How the hell was the first comment offtopic? Oh, we aren't supposed to discuss stuff? The second reply came after the moderation, and I already said it was likely to be offtopic.
I'm sorry I've been around for a while and don't Karma Whore with everyone else. I post my opinion. Always. I don't cater to what I think will get posted up or down.
Use your points to mod intersting stuff up instead of wasting them by modding down stuff you don't agree with. Christ, there were how many trolls that weren't touched when my comment got modded down? My comment was the best one that could be found to be modded down?
This comment will be my third to get moderated down, and in the same thread no less. There are far more deserving comments that should have had the point used to be modded up.
Yeah yeah, YHBT, YHL, HAND, but I don't really care.
Yeah, *THIS* post might be offtopic, but the above wasn't. That's the first post that I'd ever had moderated down, and this will likely be the second.
"Hmmmm, he mentioned MS in a fashion not suited to bashing, he must be moderated down." I bash MS quite often, but I will give them credit when it's due.
Why don't you reply so we can have a little discussion instead of hiding behind anonymity? Oh, never mind, I forgot that this is slashdot.
I understand the importance of Google and the like, but let me give an example from the MS side of things, and why we love it.
SQL Server and Access both come with the Northwind database. If I have some new query that I'm trying to write, for instance randomly returning different numbers of products for each product category, it is pretty darn handy to have a standardized data set to pull from for my example code.
Otherwise, I have to include DDL and DML just to create the example data. Instead, I can just say "Run this against Northwind."
The same applies for training and learning. Northwind is a pretty well known database, and most established developers won't have to learn a new schema in order to demonstrate a new concept.
So rephrase the question from "Where can I find some data?" to "Where can I find a data set that other developers are using so we can more intelligently exchange information?"
If the user has read the email, then the recall fails.
(And this is how I find out about Outlook's recall features) The "sysadmin" at my old company sent out a big powerpoint presentation on how to send an attachement as a shortcut instead of an attachement because they were having trouble with filespace. Would you care to guess how he sent out the presentation?
Since I learned Unix on the big shared machine, I always thought it was built into the OS from the beginning. Was almost dissapointed when I installed Linux and found out it was something they added.
I don't remember all the particulars, but they had a "Charon" daemon that handled the deleted files. You had a pretty good chance up to a couple of days of recovering files, then they were permanently gone.
Someone is working on this for FreeBSD, but I haven't seen a Linux equivalent.
The arguement for businesses to read your private email is that they own the network (there is another arguement that they Must read your email.) Since they don't own the wireless network for your phone or your phone, then they couldn't legally tap into it. Don't get me wrong, I know some slimey HR types that might agree that it'd be good to tap cells and the payphones at my ex-employer, but it's still not legal.
I haven't had a true tech job yet, and was kicked out of college so I don't have a degree. What do I have? I do have a cert, but I don't think it was hard to get. I learned SQL within a couple of weeks, visual basic in a day, and I already had the design skills, so a MCSD was pretty easy to accomplish. If I had a degree I'd probably have a job doing development, instead of looking at going back to a factory job or something similar while I work on getting up enough money to go to school again.
First off, IANAL (The typical slashdot disclaimer) and I'm assuming that the patent posters have provided links to is the right one.
Patents have to apply to very specific things, and they have to spell out every fricking little detail. That's why the claims read like legaleeze.
If you keep reading though, you'll see that their patent applies to processing video signals. It could cover movies or TV shows, but there is no way you could translate that into still images.
Most of the patent is talking about how to compare differences in frames and then determining the best method to send the next frame. (ie. send the new frame vs sending what's changed in the frame.)
I don't have time to look at the other patent referenced in that they also claim to own. However, it looks like it could apply to jpegs from the way it was referenced.
You're forgetting the client connection license. You buy a license for an individual client cimputer, and it has the "right" to connect to however many servers you want. However, I don't think that a cluster would fall under the CAL's anyway. The last time I did any reading on MS's server products, you didn't need licenses for servers to talk to each other. Just a CAL for each client that connected to the server. (Including clients that connect to a proxy that then connects to the server.)
That last link should've been to here instead of that stupid advertising page. Chances of posting a mistake is directly proportional to how critical your post is of something.
Christ, who the heck monitors ask slashdot for articles to post?
