What about the fact that the people that think we're evil are not too likely to change their mind, no matter what we do? They don't care who did this, and they really don't care about what we do back. All they care about is that the "evil" Americans finally got their comeuppance.
It makes no difference how much of an investigation we make, the Taliban (if they still exist), the Iraqis, Al Quaied, the Hamas, and the Hesbollah are all going to still going to denounce the Americans as evil. Their hatred of America is such an ingrained part of their culture and identity that, whether or not they're responsible for this, they are *capable* of this kind of action. Do you really think that someone like that is going to change their mind about America, their declared target of Jihad, simply because we jump through the right hoops in terms of investigation?
I don't. I think that what has to happen is that there has to be a clearly defined enemy, who all the American people can either believe, or even better, *know* perpetrated this crime. Then, there needs to be swift, final justice done against them. No questions can or should remain when we are finished. Not "Did they do this?" nor "Can they do it again?" We need to find out the right answer, and then give them the *final* answer.
"I hate hippies." --Eric Cartman
--FKB
Listen, you hippie fuck, it's not about simply "nuke[ing] Afghanistan" or blowing up the entire Middle East. It's a basic human emotion that extreme situations call forth extreme emotions. There simply isn't anybody alive today in America who can recall a disaster of this level occuring in their country. While it may be true that simply bombing the hell out of every country with a "stan" at the end and a tyrannical government is a rash idea (I, for one, don't necessarily think the world would be that bad off if we did just that...) but dealing with grief. Some people have to blow off steam by venting. Let them do so, and keep your fucking trap shut. They'll be happier for it, and you won't be hurt by voicing your treasonous views.
And saying that you're ashamed to be American (notice that I GOT THE FUCKING CAPITALIZATION RIGHT) is like saying "I'd rather live in an Islamic militant religious state." Feel free. You *won't* be missed.
That said, it's time for a little more reasonable response. Why should the fact that your countrymen are outraged at this act of War insult or degrade you? The simple fact that you have a forum in which you can express your shame in your country is a founding facet of that country! If we were in Afghanistan, and you felt a little upset at the government, you wouldn't be able to say a word. However, despite the fact that I find your view reprehensible, I have to let you have them, simply because THAT is the beauty of this country. As long as you don't raise arms against your fellow man or the country, or break the laws of the land, you are free to do and say as you please. Just don't do it anywhere near me.
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What about the fact that the people that think we're evil are not too likely to change their mind, no matter what we do? They don't care who did this, and they really don't care about what we do back. All they care about is that the "evil" Americans finally got their comeuppance. It makes no difference how much of an investigation we make, the Taliban (if they still exist), the Iraqis, Al Quaied, the Hamas, and the Hesbollah are all going to still going to denounce the Americans as evil. Their hatred of America is such an ingrained part of their culture and identity that, whether or not they're responsible for this, they are *capable* of this kind of action. Do you really think that someone like that is going to change their mind about America, their declared target of Jihad, simply because we jump through the right hoops in terms of investigation? I don't. I think that what has to happen is that there has to be a clearly defined enemy, who all the American people can either believe, or even better, *know* perpetrated this crime. Then, there needs to be swift, final justice done against them. No questions can or should remain when we are finished. Not "Did they do this?" nor "Can they do it again?" We need to find out the right answer, and then give them the *final* answer. "I hate hippies." --Eric Cartman --FKB
Listen, you hippie fuck, it's not about simply "nuke[ing] Afghanistan" or blowing up the entire Middle East. It's a basic human emotion that extreme situations call forth extreme emotions. There simply isn't anybody alive today in America who can recall a disaster of this level occuring in their country. While it may be true that simply bombing the hell out of every country with a "stan" at the end and a tyrannical government is a rash idea (I, for one, don't necessarily think the world would be that bad off if we did just that...) but dealing with grief. Some people have to blow off steam by venting. Let them do so, and keep your fucking trap shut. They'll be happier for it, and you won't be hurt by voicing your treasonous views.
And saying that you're ashamed to be American (notice that I GOT THE FUCKING CAPITALIZATION RIGHT) is like saying "I'd rather live in an Islamic militant religious state." Feel free. You *won't* be missed.
That said, it's time for a little more reasonable response. Why should the fact that your countrymen are outraged at this act of War insult or degrade you? The simple fact that you have a forum in which you can express your shame in your country is a founding facet of that country! If we were in Afghanistan, and you felt a little upset at the government, you wouldn't be able to say a word. However, despite the fact that I find your view reprehensible, I have to let you have them, simply because THAT is the beauty of this country. As long as you don't raise arms against your fellow man or the country, or break the laws of the land, you are free to do and say as you please. Just don't do it anywhere near me.
"I hate hippies." --Eric Cartman
--FKB