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Q3Test 1.05 for Linux released

Jacek Fedorynski writes "New Linux version of Q3Test has just been released. Here is the list of mirrors. " You know the drill-go get 'em.

166 comments

  1. I've tried RH5.2... unsuccessfully by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > Well if you can't beat us, join us. Surely you can spare some partition space for linux and Q3test.

    I've tried to join you. Installed RH5.2. After six hours or so and *countless* webpages / newsgroups, finally got X running with my G200 in 16/24-bit (and at a shrunken size (yes, i've used xvidtune to no avail)).

    So then my next adventure was getting GLX drivers. Others claim 7-8fps. After a whole Sunday of fiddling & compiling, I can finally claim 1fps. This is on a P2-400/128MB system. Whoo hoo!

    Then for kicks, I tried net-installing RH6.0. After a couple hours, I find I can't get X to work. I've given up and am waiting for the Win32x version.

    And no, I ain't no UNIX newbie.

    1. Re:I've tried RH5.2... unsuccessfully by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If you want to get Q3test running on a G200 card
      you'll have to muck in with the driver effort. They've only really just started work on the driver so it's a bit of work to get it running, and even then it's too choppy to be playable (up to 10 or so FPS, but only 5 or so in busier places which is what counts).

      If you want to actually play Q3test under linux you'll probably want a Voodoo card.

    2. Re:I've tried RH5.2... unsuccessfully by Svartalf · · Score: 1

      Part of the problem is that you're using alpha drivers to try this thing out on your machine- on top of Red Hat's odd system setup. If you don't put the server, etc. in the right place, it's not going to even come close to working right. And the link to the X server that works is different for when you use xdm versus startx under Red Hat 5.2 (Which is a gripe I had when I tried to get my SiS I've got to work.)

      --
      I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the State of Texas
  2. The new teleporter KICKS ASS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As always ID KICKS ASS!
    They updated the teleporter in this version of
    q3test and it looks SO SWEET!

    1. Re:The new teleporter KICKS ASS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the first map, the teleporter used to show your destination. Now it is just a big yellow blob! The lightning effects around it are cool, though.

      The second map has three teleporters with a cylindrical tube resembling somewhat to Star Trek's transporter pad. It was the first thing I noticed when I downloaded the new q3test.

    2. Re:The new teleporter KICKS ASS by mistshadow · · Score: 1

      You need to have "sky" effects set to "High quality" in order to see the destination of the teleporter in Q3test1. It's under System Configuration/Preferences.

  3. Not too different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I played the new version for a few minutes; there were no big changes. The two test levels had different teleporters (they look very cool though), and q3test1 had a different central area.

    Although now when you jump you make this irritating grunt noise...it would probably sound really retarded in net play with lots of people jumping in rocket battles.

    1. Re:Not too different by Narbo · · Score: 1

      I just downloaded the win32 version and tried it out as I was having sporadic crashes with the
      linux version.

      I have this to say:

      win32 mouse is muuuuch smoother (anyone know
      how to get it that smooth in linux)

      win32 version looks like CRAP on the same
      card (voodoo2). the rendering, especially the
      textures and smoke fromt the rockets looks
      absolutely awful. im not sure if its a driver
      thing or what but the linux version looks 5x
      better. (of course the g200 in windows looked
      hella better then the voodoo2 in linux but at
      barely half the speed :))

      Anyone got ideas on either of these?

      -N

    2. Re:Not too different by Jburkholder · · Score: 1

      Did you try the new linux build as well? The mouse movement is MUCH smoother than in the first version.

  4. Anyone think Q3 would exists in a non-IP world? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just a thought after reading all of the discussion from an earlier article -- if the entire copyright system had distentegrated, would ID still be making this game?

    1. Re:Anyone think Q3 would exists in a non-IP world? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm just jumping in here, but if there were no copyrights then ANYONE could sell boxed copies, or just hawk burned copies for a few bucks. I guess id would be expected to make money on 'support'?

    2. Re:Anyone think Q3 would exists in a non-IP world? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I always thought the Coca-Cola thing was more just because no one else really cares.

    3. Re:Anyone think Q3 would exists in a non-IP world? by landley · · Score: 1

      Nah, the coca-cola thing is based on a century of established brand name, one heck of a distribution and marketing infrastructure, and a fairly effective caffiene delivery system. As "new Coke" proved, the century of marketing has been successful enough that what it actually tastes like is almost completely irrelevant by now, (unless of course you try to change it). Modern lab techniques can easily figure out what's in it pretty accurately, and the formula's been published anyway (in the back of the book "For God, Country, and Coca-Cola", check your library). The trade secret is for marketing reasons, so nobody else can claim to be identical to Coke. (Couldn't back it up in court without a certified copy of the original formula, and you haven't got the formula, have you? Lab analysis is +/- a few percent on the quantity of each ingredient, and is it chinese cinnamon or...? Not good enough to hold up in court, all you could get was "very similar to Coke" which Pepsi is anyway with a vastly different formula. They both taste like malted battery acid, actually... (I drink Dr. Pepper, although I own stock in Coke.))

    4. Re:Anyone think Q3 would exists in a non-IP world? by Swamp · · Score: 1

      Maybe not Q3 as it is a small(ish) executable with some small maps, but other single player games seem to have enormous map files which would be too expensive to download (+300Mb). So long as the boxed game is cheaper/easier to buy than to DL, then allowing for some pirating and copying, retail games would continue to be feasible. And remember: DVD is round the corner. Imagine trying to download a 10Gb file!

    5. Re:Anyone think Q3 would exists in a non-IP world? by Swamp · · Score: 1

      v. good point!

      I don't know how much support is needed for a game. Probably not much. But they could give the client software away for free and charge people to use their servers. Q3 is useless without a server.

      The server software could be kept seperate and never sold or distributed, and a system of franchises put in place with strict secrecy contacts for the server software. That way the copyright laws would never be needed (I think).

      Rather like the secret formula for Coca-Cola...?

  5. where are the 3dfx drivers for Linux? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    where are the 3dfx drivers for the voodoo2 card for Linux?

    ::sound of me bonking my head on the monitor after wasting a large chunk of time fruitlessly trying to find the drivers::

    1. Re:where are the 3dfx drivers for Linux? by Chris+Pimlott · · Score: 1

      Um, honestly, just read the docs... it says quite plainly where to get the drivers. One rpm and it works.