(And who's idea was it for the lameness filter to look at the subject for "First ever slashdot rant"? Why don't you go for the penis birds or something. Of course, you could just have the lameness filter automoderate down a post rather than just disallow it all-together. Nah, we all want to be small dictators telling everyone else what is "cool")
I've submitted what I would consider very valid questions that get rejected (I REALLY wish there was a reason line for why an article was rejected, something to think about as a needed feature IMHO) while a question that is very similar, but is almost worthless to me because of the slight differences, gets posted less than a week later.
Of course, then we have crap like this. This is an extremely old chestnut on usenet and all sorts of websites have been put up addressing it. Even a slight amount of actual work to research the issues would have turned up a few dozen articles that are much better than any of the responses given so far.
I know, why don't you go to Deja News and look for usenet articles with the title D3D vs OpenGL (Or opengl vs d3d) that constantly get regurtitated every 2-3 weeks from someone new asking this exact same question without _looking_ to see if it is answered anywhere. I'd be willing to even bet this is in the opengl faq (Though I'm not looking in it to find out, I just think it's a safe bet.) Go to the faq repository and look for comp.graphics.api.opengl (or was it graphics.programming.api.opengl?).
While fruit is nice, let's face it, that lil' devil guy is just plain cute. I'd love to see one engraved on the outside of an imac's case.
(Though I've only gotten as far as reading about the integration of the filesystems. That's one of my few complaints about Java, using the file_seperator token is just plain annoying/tedious, though it looks like that won't be an issue for working with this system, but I haven't finished reading yet.)
One of my chief complaints of Napster is that it removes a lot of choices. Let's take my friend Brian as an example (I'm way to paranoid to run the thing myself.)
He has a largish collection of mp3's (most burnt to cd's at this point) that took months to rip from the original CD's. He goes onto napster, and what happens? Almost immediately people start to download his Joe Satriani (sp) and Metallica mp3's. He _looks_ for a way to remove them from being downloaded, after all, it is technically illegal and he doesn't really want to break the law. He's on napster to find some very specific rare and hard to find songs (like a copy of BOC's Godzilla where they chant godzilla instead of having a pure musical interlude, or a copy of Kill the Wabbit) Guess what, he can't find that option. He tried to "Remove from playlist" his entire collection to stop the copying, but that didn't work. It just deleted his entire collection (yes, delete, unrecoverable.) ruining months of work (which is why they are burnt on to CD's now)
Where is the option that let's me comply with the law and not allow people to copy copyrighted songs from me? It might be there, but after a few days of searching it might as well not exist.
There is another crime involved that you might want to research. Contributory Copyright Infringement. This one carries many of the same penalties as the actual infringement, and napster will get nailed for it.
As for Metallica being "evil" as I saw someone put it, they are doing only what napster asked them to do. Take a look at napster from M's perspective. They see them as a greedy company positioning themselves for a huge IPO to reap millions, by more or less encouraging people to pirate. They aren't against MP3's, or online distribution, they ARE against not Even Being Given a Choice. Remember Choice? It's one of the things slashdotters complain about constantly not having.
Sure they could go after the traders, but like, that would be attacking their fans, something they are being made fun of for doing. They have only done what Napster has _asked_ them to do. It really is a catch twenty-two. The only way for them to "win" is to get napster to shut down, or at least provide the tools so people can choose not to provide every single fucking mp3 on their hardrive for anyone to download.
Sometime ago, a judge found that non-compete agreements that some employees must sign were invalid because 5 years is just too long a time in the IT industry.
Forgive me my lack of legal knowledge, but wouldn't that also apply to garbage like this? I mean, the relationship isn't exact, but the same reasoning must surely follow for both cases?
However, how much effect does this have for those unfortunate ISPS in the UK? (J/K) I haven't kept track, but The-ISP-I-Can't-Remember-the-Name-of that removed an article from its news spool for being libellous is still fighting its appeal IIRC, is there a precedent for using an example from an American court in British ones? I don't think so, but who knows IANAM.
This has some very good implications, although as far as I can see this only really applies to Boards where the owners merely reserve the right to edit and email, only a brain dead judge wouldn't apply this to usenet.
However, does this apply to webpages? I tend to think the ISP's would be free from liability for evil things on a page, but I don't see that spelled out in this ruling.
