We might really see a change in authority here, this article from the Salt Lake Tribune mentions that "benefited substantially from IBM's long-running relationship with SuSE." IBM has been in the race for a while, but it looks like all the big boys are now coming out to play. It'll be interesting to see what happens.
The supply is limited by the musicians and their record labels because they want to make money! I say it is their right to do that. You say it is your right to take what you could not create yourself.
So far as the politics, it's probably off topic, but independents (I'm labeling you here, I know) are people who do not understand the political system we have here in America. They get really upset, make a lot of noise in discussions, and they really seem to love internet forums where everybody's voice is heard just as loud as another's. However, our government doesn't work that way. We are not a mob rules democracy and when you try to be an island in a representative democracy, you lose. You might make the internet appear a lot more liberal than it really is because you are really vocal, but what victory is that really? I don't anticipate you'll get your way with the RIAA any time soon. When it comes to legislation, your vote is not among the counted; your representative's vote is among the counted. So unless you find some friends, you're never going to get the guy in there that will support your ideals.
On another point, evidence would suggest it is the independent who "can't make decisions on their own" rather than the party politician as you suggest. Look at every election in recent history? Who do they fight over, target with their commercials, campaigns, and big money?? Not me. I know how I'm going to vote before I even see the candidates, you see, because it is simple to me. One party might promote the ideals I stand for, the other will not, and the rest don't matter. But you, you don't know what to think until you hear a bunch of spin, politicians at their worst - on the stump! And, whether you personally do or not, it is proven year after year that the so-called swing voters make their decisions based on this propaganda. This is their logic that takes no political sides - to be subdued by empty campaign promises and media frenzy!
"But, to speak practically and as a citizen, unlike those who call themselves no-government men, I ask for, not at once no government, but at once a better government. Let every man make known what kind of government would command his respect, and that will be one step toward obtaining it." - Henry David Thoreau from Civil Disobedience (the article you posted)
I bid you, take that step. Bring us closer to a better government, not no-government. Suggest an alternative to our government, if you have one.
As Theodore Roosevelt once said, "It is not the critic who counts, not the person who points out how the strong man stumbled or where the doer of the deed could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes short again and again because there is no effort without error and shortcomings, who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the high achievement of triumph and who at worst, if he fails at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat."
Forgive me (don't blame you if you don't) I, like most Americans, have committed one of the most intolerant crimes abroad. I assumed you were an American. But don't blame Americans, their companies, or their lobbying organizations for what your government agreed to.
That levy was obtained through our court system and can be fought through our court system. There are ways to take care of these issues within the bounds of our free and open society.
The RIAA isn't on my Christmas list either, however, I reiterate, to say that breaking the law is a valid method of protest is to advocate anarchy and chaos.
This post is definatly not trolling! It might be flamebait, but it's not trolling. And this post of mine is definatly more worthy of being moded down than the one above. Quit moding down posts because you disagree with them, you sheep! I'm not afraid of the/. moderation system.
...I have never profited from any downloaded music....
A matter of perspective. Think outside your own little head for a moment. Didn't you profit by obtaining the pleasure the music brought you by not having to pay for it?
So far as not respecting laws goes, I concede that we have way too many laws and many are useless, however, we live in a free society where anyone can have a hand in changing the laws. So change the law, don't break the law. To do so would only advocate anarchy and chaos.
...Maybe it's s time when people make music for the love of it rather than the money...
I knew it! Hippie! Communist! You are the minority and if you don't like it leave. You green party card carying little weasle, take another hit off your water bong and bug out. Leave discussions on this level to people who appreciate their brain cells.
..btw, for the record - the anonymous post was not me. I'm an honest man and the only time I post anonymously is to protect karma not identity, which is a personal preference - a practice that I am recently getting away from as well.
just the same as you claim this music 'belongs' to someone
Give me a break! The music does belong to someone! You didn't write it!
I'm sick of all you complaining little leeches crying your way to jail over the RIAA while at the same time if I took source code published under GNU License and incorporated a version of it in to my closed source proprietary software you'd call me an evil empire micro$hit and all sorts of nasty little names. Call me a monopoly, support taking my wealth and distributing it to the "poor" (disadvantaged european companies, yourselves, or whoever else happens to have their hand out at the time).