  6. Re:is there a way to make it run in software only? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Borrow one from a friend! Thats what I did :) No, seriously... If you have any friends that are hardcore gamers, they probably have a voodoo2 or two laying around, since they already upgraded to a TNT or Vodoo3 ;)

    -ethan

  7. Re:P233 + quake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get a voodoo3. They're only $120 or so, and they're well worth it... It's probably less if you can find a good deal. A 3D card is a good investment, they make games look a lot better.

    -ethan

  8. Re:If at first you don't succeed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, I'm not giving up... yet :)

    You'd think after countless IRIX installs, HP-UX installs, & Win9x installs that I could get one lousy Linux install down. But then again, I am working with hardware that isn't exactly Linux-happy (can you say 'TurtleBeach Montego'?)

    I think the biggest hassle for me thus far has been the need for webbrowsing for answers. To webbrowse, I need to get X working. To get X working, I need to webbrowse. Hence: boot Win98, find possible solution, boot Linux, solution doesn't work, boot Win98, etc. I suppose I could just read newsgroups within Linux, but it's been awhile since I've used 'trn' :P

    Maybe I'll just buy a Mac.

  9. Re:Forgive me... q3test? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh, so you're admitting, then, that the Open Source methodology of outside testing is far more efficient and productive than an inside test ala Microsoft?

    ...signed, the non-foul-mouthed gnulix guy.

  10. Re:If at first you don't succeed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, that is a bummer.

    I personally have had no better experience installing an OS than RH5.2, but all of my (important) hardware was supported in the distro.

    Compared to W95, installing RH was a piece of cake.

  11. Re:Forgive me... q3test? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > Oh, so you're admitting, then, that the Open
    > Source methodology of outside testing is far
    > more efficient and productive than an inside
    > test ala Microsoft?

    Admit? I think that's what many of us had been advocating for the last 5 years.

    a

  12. .deb version also by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  13. Re:Forgive me... q3test? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Okay...always on the lookout for FUD -- in the most unlikely of places! ;-)

    (And, in keeping with my entertaining spirit, entertaining the masses with my witty appends!)

    ...signed, the non-foul-mouthed gnulix guy!

  14. Re:is there a way to make it run in software only? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yup - he just upgraded from TNT to a Voodoo 3. And I'm still on my 3D-V on my notebook... Damn, when are these comin gout for my notbook....

    a.

  15. Re:P233 + quake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    voodoo3 does not work in linux right now. Most likely it will soon though

  16. Re:If at first you don't succeed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why do you need X to do web browsing?

    Daniel (posting this without X running at the moment :-/ )

  17. Re:.deb avabilable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    A deb of binary-only software? Evil! EVIL!

    [ I don't have a 3dfx. Think sour grapes :-P ]

  18. Forget it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just get the Windows version and never look back.

  19. Re:Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you did do a setserial /dev/modem irq 5 or whatever # your modem irq is, right? they seem to gloss over that a bit in the redhat manual.

  20. Oh no! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh no, not _again_!

    No need to moderate, after parent gets moderated this one will be invisible.

    --
    Somebody who watched the awful stuff those -1 guys made 7 posts before

  21. Get Debian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get Debian 'unstable'. It should work.

    1. Re:Get Debian by gas · · Score: 1

      No, keep it on the mirror and install, upgrade and install new packages over the net. That means no fiddling with CD's or waste of diskspace and quick, automatic upgrades and fixes.

    2. Re:Get Debian by Svartalf · · Score: 1

      Interesting suggestion... Guess I'll pull it down from off the 'net and make a CD to play with...

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  22. Oops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oops, seven _articles_.

  23. Re:TROLL!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, I don't think you get it (at all). I was *NOT* making such a statement. I was simply being wry, witty, and delectably entertaining*.

    ...signed, the non-foul-mouth gnulix guy!

    (*Although ... I do believe that the Star Wars stinker opening this month is going to disappoint a *lot* of nerds who've spent the last month lining up, or who take the day off work, etc.)

  24. Re:P233 + quake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a P200MMX w/ V2, and Q3A-test works very nicely. Even with everything turned on, it's pretty smooth, though I had to turn some stuff off to get decent performance out of laggy net play.

  25. Re:Right here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow,the 3Dfx logo now looks a lot like the ActiveX logo.

  26. q3test and esd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everytime that I want to run Q3 with sound, I have to kill esd (esound). Has anybody found a way around this.

    1. Re:q3test and esd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      create a file called quake3, with its contents:

      #!/bin/sh
      esdctl unlock
      linuxquake3
      esdctl lock

    2. Re:q3test and esd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      `esddsp q3test'
      (Just look at the esddsp file)

    3. Re:q3test and esd by balmeida · · Score: 1

      That shouldn't work, quake 1/2 (and I'm assuming 3test) mmap the sound device ...no go with esddsp. I've actually emailed zoid about getting esound support put into quake, but I got no response...I guess when they release the source we'll esd-ify it :-)
      --
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    4. Re:q3test and esd by ZioPino · · Score: 1

      simple, run "esdctl off" and "esdctl on" after you exited the game.

  27. no image with voodoo 1 and redhat 5.2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've spent quite some time trying to get it to work with my system:
    voodoo1 with the appropriate glide packages and /dev/3Dfx
    Mesa-3.0
    I also have the system environment variables set for window mode.
    When I try and run linuxquake3 I get a black window with no image. However, the sound works. The 3dfx test programs that come with Mesa seem to work fine. Any ideas?

    1. Re:no image with voodoo 1 and redhat 5.2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Got your passthrough hooked up? :-)

    2. Re:no image with voodoo 1 and redhat 5.2 by Akoma+The+Immortal · · Score: 1

      LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      --
      assert(expired(knowldege)); core dump
  28. Re:Slowest? Don't tempt me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, you could use a 386 with 4 megs of ram (might need 8), a fd, and a network card. Network it with your other box. Install a small linux distro into a directory on your normal box. Pop a kernel onto a disk, and have the 386 use NFSROOT ( have its root directory on a NFS server). To make things even peachier, you would probably need to create a swap file on the nfs so it could load all of q3test into memory. Now imagine that, a 386 w/4megs of ram, using NFSroot, a swap file on a NFS, playing q3. THAT would be scary.

  29. Re:P233 + quake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On the other hand, you can put 3 times as much ram on a voodoo2 as a voodoo, which will help texture thrashing immensly.