No, no it isn't. Or at least not in the desktop environment. Server side, it's fine and is gaining ground, but I still don't want to setup a linux box for mom and pop.
Just a note, but people will take you more seriously if you can keep "trademark" and "copyright" seperated:)
But seriously, you are right in the other aspects. The real way to "fix" this is to get the laws change, which likely won't happen because lawyers are predominantly the ones who are making the laws.
Unfortunately, joining the US congress is akin to the Kiss of Death to somebodies career. This is why almost every congress-person, indeed almost everyone in government, is generally retired and independantly wealthy, or a career politician. This is why doctors and other professionals generally don't run for office. As soon as the legislature is in session, they have to leave and most of their clients will leave for other pastures.
So what's the solution? I have no frickin idea. I just think the root problem has to be fixed before attempting to get anything done, or else the "solutions" will be corrupted and things will always remain the same.
With a resolution of 1 meter, I don't think nude beaches would be a problem:)
The real problem is taking photo's of "sensitive" areas IMHO. I've heard of a company that made underwater maps of the ocean near the coasts that were so detailed, that they were found to be dangerous to national security (however, from what I heard someone in the government got a contract with them, though they couldn't seel them to anyone else)
What type of controls are going to be setup to prevent someone from buying photos of nuclear silo sites or army bases? Foreign governments have their own spy satellites by now most likely, but does anyone think the some branch of the government might get a little antsy about this? (Though I predict very soon that the tabloids will have a new "Jesus seen in snow bank" series of articles soon)
Unfortunately, the subject line might just might be a grim fate. Our government seems to be concentrating on the small things and ignoring the blatantly obvious.
This is just the first step into dominating an entirely new market. Banks have known for some time that MS has been maneuvering to put itself into the position of controlling (or should I say facillitating?) all online transactions. There _will_ be a huge profit in this eventually. If they become entrenched enough, they'll make sure there are two protocols for online transactions. Theirs and an "unsafe" one (this won't be true, but it'll be what they are telling your bosses.) At some point we will become dependant on them for everything from TV's to toasters.
It's only when we combine them collecting personal information and unique hardware ID's that we can truly be scared.
HAH, you've obviously haven't been to my library. The computers are in a public area and it never stopped the wierdos from looking. It will only stop someone if they actually care about what people think of them.
Of course, the library installed filtering software a while back, and banned email, message boards, chat, and news (boards? I don't know. didn't check. If it's just news, then that's a bit scarier.) Why didn't they just say all the 13-18 year-olds couldn't sex chat? That was the number one activity on them anyway.
It just isn't right that when I didn't have an ISP I, by the rules (like that stopped me. Filtering software or not,) couldn't check Usenet for infomation on hex based geometry for use in an isometric engine, but could cheerily browse the beenie baby price lists.
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I usually use names like I_am_not_<%= person I don't like %>
That's fun on so many levels.
How the hell was the first comment offtopic? Oh, we aren't supposed to discuss stuff? The second reply came after the moderation, and I already said it was likely to be offtopic.
I'm sorry I've been around for a while and don't Karma Whore with everyone else. I post my opinion. Always. I don't cater to what I think will get posted up or down.
Use your points to mod intersting stuff up instead of wasting them by modding down stuff you don't agree with. Christ, there were how many trolls that weren't touched when my comment got modded down? My comment was the best one that could be found to be modded down?
This comment will be my third to get moderated down, and in the same thread no less. There are far more deserving comments that should have had the point used to be modded up.
Yeah yeah, YHBT, YHL, HAND, but I don't really care.
Yeah, *THIS* post might be offtopic, but the above wasn't. That's the first post that I'd ever had moderated down, and this will likely be the second.
"Hmmmm, he mentioned MS in a fashion not suited to bashing, he must be moderated down." I bash MS quite often, but I will give them credit when it's due.
Why don't you reply so we can have a little discussion instead of hiding behind anonymity? Oh, never mind, I forgot that this is slashdot.
Oh yeah, and I realize that the article's poster/asker really is just wanting data, but I would like to see this turned into another topic entirely.
I understand the importance of Google and the like, but let me give an example from the MS side of things, and why we love it.
SQL Server and Access both come with the Northwind database. If I have some new query that I'm trying to write, for instance randomly returning different numbers of products for each product category, it is pretty darn handy to have a standardized data set to pull from for my example code.
