I pay to watch BBC at home. Surely, BBC is/has made some money from me as well (outside UK). The feedback questions - when the BBC website detectes non-UK IP - suggest that they might start charging for this. I believe one can pay and download it (normal archives) even today as well.
You know what, I have seen lots of Assembly language code for airlines, and i think the programs are *more often than not* well commented. A lengthy program header explains the programs relevance in the application, when it will be called, who will call it, in what process, its input/output etc etc. All subroutines also have a subroutine header which describes what it does, the input it expects/receives and the output - normal as well as in error scenario. This documentation - being assembly language - is down to the last bit! literally...Then the instructions are also well commented , most of the time i can get around with only reading the comments.
Well , what do we have here! Microsoft and EDS - 2 BIG names, with 1% performing people and 99% non-performing people. Are you sure the thing is working fine and will continue to do so?
Come on,,, '...' wont make sense to me because you have made it clear that its my brain which is misinterpreting it all. This just could be another mis-interpretation.
I did everything I could. I took a printout , I swear A and B looked different. I started cutting the printout, they were still different. Finally, when I had only A and B in my hand - in front of my *now* not so reliable eyes - then I saw that they were of the same grey shade. I had so much faith in my eye-sight, its all been shattered now.
Perhaps this is one of those instances where technology was put to some good use. In India, education is still a very high priority - among all families. Thats one of BIG reasons why you see all this outsourcing to India. If you dont trust Indian's, read that article by some Friedman article in NYT (if I am right). Here it goes for you in Friedman's words:
The Great Indian Dream
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
Published: March 11, 2004
BANGALORE, India
Nine years ago, as Japan was beating America's brains out in the auto industry,
I wrote a column about playing a computer geography game with my daughter, then
9 years old. I was trying to help her with a clue that clearly pointed to
Detroit, so I asked her, "Where are cars made?" And she answered, "Japan." Ouch.
Well, I was reminded of that story while visiting an Indian software design firm
in Bangalore, Global Edge. The company's marketing manager, Rajesh Rao, told me
he had just made a cold call to the vice president for engineering of a U.S.
company, trying to drum up business. As soon as Mr. Rao introduced himself as
calling from an Indian software firm, the U.S. executive said to him, "Namaste"
- a common Hindi greeting. Said Mr. Rao: "A few years ago nobody in America
wanted to talk to us. Now they are eager." And a few even know how to say hi in
proper Hindu fashion. So now I wonder: if I have a granddaughter one day, and I
tell her I'm going to India, will she say, "Grandpa, is that where software
comes from?"
Driving around Bangalore you might think so. The Pizza Hut billboard shows a
steaming pizza under the headline "Gigabites of Taste!" Some traffic signs are
sponsored by Texas Instruments. And when you tee off on the first hole at
Bangalore's KGA golf course, your playing partner points at two new
glass-and-steel buildings in the distance and says: "Aim at either Microsoft or
I.B.M."
How did India, in 15 years, go from being a synonym for massive poverty to the
brainy country that is going to take all our best jobs? Answer: good timing,
hard work, talent and luck.
The good timing starts with India's decision in 1991 to shuck off decades of
socialism and move toward a free-market economy with a focus on foreign trade.
This made it possible for Indians who wanted to succeed at innovation to stay at
home, not go to the West. This, in turn, enabled India to harvest a lot of its
natural assets for the age of globalization.
One such asset was Indian culture's strong emphasis on education and the widely
held belief here that the greatest thing any son or daughter could do was to
become a doctor or an engineer, which created a huge pool of potential software
technicians. Second, by accident of history and the British occupation of India,
most of those engineers were educated in English and could easily communicate
with Silicon Valley. India was also neatly on the other side of the world from
America, so U.S. designers could work during the day and e-mail their output to
their Indian subcontractors in the evening. The Indians would then work on it
for all of their day and e-mail it back. Presto: the 24-hour workday.
Also, this was the age of globalization, and the countries that succeed best at
globalization are those that are best at "glocalization" - taking the best
global innovations, styles and practices and melding them with their own
culture, so they don't feel overwhelmed. India has been naturally glocalizing
for thousands of years.
