I don't think this is the first time Apple did this... Especially if you wanted to develop a "plugin" that would override the default Apple behavior for windows borders or other things... At least for a while. It seems likely that Apply may just not be 100% ready to release these features?
This could happen anywhere really, even on Linux (think Ubuntu's graphics drivers), that isn't to say that Linux doesn't try to be 100% freedom.
Please keep in mind I run only Linux and OS X machines at home and program professionally on the Linux/Unix platform.
Nordic Blondes and Irish redheads get frisked pretty throughly. If they are very large breasted then we have to really check them over, make them get naked, take photos, oil them up and take more photos, etc...
it's all in the name of security! If we did not do this terrorists would be blowing up EVERYTHING!!!! Maybe they are worried that the buxom beauties will take off their tops and distract the pilots causing the plane to crash! Clearly, they are just trying to help them subdue the desire to rip of their shirt and run free. See, its all for our safety!
Either Muslim, or Middle Eastern, or South Asian too... But yeah I'd agree it would appear that its racial.
What I think is maybe most disgusting though is that we're so pathetic as to accept this abuse. I travel to Asia with my wife - who is Chinese - quite a bit and the TSA and Customs people are always the worst. All I'm interested in is getting to my destination, but we all have to be treated like sheep to these people!
I've always avoided bringing the laptop on the plane because of weight, but they are even going after iPods and cell-phone data - going as far as to copy all of your contacts, call history, and take the SIM chip out of your phone. How am I supposed to call for a ride because my phone won't work w/o the SIM chip in it...
I can always use dm-crypt or true-crypt on my laptop but how the hell am I supposed to deal with them taking my terrorist iPod and phone? God forbid I try and bring an iPhone on the plane!
I used to work at a company with a lot of Pascal and C code... It was extremely common (as in, all but a few) for programs to be written entirely in one code file. These files would go on for 20,000 lines or more. So many lines in fact that after the compiler had imported the header files at the top of the file that they would be over 65,000 lines long and the debugger would crap out because it had exceeded the int that it used for line number counting.
Doxygen I thought did java-doc like parsing for C++? I was thinking he should look for something able to build a UML diagram based on the code... I hate UML, but if there isn't any documentation telling you the structures of the code it might be a place to look.
I would google for that, but I'm under deadline myself... (but yet still reading/. - I think its an addition).
--(1951:Sat,12 Jan 08:$)--./Micropolis Starting Micropolis in/home/petri/dev/micropolis/micropolis-activity... Welcome to X11 Multi Player Micropolis version 4.0 by Will Wright, Don Hopkins. Copyright (C) 2002 by Electronic Arts, Maxis. All rights reserved. sh: Syntax error: Bad fd number sh: Syntax error: Bad fd number Adding a player on:0.0... Cool, I found the shared memory extension!
Been trying to see if I can fix it, but so far I haven't had a lot of luck. I started a thread on the Ubuntu Forums for Micropolis too.
And where are they supposed to put their dozens of Unix/Windows and programming language books or other engineering books? Paperwork? Is this also supposed to be the magical land of the paperless office? I'm all for more open spaces - my team of programmers and I all go down to the lab every day and work next to each other instead of in our cubes, but we still have cubes to hold all that random paper junk.
Pete
I live in the same area as the GP. I can tell you that Verizon is trying like NOBODY's business to try to displace Comcast and get as much FiOS cable laid as they possibly can. The problem is that in this area, most of the apartment complexes are owned by 2 or 3 very large real estate companies, and they have exclusive contracts with Comcast and Cox. Verizon is having a very hard time making inroads in the renter's markets, but they've had more success in the residential areas (homes, condos, townhomes). Several of my coworkers have FiOS. They pay less, the signal quality is better, the service is better, the signing perks are incredible. Absolutely, Verizon is trying to get FIOS out ASAP in our area. And yeah the apt. complexes around here are a problem too. But the county is a major road block too. Montgomery county just finally let Verizon into the area, after years of work on Verizon's part, a suit against the county to get in, and god knows what else. If that isn't some kind of corruption or something, I don't know what it is.
