That article was much poorer than the other ZDnet article, which is why I have written a web page critizing it. In summary: The comparison did not properly represent how well Linux can handle the load of an enterpirse-class web server.
When some benchmarks were done vis-a-vis Linux and NT a year ago, someone found that Linux creates new processes with fork() almost as fast as NT creates new threads. The article in question is in the same thread as this one
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Anyone know if this particular problem (which probably only makes Linux look bad on benchmarks, mind you) was fixed?
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The article brought up some interesting points
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Articles like this, which show some potential weaknesses with Linux, are excellent guides for the developers to continue refining the already excellent OS that Linux is.
These kind of benchmarks, although unpleasant to read, have worked to improve Linux in the past. The fact that Apache no longer attempts to perform a slow getaddrbyname (reverse DNS lookup) operation every time someone requests a web page is the result of benchmarks showing NT web servers beating the socks off of Linux web servers that did this inefficient operation.
The web page tunelinux.com is the result of the much-discussed Mindcraft study.
Linus fixed a problem with Linux yielding threads when it was shown by an informal benchmark that NT was much faster when yielding threads in a tight loop. Of course, this being a Usenet test, a long flame war started arguing whether the test was legitimate. Linus had the very mature comment that "Anything that could objectively make Linux look bad should be fixed" (or words to that effect).
My only objection to these ZDNET studies is that they do not always explain in sufficient detail their testing methodology. As long as their story explains their testing methodology, these articles should be studied by the developers with a fine tooth comb.
This was quoted over on sci.crypt, from Bernstien's attorney Cindy Cohn:
First, the decision is not final for at least 52 days (45 for the govt to seek rehearing/7 more for mandate to issue), even if the government doesn't seek cert or rehearing. It could probably be cited as a slip opinion in the meantime, but is not binding precedent yet.
Second, once it is final, it will only be binding precedent within the 9th Circuit.
Third, the status pending further review will probably be determined by a motion for stay within the rehearing period. If such a stay is granted, as it was below [in the lower court], folks will probably have to wait until it's all over before they can publish without fear of prosecution. We will oppose any request for a stay, of course.
My source is expressive, since it is a new application of cryptography (encrypted email addresses, using a 32-bit varient of the Blowfish block cipher) that I developed myself.
To quote a lawyer from the Wired article:
"Assuming it's not stayed and you live in California, Washington, or Oregon, you can post source code on the Internet without fear," said Michael Froomkin, a law professor at the University of Miami School of Law.
Jon Katz's article was an excellent article! For me, how what happened to me in Junior High school and High school is much more interesting to me on a deep emotional level than yet another mainstream media outlet mentioning Linux.
I find that I still had resentments against the way some people treated me in Junior high school and, to a lesser extent, high school. This is something I have kept secret, and Jon Katz's article has really help me get in touch with and start to get over what happened over ten years ago.
One of my disillusments with the geek culture is that it is hard for people to open up with their feelings. I am glad to see Jon Katz's article giving people the courage to open up and get in touch with their feelings.
For me, what those kids did was unacceptable. Then again, I have a part in the blame. If I knew then what I know now in terms of how people are emotionally, I would not have projected myself as someone to pick on.
One advantage of all the moving I did in those years is that whatever image others had about me was wiped clean every time I went to a new school. By my last three years of high school, things were reasonable, if not ideal.
This site is a fake. All the images are images from media outlets. In addition, the nameservers for this site's network connection do not have records for trenchcoat.org. I am sure if the ISP got rid of the A records, they would have turned off the web site in question.
The reason why a larger market share benefits Linux is because it encourages hardware manufactures to make their hardware Linux-friendly. It encourages people who make proprietary protocols (RealAudio, ShockWave, etc) to make Linux software that can understand the protocol in question. It encourages more applications to be ported to Linux.
The more real-world useful things I can do with Linux, the better Linux is. When we make Linux easier to use, we enourage more hardware and software support for Linux.
The DVD/A specification already handles this. You can have higher quality sound, such as two-channel 192khz/24, or have more channels, such as 24/96 5.1 or whatever, or have hours of 16/44.1 audio.