  30. List of mirrors here! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Here is id's list of mirrors for those of you unable to access their page.

    http://www.3dgamers.com/3daction/Games/quake3arena /q3test-win32.html
    ftp://209.1.115.11/idsoftware/q3arena/q3test_1_05. exe
    http://www.bluesnews.com/files/idstuff/quake3/win3 2/q3test_1_05.shtml
    ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/idgames/idstuff/quake3/win 32/q3test_1_05.exe
    http://www.planetquake.com/dl/dl.asp?quake3/q3test _1_05.exe
    http://download.ign.com/pc/q3test_1_05.exe
    ftp://ftp.stomped.com/pub/redwood/q3a/win32/q3test _1_05.exe
    ftp://qftp1.heat.net/pub/win32/q3test_1_05.exe
    ftp://ftp.golsyd.net.au/golsyd-public-ftp/quake3/w in32/client/q3test_1_05.exe
    ftp://ftp.barrysworld.com/quake3/test/win32/q3test _1_05.exe
    ftp://neville2.barrysworld.com/quake3/test/win32/q 3test_1_05.exe
    ftp://chips.barrysworld.com/quake3/test/win32/q3te st_1_05.exe
    ftp://216.81.151.27/quake3/q3test_1_05.exe
    ftp://ftp.stomped.com/pub/redwood/q3a/win32/q3test _1_05.exe
    http://www.quake3planet.de/files/q3test/win32/q3te st_1_05.exe
    ftp://ftp.q3arena.com/pub/q3arena/q3test/win32/q3t est_1_05.exe

  31. Re:MIRROR WIN32 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are the man. Thank you very much.

  32. win32 now also by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  33. Re:P233 + quake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    voodoo3 not supported by quake3!!!!!!!!!!!!! under linux, no drtivers as 3dfx will not release the specs. No one is excited anbout writing such drivers? Why, i have no idea. I would love to spend my next 6 months of spare time producing a bug free(you get bitched at for buggy code)driver for so I can play quake3.

  34. and now glsetup . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. Re:and now glsetup . . . by Andrew+Lockhart · · Score: 1

      yeah, it took a while for me to get that. luckily i was using ncftp

  35. Re:Mirror (multi T1) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks, downloading presently. Why did they release this the day befor finals? Maybe they though modifying q2 didn't already take up enough time. just kidding, thanks for the mirror, all the main mirrors are full. It is good to see nerds sticking together to make their resources useful and helpful for other nerds. Anyone want to do an interview on a student flunking out of college because of quake?
    DUSTY L LLOYD lloydu00@usfca.edu

  36. Re:Linux survival guide for Windows users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just bought Jaton SonicWave4D card based on Trident 4DWave DX chipset that was recommended recently. Really cheap.

    It worked at first attempt after I compiled a recent CVS snapshot of ALAS. Quake3 seemed to work fine, but I just tried it for a minute this morning.

  37. added glsetup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  38. ** Q3 TEST FAST MIRROR ** by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My site should be fast since its new:

    ftp://ftp.quake.com.cy/pub/quake3/linux/q3test-1 .05-glibc-9.i386.rpm

    ftp://ftp.quake.com.cy/pub/quake3/linux/q3test-1 .05-glibc-9.i386.tar.gz

    ftp://ftp.quake.com.cy/pub/quake3/linux/q3test_1 _05.exe

  39. I can top that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Run it under the Bochs emulator on your Netwinder. Heh heh heh.

  40. Re:P233 + quake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, you should upgrade your CPU since it's the bottleneck in your system. I.e. I have a PPro 200 MHz and a V2, and I wouldn't get a faster system by buying a second V2 board.

  41. Re:Linux - Windose modem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I assume you also have a Win 32 partition and that the
    modem works with Windose on the same computer
    if you are waiting for the Windose release. Well, just use
    Windows IE4 or 5 or AOL or Netscape to download the Linux version
    to your Windose download area. The internet doesn't care
    if you download Linux files onto Windose. Windose ftp often
    messes up unix file extensions but that is easy to fix just by renaming
    the files after download to use the correct extensions.
    The file itself won't be corrupted. Sometimes you can also do
    this by changing the name in the little dialog that comes up
    when the download starts.

    I assume you also know how to mount a dos or fat32 partition.
    Do that from Linux and then you can access the file from
    Linux and move it or unarchive it or whatever you want to do.
    You can even run programs from dos partitions in Linux -
    a little slower but not much unless there are lots of tiny files.

    man mount, fstab for details. Be sure to use the vfat partition type, if
    you have Win98 or Fat32 with Win95. You will need to add
    a line to your /etc/fstab file with a text editor to keep from having
    to mount and unmount the Windose partition every time you
    need to use it.

    I hate Quake and don't understand why people like a boring
    game where they point a gun at droids and watch them
    grunt and explode. What about a Tux hunt? Crush Tux with
    falling blocks, incenerate Tux, implode Tux, use Tux to troll
    for Killer Whales. Gee, what fun!

  42. Re:Matrox G200 laments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://ford.on.openprojects.net/~stephenc/

    binaries here...

  43. Re:TROLL!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > No, I don't think you get it (at all). I was
    > *NOT* making such a statement.

    Impostor! Yes, it was a troll.

  44. The troll that was. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic to
    > imply that the news item was poorly written...

    Bingo. You hit it on the head. That other guy put some serious words into the mouth of AC...

    > You're making a statement about how you feel
    > that slashdot should stick to Linux/BSD news
    > instead of this pesky, frivolous Quake and
    > Star Wars stuff.

    No, but I really like where he's going with that thought, and I would have to agree with it. Partially. Disagree too, actually.

    Slashdot has two core audiences. The Linux crowd and the Nerd crowd. Of course, one crowd is in control, and the other is not. I'd hate to see the dotbase forked, but it'd be nice to have a nerd site without dealing with the overwhelming Linux influence.

    Filter! Filter! Yeah, yeah. But filtering won't keep the Linux people out of the comments, will it?

  45. Almost a good idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...but since Q3 is multiplayer only, he's gonna be bored even if he gets it installed, since he's got no modem under Linux. :-)

  46. Report this problem. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can report this "problem" here. Hit the "continue" link. Choose "other" for the operating system (of course). And remember to be polite.

  47. Mesa? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    does your system have any opengl libraries installed? Mesa (www.mesa3d.org) is a free one, maybe that's whatcha need. (btw - there are rpm's for the stable version (3.0.x) everywhere!

    later,
    good luck

  48. Depends on what you consider "playable". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've got a P233MMX 64MB/Voodoo1 setup and I found q3test unsuitable for multiplayer games -- especially the first map. I know I can dumb down the rendering considerably and the framerate will improve, but I want to have the FPS and the nice graphics and effects too! Anyhow, just running around the levels playing nobody (i.e. running a listen server), I got lots of lag/chop. And it may be true (someone confirm this?) that if you turn off the sky effect, which also will turn off the image in the portal/tranporter on level1, you could be at a competitive disadvantage because you cannot see what's at the destination you are about to transport to (anyone know if you can see other players through the portal?).

