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O'Reilly Publishing Mac OS X for Unix Geeks

vi-rocks writes "A new O'Reilly book is due for release in October: Mac OS X for Unix Geeks. Brian Jepson and Ernest Rothman are the authors. Details about the book (including a sample chapter) are available on the website. Note the sash on the top right hand of the cover reads 'Switching to Mac OS X.' They say you can't judge a book by it cover -- HUMBUG!, I've already pre-ordered :)" The sample chapter information on NetInfo has helped me already.

71 comments

  1. hmm by fredopalus · · Score: 1

    I guess the people at O'Reilly are finally realizing what they are: geeks.

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    1. Re:hmm by jeblucas · · Score: 1
      I guess the people at O'Reilly are finally realizing what they are: geeks.

      Oh really? You think so?

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    2. Re:hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ok, that's pretty good.

  2. META: Please flag PDF-links by RobotWisdom · · Score: 2, Offtopic
    In my ongoing campaign to encourage the creation of a styleguide for Slashdot blurbs, I'd like to point out again that the link to the sample chapter in this blurb will be a 'gotcha' for many readers, who need to give PDFs special handling (or skip them).

    Just marking it [pdf] would be a big help, for minimal effort. (See my other recent replies for similar style suggestions.)

    1. Re:META: Please flag PDF-links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
      *cough* Look at your browser's status bar. *cough*

      Seriously, though, I'd rather a see an info-on-hover system honored than have to filter out tons of explicit metadata like [PDF] while skimming an article.

    2. Re:META: Please flag PDF-links by RobotWisdom · · Score: 1, Offtopic
      "tons of explicit metadata"

      The rule is very simple: minimise 'gotchas'. Any non-standard file-format deserves explicit tagging.

      "Look at your browser's status bar"

      This is just inconsiderate interface-design. Nobody really wants to have to hover-and-peek before every click.

    3. Re:META: Please flag PDF-links by Louis_Wu · · Score: 1

      One possibility: put [PDF] in the title, which pops up next to your cursor (depending on which browser you use). That way, you can hover over the link, and not have to peer at the status line every time you click, but the subtle warning is still there: [PDF]. Too bad slashdot doesn't do titles much, if at all.

    4. Re:META: Please flag PDF-links by vsync64 · · Score: 1
      This is just inconsiderate interface-design. Nobody really wants to have to hover-and-peek before every click.

      A few minor points:

      • The Web site isn't supposed to dictate interface. Interface is up to the browser. Web sites consist of text and links. It's up to the user agent to determine how to present the embedded metadata.
      • That's the point of the status bar. If you find it too difficult to glance at the bottom of the screen, use a browser that lets you reposition the status bar. Or you could hack an existing one.
      • Obviously you haven't been on Slashdot that long.
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    5. Re:META: Please flag PDF-links by RobotWisdom · · Score: 3, Funny
      "Obviously you haven't been on Slashdot that long."

      Without even hovering or peeking you should have noticed that my User# is 25776 while yours is 155958.

    6. Re:META: Please flag PDF-links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And how much did you pay for the account on EBay?

  3. Online Resources - (Share Windows Printers) by stu42j · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I am helping my folks setup their new iMac and I have found Apple's switch site to be rather light on the detail. I don't have time to wait for a book. Are there any good, technical websites for helping people switch Windows to Mac - and use both at the same time?

    For example, I want to share a non-poscript printer connected to a Windows machine, with the Mac. I am assuming that it must be possible since OSX is based on Unix and Unix can do it. I know that I probably need to install Ghostscript but I don't know what to do after that. Any suggestions?

    1. Re:Online Resources - (Share Windows Printers) by Juanvaldes · · Score: 1

      Look up info on CUPS.

    2. Re:Online Resources - (Share Windows Printers) by qengho · · Score: 4, Informative

      Are there any good, technical websites for helping people switch Windows to Mac - and use both at the same time?

      Dunno about helping switchers, but MacWindows has lots of stuff about interoperating.

    3. Re:Online Resources - (Share Windows Printers) by diverman · · Score: 4, Informative

      Take a look at the gimp-print project. Has lots of drivers.

      I heard that it enables the Samba abilities of CUPS with the installation. It actually only takes a single symbolic link that Apple seems to have "left out" of the release. Once that's installed follow gimp-print's instructions on installing Samba shared printers.

      Also, this is a posting with the link, should you need to create it manually. You don't have to use the web-based CUPS admin utility like stated. You can use the standard "Add Printer" in advanced mode (gimp-print explains). Read some of the follow-up posts, as they discus printing both ways (to and from a Mac).