They also allow different compressions formats, such as Dolby AC-3, and a lossless ocmpression format that gives 2-3x compression on the audio.
I just told the author of the original lpd (written around 1979-80) about this new, exciting development in the technology of printers.
His comment "Hasn't this already been done?"
My reply "That is what everyone on Slashdot is saying."
Then he mentioned that he is amazed that a certain part of the lpr/lpd/etc code has not been updated... apprantly a certain part would be more clean if it used select(). Then again, he was a "dinky undergrad" when he wrote that entire package.
Rob almost never deletes posts. What usually happens is that posts which can only serve to start a silly flamewar are given a score of -1 or lower. Since most people have a threshold of 0, this stops silly flame wars from starting.
For example, right before the news about Bruce's objection to the Apple "open source" license got posted, Slashdot responded to all web pages with an "Internal Server Error" message, then briefly was not accepting HTTP connections at all. So, when slashdot was up again, an anonymous coward posted that the server is flaky.
I took offense to this, since I do not like seeing Rob's hard work being not appreciated, and posted this message. Now, since this whole thread had nothing to do with Bruce's approval of Apple's license, somone game my post a score of -1 and the post that started the silly thread a score of -3.
Some may consider this censorship, but it is not. It is merely the powers that be trying to keep the discussion intelligent, and not diverge in to meaningless flame wars. I wish usenet had this level of moderation.
This product gives consumers what they want in audio delivery.
What people want is lower prices on music. With places like the Warehouse charging as much as $20 for a single CD, the price of music has increased faster than inflation. In particular, the 1985 cost of a record was roughly between 6 and 10 dollars. The 1999 cost of a CD is roughly between 12 and 20 dollars. While the price of an album has gone up 100%, the consumer price index has only gone up 56% in the same time period.
The other thing people want is longer playing times. With the exception of portable models, single disc players are a rare item. Multi-disc changers, supporting anywhere from five to 200 discs, is the norm.
If you continue to have problems, send me a private mail affirming that you are a US citizen, and I will give you a temporary 1-hour password, or will try to resolve things at my end if you give the ip of the address you are trying to access my software from.
I have a free program that I wish I didn't have to restrict access to. The article in question is vague about this--will it allow people who make crypto software to make their program available on a web page in the us without having to play the "Are you a US citizen" games.
Frankly, I doubt it. I think most people with programs like this will not go to the bother of filling out 15 government forms.
When the original "Life on Mars" was discovered back in '96, it was a very exciting moment for people in the science fiction community. Further discoveries putting this discovery in doubt were a dissapointment to many people.
Whether there were primitive microrganisms on Mars is still "up in the air", and I am glad to see some more evidence support that there was life there.
Supposing there was life on Mars, every known constant of the equation used to determine hoe much life there is out there is very high, which means it is very likely there are aliens. Which leads to the next question. Why haven't we met them? Or have we??
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Anyone know if this particular problem (which probably only makes Linux look bad on benchmarks, mind you) was fixed?
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Articles like this, which show some potential weaknesses with Linux, are excellent guides for the developers to continue refining the already excellent OS that Linux is.
It pointed out that:
- Linux + Apache maxes out when it gets 2000 HTTP requests a second
- Linux + Apache maxes out when it is transferring 200 Mbps a second
These kind of benchmarks, although unpleasant to read, have worked to improve Linux in the past. The fact that Apache no longer attempts to perform a slow getaddrbyname (reverse DNS lookup) operation every time someone requests a web page is the result of benchmarks showing NT web servers beating the socks off of Linux web servers that did this inefficient operation.The web page tunelinux.com is the result of the much-discussed Mindcraft study.
Linus fixed a problem with Linux yielding threads when it was shown by an informal benchmark that NT was much faster when yielding threads in a tight loop. Of course, this being a Usenet test, a long flame war started arguing whether the test was legitimate. Linus had the very mature comment that "Anything that could objectively make Linux look bad should be fixed" (or words to that effect).