See the backlog of posts from this blog about the Montgomery county & Verizon mess. And the fight is still going on in Rockville (city inside of Montgomery county).
Before I moved to the DC area, I lived out in another state in the middle of the city and still couldn't get a good DSL line, leaving me with again no choice but Comcrap.
2: Getting landlords and property managers to figure out how to work out the details between different cable/satellite/phone companies will be a comedy of errors at best. Sounds like SOP to me!
3: Landlords/property managers will come up with (or be told by the existing contracted company) bull such as "You're not allowed to do that because they have to run more wires through the wall" or "You can't do that because you'd have to mount an ugly satellite dish on the exterior of the building" (even if not true).
It's a step in the right direction, though I think they should simply ban the bundling of these services to your rental agreement entirely. Having a choice is one thing, but getting the money back (because you're opting out of the bundled service) is another. How will you know that the $50 you get back on rent every month is accurate? Wowa, now hang on, bundling can work in your favor sometimes. Though as a general rule I agree with you, but when I lived in a Coop housing area it was really great, we got comcast to agree to give us normal (not the simple/basic) cable for 20$ per apt. and we still got the discount for cable internet!
The reason this worked is because it was Coop housing, so 'not knowing' was not possible because that was 'public' information to people that lived there. The nice thing about our Coop was because the rent was about half of the cost of normal apts in the area. I miss that place.
This is a joke. I live in MD near Washington DC and live in an apt complex (I can feel the weird stockers already!). This will do nothing to help the problem. In the handful of places that have more then one cable option fab for them, but almost everywhere in the US the county signs an exclusive deal with the cable people... Not the apt owners.
Until the FCC does something to make it faster for cable peoples to get into an area and makes it so the county can't sign an exclusive deal... Well lets just say I won't be holding my breath.
The purpose of TDS and TCR is not to be a real news show, but to make really clear the stupid stuff that takes away the integrity of real news shows. Similarly, the purpose of this campaign is not to be a real campaign, but to expose the corruption and falseness of real political campaigns. I agree actually with you, that their point is to expose the corruption etc.
If he actually does win, it will only go to show that nobody gets his point, but that they're just a slightly different bunch of sheeple. What I don't think you understand is that a lot of people view a vote for SC or JS as a vote against the corruption and normal BS of this process. Consider that while they are doing their show to be funny, they are also showing themselves to be extremely intelligent and personable people capable of possibly leading. Watching JS rip those the guys to pieces on crossfire or even the extremely direct questions to Pres. Bill Clinton about his wife running really shows, I feel, that he gets it. The reason he can ask those extremely important questions and actually debate them is because its a comedy show and disarming.
The problem with the current field of paper-cut-outs is that you can barely tell where they actually stand on an issue. They don't say what they really think half the time, and you can't tell based on their voting record because every bill that goes before them is filled with random crap that doesn't belong there. How can you know what it is they are voting for when it includes things for 10 pet projects, and 5 things that are unconstitutional, a pet monkey and a rubber duck!
Heh.
Already well aware of him, I'm not a registered republican so I can vote for him in the primary, but if he makes it to the main election he'll get mine. Of course thats a snowballs chance in hell.
What would be interesting is if candidates had to to answer a series of questions to honestly indicate where on they really fell, something like the political compass test.
I honestly hope Colbert wins in SC. The only better guy for president would be Jon Stewart!. Either of them would spank those Dem/Rep around in a debate until they cried.
Politics in the US is outright pathetic. That may sound crass - but really, where is the candidate that doesn't have a stick up his ass and his hand in the cookie jar.
I dunno. I manage to write C++ and never overflow a buffer, always release all resources when I'm done with them, and never throw away an error. Why can't the other 95% of the programmers out there do the same thing?
They are busy being yelled at by their boss to "just make it work" and to "not worry about getting it perfect" and they are dealing the idiot "build master" over in change-management who doesn't know what "make clean" is or how to read a make file, but thinks that he's some master csh hacker... Everyone wants that just not everyone works in a perfect world.
Shit, most of us are just happy when we are able to beat clear requirements out of people and get reasonable bug reports.