    I we probably will need to upgrade CPUs to get nice playability and decent rendering together.

    1. Re:Depends on what you consider "playable". by Jburkholder · · Score: 1

      Yes you can see thru the portal, and yes fast sky turns this off. However, I noticed that in the new 1.05 carmack turned the portal around 180 so you face the wall when you teleport and you can't see whats going on anyway.

  49. http mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i put the new q3 test online at http://zork.nu/q3arena/

    sorry, http mirror only, but if you do not find any other mirrors, use this (hope it won't slow down my server as it did the last q3 release (24hrs downtime after my post here
    LOL

    nuku

  50. Re:Linux survival guide for Windows users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hmmm...that easter bunny looks like it was made out of 100% child-friendly flame-retardant materials. Barely any of the stuffing was burned, only the surface (which had apparently been doused with lighter fluid in order to get as burned as it was). Woohoo!

  51. problems with win32 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Many, many people are saying that the win32 version q3atest 1.5 has a lot of problems--image quality, slow speed, especially with a 3dfx based card.

    My only thought is that 3dfx was too hasty in releasing their buggy drivers--crashing between levels and not working with amd & ali chipsets are known problems.

    For LINUX, stable drivers (Mesa) were already available, and Zoid just optimized them and distributed them with q3atest.

    Or maybe the win32 version will never catch up.

    On another note, 1.05 linux works MUCH better with my sblive! now.

  52. Re:P233 + quake IT WORKS OK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a P233, 32MB and Voodoo2 SLI. Q3 works great with all standard settings @1024x768

  53. Re:Win32 Midnight CST by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    q3test win32 is available at ftp.idsoftware.com but expect it to be mirrored soon.

  54. Win32 Version NOW Available!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
    I just saw it on ftp.cdrom.com! Just appeared five minutes ago!

    I saw it here ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/idgames/idstuff/quake3/win 32/q3test_1_05.exe

    But, better to find a mirror. ftp.cdrom.com is crawling like a snail!

  55. Re:Win32, screwed again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Well if you can't beat us, join us. Surely you can spare some partition space for linux and Q3test.

  56. Stupid lamers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3

    Geez, why waste bandwidth, just get the patch, you losers.

    [ Suddenly, Anonymouse Coward notices that this article is about Q3A, not the kernel. ]

    Oh. Never mind.

    [ Anonymous Coward covers his head in shame and embarrassment. He does wish there was a bzip2 version though. ]

  57. is there a way to make it run in software only? by alexandre · · Score: 1

    i dont have a 3Dfx and i dont want one, what can i do! :(

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    1. Re:is there a way to make it run in software only? by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 1

      I already had the Mesa 3.0 rpm installed (for use with Blender and xscreensaver), and simply downloaded the q3test rpm and installed and ran it; it 'worked' first time. You can see the somewhat splendid-looking results at http://www.compsoc.man.ac.uk/~afoster/ - please don't laugh at the advanced HTML I used... :-)

      You can probably get the Mesa rpm from http://www.mesa3d.org/ or somewhere like ftp://contrib.redhat.com/

      Oh, and don't expect much in the way of performance - my P166MMX doesn't exactly fly in software mode.

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    2. Re:is there a way to make it run in software only? by Mr.+Piccolo · · Score: 1

      Well, you can get it semi-playable (~3 fps give or take) by setting screen size to 320x240, all detail to the worst level (even texture detail), sky to fastest, then go to console and do

      r_textureMode "GL_NEAREST"

      Q3Test will then look like crap compared to its former glory, but you'll be smooth enough to rocket-jump!

      ;-)

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    3. Re:is there a way to make it run in software only? by Swamp · · Score: 2

      You can run it in software mode. I did it today: the results are barely worth the effort, but it has to be done:

      This is by no means authoritive (in other words I bodged it but got something working). Get q3test rpm installed and get the Mesa rpm as well. Then run linuxq3test with the command which reads something like "+set libMesa-3.0" (check README for syntax). I got it running at work today, hence the rush job! I'm running Win98 at the moment so I can't give you an accurate syntax...

      However, if you don't have hardware acceleration you'll never be able to run q3 properly unless you have ~5,000 MHz machine :)

    4. Re:is there a way to make it run in software only? by Jburkholder · · Score: 1

      Well, its not playable, but it is useful for getting a dedicated linux server going on a machine that does not have a 3dfx card...

      (mine is at 24.131.182.112:27960 ;-)

      like they said on other posts you install libMesaGL but a step I saw somewhere that wasn't mentioned here (?) is to copy libMesaGL.so.3.1 to your /q3test directory as libGL.so

      Once I did this it finally worked, then got a glorious .25 fps - but like I said, this was more useful to get a dedicated server to run on my linux server, my workstation has a v2 and sb128pci and I had absolutely no issues installing or playing q3test on that setup.

      nVidia is supposed to release linux drivers for their TNT2 boards so that may be an option if you are adverse to 3dfx. (don't lets start the flame war over open source vs binary-only drivers again, I'm just making a comment, not advocating nVidia)

    5. Re:is there a way to make it run in software only? by geekFromMonroe · · Score: 1

      I wonder if it can be run on a cluster of stations. I have two machines one has two PPro 150's and the other has a nice ATI 8mg video card. Perhaps with some X magic or Beowulf stuff a person could run Mesa and X on one machine and Q3 on the other. I suspect the right combo for me would be to put the card on the dual PPro and run Mesa and X on that machine and run Q3 on the other displayed back to the dual machine.

  58. European Mirror Cluster by Yarn · · Score: 1

    Here points to a revolving (revolting?) DNS that'll send to one of five well connected sites serving Q3Atest, for all OS's availible

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  59. Win32 Midnight CST by ryder · · Score: 4

    The win32 version is supposedly going to be released around midnight CST.

  60. It's a lot more responsive on my PII266+Voodoo2 by MagPulse · · Score: 1

    Someone (Zoid?) said in their plan the new version is a lot quicker, and I agree. For the first test I felt like I was fighting my mouse the whole time to get my view to move even on fastest rendering, and now even with some nice options on it's better.