Why does/. have to be a sanctuary for thieves who argue that their theft is situationally ethical? My 2cents is that everyone who pulls music or video off kaza without a legal license to have a copy is a "leech".
Wow! I certainly appreciate the time involved with that. I've been...ahem...annoyed with the character per line restriction recently as well. Yes, it would seem that/.'s continued efforts to stop us trolls, er.. I mean the trolls have had at least a minor negative impact on the/. atmosphere.
But, alas, I'm incredibly off-topic and this post is sure to be modded down as it is critical of the holy of holies (/.), so I'll just push this little Karma Protect (Post Anonymously) button and voici! An invincible post that still carries my identity(pinkUZI @ ).
...and just to make sure this post uses the minimum number of characters per line...
...nah...I wouldn't be THAT evil.
Heck, I'll even post this one without the Karma Protect button(anon posting has seemingly been disabled for my ip). Hit me with all you've got moderators!!!
um... guys, maybe I'm out of line here, but this is not a good topic to brain storm. Why do we want to devises more deviant ways to spam? And why hurt our precious Google!
Sounds like we need someone to do a better job of moderating the stories. What is slashdot becoming if we're fed links to the inquirer and 11 year old data?
Slashdot Mirror
A nice faq on Trusted Computing.
Roman's didn't bring us wine!
Wine has been around at least since Noah who was the first to plant a vineyard.
"...an alternative to all the hype that Mel Gibson's film 'The Passion of the Christ' has generated..."
Does he really feel threatened by a movie about Christ? Does this tag line mean he is now billing himself as an antichrist?
Does Novell make desktops & laptops???
We might really see a change in authority here, this article from the Salt Lake Tribune mentions that "benefited substantially from IBM's long-running relationship with SuSE." IBM has been in the race for a while, but it looks like all the big boys are now coming out to play. It'll be interesting to see what happens.
The supply is limited by the musicians and their record labels because they want to make money! I say it is their right to do that. You say it is your right to take what you could not create yourself.
So far as the politics, it's probably off topic, but independents (I'm labeling you here, I know) are people who do not understand the political system we have here in America. They get really upset, make a lot of noise in discussions, and they really seem to love internet forums where everybody's voice is heard just as loud as another's. However, our government doesn't work that way. We are not a mob rules democracy and when you try to be an island in a representative democracy, you lose. You might make the internet appear a lot more liberal than it really is because you are really vocal, but what victory is that really? I don't anticipate you'll get your way with the RIAA any time soon. When it comes to legislation, your vote is not among the counted; your representative's vote is among the counted. So unless you find some friends, you're never going to get the guy in there that will support your ideals.
On another point, evidence would suggest it is the independent who "can't make decisions on their own" rather than the party politician as you suggest. Look at every election in recent history? Who do they fight over, target with their commercials, campaigns, and big money?? Not me. I know how I'm going to vote before I even see the candidates, you see, because it is simple to me. One party might promote the ideals I stand for, the other will not, and the rest don't matter. But you, you don't know what to think until you hear a bunch of spin, politicians at their worst - on the stump! And, whether you personally do or not, it is proven year after year that the so-called swing voters make their decisions based on this propaganda. This is their logic that takes no political sides - to be subdued by empty campaign promises and media frenzy!
Agreed.
The way to go is wireless and that's that. In Michigan, small wireless ISPs such as Speednet are really taking off.
...if we get some free peer2peer networks up and running around here, then we'll be talkin'...
"But, to speak practically and as a citizen, unlike those who call themselves no-government men, I ask for, not at once no government, but at once a better government. Let every man make known what kind of government would command his respect, and that will be one step toward obtaining it." - Henry David Thoreau from Civil Disobedience (the article you posted)
I bid you, take that step. Bring us closer to a better government, not no-government. Suggest an alternative to our government, if you have one.
As Theodore Roosevelt once said, "It is not the critic who counts, not the person who points out how the strong man stumbled or where the doer of the deed could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes short again and again because there is no effort without error and shortcomings, who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the high achievement of triumph and who at worst, if he fails at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat."