Then add some luck. The dot-com bubble led to a huge overinvestment in undersea
fiber-optic cables, which made it dirt-cheap to transfer data, projects or phone
calls to far-flung places like India, where Indian techies could work on them
Not until an year ago. But last year, when Reliance launched their CDMA services, they made sure that *anybody* could buy one. Since then, Reliance have added 40 million subscribers. And thats in just one year. They were offereing LG/Samsung CDMA handset for Rs. 500/- which would be ~ 12 USD. Offcourse, their air-time usage charge was also *very low*. An CDMA to CDMA call would cost you Rs. 0.40 per minute. That could be less than 1 cent.
WHen I started my first job , to work on Airline Applications - TPF based, on VM/CMS - I started using REXX. Then, at times, whenever I required a particular action on CMS file(s), I started writing REXX EXECs to do it for me. Although my demands were not that tough, as most of the times it was only to help me save my time while working, I found it extremely easy to write EXEcs. And I had no formal training in REXX. For me, its easy to understand the REXX commands/syntax. As I have no experience on Perl or whatever other stuff that you guys may be discussing, I am not in a position to compare REXX with anything else. But I like REXX and I am happy to see that it's still doing the job for me.
I am an Indian software programmer, working for US based company. I have been reading about the American feelings regarding outsourcing, and I get the impression that Americans dont like it much. Well, I dont know enough to comment on whether outsourcing is right/wrong for 'US of A'. But here is what I will say - I think I am going to turn down the offer that I have, to work in USA. I wanted to work in US, not to make any money but to go around that BIG country and meet some nice people. I have been working with people in LAX and DEN for a while. I like working with them. It would have been nice to talk to them face-to-face. It would have helped me learn much faster. But you guys make me feel that I will be taking away your job by coming to USA OR even by working in an outsourcing company. I think I will change my job soon. It was good while it lasted. Wish you luck with your elections and lawmakers. Should things change for better, and you guys start welcoming the Indians in USA, I will try to get myself a job over there.......
Tia,
Zusstin/From Mumbai.
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I pay to watch BBC at home. Surely, BBC is/has made some money from me as well (outside UK). The feedback questions - when the BBC website detectes non-UK IP - suggest that they might start charging for this. I believe one can pay and download it (normal archives) even today as well.
Whats really the point in stopping non-UK IPs?
You know what, I have seen lots of Assembly language code for airlines, and i think the programs are *more often than not* well commented. A lengthy program header explains the programs relevance in the application, when it will be called, who will call it, in what process, its input/output etc etc. All subroutines also have a subroutine header which describes what it does, the input it expects/receives and the output - normal as well as in error scenario. This documentation - being assembly language - is down to the last bit! literally...Then the instructions are also well commented , most of the time i can get around with only reading the comments.
Well , what do we have here! Microsoft and EDS - 2 BIG names, with 1% performing people and 99% non-performing people. Are you sure the thing is working fine and will continue to do so?
Come on ,,, '...' wont make sense to me because you have made it clear that its my brain which is misinterpreting it all. This just could be another mis-interpretation.
Damn! Damn!! Damn!!!
I did everything I could. I took a printout , I swear A and B looked different. I started cutting the printout, they were still different. Finally, when I had only A and B in my hand - in front of my *now* not so reliable eyes - then I saw that they were of the same grey shade. I had so much faith in my eye-sight, its all been shattered now.