      Hope that helps.
      -Alex

    4. Re:Online Resources - (Share Windows Printers) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some info on sharing printers is available at MacSlash.

  4. Linux users would switch.... by fault0 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    if apple gave us free mac hardware :)

    1. Re:Linux users would switch.... by SN74S181 · · Score: 1

      I'd consider switching if there were, oh, two or three brands of PPC-based motherboards to choose from. ATX form factor, please.

    2. Re:Linux users would switch.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
      if apple gave us free mac hardware :)

      I'd switch to Windows if Dell gave me free hardware. OK, no I wouldn't but that just shows you how stupid this comment is and Linux users keep throwing out there. Yeah, yeah, all you want is a free operating system, free applications, and top-notch free hardware....Please give me a break! Stop wasting bandwidth with dumb-ass comments like this.

      I'd also drive a BMW if they would just give me one for free....

    3. Re:Linux users would switch.... by yack0 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Don't lump me in with you. I've already switched from a linux desktop to a Mac OS X iBook and use it daily at work. I still use linux for servers, but for my workstation, I have an iBook and I couldn't be happier.

      I've never been a big X user, so I'm not hung up on 'it doesnt work like X' complaints that hold back many people.

      Linux users ARE swtiching, but from my view, they're keeping their servers linux and adding their OS X desktops. Of course, my stats for that are about as scientific as OReilly's. :)

      $.02

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    4. Re:Linux users would switch.... by fault0 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      No, the point I was trying to make is that MacOSX=ppc hardware only=not worth the money. Of course, morons like you don't get that ;p

    5. Re:Linux users would switch.... by reallocate · · Score: 2

      He said: Stop wasting bandwidth with dumb-ass comments...

      You said: ...MacOSX=ppc hardware only=not worth the money. Of course, morons like you don't get that.

      I guess you felt a compulsion to combine a gratuitous insult with an unsupportable assertion. Thanks for proving the guy's point.

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    6. Re:Linux users would switch.... by Alex+Thorpe · · Score: 1

      That's your opinion. Mine is that Mac hardware is the only type I'll ever spend money on again. Of course, that would have more meaning if I wasn't so broke right now...

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    7. Re:Linux users would switch.... by fault0 · · Score: 2

      Alright, perhaps I should clarify a bit. I _should_ have said, that MacOSX=ppc hardware only=not worth the money for many people with massive investments in x86 hardware.

      > I guess you felt a compulsion to combine a gratuitous insult.

      A gratuituous tongue-in-cheek insult, perhaps. Anyways, my original post was quite non-serious. I do not expect Apple to ship me free PPC hardware.

      > Thanks for proving the guy's point.

      What was the point or assertion made? That I should "stop wasting bandwidth"? I'm sorry, but that sounds pretty much like a gratutious insult.

    8. Re:Linux users would switch.... by mrjohnson · · Score: 1

      Nah, a few people are switching hardware platforms but I think plenty of people are installing Linux.

    9. Re:Linux users would switch.... by starman97 · · Score: 2

      It works just like X once you install DarwinX..
      I pull up apps using ssh -X on remote Solaris boxes
      all the time, either rootless to my Aqua desktop,
      or to a Alt-del switched fullscreen Xwindow desktop.
      If I want to run the apps on the Mac, I'll get them using Fink. All of this, I found on the Apple OSX website under UNIX tools. Sinple point and click, no edits or typing needed to set it all up other than
      >setenv DISPLAY -ip-.0:0 on the remote
      and
      >xhost -remoteip- on the mac..

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  5. Big Problem by extrasolar · · Score: 1, Troll

    Does have a CD of the OS included?

    1. Re:Big Problem by DavidRavenMoon · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Does [it] have a CD of the OS included?

      Does a book about Photoshop (or insert your favorite software here) come with Photoshop?

      Of course not.

      Maybe some Linux books do, but this isn't Linux.

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  6. Re:This is slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Money! That's all I ever hear from you idiots when anyone talks about any operating system! How much money does it cost? Oh, sure, Linux is completely unusable to the average human being, but that just gives us a reason to mock them for being idiots!

    I have to wonder if, back when cars were first being introduced as a consumer product, mechanics sat around and did this.

    "Starters? REAL motorists know how to crank the engine BY HAND!"
    "If you don't know how to mix your oil and gasoline yourself, get off the road."
    "You don't NEED an automatic transmission. Why are we wasting time talking about this instead of advancing clutch technology."

    Salon is a wonderful gathering place for all kinds of tech news. Keep up the good work.

  7. Re:This is slashdot by JabberWokky · · Score: 2
    Not if you want a laptop - then Apple's hardware is cheaper for the equivelent capabilities, and their highend laptops are arguably the best out there. And you can either run Linux on them, or just run your Linux apps via apt-get.