Abobe's official FAQ can be found here in pdf format.
The article mentions several ongoing SVG projects. Worth mentioning is Mozilla's efforts in this arena.
Forgive me (don't blame you if you don't) I, like most Americans, have committed one of the most intolerant crimes abroad. I assumed you were an American. But don't blame Americans, their companies, or their lobbying organizations for what your government agreed to.
That levy was obtained through our court system and can be fought through our court system. There are ways to take care of these issues within the bounds of our free and open society.
The RIAA isn't on my Christmas list either, however, I reiterate, to say that breaking the law is a valid method of protest is to advocate anarchy and chaos.
This post is definatly not trolling! It might be flamebait, but it's not trolling. And this post of mine is definatly more worthy of being moded down than the one above. Quit moding down posts because you disagree with them, you sheep! I'm not afraid of the
yep, I think I'll post this at +2 as well...
...Your 'we must obey the government and law regardless what' is the exact excuse that has been used by many many people in Nazi Germany...
Don't argue with him, jwthompson2, you can't win. He's studied this article on how to argue and win every time.
...I have never profited from any downloaded music....
A matter of perspective. Think outside your own little head for a moment. Didn't you profit by obtaining the pleasure the music brought you by not having to pay for it?
So far as not respecting laws goes, I concede that we have way too many laws and many are useless, however, we live in a free society where anyone can have a hand in changing the laws. So change the law, don't break the law. To do so would only advocate anarchy and chaos.
...Maybe it's s time when people make music for the love of it rather than the money...
I knew it! Hippie! Communist! You are the minority and if you don't like it leave. You green party card carying little weasle, take another hit off your water bong and bug out. Leave discussions on this level to people who appreciate their brain cells.
..btw, for the record - the anonymous post was not me. I'm an honest man and the only time I post anonymously is to protect karma not identity, which is a personal preference - a practice that I am recently getting away from as well.
just the same as you claim this music 'belongs' to someone
Give me a break! The music does belong to someone! You didn't write it!
I'm sick of all you complaining little leeches crying your way to jail over the RIAA while at the same time if I took source code published under GNU License and incorporated a version of it in to my closed source proprietary software you'd call me an evil empire micro$hit and all sorts of nasty little names. Call me a monopoly, support taking my wealth and distributing it to the "poor" (disadvantaged european companies, yourselves, or whoever else happens to have their hand out at the time).
Get a life, you commies!
Agreed.
/. have to be a sanctuary for thieves who argue that their theft is situationally ethical?
Why does
My 2cents is that everyone who pulls music or video off kaza without a legal license to have a copy is a "leech".
Wow! I certainly appreciate the time involved with that. I've been...ahem...annoyed with the character per line restriction recently as well. Yes, it would seem that /.'s continued efforts to stop us trolls, er.. I mean the trolls have had at least a minor negative impact on the /. atmosphere.
...and just to make sure this post uses the minimum number of characters per line...
But, alas, I'm incredibly off-topic and this post is sure to be modded down as it is critical of the holy of holies (/.), so I'll just push this little Karma Protect (Post Anonymously) button and voici! An invincible post that still carries my identity( pinkUZI @ ).
...nah...I wouldn't be THAT evil.
Heck, I'll even post this one without the Karma Protect button(anon posting has seemingly been disabled for my ip). Hit me with all you've got moderators!!!
I could use the tutorials and the new gimp if their site wasn't so horribly
If someone gets through could you please post their list of mirrors?!
There was more content in the article on slashdot than on the entire Openswan website!
ok, my bad, brain fart
I concede.
Isn't this really a trend of the Internet in general?
Rembember the free and easy days? Want a new stereo system, search webcrawler, you're bound to find someone giving them away...
um... guys,
maybe I'm out of line here, but this is not a good topic to brain storm. Why do we want to devises more deviant ways to spam?
And why hurt our precious Google!
Sounds like we need someone to do a better job of moderating the stories. What is slashdot becoming if we're fed links to the inquirer and 11 year old data?