I created a Forth-derived language, embedded in C (link below) to tap into some of that old school simplicity without loosing contact with the bigger picture. Even Python is too complicated for my taste when it comes to whipping out simple tools, and not integrated deep enough with C to use as an embedded scripting language. Suggest JS at your own peril.
https://github.com/basic-gongf...https://github.com/basic-gongf...
The issue isn't using components, the issue is not having the shadow of a clue when it comes to basic fundamentals such as parsing and networking.
If all you know how to do is piling ready-made blocks on top of each other, you're not worth the chair you're sitting on outside of framework la la land.
We used to call these kinds of uninformed souls Code Monkeys.
I started out on the C64 back in 85. The fact that BASIC was basically staring you into the face first thing when you turned it on, compared with reasonably interesting examples in the manual; probably played a big part in getting me hooked on code. Today there is so much more to choose from, and the information is much more accessible. I remember saving money to buy very expensive programming books from one of the students in school who ran group orders from a catalog, and copying Turbo C++ from the school software library. Downloading Python and hitting a tutorial sure is easier; and Stack Overflow, for all its faults, saves a lot of time. Everything is more complex today, that's the biggest issue from my perspective; it's more difficult to get traction.
Even creepier to me is how many people seem to have been secretly wishing and waiting for Rust to come and save them from their own responsibility. I guess we've all been carefully primed by being repeatedly beaten over our heads for our imperfection, but it's still creepy to see people stand in line to be abused.
Trusting an analysis from Uber about how they're going to make everything better, honestly really, while milking everyone and their dog for awesome profits; even though it runs contrary to any common sense; priceless. Even if they hadn't already been caught with every conceivable type of deception and criminal activity, this is just stupid unicorn bullshit. Uber needs to die already, they've been doing nothing but harm since day one. But I guess as long as you get cheap taxi rides, none of that matters much.
I've sworn to never write another stupid line in freaking agenda crap languages; Java, C#, Go, Swift, Rust. They're all solving a problem that didn't really exist, how to get everyone and their dog to write code safely. People bitch about Intels latest snafu; just wait until the next, less nerdy generation takes over. My yoga teacher used to tell a story about a Yogi who decided to hibernate all the way through Kali Yuga to not have to eat the "food", if I had known what was coming up around the corner in software land I would have done the same thing. My theory is the suits got shit scared from depending on code magicians and having to treat employees like humans out of fear of loosing them, and have been working 24/7 ever since to dumb everything down to a level where any moron will do.
And by not forcing them to take mandatory surfing lessons once a week, or whatever startup dream-team-building bullshit you can come up with. There are no tech companies out there any more; it's all about the awesome profits and and lip stick these days.
Did it ever occur to you that the people who claim it can't be done and planted the seeds of humiliation and shame in public consciousness that you are so eager to help flourish; did id ever occur to you that they might have ulterior motives? As in soft-killing for profit? Contraceptives is one of the most harmful pieces of crap medicine that they've managed to come up with so far. It causes so much pain and suffering, that if it was reported in the media there would be a revolution in no time at all. Check your facts, use your brain; blindly trusting anything is stupid.
I had a major spinal surgery about 10 years ago after falling of a cliff and smashing a vertibrae.
The last thing I remember from the operation was really paying attention when they gave me an injection on our way into the operating room, and that's it. Woke up feeling pretty good for having had my spine messed with for over 4 hours. It still bugs me that I can't put my finger on the experience; I have no idea if it was really that instant or if I simply don't remember.
I have a similar observation. I had just joined a startup writing booking systems for the tourism industry back then. And I had to watch our competitors bathing in millions from having little more than a static HTML layout to show, while we were busy building the real deal for pennies in comparison. We got the last laugh though. Once the party was over and the economy hit the floor; the tourism industry was going pretty well, and they still needed a booking system. Someone once said that it's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to go to heaven, I find that comforting.
I can see two possible explanations for this level of ignorance, either you weren't around back when Microsoft was king of the hill and free to display all it's psychopathic traits in public without consequences; or you're somehow vested in Billy boy's reputation. He's an elitist asshole; always was, always will be; that he's now more into vaccinating children to death in lesser countries and indoctrinating the next generation to not think for themselves, while patting himself on the shoulder in public; doesn't change that, quite the opposite.