Otherwise, I have to include DDL and DML just to create the example data. Instead, I can just say "Run this against Northwind."
The same applies for training and learning. Northwind is a pretty well known database, and most established developers won't have to learn a new schema in order to demonstrate a new concept.
So rephrase the question from "Where can I find some data?" to "Where can I find a data set that other developers are using so we can more intelligently exchange information?"
If the user has read the email, then the recall fails.
(And this is how I find out about Outlook's recall features)
The "sysadmin" at my old company sent out a big powerpoint presentation on how to send an attachement as a shortcut instead of an attachement because they were having trouble with filespace. Would you care to guess how he sent out the presentation?
Since I learned Unix on the big shared machine, I always thought it was built into the OS from the beginning. Was almost dissapointed when I installed Linux and found out it was something they added.
I don't remember all the particulars, but they had a "Charon" daemon that handled the deleted files. You had a pretty good chance up to a couple of days of recovering files, then they were permanently gone.
Someone is working on this for FreeBSD, but I haven't seen a Linux equivalent.
The arguement for businesses to read your private email is that they own the network (there is another arguement that they Must read your email.) Since they don't own the wireless network for your phone or your phone, then they couldn't legally tap into it. Don't get me wrong, I know some slimey HR types that might agree that it'd be good to tap cells and the payphones at my ex-employer, but it's still not legal.
Always keep an eye on your junior employees when you turn down one of their ideas or they'll backstab you later.
Actually, it sounds like that CIO was a prick with no real vision for the future. Sounds like he was real fun to work with.
I agree completely.
I haven't had a true tech job yet, and was kicked out of college so I don't have a degree. What do I have? I do have a cert, but I don't think it was hard to get. I learned SQL within a couple of weeks, visual basic in a day, and I already had the design skills, so a MCSD was pretty easy to accomplish. If I had a degree I'd probably have a job doing development, instead of looking at going back to a factory job or something similar while I work on getting up enough money to go to school again.
First off, IANAL (The typical slashdot disclaimer) and I'm assuming that the patent posters have provided links to is the right one.
Patents have to apply to very specific things, and they have to spell out every fricking little detail. That's why the claims read like legaleeze.
If you keep reading though, you'll see that their patent applies to processing video signals. It could cover movies or TV shows, but there is no way you could translate that into still images.
Most of the patent is talking about how to compare differences in frames and then determining the best method to send the next frame. (ie. send the new frame vs sending what's changed in the frame.)
I don't have time to look at the other patent referenced in that they also claim to own. However, it looks like it could apply to jpegs from the way it was referenced.
You're forgetting the client connection license. You buy a license for an individual client cimputer, and it has the "right" to connect to however many servers you want. However, I don't think that a cluster would fall under the CAL's anyway. The last time I did any reading on MS's server products, you didn't need licenses for servers to talk to each other. Just a CAL for each client that connected to the server. (Including clients that connect to a proxy that then connects to the server.)
That last link should've been to here instead of that stupid advertising page. Chances of posting a mistake is directly proportional to how critical your post is of something.
Christ, who the heck monitors ask slashdot for articles to post?
(And who's idea was it for the lameness filter to look at the subject for "First ever slashdot rant"? Why don't you go for the penis birds or something. Of course, you could just have the lameness filter automoderate down a post rather than just disallow it all-together. Nah, we all want to be small dictators telling everyone else what is "cool")
I've submitted what I would consider very valid questions that get rejected (I REALLY wish there was a reason line for why an article was rejected, something to think about as a needed feature IMHO) while a question that is very similar, but is almost worthless to me because of the slight differences, gets posted less than a week later.
Of course, then we have crap like this. This is an extremely old chestnut on usenet and all sorts of websites have been put up addressing it. Even a slight amount of actual work to research the issues would have turned up a few dozen articles that are much better than any of the responses given so far.
I know, why don't you go to Deja News and look for usenet articles with the title D3D vs OpenGL (Or opengl vs d3d) that constantly get regurtitated every 2-3 weeks from someone new asking this exact same question without _looking_ to see if it is answered anywhere. I'd be willing to even bet this is in the opengl faq (Though I'm not looking in it to find out, I just think it's a safe bet.) Go to the faq repository and look for comp.graphics.api.opengl (or was it graphics.programming.api.opengl?).