    1. Re:It's a lot more responsive on my PII266+Voodoo2 by funaho · · Score: 1

      Agreed. On my work machine (P233MMX, 64 megs RAM, 12 MB Voodoo2) it's actually very playable with all the "cool" options turned on (high-quality sky, high geometric detail, etc.). The previous version required me to turn off a lot of these options to avoid jerky gameplay.

      Now I gotta try the Win32 version on my Celeron 450...I hate booting back into Windows 98 but alas my 3D card is a Riva TNT. :(

  61. Just a minor nitpick.... by J4 · · Score: 1

    The voodoo3 works in 2d, no 3d accel _yet_ but they're working it.

  62. Re:Linux survival guide for Windows users by Bill+Currie · · Score: 1
    Hehe, could Q3 cause a mass migration (even if only temporary) to Linux? Even a temp migration would be good as it would whet the appetites of the more adventurous Win users. As in: hey, no bsod, Q3 runs nicely if I have the right hardware(a distinct problem, I admit) and hmm, this Linux ain't so bad.

    You never know, Q3 could be a turning point for the general acceptance of Linux.

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  63. If at first you don't succeed... by Bill+Currie · · Score: 1
    Well, you stuffed up the alternate ending to the saying (you didn't destroy all evidence of the attempt), but you've actually done quite well. Heck, even a unix guru would have problems getting X running properly on PC h/w, especially using alpha(?) drivers.

    I would like to suggest not giving up entirely. ie grab the W32 version for now, but keep trying with Linux. You just might find it worth the effort (I did, but I still can't play Q3: a 486-66 and ET4000 just doesn't cut it).

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    1. Re:If at first you don't succeed... by lightPhoenix · · Score: 1

      My big stumbling block was your problem also for a long time, so I decided hell, lets get another box. I was finishing off a warehouse of computers (the company I worked for had bought out the remains of aol snarfing compuserve & closing it's columbus oh headquarters), deeming machines dead & living, lo and behold I found a dual p150 bare bones. Linux doesn't retail and NT wouldn't run (cha-ching), so I negotiated 2 days of work for this computer. I already had a monitor and believe me, it got the best hardware of 1996 (, just built the machine in november98) such as vanilla 2940, 4mb millenium 2, sb32, buncha scsi and 3com509. RedHat 6.0 is beautiful on it.
      Moral of this story? Bagger computers are always availiable and you never know, you might stumble on something better. -jeff
      ps. Now my stumbling block is just being a slacker.

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  64. Re:Linux survival guide for Windows users by Bill+Currie · · Score: 1
    Hey, cool. No, I have no idea how many questions, but it's good to hear (maybe not for you, my sympathies).

    As to the sound cards, which ones? ALSA seems to support several, but I don't know enough about these things (though my sb128pci goes nicely, oh the joys of a tripple bus 486 (asus), 4 isa, 1 vesa, 3 pci).

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  65. web browsing by Bill+Currie · · Score: 1

    Have you tried lynx? It comes with RH and could save you alot of time. It's a textmode browser (ie text only, but I beleive you can set it up to use zgv to view images) that saved me pulling my hair out when I was setting up linux, especially when setting up X.

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  66. Re:Oh, man, that *would* be a topper... by Bill+Currie · · Score: 1

    Hehe, I've got a 386-33 w 16M acting as my firewall at home (redundant at the moment, as I use work as my ISP and I'm behind their firewall as well). I suppose I could grap q3test and run it on my 386, piping the output to my 486. That ought to slow things down enough :)

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  67. Re:Linux survival guide for Windows users by Bill+Currie · · Score: 1

    Suspected as much (ie totally unsupported cards). As I said, h/w would be the only thing really slowing down a Linux migration. Pitty. But...by the time I can get a new machine (with a lot of luck, next month (fingers and toes crossed)), the Matrox G200 might be in beta or even released (doubt the latter), and I've already got a sb128 in preparation.

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  68. You forgot.... by Bill+Currie · · Score: 1

    to pipe the display back to the other box.

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  69. bzip2 by Bill+Currie · · Score: 1

    Unfortunatly, bzip2 doesn't always work that well with binaries. I get .bz2's slightly bigger (5-10%) than .gz's often enough that I've given up bzip2ing binaries.

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  70. Re:P233 + quake by Peter+Amstutz · · Score: 1

    Yep. I've been playing on a SMP p200 with a voodoo1 and it's decently playable, maybe 25-30 FPS. Granted, I have everything set on "fastest rendering" and play at 512x384, but it's good enough to rule the local Q3T server :)

    On the other hand, that could be because I'm two 100baseT switches away from the server and am reported as having a 0 ping playing against people off the internet through a saturated 12 megabit line all pinging _at least_ 100 - 200 ;-)

    If your FPS is above 20, you'll be OK. For your p233, I'd actually suggest just getting a cheap voodoo1, the voodoo2 will processor bottleneck long before it will fill-rate bottleneck... Lots of unused rendering power. Same problem with a voodoo1 on a pentium, for that matter ;)

  71. Problem starting q3test by gavinhall · · Score: 1

    Posted by Bluskye:

    Can someone help, i installed the rpm for q3test, and the glide drivers for my Voodoo2. when i run ./linuxquake, it looks for Opengl drivers and such that i don't have. What am i doing wrong and do i need if any more files?

  72. Quake 3? by gavinhall · · Score: 1

    Posted by stodge:

    Bored already. Next......

  73. ZipSlack by patrikr · · Score: 1

    I think you should mention ZipSlack... Installs as UMSDOS, so no reformatting or anything required, and Linux lives in (for example) C:\LINUX.

    See www.slackware.com. (Although it seems to be down at the moment. :-P )

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  74. New Book Out W/ Caldera by BadlandZ · · Score: 2
    There is a book, I forget the name, that has all kinds of pretty pictures, and talks about how to use Linux that ANY windows user should be able to understand (has more pictures, and GUI discriptions than it does words).

    I saw it in the bookstore last week, i can't remember the name of it, but it includes Caldera, and it's only about 1/2" thick, 10"x10"????

    I remember thinking "I should get this for my mom..." Anyone know what it is?