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  8. "Switching to MacOS X" = "A UNIX Hackers Guide" by diverman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I think it's interesting that the sash on Amazon's site (particularly in the larger image) is different than the link in this post.

    Instead of "Switching to MacOS X", Amazon reads "A UNIX Hackers Guide". Weird.

    I wonder what that's all about.

    -Alex

    1. Re:"Switching to MacOS X" = "A UNIX Hackers Guide" by NeuroKoan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It also says "Mac OS X for Unix Developers" not "Unix Geeks" (like in the original link). Maybe amazon got a press kit for an earlier version of the book....

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    2. Re:"Switching to MacOS X" = "A UNIX Hackers Guide" by jgennick · · Score: 2, Informative

      Covers sometimes get changed after they've gone out to Amazon and other electronic book sites. Getting corrections out takes some time and is more difficult than you might expect.

    3. Re:"Switching to MacOS X" = "A UNIX Hackers Guide" by jeblucas · · Score: 1

      What a superhot collectible that item will be! eBay here I come!

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  9. Re:This is slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And how do you hook up a two or three button touchpad to a Mac laptop? Please don't tell me about software hacks to get some key to act as a second button, and don't tell me to carry around a USB mouse wherever I take my laptop.

  10. Re: Yay! by realgone · · Score: 3, Funny
    And under the Apple section no less! The audacity!

    Those lil' checkboxes are there in the preferences for a reason. Feel free to use 'em.

  11. Re:This is slashdot by NeuroKoan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    First off, Its not a software hack, its built into the os.

    Secondly, get over it.

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  12. Re:This is slashdot by Toraz+Chryx · · Score: 2, Insightful

    what is a "key" ?... could it perhaps be "a button"

    So you're suggesting that it's a "hack" to make a button act like a... button?...

  13. Re:Yay! by derch · · Score: 1

    Ummm... It's an article about an O'Reilly book. That's an advert for O'Reilly really.

    'sides, like the reply above me, this *is* the Apple section. Don't visit a Ford dealership if you're looking for a Chevy.

  14. Sorry, but Mac OS X is popular in the geek world. by Xenex · · Score: 3, Informative

    Incase you've been in a cave, on Mars, with your eyes closes, and you fingers in your ears, Mac OS X has become an OS that many geeks are interested in.

    Because of this, there have been a hell of a lot of Mac OS X related stories on Slashdot lately? Why? Because Slashdot covers "News For Nerds".

    However, it is understandable that not everyone is interested in Mac OS X, Apple, or anything at all related. That's why Slashdot has stories put into sections, and you can then change your preferences to not show sections you're not interested in.

    Now, if you can't even figure out how to change your preferences not to show Apple related stories, you're probably not capable of using most of the software that is talked about on Slashdot.

    So, get into your preferences, and check the following boxes:

    Apple
    Desktops (Apple)
    iMac (Apple)
    Media (Apple)
    Networking (Apple)
    OS 9 (Apple)
    OS X (Apple)
    Portables (Apple)
    Technology (Apple)
    Utilities (Apple)
    Wireless (Apple)

    Those topics cover every single Apple related story on Slashdot, and with them checked you should never see them again.

    And, before you ask why there are so many Apple related sections, it is because there is a lot of stories in the Apple section of Slashdot that cover all of those topics. To keep people like you that don't want to see Apple related stories happy, while still not giving each story a generic Apple icon, new topics were added with (Apple) appended. This was done so people like you could exclude them.

    Now, you've been empowered. Use this knowledge well. With any luck, we'll never see you post in an Apple story ever again. And if we do, we'll know you're doing it by choice...

  15. I hate PDF by daviddennis · · Score: 2

    Is there any way on the MacOS X PDF reader, or Acrobat for that matter, to display the document as a single scrolling page of text?

    It drives me nuts to browse by paper page, since inevitablby my screen is just a shade shorter than a complete page, and so I have to scroll down to the rest of page 1 and then move to page 2. It's an incredibly akward way to read.

    Anyone find a decent solution to this?

    D

    1. Re:I hate PDF by sydsavage · · Score: 1

      You mean like the 'Continuous Scrolling' item under the View menu?

    2. Re:I hate PDF by DavidRavenMoon · · Score: 2
      OS X is a bad place to be if you hate PDF.

      Tried taking a screen shot lately?