My only objection to these ZDNET studies is that they do not always explain in sufficient detail their testing methodology. As long as their story explains their testing methodology, these articles should be studied by the developers with a fine tooth comb.
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In Engligh, that means that the Appeal court now orders the district court to implement this decision, and nothing happens until they do.
Why do I get the feeling that the DOJ is going to stay this decision before the appeal court has a chance to "make it so"?
Sigh, oh sigh.
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To quote a lawyer from the Wired article:
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Jon Katz's article was an excellent article! For me, how what happened to me in Junior High school and High school is much more interesting to me on a deep emotional level than yet another mainstream media outlet mentioning Linux.
I find that I still had resentments against the way some people treated me in Junior high school and, to a lesser extent, high school. This is something I have kept secret, and Jon Katz's article has really help me get in touch with and start to get over what happened over ten years ago.
One of my disillusments with the geek culture is that it is hard for people to open up with their feelings. I am glad to see Jon Katz's article giving people the courage to open up and get in touch with their feelings.
For me, what those kids did was unacceptable. Then again, I have a part in the blame. If I knew then what I know now in terms of how people are emotionally, I would not have projected myself as someone to pick on.
One advantage of all the moving I did in those years is that whatever image others had about me was wiped clean every time I went to a new school. By my last three years of high school, things were reasonable, if not ideal.
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The more real-world useful things I can do with Linux, the better Linux is. When we make Linux easier to use, we enourage more hardware and software support for Linux.
- Sam
The DVD/A specification already handles this. You can have higher quality sound, such as two-channel 192khz/24, or have more channels, such as 24/96 5.1 or whatever, or have hours of 16/44.1 audio.
They also allow different compressions formats, such as Dolby AC-3, and a lossless ocmpression format that gives 2-3x compression on the audio.
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In a nutshell, you must be 18 to win.
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People with accounts with a default score of 0 or -1 will probably end up creating a new account with a higher default score.
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His comment "Hasn't this already been done?"
My reply "That is what everyone on Slashdot is saying."
Then he mentioned that he is amazed that a certain part of the lpr/lpd/etc code has not been updated... apprantly a certain part would be more clean if it used select(). Then again, he was a "dinky undergrad" when he wrote that entire package.
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For example, right before the news about Bruce's objection to the Apple "open source" license got posted, Slashdot responded to all web pages with an "Internal Server Error" message, then briefly was not accepting HTTP connections at all. So, when slashdot was up again, an anonymous coward posted that the server is flaky.
I took offense to this, since I do not like seeing Rob's hard work being not appreciated, and posted this message. Now, since this whole thread had nothing to do with Bruce's approval of Apple's license, somone game my post a score of -1 and the post that started the silly thread a score of -3.
Some may consider this censorship, but it is not. It is merely the powers that be trying to keep the discussion intelligent, and not diverge in to meaningless flame wars. I wish usenet had this level of moderation.
- Sam
What people want is lower prices on music. With places like the Warehouse charging as much as $20 for a single CD, the price of music has increased faster than inflation. In particular, the 1985 cost of a record was roughly between 6 and 10 dollars. The 1999 cost of a CD is roughly between 12 and 20 dollars. While the price of an album has gone up 100%, the consumer price index has only gone up 56% in the same time period.
The other thing people want is longer playing times. With the exception of portable models, single disc players are a rare item. Multi-disc changers, supporting anywhere from five to 200 discs, is the norm.
- Sam
If you continue to have problems, send me a private mail affirming that you are a US citizen, and I will give you a temporary 1-hour password, or will try to resolve things at my end if you give the ip of the address you are trying to access my software from.
- Sam Trenholme
Frankly, I doubt it. I think most people with programs like this will not go to the bother of filling out 15 government forms.
- Sam Trenholme
Whether there were primitive microrganisms on Mars is still "up in the air", and I am glad to see some more evidence support that there was life there.
Supposing there was life on Mars, every known constant of the equation used to determine hoe much life there is out there is very high, which means it is very likely there are aliens. Which leads to the next question. Why haven't we met them? Or have we??
- Sam Trenholme