Perhaps this is one of those instances where technology was put to some good use. In India, education is still a very high priority - among all families. Thats one of BIG reasons why you see all this outsourcing to India. If you dont trust Indian's, read that article by some Friedman article in NYT (if I am right). Here it goes for you in Friedman's words: The Great Indian Dream By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN Published: March 11, 2004 BANGALORE, India Nine years ago, as Japan was beating America's brains out in the auto industry, I wrote a column about playing a computer geography game with my daughter, then 9 years old. I was trying to help her with a clue that clearly pointed to Detroit, so I asked her, "Where are cars made?" And she answered, "Japan." Ouch. Well, I was reminded of that story while visiting an Indian software design firm in Bangalore, Global Edge. The company's marketing manager, Rajesh Rao, told me he had just made a cold call to the vice president for engineering of a U.S. company, trying to drum up business. As soon as Mr. Rao introduced himself as calling from an Indian software firm, the U.S. executive said to him, "Namaste" - a common Hindi greeting. Said Mr. Rao: "A few years ago nobody in America wanted to talk to us. Now they are eager." And a few even know how to say hi in proper Hindu fashion. So now I wonder: if I have a granddaughter one day, and I tell her I'm going to India, will she say, "Grandpa, is that where software comes from?" Driving around Bangalore you might think so. The Pizza Hut billboard shows a steaming pizza under the headline "Gigabites of Taste!" Some traffic signs are sponsored by Texas Instruments. And when you tee off on the first hole at Bangalore's KGA golf course, your playing partner points at two new glass-and-steel buildings in the distance and says: "Aim at either Microsoft or I.B.M." How did India, in 15 years, go from being a synonym for massive poverty to the brainy country that is going to take all our best jobs? Answer: good timing, hard work, talent and luck. The good timing starts with India's decision in 1991 to shuck off decades of socialism and move toward a free-market economy with a focus on foreign trade. This made it possible for Indians who wanted to succeed at innovation to stay at home, not go to the West. This, in turn, enabled India to harvest a lot of its natural assets for the age of globalization. One such asset was Indian culture's strong emphasis on education and the widely held belief here that the greatest thing any son or daughter could do was to become a doctor or an engineer, which created a huge pool of potential software technicians. Second, by accident of history and the British occupation of India, most of those engineers were educated in English and could easily communicate with Silicon Valley. India was also neatly on the other side of the world from America, so U.S. designers could work during the day and e-mail their output to their Indian subcontractors in the evening. The Indians would then work on it for all of their day and e-mail it back. Presto: the 24-hour workday. Also, this was the age of globalization, and the countries that succeed best at globalization are those that are best at "glocalization" - taking the best global innovations, styles and practices and melding them with their own culture, so they don't feel overwhelmed. India has been naturally glocalizing for thousands of years. Then add some luck. The dot-com bubble led to a huge overinvestment in undersea fiber-optic cables, which made it dirt-cheap to transfer data, projects or phone calls to far-flung places like India, where Indian techies could work on them
Not until an year ago. But last year, when Reliance launched their CDMA services, they made sure that *anybody* could buy one. Since then, Reliance have added 40 million subscribers. And thats in just one year. They were offereing LG/Samsung CDMA handset for Rs. 500/- which would be ~ 12 USD. Offcourse, their air-time usage charge was also *very low*. An CDMA to CDMA call would cost you Rs. 0.40 per minute. That could be less than 1 cent.
can you provide it here? I will start my testing by playing with it..
WHen I started my first job , to work on Airline Applications - TPF based, on VM/CMS - I started using REXX. Then, at times, whenever I required a particular action on CMS file(s), I started writing REXX EXECs to do it for me. Although my demands were not that tough, as most of the times it was only to help me save my time while working, I found it extremely easy to write EXEcs. And I had no formal training in REXX. For me, its easy to understand the REXX commands/syntax. As I have no experience on Perl or whatever other stuff that you guys may be discussing, I am not in a position to compare REXX with anything else. But I like REXX and I am happy to see that it's still doing the job for me.
I am an Indian software programmer, working for US based company. I have been reading about the American feelings regarding outsourcing, and I get the impression that Americans dont like it much. Well, I dont know enough to comment on whether outsourcing is right/wrong for 'US of A'. But here is what I will say - I think I am going to turn down the offer that I have, to work in USA. I wanted to work in US, not to make any money but to go around that BIG country and meet some nice people. I have been working with people in LAX and DEN for a while. I like working with them. It would have been nice to talk to them face-to-face. It would have helped me learn much faster. But you guys make me feel that I will be taking away your job by coming to USA OR even by working in an outsourcing company. I think I will change my job soon. It was good while it lasted. Wish you luck with your elections and lawmakers. Should things change for better, and you guys start welcoming the Indians in USA, I will try to get myself a job over there....... Tia, Zusstin/From Mumbai.