If they decide to do what the NYT asks, then they are taking something wholly legal away from another user. Not only does this set a bad precedent, but it might even open them up for a lawsuit for breaching their own TOS or something. Not sure about that, though, I don't even use twitter.
Besides, even if they remove that feed, that doesn't stop dozens of other people to set up new aggretator feeds just to spite the NYT. Twitter could presumably block ALL retweeting of NYT feeds, but that would sooner or later bite the NYT in the ass, too - retweets seem to be the best way of getting news of your feed spread to new recruits.
> it had to copy the iPhone and other existing model instead of innovating
There are only so many ways to display a button that starts an application. The main "innovation" that Apple brought to the iPhone, was multitouch - and even that had been done before, just not in a commercial application.
I won't go as far as to say that innovation is overrated, but packaging and marketing existing technologies is not innovating. Apple produces fine products - smooth, clean, and mostly just works - but they're not the innovators their marketeers make you believe they are.
Speaking of displaying buttons, though - how about hexagonal buttons? You could fit more of them on the screen, then. Would you consider this an innovative idea ?
Hey, I *like* nuts, it's part of who I am. Doesn't mean I have to stand by and let the nuts try to "cure" me. They're free to dislike me as much as they want, and I couldn't care less; but they are NOT free to "cure" people with dangerous fake medical treatments.
I see your point, but educating the problem away doesn't really work if those you try to educate won't listen. Incidentally, I said that them trying to cure is is harmful, not that the app is harmful. I merely fear that allowing the app to be freely distributed will be seen as a form of proof that the haters are right by those who dwell on the borderline, so to speak; much like those who believe in the paranormal take squeaky stairs in an abandoned house as proof that ghosts exist.
Taking the app out of the store doesn't actually harm those involved - it merely points out that their behaviour is not looked particularly favourable upon. You're right in that it almost certainly does nothing to change their minds, but you don't refrain from telling a child that it's behaving badly either, just because you know it'll pout.
Excuse me? It may no longer exist where you live, but I assure you the model is very much alive. Better yet: here in Belgium we have all models:
* State television, sponsored by viewing tax.
* Commercial, freely visible televison, supported by advertising
* Subscription-based television channels
All those seem to coexist here, mostly peacefully. State telly has a better focus on international news, the commercial network focuses it's news more on local affairs. Both provide some quality progarmming, although in recent years there seems to have been an exceptional crop of quality fiction and entertainment from the state network.
We'll soon be entering the all-digital stage - analog will be dropped off the cable next year, and antenna reception (yes, that still exists, too) is already fully digital. That doesn't mean the commercial network will switch to pay-per-view; though - they'll stay in the base package that can be received with just a decoder, no subscription required.
That still requires you to have the actual passphrase of the account. Granted, all you need to do is run John for a period of time, but it still isn't trivial to get to the files, given a proper passphrase.
I'm gay. The app, itself, I don't much care about - although I find GPs thoughts about it being two-sided most interesting. The app doesn't touch me, and it's just an app, it doesn't actually do anyone any harm.
What I do care about, however, is the existence of right-wing, religious,homophobic nutters who sincerely believe that I can be cured, and that drugging and violent electroshocks are the way to go about it. Those are exactly the nutters who get their sick, distorted world-view reinforced by this kind of app, and become then even more likely to take it out on me and my fellow deviants.
So, yes, I do want this app banned. What I do in my bedroom has no impact on them whatsoever; but what they would do to me to "cure" me is harmful to the extreme.
Apple's puritanical censors don't allow boobs in the app store but have no problem with violence in games? Someone's moral compass is a bit wonky...
There, fixed that for you. Seriously, DUI checkpoint reporting is no worse than speedcam or traffic jam reporting - it's just information bartering, albeit in a bit of a grey legal area.
Want to really prevent drunk driving? Criminalize alcohol, just like all other hard drugs. But then again, that would be a major financial blow to both taxes and political pocket-lining, wouldn't it?
Umm... Tor. Even if the ISPs block the sites, that doesn't mean that hosters will, and I would guess a large number of Tor exit nodes are on hosted machines, not home lines.
TPB is also only used to download the actual torrentfile - the tracker can be somewhere else, and the data is on individual computers. Similarly, newsbin is used to download an NZB file, the data isn't actually there - you can get that from most any NNTP provider.