  75. Right here... by Malc · · Score: 1

    3dfx Interactive: Voodoo 2 Linux Reference Drivers

    Mind you, these are the reference drivers, so you might like to check with the manufacturer of your graphics card. I know they seem to work with Quake2 and and STB Voodoo2.
  76. TNT support under linux... when? by Malc · · Score: 1

    Anybody have any news about the Riva TNT support for Q3 under Linux? All I've heard is that there should be support by the time that the TNT2 or Q3 is released. TNT2 is already shipping. I guess I'll just have to wait and play under NT :(

    1. Re:TNT support under linux... when? by Orm · · Score: 1

      I've read here on /. that Nvidia were going to say something about their (upcomming) Linux drivers these days. So I'm just waiting.

      But, on the other hand, as we all know.. It can take weeks. Even months....

      And I hate to wait...

  77. Lynx is ace - Re:web browsing by Malc · · Score: 1

    I often use Lynx because it's so fast. Obviously in the world of frames and other flashy HTML it can be tricky rendering in text mode. But it does a good job.

  78. Quit whining, there's a reason... by Malc · · Score: 1

    From what I've heard, ID Software released on non-win32 platforms first. Why? By targeting a platform (Mac and then Linux and finally Win32) with a smaller targer audience they won't get so many duplicated bug reports on the core cross-platform code. It saves them time and effort filtering and logging bugs.

  79. Re:Linux by Malc · · Score: 1

    Maybe you've got one of those crappy software-based WinModems (a cheap alternative to real modems where the manufacturer doesn't provide all of the functionality in the hardware... very, very common). If you have, forget it... or buy a real modem.

    Typical problems I've had are with a PnP modem without a PnP motherboard, resolved by IsaPnpTools. Other than that all I've ever had to do was symlink /dev/modem to the correct serial port and then test to see if I can talk to the modem with minicom.

  80. Win32 Version coming (from .plan file) by Malc · · Score: 3

    [idsoftware.com]
    Welcome to id Software's Finger Service V1.5!

    Name: Graeme Devine
    Email: zaphod@idsoftware.com
    Description: Some Guy
    Project:
    Last Updated: 05/10/1999 17:54:06 (Central Standard Time)
    -------------------------------------------------- -----------------------------
    5/10/99

    IMPORTANT!

    You must completely nuke your old Q3TEST install before installing the update.
    The config files from the old build are BAD voodoo.

    You can also type "exec democycle" to watch a bunch of id people play the map.


    5/10/99

    Q3Test 1.05 is DONE!

    New Linux/Mac versions are going up right now, and we're finishing up the installer
    for the Win32 version.

    If all goes well, the Win32 version will follow in a few hours (few == six or so).

  81. Quit whining, there's a reason... by Malc · · Score: 4

    From what I've heard, ID Software deliberately released on non-win32 platforms first. Why? By targeting a platform (Mac and then Linux and finally Win32) with a smaller targer audience they won't get so many duplicated bug reports on the core cross-platform code. It saves them time and effort filtering and logging bugs.

  82. Matrox G200 laments by copito · · Score: 2

    I have RH 6.0 working beautifully with a Matrox G200. I did an "Upgrade" install over 5.2, but a real install might work better. I couldn't get the real install to work (and no I'm not a Unix newbie either). 5.2 works well with a G200 but you need to get the X updates (mini gripe... the FTP installer should give the option of grabbing updates if available).

    I got the Quake to work briefly but I realized that I wasn't using GLX, but software only Mesa. Since then I haven't been able to get it to work at all, or any GLU stuff for that matter, although the X server does recognize the GLX extension at startup.

    In case you haven't run across it, a good page for getting Quake3 to run with Matrox is at http://www.linuxstart.com/~kva nce/projects/g200.html. And for those that want more G200 info, see http://reality.sgi.com/ri pperda_engr/glx/matrox_stat.html. As I have noted, it hasn't worked for me yet, but it's progressing pretty well.

    As an aside. Redhat 6.0 is a great upgrade for those of you running 5.2. The 2.2.5 kernel and glibc 2.1 make a noticable difference in speed, (and apparently make Netscape more stable, but this could be a mirage). It's nice to see that a company can issue an upgrade that performs better than the original. Thanks to all the hackers in and out of Redhat that made it happen. (And no, before you flame me, I haven't tried Debian yet, but I've got an empty partition just waiting for it.)





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    1. Re:Matrox G200 laments by Zoltar · · Score: 1

      >>>

      I just did a fresh install of RedHat V6.0 last night and I had the same impression. My throughput with netscape 4.51 seems much better than it was under 5.2. I was blaming netscape the whole time, turns out it may have been the kernel.

      Unfortunatly netscape still pulls it's occasional dissapearing trick on me....it's going along just fine...then poof...all gone. Ah well...bookmark often...:)

      By the way, the install was toooooo easy...or maybe I'm just blessed...about a half hour from start to finish...no problems ...gnome seems to work pretty well too....

  83. Re:MIRROR WIN32 by longspur · · Score: 1

    To restate the sentiments of those who posted above me, THANK YOU!, and "you truly are the Man!"

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  84. No. by Svartalf · · Score: 1

    Unless you like playing a game at 1-3 seconds per frame... :->

    Seriously, there's people working to make other display adapters work with this- it's just that you may have to wait until it ships before you can use something other than a Voodoo/Voodoo2 based adapter. Got any programming skills and a G200 or SiS 6326 based adapter? Join in on the fun and help us make this happen!

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  85. Slowest? Don't tempt me... by Svartalf · · Score: 1

    I'd set it up on this little overclocked 486-66 (to 80) machine I've got sitting over in the corner collecting dust... ;->

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    1. Re:Slowest? Don't tempt me... by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 1

      I imagine the only real 'limitation' is available memory - so if someone has a 32MB 386 out there, we'd like to know... :-)

      Although, would virtual memory count? It would probably drag the framerate down even further...

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  86. Oh, man, that *would* be a topper... by Svartalf · · Score: 1

    Uh, I think I could "scare" up one somewhere in my piles of old crap lying about. Only, I don't want to put the effort into scraping up that much RAM in 30-pin SIMMs.

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  87. Try Lynx for web browsing... by Svartalf · · Score: 1

    It proved immensely helpful and functional when I was trying to find out why the smeg that my SiS wasn't working worth a flip under the SVGA X server.

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  88. You're truly sick... I like... by Svartalf · · Score: 1

    If you pull that off, it'd be up there in the annals of perverse computing (not unlike the TTYQuake mods... ;-)

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  89. Quake3:Arena = Q3, Q3 Test = q3test... by Svartalf · · Score: 2

    This is the engine test version of Quake 3:Arena from Id Software. No, it's not a demo. It's a very ROUGH cut of the engine and some frameworks to get a feel for the playability of the game and to do a little showing off of Id's abilitites. If you've got a hot machine, have a 3DfX based display accelerator in your machine (or something suitably OpenGL supporting, more appropriately) you might be interested if you like things Quake...