The article seems to contain a typo; I'm sure he meant cixl, not cx. Take it from Eric Raymond, this is the future of programming:
cixl - a minimal, decently typed scripting language
https://github.com/basic-gongf...
Agreed, no deviation and no signs of human nature. Taken out of context I would have guessed it was an AI-joke.
Much of the crap that trickles out from Google and Facebook has the same uncanny valley vibe to me.
I would say that comment means that you either haven't had much interaction with the community, or you consider yourself part of it. Rust is ideologically corrupt, and technologically immature; which makes it practically irrelevant. It will never succeed with the current attitude, and changing attitudes once the ball is rolling is tricky business.
Thank you! I haven't laughed that hard since I spent an evening skimming David Hasselhoff reviews on Amazon.
To me, this explains both why the language looks the way it looks and why it's so successful in cultivating armies of drones lobbying for it.
The whole thing reads like a pile of AI-assistants having a discussion.
I'm done with freaking hipster languages; Rust may be the worst offender right now, but they're all similar. Go, Swift, Julia; I've done deep dives into all of them and their communities all have the same icky stench surrounding them to some extent. It's beginning to look like a recipe:
1) Produce an inferior language that creates more problems than it solves
2) Lip stick and market the shit out of it like there's no tomorrow
3) Create a cult with rigid rules and zero deviation to fuel armies of mindless drones to do propaganda and harass anyone who objects
I'm writing my own language to counter the whole movement, and I suggest others do the same thing to make sure we don't get overrun by these morons:
https://github.com/basic-gongf...
32 years here; done most of that; and I'll add Lisp, Smalltalk, Forth, Haskell, Erlang, Scala, Clojure, Ruby, Perl, Julia, Pascal, Prolog and more to your list.
I've written more ShitScript than I wish to remember and there's nothing in my experience that even comes close to the puke factor of that piece of crap. It's the number one reason I avoid web apps like the plague, even generating it from a sane language on the server makes me sick since I still need to get inside of Brendans head. I wish it wasn't so, I wish it was as decent as the clueless like to pretend; would make my life so much easier. But here we are, building the future on the worst possible foundation while collectively pretending it's leading somewhere worth going; it's like watching a train crash in slow motion.
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I created a Forth-derived language, embedded in C (link below) to tap into some of that old school simplicity without loosing contact with the bigger picture. Even Python is too complicated for my taste when it comes to whipping out simple tools, and not integrated deep enough with C to use as an embedded scripting language. Suggest JS at your own peril. https://github.com/basic-gongf... https://github.com/basic-gongf...
The issue isn't using components, the issue is not having the shadow of a clue when it comes to basic fundamentals such as parsing and networking. If all you know how to do is piling ready-made blocks on top of each other, you're not worth the chair you're sitting on outside of framework la la land. We used to call these kinds of uninformed souls Code Monkeys.
Second orgmode, nothing else comes close. Same for Emacs, despite its faults.
I started out on the C64 back in 85. The fact that BASIC was basically staring you into the face first thing when you turned it on, compared with reasonably interesting examples in the manual; probably played a big part in getting me hooked on code. Today there is so much more to choose from, and the information is much more accessible. I remember saving money to buy very expensive programming books from one of the students in school who ran group orders from a catalog, and copying Turbo C++ from the school software library. Downloading Python and hitting a tutorial sure is easier; and Stack Overflow, for all its faults, saves a lot of time. Everything is more complex today, that's the biggest issue from my perspective; it's more difficult to get traction.
Because his brain obviously isn't working as intended.
Even creepier to me is how many people seem to have been secretly wishing and waiting for Rust to come and save them from their own responsibility. I guess we've all been carefully primed by being repeatedly beaten over our heads for our imperfection, but it's still creepy to see people stand in line to be abused.
Trusting an analysis from Uber about how they're going to make everything better, honestly really, while milking everyone and their dog for awesome profits; even though it runs contrary to any common sense; priceless. Even if they hadn't already been caught with every conceivable type of deception and criminal activity, this is just stupid unicorn bullshit. Uber needs to die already, they've been doing nothing but harm since day one. But I guess as long as you get cheap taxi rides, none of that matters much.
