play 2d games, check email and go on AOL chat rooms:p
But I agree, this is not good avertising to call it similiar to a 800mhz celeron (or 850mhz duron, which is even more far fetched).
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> Don't get me wrong I use KDE all day everyday, and Mozilla is my browser of choice (actually Phoenix is right now), and I do belive in a distributions right to package things as they see fit.
Yeah, I'm in the same boat as you are. I use Konq for file managing and Moz for web browsing.
> BUT to make Mozilla the default browser over Konqueror is quite a slap in the face the KDE developers.
Yes, but on the other hand, I don't see many GNOME developers complaining that Galeon was replaced with Mozilla.
Redhat has the right to do this. It's not that they dislike KDE or it's developers or anything. It's just that they beleive that Mozilla is the better browser right now, and they only want to support one browser. It's nothing new. Redhat chose Netscape over kfm as KDE 1.x's default browser. Of course, Mozilla is much more capable than Netscape 4.x was, and konqueror is much more capable than kfm was, but the analogy holds true still.
You really beleive what _mosfet_ has to say?
Of course, you can't ignore the contributions he's made to KDE. He's a great coder, but needs to grow up. He's discredited not only among KDE developers but also most of the larger community as a while (well, except for the large amount of mosfet fanboys, but that's another matter)
> The math doesn't add up. So either you're using cheap, poor quality parts, or you paid more.
Or perhaps the OEM's are charging more for for the name. It's the common brand name tax. It's common knowledge that homemade machines have a better price/performance ratio than most brand names.
> Try comparing Apples prices to IBMs prices. You get a better deal with Apple.
Uh, that's because IBM hasn't cared much about home consumers in nearly 5 years. They cater mostly to buisnesses.
Anyways, my homemade box, which is probably much higher quality than anything Apple or IBM make, is much cheaper too. You can use cheap OEM parts in your homemade box. OEM's such as Apple and IBM (and especially Dell and Compaq/HP) usually use cheaper and lower quality OEM parts than yours.
> Also, in the RC5 contest, the G4s were 41% faster than Athlon XP
Uhm, seriously? All you do is RC5 crack all day? sounds like a waste of money to me.
I don't think KDE3 is very good for slow hardware personally, although I did run it on my Apple-clone 200mhz PPC-603e for years, and that's much slower than your pII-133 (604~=pII). You might just want to use GNOME or KDE2 on it. It's weird because KDE3 runs much faster on my Athlon 2200+. Go figure.
.xinitrc:
You might have better luck with KDE3 if you just put the following in your
kdesktop&
kicker&
exec kwin
That should load up in about twenty seconds.
If you had taken English 201, you would have known that "you'd" is not proper English.
Ah very nice. Never heard of it before. Perhaps it should be posted to slashdot :o (hey, if art.gnome is, then a more general solution should too)
I still miss the first version of themes.org. It seemed to have the most usable interface, and the widest support for different Window managers and desktops. Now that KDE and GNOME both have their own themes sites, everything has become fragmented. There is no universal place to get themes for X11 anymore.
Oh yeah, for me, and a lot of other people, the themes @ freshmeat don't cut it.
Well, if the person who moderated you replies to your post, their moderation to the post gets cancelled. Anyways, it was probably moderated funny because you put in "
:-d
". Preview next time.
Of course, this is no reason to moderate it funny. Oh well, karma isn't that important anymore anyways.
The key words are "so far". Folks, this is just the beginning of OCWare. At least it's not vapour-ware anymore :-)
If the nimrod were to just swoop past the women (or Scottish man), this would definatly not be held up under harassment laws. Under current laws, it'd be similiar to taking someone's picture in a public place.
Of course, if it goes out of control, fully expect legislatures and city councils to ban such behavior through city ordinances and laws. I beleive most such anti-voyeur legislation is actually done in the city level right now. However, while private and quasi-public places (public bathrooms, dressing rooms, changing rooms, etc), are pretty well protected, most public locations are not.
> It literally ruins any protocol that isn't HTTP.
Then they aren't using a packetshaper. They only depriortize packets, not "ruin" them.
timbuktu? why not using something like vnc/tightvnc?
I remember tb2 five years ago, heh.
No, it's not true.
Alright, perhaps I should clarify a bit. I _should_ have said, that MacOSX=ppc hardware only=not worth the money for many people with massive investments in x86 hardware.
> I guess you felt a compulsion to combine a gratuitous insult.
A gratuituous tongue-in-cheek insult, perhaps. Anyways, my original post was quite non-serious. I do not expect Apple to ship me free PPC hardware.
> Thanks for proving the guy's point.
What was the point or assertion made? That I should "stop wasting bandwidth"? I'm sorry, but that sounds pretty much like a gratutious insult.
No, the point I was trying to make is that MacOSX=ppc hardware only=not worth the money. Of course, morons like you don't get that ;p
The only thing better about RDC than VNC is app level sharing. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there is any way to do it with VNC (yet).
I'd have to agree that VNC isn't exactly good on dialup connections or even ISDN.
However, this is what tightvnc is for. Regular VNC works very well in a LAN though, and works quite well from every broadband connection I've used.
Speaking of tightvnc, is there any plans to merge it back into the main branch of vnc now that it's back in development?
Now-a-days, I only use tightvnc, even when I'm mainly using high-speed to high-speed (or lan) connection. However, it'd be nice to have new features and bug fixes from the main vnc distribution.
if apple gave us free mac hardware :)
It's a centaur core, cyrix name. Cyrix had more brand recognition and centaur had slightly better chips (although cyrix came out with some cool stuff too).
Don't forget ut2k3, which will probably become the most popular competitive FPS soon.
Not sure about 800mhz part, but a 1ghz C3 is about equivalent to a 800mhz celeron in int tests, and vastly worse in float tests.
:p
It seems that it has a horrible FPU, and fairly decent ALU. Hey, it's 200$ for the whole machine, not bad if all you want to do is web browse, play 2d games, check email and go on AOL chat rooms
But I agree, this is not good avertising to call it similiar to a 800mhz celeron (or 850mhz duron, which is even more far fetched).
Perhaps it's for new Linux or computer users. This is what Lindows is geared for anyways.
:x
They probably used Lindows/Linux so they wouldn't have to pay Microsoft for a windows license in a 200$ PC
Anyways, this proves a point, Linux can be made so it's not just for geeks.