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  90. Re:P233 + quake by petchema · · Score: 1

    Tried with a PII 350 + 192Mb + Voodoo2
    CPU usage was between 45% and 60% most of the time, with peaks at 100% when entering rooms/enabling new visual effects (like "quake power" effect).
    q3 also used 85Mb during play, so it may be playable with a voodoo2 and enough ram on your box.

  91. What about my Riva 128? by chirayu · · Score: 1

    Nvidia is crap. I dunno why I bought the Diamond Viper. Think I should sell it on eBay or something.

    CP-contemplates-on-a-voodoo2

  92. Mirror (multi T1) by Andrew+Lockhart · · Score: 1

    I'll have a mirror up at ftp://redwood.ml.org/pub/quake3/test/. I'll up the user limit from 100 to 200 for the hell of it too. At the moment I have it about 50% downloaded.

    1. Re:Mirror (multi T1) by Mr.+X · · Score: 1


      I appreciate it :)

  93. Linux survival guide for Windows users by Kiwi · · Score: 2
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    1. Re:Linux survival guide for Windows users by adiemus · · Score: 1

      Speaking of ALSA...has anyone gotten it to work with Q3test? I'm running ALSA 0.3.0-pre4 and I've not been able to get the sound to work. Yes, I've killed esd and checked the mixer levels. (Sound in Q2 works just fine) Q3 finds the card and there are no error messages, but there's also no sound. (Which makes for somewhat of a lesser gaming experience...) Perhaps I'm just cursed.

      Chris

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    2. Re:Linux survival guide for Windows users by Tim_F · · Score: 1

      Not an entirely related comment, but why does the above mentioned easter bunny page cause Opera 3.6 to crash? Non standard HTML? It works fine (if slow, seeing as Navigator 3.0 is slower) in Navigator 3.0.

    3. Re:Linux survival guide for Windows users by Chris+Pimlott · · Score: 1

      What do you mean, "could"? Do you know how many Linux questions I've answered on IRC over the last week from hard core gamers itching to play Q3Test?

      Now, I doubt many (if any) of the people I talked to will stay... some had a reasonable deal of difficulty getting their systems going, and there was a lot of "What do you mean there aren't any good drivers for my sound card?" going on...

    4. Re:Linux survival guide for Windows users by Chris+Pimlott · · Score: 1

      Well, a lot of the hard core gaming folks have either A3D cards or SB Live's. Neither of which have drivers that are quite up to full snuff yet.

    5. Re:Linux survival guide for Windows users by Chris+Pimlott · · Score: 1

      I myself am stuck with an a3d card... actually, it's just sitting unused now, I've got an old SB 16 tiding me over.

    6. Re:Linux survival guide for Windows users by ywwg · · Score: 1

      I would have played it except that the TNT is unsupported. Only voodoo foos can play it.

  94. Re:Thanks! by doomicon · · Score: 1

    After mulling around for 40 minutes trying to connect to Xmission and cdrom.com, I said "Hey, I know some kick ass ppl on slashdot have already posted personal mirrors" SLASHDOT READERS are the BEST!

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  95. Re:Forgive me... q3test? by aok · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic to imply that the news item was poorly written, but just in case...

    q3test is a technology test released by id Software for their upcoming game Quake 3: Arena. They release the test so that the public can report bugs to them so that the final product will be much more solid than if they did in-house bug-hunting. I don't think they've released a Windows version yet because they are waiting for the 3d card manufacturers to finish up their OpenGL drivers.

  96. Re:P233 + quake by Logan · · Score: 2
    I have the same setup (only I have a voodoo1 instead), and Q3 is quite playable. You just have to go without a few features like high resolutions, curved surfaces, dynamic lighting, etc. Some parts are still a little choppy, but it's not too bad.

    logan

  97. Re:.deb avabilable by Anonymous+Coed · · Score: 1
    A deb of binary-only software? Evil! EVIL!

    I know you're joking, but debian/non-free is oh, several hundred megabytes ;-)

    [ I don't have a 3dfx. Think sour grapes :-P ]

    Voodoo 1's are about $30 these days. V2's are less than $100. There's really no excuse.

    I only have a measly P-233mmx with a V1 and Q3 test, especially the new build, is perfectly playable. Even on the lowest detail settings it looks nicer than Quake2.

  98. SysReq's by Accipiter · · Score: 1
    Does anyone know the ABSOLUTE BARE system requirements to run Q3, and also, I'd like the average system req's and the Recommended ones. I'd really appriciate it.

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  99. mirror (win32 only) by Spaceman7 · · Score: 1

    Since I'm feeling sorry for anyone trying to get it from the planetquake mirror list:
    q3test_1_05.exe

  100. Linux by Kyobu · · Score: 1

    I would like to run it on Linux, but I can't. I have Linux, and I'm not a total newbie. I still can't get my modem working under Red Hat 5.2, though. So I guess I'll have to wait until tonight.

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  101. Re:linuxq3 1.05 dedicated servers? by Chris+Pimlott · · Score: 1

    Zoid has said you need to renice it manually.

  102. Re:Win32, screwed again by Wee · · Score: 1
    Well if you can't beat us, join us. Surely you can spare some partition space for linux and Q3test

    I've got 6 gigs on two separate drives free on my dual boot machine. I've got over 5 gigs free on my dedicated Linux box. Yet I still can't play. Q3 won't run on the dedicated box (I use it as a gateway/ftp server; it's only a PPro 150), and I just bought a Voodoo3 card for the dual boot (an AMD K6-2/300).

    So what should I do? Put the old Voodoo2 I took out and try to play on a PPro 150, or put the Voodoo2 and my old crappy 2d VGA card back into the fast machine so I can play Q3? It isn't a matter of disk space. There are lots of other ways Linux users can't play the newest Q3test. I have three times as much disk space formatted as ext2 partitions than I do FAT32 partitions, and I'm completely bummin'.

    And while I got the rant all fired up: I don't mind saying that I feel a bit ripped off after buying the Voodoo3. Sure, it looks great in Windows (it's an amazing 2D card, way better than my three year old S3), but I'm still having trouble just getting 2D to work in Linux (much less 3D -- I'm coming to think it'll never be supported). I know you take your chances when you buy new hardware for Linux, but I figured 3Dfx would be different.