The Internet will simpy route around damage, even MAFIAA braindamage.
You'd have to happily submit to the corporation and willingly, nay, smilingly hand over your dough and your data, then drop your pants and bend over in case any of the janitors feel like assrape. The CEO obviously can buy better ass than yours with the cash you just gave him.
Your grasp of the situation is pretty apt, and you put it more eloquently than I ever could. Good work:-)
Renault is proposing an entirely different idea for quick recharges: they design their electric vehicles so that you can drive into the "gas station", and the empty battery is mechanically taken out through the underside of the car and replaced with an already-replenished one. Takes mere minutes, regardless of capacity; ensures your car always has a good battery as the aging ones can be taken out of circulation at the station, and would also allow for running upgrades to higher-capacity batteries as long as they keep the form factor.
Yes, a power station would need quite some input to keep their banks charged, but nothing that isn't already provided to the industry already. Hell, one or two of Toshiba's (or was it Mitsubishi) portanuke thingies should do nicely.
I can't possibly fathom why no other constructors are signing up for this idea - it's hard to imagine that Renault would keep the licenses to themselves if they stand to gain more by widespread adoption and sharing of development and implementation costs.
When you add a second dimension, you add left/right motion; the third dimension gives you up/down. All of which are really just convenient names for forward/backward along a different axis.
I'd mod you insightful, but I can't resist pointing out that the need for better, more efficient programming will cause serious havoc in a market that mainly consists of what are little more than professional VB consultants.
Think simpler. An absolute minority of people has exclusive access to the overwhelming majority of the world's resources. Where would you guess the rest of the people lean?
Slashdot Mirror
If they decide to do what the NYT asks, then they are taking something wholly legal away from another user. Not only does this set a bad precedent, but it might even open them up for a lawsuit for breaching their own TOS or something. Not sure about that, though, I don't even use twitter.
Besides, even if they remove that feed, that doesn't stop dozens of other people to set up new aggretator feeds just to spite the NYT. Twitter could presumably block ALL retweeting of NYT feeds, but that would sooner or later bite the NYT in the ass, too - retweets seem to be the best way of getting news of your feed spread to new recruits.
> it had to copy the iPhone and other existing model instead of innovating
There are only so many ways to display a button that starts an application. The main "innovation" that Apple brought to the iPhone, was multitouch - and even that had been done before, just not in a commercial application.
I won't go as far as to say that innovation is overrated, but packaging and marketing existing technologies is not innovating. Apple produces fine products - smooth, clean, and mostly just works - but they're not the innovators their marketeers make you believe they are.
Speaking of displaying buttons, though - how about hexagonal buttons? You could fit more of them on the screen, then. Would you consider this an innovative idea ?
Hey, I *like* nuts, it's part of who I am. Doesn't mean I have to stand by and let the nuts try to "cure" me. They're free to dislike me as much as they want, and I couldn't care less; but they are NOT free to "cure" people with dangerous fake medical treatments.
I see your point, but educating the problem away doesn't really work if those you try to educate won't listen. Incidentally, I said that them trying to cure is is harmful, not that the app is harmful. I merely fear that allowing the app to be freely distributed will be seen as a form of proof that the haters are right by those who dwell on the borderline, so to speak; much like those who believe in the paranormal take squeaky stairs in an abandoned house as proof that ghosts exist.
Taking the app out of the store doesn't actually harm those involved - it merely points out that their behaviour is not looked particularly favourable upon. You're right in that it almost certainly does nothing to change their minds, but you don't refrain from telling a child that it's behaving badly either, just because you know it'll pout.
Excuse me? It may no longer exist where you live, but I assure you the model is very much alive. Better yet: here in Belgium we have all models:
* State television, sponsored by viewing tax.
* Commercial, freely visible televison, supported by advertising
* Subscription-based television channels
All those seem to coexist here, mostly peacefully. State telly has a better focus on international news, the commercial network focuses it's news more on local affairs. Both provide some quality progarmming, although in recent years there seems to have been an exceptional crop of quality fiction and entertainment from the state network.
We'll soon be entering the all-digital stage - analog will be dropped off the cable next year, and antenna reception (yes, that still exists, too) is already fully digital. That doesn't mean the commercial network will switch to pay-per-view; though - they'll stay in the base package that can be received with just a decoder, no subscription required.