I've sworn to never write another stupid line in freaking agenda crap languages; Java, C#, Go, Swift, Rust. They're all solving a problem that didn't really exist, how to get everyone and their dog to write code safely. People bitch about Intels latest snafu; just wait until the next, less nerdy generation takes over. My yoga teacher used to tell a story about a Yogi who decided to hibernate all the way through Kali Yuga to not have to eat the "food", if I had known what was coming up around the corner in software land I would have done the same thing. My theory is the suits got shit scared from depending on code magicians and having to treat employees like humans out of fear of loosing them, and have been working 24/7 ever since to dumb everything down to a level where any moron will do.
And by not forcing them to take mandatory surfing lessons once a week, or whatever startup dream-team-building bullshit you can come up with. There are no tech companies out there any more; it's all about the awesome profits and and lip stick these days.
Did it ever occur to you that the people who claim it can't be done and planted the seeds of humiliation and shame in public consciousness that you are so eager to help flourish; did id ever occur to you that they might have ulterior motives? As in soft-killing for profit? Contraceptives is one of the most harmful pieces of crap medicine that they've managed to come up with so far. It causes so much pain and suffering, that if it was reported in the media there would be a revolution in no time at all. Check your facts, use your brain; blindly trusting anything is stupid.
I had a major spinal surgery about 10 years ago after falling of a cliff and smashing a vertibrae. The last thing I remember from the operation was really paying attention when they gave me an injection on our way into the operating room, and that's it. Woke up feeling pretty good for having had my spine messed with for over 4 hours. It still bugs me that I can't put my finger on the experience; I have no idea if it was really that instant or if I simply don't remember.
I have a similar observation. I had just joined a startup writing booking systems for the tourism industry back then. And I had to watch our competitors bathing in millions from having little more than a static HTML layout to show, while we were busy building the real deal for pennies in comparison. We got the last laugh though. Once the party was over and the economy hit the floor; the tourism industry was going pretty well, and they still needed a booking system. Someone once said that it's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to go to heaven, I find that comforting.
I can see two possible explanations for this level of ignorance, either you weren't around back when Microsoft was king of the hill and free to display all it's psychopathic traits in public without consequences; or you're somehow vested in Billy boy's reputation. He's an elitist asshole; always was, always will be; that he's now more into vaccinating children to death in lesser countries and indoctrinating the next generation to not think for themselves, while patting himself on the shoulder in public; doesn't change that, quite the opposite.
The article seems to contain a typo; I'm sure he meant cixl, not cx. Take it from Eric Raymond, this is the future of programming: cixl - a minimal, decently typed scripting language https://github.com/basic-gongf...
And the only reason we come back is to have a chuckle at it in the company of other old fucks ;)
Agreed, no deviation and no signs of human nature. Taken out of context I would have guessed it was an AI-joke. Much of the crap that trickles out from Google and Facebook has the same uncanny valley vibe to me.
I would say that comment means that you either haven't had much interaction with the community, or you consider yourself part of it. Rust is ideologically corrupt, and technologically immature; which makes it practically irrelevant. It will never succeed with the current attitude, and changing attitudes once the ball is rolling is tricky business.
Thank you! I haven't laughed that hard since I spent an evening skimming David Hasselhoff reviews on Amazon. To me, this explains both why the language looks the way it looks and why it's so successful in cultivating armies of drones lobbying for it. The whole thing reads like a pile of AI-assistants having a discussion. I'm done with freaking hipster languages; Rust may be the worst offender right now, but they're all similar. Go, Swift, Julia; I've done deep dives into all of them and their communities all have the same icky stench surrounding them to some extent. It's beginning to look like a recipe: 1) Produce an inferior language that creates more problems than it solves 2) Lip stick and market the shit out of it like there's no tomorrow 3) Create a cult with rigid rules and zero deviation to fuel armies of mindless drones to do propaganda and harass anyone who objects I'm writing my own language to counter the whole movement, and I suggest others do the same thing to make sure we don't get overrun by these morons: https://github.com/basic-gongf...
32 years here; done most of that; and I'll add Lisp, Smalltalk, Forth, Haskell, Erlang, Scala, Clojure, Ruby, Perl, Julia, Pascal, Prolog and more to your list. I've written more ShitScript than I wish to remember and there's nothing in my experience that even comes close to the puke factor of that piece of crap. It's the number one reason I avoid web apps like the plague, even generating it from a sane language on the server makes me sick since I still need to get inside of Brendans head. I wish it wasn't so, I wish it was as decent as the clueless like to pretend; would make my life so much easier. But here we are, building the future on the worst possible foundation while collectively pretending it's leading somewhere worth going; it's like watching a train crash in slow motion.