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    3. Re:I hate PDF by pauljlucas · · Score: 1
      Is there any way on the MacOS X PDF reader, or Acrobat for that matter, to display the document as a single scrolling page of text?
      You apparently didn't notice the "Continuous Scrolling" menu item on the View menu.
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  16. news for nerds, not news for... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it says slashdot: news for nerds. and this qualifies as that, It doesn't say news for stuck up linux assholes with a bug in their ass for anything not 100% free.

    1. Re: news for nerds, not news for... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do people walk away from you when you speak?

  17. Re:Yay! by tsaotsao · · Score: 1

    Don't visit a Ford dealership if you're looking for a Chevy




    Or alternatively don't visit either if you're looking for a decent car. Mopar baby!

  18. Re:This is slashdot by Theom · · Score: 0

    I would rather have this one.

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  19. Don't they really need a book the other way around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Mac OS X has those old OS 9 people running scared.
    They know that the evil command line and a swag of unixy software is under the hood - but they don't want to mess with it. That's why they want lovely gui installs for stuff like PHP and MySQL ;)

    But do you teach them emacs or vi?

    People who know unix can quickly come to grips with OS X. Its only a matter of figuring out what wierd directory stuff goes into. What they will get confused with is Microsoft Office X.
    Also seeing a gui environment running all the time will surprise them.

    I just wish that Terminal.app wouldn't unexpectedly quit on me (with the old error message style that will allow os 9 users to fell at home).

  20. What's up with the dog? by alispguru · · Score: 2

    Surely they could have picked a better cover animal than a hunting dog (with the "this old dog won't hunt" association, maybe?).

    I'm not sure what to propose as an alternative, though. Clarus is clearly old-school Mac OS, and a jaguar would be too specific to 10.2. Ideas, anyone?

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    1. Re:What's up with the dog? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a scorpion. a bit of a sting in the tail.

    2. Re:What's up with the dog? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I assumed that the spottedness of this dog was, in fact, the closest O'Reilly could get to Clarus while maintaining their real animal cover theme.

  21. Re:Yay! by Lars+T. · · Score: 1, Troll

    Another whiny post by Perdo. What's up, did Steve Jobs kill your dog?

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  22. one continuous page by stego · · Score: 2

    In Acrobat Reader, select 'View->Continuous' on the menu bar. Preview on OS X has a similar setting in a similar place.

    Or did you mean something else?

  23. Re:Apple Laptop Keyboards Unsuitable for Unix User by rjung2k · · Score: 1

    Anyone too stupid to be unable to adjust to a keyboard with the control key somewhere else deserves nothing but contempt for being an inflexible fool.

    And whining about a keyboard layout as a reason not to switch computers merely shows how truly pathetic you must be.

  24. Re:Apple Laptop Keyboards Unsuitable for Unix User by nonsuchworks · · Score: 3, Informative

    In an on-going email exchange I am having with an Apple employee (whom I won't name) in their marketing department,

    First of all, the vast majority of Apple employees have no idea what is going on in the company at large. And Apple historically regards its marketing people as little more than a necessary nuisance; marketing people are often the last to find out about anything.

    Unless it comes from an engineer, be very skeptical. Otherwise just be reasonably skeptical.

    the Apple marketing person directly stated to me that Apple was catering to their historic Mac customers, and is purposely ignoring the Unix market.

    Apple probably figures Unix users are resourceful enough to fill their own needs, instead of stomping their feet and complaining.

    Apple has about 20 or so million users who still haven't upgraded to OS X. It is simply good business sense to get the majority of the user base migrated before staking out new territory. And your anonymous Apple employee got it wrong. Apple is not just catering to their own users; they're trying to woo Windows users too. Even a small percentage of this market could mean millions of new Apple customers. It is good business (hey, there's that phrase again) to begin making overtures to the Windows market and to leave the Unix market, which is a much savvier and more self-reliant (not to mention smaller) class of users, to itself for now.

    He also claimed that Apple would soon start paying more attention to the Unix market. I won't hold my breath.

    So all that effort to update the BSD layer and add gcc 3.1 was just to make Windows users jealous?

    Apple has been ignoring Unix users for more than 12 years.

    Apple didn't have a proper Unix-based OS until 2001. Apple was shrewd enough to figure that most Unix-heads weren't going to be migrating in droves to System 7, and so concentrated on the markets where it was strong: publishing and multimedia.

    Also note that my Apple contact indicated that Macs would never ship with a 3-button mouse

    Apple could be ready to ship a 3-button mouse next week and your contact wouldn't know a thing. See above.

    I can't believe people still insist on making an issue of the freakin' mouse. Even if Apple never ships one (which I don't consider a certainty, as the system requirements for Shake include a 3-buttoner), you can buy one for under $30. Or just plug in the one you're currently using; OS X will recognize it without any additional drivers.