I also agree with you though that linux distros should be automatically building in some sort of tripwire type setup to protect important system segments from scripts that are like this. OpenBSD emails root every night with the results of the daily insecurity check, if it finds anything. One of the things it looks for is new setuid-root binaries. If this had been OpenBSD, then it would have been caught within 24 hours of being installed. I'm surprised Linux distributions don't include something similar already.
By default, I don't believe any of the mainstream ones do, or I am unaware of any. I absolutely think that Linux needs to be adopting a lot more secure settings and things to ensure that it doesn't turn into another windows box.
I suspect though that what the computer industry needs in general is a more user friendly model, a method to make security easier and transparent and thus understandable to the general user. A lot of that comes with by the computer setting up more secure default settings that still allow the user to do their work. Yet don't do the "allow or deny" crap that Vista does.
SUID does not have to set id to root; my printing scripts are all setuid to "lp"; my mail servers are suid to "mail". This is a good thing.
Yeah, true enough, but in the context we're all talking about, we're talking about suid as root specifically. Since suid just runs as the owner of said executable and this executable is owned by root for no good reason, again we see the problem ey? I should have probably been more careful/specific though yes.
I agree with what you said, BUT...
Stop with your lame "thousand eyes" theory. Apparently those thousand eyes couldn't see a permissions change on their own systems. This is uncalled for, because as can be see on the ubuntu forums you can clearly see it was the "thousand eyes" reality that caught this problem in the first place and found the solution to remove parts from the install script.
wrap_setuid_third_party_application xsane
wrap_setuid_third_party_application xscanimage
wrap_setuid_ooo_application soffice
wrap_setuid_ooo_application swriter
wrap_setuid_ooo_application simpress
wrap_setuid_ooo_application scalc And the content of the function for suid-making functions etc. So I have to disagree with you there.
I also agree with you though that linux distros should be automatically building in some sort of tripwire type setup to protect important system segments from scripts that are like this.
And repeat after me: "proprietary" is even more evil than suid! HEH! Yes I agree with you, I've running 100% linux for a long time now for that reason. With that said though, there are lots of complicated pieces of code that I and everyone else just "trust" to work. Part of that trust comes from it being OSS, but a larger part I'd hope comes from a history of good work on the source's part.
It seems extremely dangerous that a user can install something like that, with that kind of effects. Very insecure indeed. Can anyone explain why in the whole world something like this could ever happen, or is in fact an exploit/virus/worm? It will require root privs to set up in the first place. It comes from the old UNIX method that "if you are privileged enough to have root, you should damn well know what you're doing." mindset. The problem is that apt-get, etc almost all require "root" or wheel access anyway to run. That means you're running a lot of program installers as root that probably you don't really trust enough to install in all parts of the system (see this as an example).
The bomb the investigators could have built would not have caused widespread damage or even high- level contamination. But it still could have had serious consequences, particularly economic ones, in any city where it was set off.
which would have required extracting the radioactive materials from the machines and combining them, a job that could harm anyone in close contact -- they could have built a bomb that would have contaminated an area about the length of a city block, according to the regulatory commission.
So I guess contaminating about a block of NYC would be only minor? Or how about the Reflecting Pool in DC? I'm not sure that I would call contaminating the mall area a "minor" incident. There can be a lot of important things in the space of a block. They compare this to someone hijacking a chemical truck, but I wonder how long the radioactivity would be irremovable from the area as compared to said chemicals.
"The economic and psychological effects of a dirty bomb detonating on American soil would be devastating," [Senator Norm] Coleman [R, MN] said in a statement Wednesday. "The N.R.C. has a pre 9-11 mindset in a post 9-11 world focusing just on preventing another Chernobyl."
But I still don't feel that statements like this do anything but spread FUD. Thats my 2 cents.
What would be differnet however would be the level of accountability. They system would need to be totally transparent. Firstly, all of Joe Blogg's submissions, would be public knowledge, and secondly all of his votes would be public knowledge. This level of public record would need to be a requirement to ensure transparency, to minimise fraud, and to up the level of personal acountability for personal actions and decisions.