That still requires you to have the actual passphrase of the account. Granted, all you need to do is run John for a period of time, but it still isn't trivial to get to the files, given a proper passphrase.
I'm gay. The app, itself, I don't much care about - although I find GPs thoughts about it being two-sided most interesting. The app doesn't touch me, and it's just an app, it doesn't actually do anyone any harm.
What I do care about, however, is the existence of right-wing, religious,homophobic nutters who sincerely believe that I can be cured, and that drugging and violent electroshocks are the way to go about it. Those are exactly the nutters who get their sick, distorted world-view reinforced by this kind of app, and become then even more likely to take it out on me and my fellow deviants.
So, yes, I do want this app banned. What I do in my bedroom has no impact on them whatsoever; but what they would do to me to "cure" me is harmful to the extreme.
Well...
I'm not a jew. I'm not a right-wing bigot. I'm not porn, either, honestly.
I guess that makes me you.
Congratulations, you're gay.
It wouldn't, directly, but it would theoretically decimate the number of drunks.
Let's have a look at the great depression to see how that works :-)
Apple's puritanical censors don't allow boobs in the app store but have no problem with violence in games? Someone's moral compass is a bit wonky...
There, fixed that for you. Seriously, DUI checkpoint reporting is no worse than speedcam or traffic jam reporting - it's just information bartering, albeit in a bit of a grey legal area.
Want to really prevent drunk driving? Criminalize alcohol, just like all other hard drugs. But then again, that would be a major financial blow to both taxes and political pocket-lining, wouldn't it?
So geeks will go back to being a minor, and thus mostly-ignored segment that pretty much does whatever it wants on "their" internet? Suits me fine.
Umm... Tor. Even if the ISPs block the sites, that doesn't mean that hosters will, and I would guess a large number of Tor exit nodes are on hosted machines, not home lines.
TPB is also only used to download the actual torrentfile - the tracker can be somewhere else, and the data is on individual computers. Similarly, newsbin is used to download an NZB file, the data isn't actually there - you can get that from most any NNTP provider.
The Internet will simpy route around damage, even MAFIAA braindamage.
No, they'll still be buggered, just not by pedos. This makes surpisingly little different from the young boys' point of view.
Agreed, many can. How many do ?
You'd have to happily submit to the corporation and willingly, nay, smilingly hand over your dough and your data, then drop your pants and bend over in case any of the janitors feel like assrape. The CEO obviously can buy better ass than yours with the cash you just gave him.
Your grasp of the situation is pretty apt, and you put it more eloquently than I ever could. Good work :-)
My word, I wish I hadn't wasted my modpoints on insightful posts. You, my good sir, firmly deserve your +1 Interesting.
> how will I be able to communcate with my VP or marketing guys?
Back to the good old days, get me the cluebat.
Renault is proposing an entirely different idea for quick recharges: they design their electric vehicles so that you can drive into the "gas station", and the empty battery is mechanically taken out through the underside of the car and replaced with an already-replenished one. Takes mere minutes, regardless of capacity; ensures your car always has a good battery as the aging ones can be taken out of circulation at the station, and would also allow for running upgrades to higher-capacity batteries as long as they keep the form factor.
Yes, a power station would need quite some input to keep their banks charged, but nothing that isn't already provided to the industry already. Hell, one or two of Toshiba's (or was it Mitsubishi) portanuke thingies should do nicely.
I can't possibly fathom why no other constructors are signing up for this idea - it's hard to imagine that Renault would keep the licenses to themselves if they stand to gain more by widespread adoption and sharing of development and implementation costs.
I might have misread, but I was under the impression that it was "one dimension plus time".
Then again, that question is of the same order of "where is the universe expanding in to?".
You know, what I never got about that is that whole "earth is a cube, it has four corners" bit. Last cube I saw had eight.
Forward and backward.
When you add a second dimension, you add left/right motion; the third dimension gives you up/down. All of which are really just convenient names for forward/backward along a different axis.
Melange simply means "mixture". French, yanno.
I'd mod you insightful, but I can't resist pointing out that the need for better, more efficient programming will cause serious havoc in a market that mainly consists of what are little more than professional VB consultants.
Think simpler. An absolute minority of people has exclusive access to the overwhelming majority of the world's resources. Where would you guess the rest of the people lean?
+1 Balls of Steel