    And not to be churlish, but it seems like a lot of users have successfully transitioned to OS X even in spite of the bad ol' CTRL button.

  25. Re:META: Please flag PDF-links - OMFG communisty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are such an ebay account buyer. You think the ealier you were reading the *shit* on slashdot, the better you are? as if to say you are worth more than others based on UID? How about you may have a low UID but barely ever read comments, something that seems quite possible given your ridiculous floundering and inability to even argue with any degree of efficacy. I am apalled as usual, with the snarky, combative and intelectually weak arguments of flames and contrarians and totalitarians and mediocritomatons that infect this communisty, communist-community. Your kind are not long for this world, and those who are wanting are here for the asking, ye shall recieve the reaming thou desires.

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  27. Re:Sorry,but Mac OS X is popular in the vermillion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, he hasn't been on mars, his eyes aren't closed and his fingers weren't in his ears, you jerk-off pathetic snarky troll. If geeks like s OS X then the terms geek and intelligent must be mutually exclusive.

    About you defining what this site is, who made you king shit of tird island, ass crease? Why don't you take your totalitarian attitude and cram it up your ass. I tried OS X - G4, 1GB memory, 8MB buffer IDE drive (SCSI doesn't come with these pieces of SHIT anymore), aftermarket video card (because the ones that come with a G4 suck rat dick.) If you think OS X is the "shit," you suck too hard to install FreeBSD. What the fuck is in it for you? A half assed userland and commercial applications that cost a fucking arm and a leg. And the mach kernel was kicked down the stairs of Carnegie Mellon (CMU retard) in 1994. The userland is FreeBSD 3.2. SNORE. The UI is not Apple, and its not Windows, and its not Unix. Its something that pisses Mac Heads off (but they won't say it because of this zealot loyalty to Steve idiot thief Jobs), makes windows users feel WEAK, and most unix users will just laugh at it.

    Hey, MAC zealots. Try this: Open about 25+ applications (doesn't matter), and then check CPU, even with OS 10.2.1. Go ahead. All I have to say is: HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH. Fucking HAHAHAHAH. Those programs are idle, yet the CPU usage is floored. No wonder you need multiple CPUs. And the G4 from Motorola. HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA. I have benched it myself with a few industry standard metrics, from SPEC CPU2000 to OpenSSL, and I have but one word for the G4 - CRAP.

    If geeks like OS X, they must like getting fucked for hardware. Apple zealots drive up used Ebay Apples. PPC is slow shit, and the price never comes down.

    Stop telling me about Slashdot you fucking troll. You are rude, condescending and you sounds realy fucking stupid. The kind of small dicked sexless jerk at a bar I'd love to punch in the teeth.

    If he can figure out. Of course he can, he has been here some time.

    If you think you will ever go to a place of work and get paid to fuck around on a Mac, you would be wrong. And of all the layoffs I have seen (and I've never been laid off, not even in the valley, not even now in the worst of times), the Mac fucks get canned first. Why? They suck. Like you do, you fucking pretend unix users.

    No Unix master would be caught dead opting in on using that OS X crap. Darwin is fucking useless - doesn't work on anything else but PPC for shit.. Microkernels and messaging micro kernels are pass*. The only people you see using this crap are zealots and names bought off by Apple to say its great when its bloated, inadequate and runs on inferior hardware. Half the speed, twice the price baby.

    And you fucking Apple cretins, using IE and Microsoft Office all the time. You cretins. You think you think different? Yeah, most people like to save a buck and not feed the fucking demon of the computing world with solicitation and usership.

    Apple is better and being Microsoftish that MSFT. They buy out companies to stop the win32 port. They don't allow clones. The rip you off on hardware AND software. They have high failure rates. They have overpriced and shoddy warranties, with no on site service (Dell is about 10X the service level of Apple, and that's not even that great). And when I walk by Apples frozen at a kernel trap/panic message at Fry's, I chuckle, and think about the stupid, fathead idiots that buy this shit and think they are as good as the users of FreeBSD (or maybe linux).

    Stupid. Fat. Loser.

  28. Re:Don't they really need a book the other way aro by Yarn · · Score: 2

    If you run the console.app it'll grab stack traces of things that crash. Doesn't really help as I lack the source to terminal.app, but it is vaguely consoleing.

    (-50,000, pun)

    --
    -Yarn - Rio Karma: Excellent
  29. Re:Apple Laptop Keyboards Unsuitable for Unix User by scotto · · Score: 1

    > Apple laptops are effectively unusable for unix users.

    Not all Unix users use emacs! :-) As a vi user, and a user of Apple laptops, I don't have any problem with the placement of the Control key.