Actually I like this part better then I like any of this idea... We should make all our congress critters have a fully public life. All phone calls, people they meet, get money from have breakfast/lunch/dinner with - everything. Obviously this would interfere with their life dramatically but I don't really have a problem with that, its a choice after all. With all of this information being published using a standard parse-able text (XML formatted, who knows) all of that info could be monitored by anyone with the will to do so.
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I hate them. Grr.
I don't think this is the first time Apple did this... Especially if you wanted to develop a "plugin" that would override the default Apple behavior for windows borders or other things... At least for a while. It seems likely that Apply may just not be 100% ready to release these features?
This could happen anywhere really, even on Linux (think Ubuntu's graphics drivers), that isn't to say that Linux doesn't try to be 100% freedom.
Please keep in mind I run only Linux and OS X machines at home and program professionally on the Linux/Unix platform.
it's all in the name of security! If we did not do this terrorists would be blowing up EVERYTHING!!!! Maybe they are worried that the buxom beauties will take off their tops and distract the pilots causing the plane to crash! Clearly, they are just trying to help them subdue the desire to rip of their shirt and run free. See, its all for our safety!
Either Muslim, or Middle Eastern, or South Asian too... But yeah I'd agree it would appear that its racial.
What I think is maybe most disgusting though is that we're so pathetic as to accept this abuse. I travel to Asia with my wife - who is Chinese - quite a bit and the TSA and Customs people are always the worst. All I'm interested in is getting to my destination, but we all have to be treated like sheep to these people!
I've always avoided bringing the laptop on the plane because of weight, but they are even going after iPods and cell-phone data - going as far as to copy all of your contacts, call history, and take the SIM chip out of your phone. How am I supposed to call for a ride because my phone won't work w/o the SIM chip in it...
I can always use dm-crypt or true-crypt on my laptop but how the hell am I supposed to deal with them taking my terrorist iPod and phone? God forbid I try and bring an iPhone on the plane!
I used to work at a company with a lot of Pascal and C code... It was extremely common (as in, all but a few) for programs to be written entirely in one code file. These files would go on for 20,000 lines or more. So many lines in fact that after the compiler had imported the header files at the top of the file that they would be over 65,000 lines long and the debugger would crap out because it had exceeded the int that it used for line number counting.
Sadly this isn't a joke.
Doxygen I thought did java-doc like parsing for C++? I was thinking he should look for something able to build a UML diagram based on the code... I hate UML, but if there isn't any documentation telling you the structures of the code it might be a place to look.
/. - I think its an addition).
I would google for that, but I'm under deadline myself... (but yet still reading
Been trying to see if I can fix it, but so far I haven't had a lot of luck. I started a thread on the Ubuntu Forums for Micropolis too.
And where are they supposed to put their dozens of Unix/Windows and programming language books or other engineering books? Paperwork? Is this also supposed to be the magical land of the paperless office? I'm all for more open spaces - my team of programmers and I all go down to the lab every day and work next to each other instead of in our cubes, but we still have cubes to hold all that random paper junk. Pete
See the backlog of posts from this blog about the Montgomery county & Verizon mess. And the fight is still going on in Rockville (city inside of Montgomery county).
Before I moved to the DC area, I lived out in another state in the middle of the city and still couldn't get a good DSL line, leaving me with again no choice but Comcrap.
It's a step in the right direction, though I think they should simply ban the bundling of these services to your rental agreement entirely. Having a choice is one thing, but getting the money back (because you're opting out of the bundled service) is another. How will you know that the $50 you get back on rent every month is accurate? Wowa, now hang on, bundling can work in your favor sometimes. Though as a general rule I agree with you, but when I lived in a Coop housing area it was really great, we got comcast to agree to give us normal (not the simple/basic) cable for 20$ per apt. and we still got the discount for cable internet!
The reason this worked is because it was Coop housing, so 'not knowing' was not possible because that was 'public' information to people that lived there. The nice thing about our Coop was because the rent was about half of the cost of normal apts in the area. I miss that place.