    And I really hoped id software would stay different and at least attempt support for the Voodoo3. (I mean, how hard can it be? It's a friggin' overclocked Rush for cryin' out loud! The specs had to be out there somewhere...)

    -B

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  103. linuxq3 1.05 dedicated servers? by rebrane · · Score: 1
    i've been running a q3 dedicated server in my spare CPU time since the first test came out.. but i've noticed that on the new test, it takes about 85-90% CPU even when nobody is connected. has anyone else noticed this? does anyone know why?

    --neil
    1. Re:linuxq3 1.05 dedicated servers? by rebrane · · Score: 1
      renicing it doesn't make it take less than 90% CPU if i'm not using more than 10% CPU anyway. i think what he means is 'i'm too stupid to write streamlined code, so just renice it and it won't get in the way of anything important.' hopefully there will be enough people who don't care to run servers, because i ain't gonna be running one.

      --neil

    2. Re:linuxq3 1.05 dedicated servers? by TREMOR · · Score: 1

      Yep, I'm at 98.2%...I think they messed something up pretty bad. This is on a K6-2/350...hmmm....

  104. Especially among users of 3dfx hardware... by Edward+Carter · · Score: 1

    3dfx really seems to be having trouble getting a working OpenGL ICD for Windows for Quake3 out the door on time...

  105. .deb avabilable by Edward+Carter · · Score: 1

    I have converted the .rpm to a .deb with alien and put it up on ftp at 150.135.194.252

  106. I've got mine. by sweetooth · · Score: 1

    Three minutes after cdrom.com had it up /. had it posted, that should be some kind of record.

  107. Re:MIRROR WIN32 by elixir · · Score: 1

    I love ya, man! =) 75KB/s!!!

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  108. Q3TEST Servers by M1000 · · Score: 1

    Where are the servers list ???

    I've seen a list on underworld.idsoftware.com but there is nothing now... ???

  109. Re:MIRROR WIN32 by karnal · · Score: 1

    it's been said before...

    Let me say it again....

    THANK YOU!!! YOU DA MAN!!! cdrom.com is getting crushed....4k... I got 60 FROM YA!!! jeesus....

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  110. Win32, screwed again by Senzar · · Score: 0

    We cannot win!

    1. Re:Win32, screwed again by Random+Frequency · · Score: 2

      Woah nelly.

      It is NOT an overclocked RUSH.

      It is basically a faster voodoo banshee with an extra texture unit.

      ID doesn't support glide. They only use OpenGL, which has a library link to the glide library, which handles the hardware side of things.

      If you want to bitch about support, do it to Daryll Strauss, or to 3dfx(they have to approve the drivers both legally and for compatibility).

      If you read the documentation, all you need is libGL.so, which can be provided with your X server(accelX, metroX, etc), or use the libMesaGlide.so lib, which is and OpenGL implementation in glide.

  111. Re:P233 + quake by chrismcc@netus.com · · Score: 1

    Along the same lines...

    I am looking to upgrade from a diamond S3 w/ a voodoo1 to something with dual monitors and some sort of Voodoo2/3 card{,s}. 2D performance is more inportant but running Q3 comes in second. Could someone recomend an online hardware vendor that knows linux well? I remember seeing a URL to a couple of vendors that had "running linux" type icons on their web sites.

    TIA

    Christopher McCrory
    Lead Bithead, Netus Inc.
    chrismcc@netus.com
    admin@netus.com

    "Linux: Because rebooting is for adding new hardware"
    "Linux: Because Dilbert's mom uses it"

    --
    Christopher McCrory "The guy that keeps the servers running" chrismcc@gmail.com http://www.pricegrabber.com
  112. P233 + quake by guacamole · · Score: 1

    Ok, I got a performace question. I got a P233 MMX Linux box sitting in front of me. I wonder if it is even worth buying a Voodoo2 or a Banshee video card just for the sake of running Q3 on it (Buying a new box or upgrading CPU is not an option). Did anyone try Q3 on a similar box (Pentium MMX 200/233mmx + Voodoo2) and Linux? Is it playable?

  113. Re:MIRROR WIN32 by lightPhoenix · · Score: 1

    Silly to say this, but dude, you are *the man*, in an excellent way. When the list on voodooextreme was hit up like a drunk sorority girl at OSU, I knew I could turn to /. to save me. Thank man.

    --
    http://www.somethingpositive.net Funny + bitter = comedy gold
  114. here's a URL for instructions by Jburkholder · · Score: 1
  115. they already know by Jburkholder · · Score: 1

    They already know...

    There's one known issue with the Linux dedicated server taking up way too much CPU time. As other known issues come to light we'll try to keep you all in the loop. Please try and email q3feedback with a good sensible subject line, mention what sort of system/OS you have, and remember that humans read all the feedback.

  116. Re:MIRROR WIN32 (Thank you!) by starvo · · Score: 1

    Aww yes... Thank you VERY much?
    You on ADSL or cable? (or work? :-)

    My little ADSL line is maxing out right now...
    ~120K per sec... Thank you!

    --
    http://thepoliticalgeek.com/blog/ Politics for Geeks.
  117. TROLL!!! by Pont · · Score: 1

    Ok, I get it.

    You're making a statement about how you feel that slashdot should stick to Linux/BSD news instead of this pesky, frivolous Quake and Star Wars stuff.

    Heaven forbid "News For Nerds" could also mean stuff that's fun.

    I hear you. I'm sure Rob is working on a way for you to filter out all the entertaining news so you can stick to things like "New RTFMLib 0.89.01 Released".

  118. REPORT THE BUG THEN! by sliderr · · Score: 1

    This is a test..report the bug and they'll fix it.

  119. Re:MIRROR WIN32 (Thank you!) by slashdot-me · · Score: 1

    University ethernet, of course!
    http://www.ryans.dhs.org

  120. MIRROR by slashdot-me · · Score: 2

    I have the RPM at
    http://www.ryans.dhs.org:1430/media
    The mirrors didn't have the tarball yet, should be up later.

    http://www.ryans.dhs.org

  121. MIRROR WIN32 by slashdot-me · · Score: 2

    http://www.ryans.dhs.org:1430/media
    All versions mirroed!


    http://www.ryans.dhs.org

  122. MIRROR -- all versions by slashdot-me · · Score: 2

    I have all versions of q3test mirrored at

    http://www.ryans.dhs.org:1430/media

    The server is a pentium 133 with ethernet to the backbone! Expect 50 - 150 KB/s download speeds.

    Check the realtime load here.


    http://www.ryans.dhs.org