This is a joke. I live in MD near Washington DC and live in an apt complex (I can feel the weird stockers already!). This will do nothing to help the problem. In the handful of places that have more then one cable option fab for them, but almost everywhere in the US the county signs an exclusive deal with the cable people... Not the apt owners.
Until the FCC does something to make it faster for cable peoples to get into an area and makes it so the county can't sign an exclusive deal... Well lets just say I won't be holding my breath.
The problem with the current field of paper-cut-outs is that you can barely tell where they actually stand on an issue. They don't say what they really think half the time, and you can't tell based on their voting record because every bill that goes before them is filled with random crap that doesn't belong there. How can you know what it is they are voting for when it includes things for 10 pet projects, and 5 things that are unconstitutional, a pet monkey and a rubber duck!
Heh.
Already well aware of him, I'm not a registered republican so I can vote for him in the primary, but if he makes it to the main election he'll get mine. Of course thats a snowballs chance in hell.
What would be interesting is if candidates had to to answer a series of questions to honestly indicate where on they really fell, something like the political compass test.
I honestly hope Colbert wins in SC. The only better guy for president would be Jon Stewart!. Either of them would spank those Dem/Rep around in a debate until they cried.
Politics in the US is outright pathetic. That may sound crass - but really, where is the candidate that doesn't have a stick up his ass and his hand in the cookie jar.
How much pr0n does the government have laying around, and why isn't it on Limewire yet?????????
Maybe it is and you just didn't notice - its probably hiding somewhere in the mature section.I dunno. I manage to write C++ and never overflow a buffer, always release all resources when I'm done with them, and never throw away an error. Why can't the other 95% of the programmers out there do the same thing?
They are busy being yelled at by their boss to "just make it work" and to "not worry about getting it perfect" and they are dealing the idiot "build master" over in change-management who doesn't know what "make clean" is or how to read a make file, but thinks that he's some master csh hacker... Everyone wants that just not everyone works in a perfect world.
Shit, most of us are just happy when we are able to beat clear requirements out of people and get reasonable bug reports.
By default, I don't believe any of the mainstream ones do, or I am unaware of any. I absolutely think that Linux needs to be adopting a lot more secure settings and things to ensure that it doesn't turn into another windows box.
I suspect though that what the computer industry needs in general is a more user friendly model, a method to make security easier and transparent and thus understandable to the general user. A lot of that comes with by the computer setting up more secure default settings that still allow the user to do their work. Yet don't do the "allow or deny" crap that Vista does.
SUID does not have to set id to root; my printing scripts are all setuid to "lp"; my mail servers are suid to "mail". This is a good thing.
Yeah, true enough, but in the context we're all talking about, we're talking about suid as root specifically. Since suid just runs as the owner of said executable and this executable is owned by root for no good reason, again we see the problem ey? I should have probably been more careful/specific though yes.wrap_setuid_third_party_application xscanimage
wrap_setuid_ooo_application soffice
wrap_setuid_ooo_application swriter
wrap_setuid_ooo_application simpress
wrap_setuid_ooo_application scalc
And the content of the function for suid-making functions etc. So I have to disagree with you there.
I also agree with you though that linux distros should be automatically building in some sort of tripwire type setup to protect important system segments from scripts that are like this.
Nothing but the programs that absolutely have to should be run as root.
Is there an English (not some auto-translated forum) site covering this? I think its talking about this suid run printer driver?
So I guess contaminating about a block of NYC would be only minor? Or how about the Reflecting Pool in DC? I'm not sure that I would call contaminating the mall area a "minor" incident. There can be a lot of important things in the space of a block. They compare this to someone hijacking a chemical truck, but I wonder how long the radioactivity would be irremovable from the area as compared to said chemicals.
But I still don't feel that statements like this do anything but spread FUD. Thats my 2 cents.
Its only the second comment and this thread is already Godwin'd
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Actually I like this part better then I like any of this idea... We should make all our congress critters have a fully public life. All phone calls, people they meet, get money from have breakfast/lunch/dinner with - everything. Obviously this would interfere with their life dramatically but I don't really have a problem with that, its a choice after all. With all of this information being published using a standard parse-able text (XML formatted, who knows) all of that info could be monitored by anyone with the will to do so.