Which mascot? The apple or little daemon guy.
While fruit is nice, let's face it, that lil' devil guy is just plain cute. I'd love to see one engraved on the outside of an imac's case.
(Though I've only gotten as far as reading about the integration of the filesystems. That's one of my few complaints about Java, using the file_seperator token is just plain annoying/tedious, though it looks like that won't be an issue for working with this system, but I haven't finished reading yet.)
One of my chief complaints of Napster is that it removes a lot of choices. Let's take my friend Brian as an example (I'm way to paranoid to run the thing myself.)
He has a largish collection of mp3's (most burnt to cd's at this point) that took months to rip from the original CD's. He goes onto napster, and what happens? Almost immediately people start to download his Joe Satriani (sp) and Metallica mp3's. He _looks_ for a way to remove them from being downloaded, after all, it is technically illegal and he doesn't really want to break the law. He's on napster to find some very specific rare and hard to find songs (like a copy of BOC's Godzilla where they chant godzilla instead of having a pure musical interlude, or a copy of Kill the Wabbit) Guess what, he can't find that option. He tried to "Remove from playlist" his entire collection to stop the copying, but that didn't work. It just deleted his entire collection (yes, delete, unrecoverable.) ruining months of work (which is why they are burnt on to CD's now)
Where is the option that let's me comply with the law and not allow people to copy copyrighted songs from me? It might be there, but after a few days of searching it might as well not exist.
There is another crime involved that you might want to research. Contributory Copyright Infringement. This one carries many of the same penalties as the actual infringement, and napster will get nailed for it.
As for Metallica being "evil" as I saw someone put it, they are doing only what napster asked them to do. Take a look at napster from M's perspective. They see them as a greedy company positioning themselves for a huge IPO to reap millions, by more or less encouraging people to pirate. They aren't against MP3's, or online distribution, they ARE against not Even Being Given a Choice. Remember Choice? It's one of the things slashdotters complain about constantly not having.
Sure they could go after the traders, but like, that would be attacking their fans, something they are being made fun of for doing. They have only done what Napster has _asked_ them to do. It really is a catch twenty-two. The only way for them to "win" is to get napster to shut down, or at least provide the tools so people can choose not to provide every single fucking mp3 on their hardrive for anyone to download.
Sometime ago, a judge found that non-compete agreements that some employees must sign were invalid because 5 years is just too long a time in the IT industry.
Forgive me my lack of legal knowledge, but wouldn't that also apply to garbage like this? I mean, the relationship isn't exact, but the same reasoning must surely follow for both cases?
However, how much effect does this have for those unfortunate ISPS in the UK? (J/K) I haven't kept track, but The-ISP-I-Can't-Remember-the-Name-of that removed an article from its news spool for being libellous is still fighting its appeal IIRC, is there a precedent for using an example from an American court in British ones? I don't think so, but who knows IANAM.
This has some very good implications, although as far as I can see this only really applies to Boards where the owners merely reserve the right to edit and email, only a brain dead judge wouldn't apply this to usenet.
However, does this apply to webpages? I tend to think the ISP's would be free from liability for evil things on a page, but I don't see that spelled out in this ruling.
No, no it isn't. Or at least not in the desktop environment. Server side, it's fine and is gaining ground, but I still don't want to setup a linux box for mom and pop.
Just a note, but people will take you more seriously if you can keep "trademark" and "copyright" seperated :)
But seriously, you are right in the other aspects. The real way to "fix" this is to get the laws change, which likely won't happen because lawyers are predominantly the ones who are making the laws.
Unfortunately, joining the US congress is akin to the Kiss of Death to somebodies career. This is why almost every congress-person, indeed almost everyone in government, is generally retired and independantly wealthy, or a career politician. This is why doctors and other professionals generally don't run for office. As soon as the legislature is in session, they have to leave and most of their clients will leave for other pastures.
So what's the solution? I have no frickin idea. I just think the root problem has to be fixed before attempting to get anything done, or else the "solutions" will be corrupted and things will always remain the same.
With a resolution of 1 meter, I don't think nude beaches would be a problem :)
The real problem is taking photo's of "sensitive" areas IMHO. I've heard of a company that made underwater maps of the ocean near the coasts that were so detailed, that they were found to be dangerous to national security (however, from what I heard someone in the government got a contract with them, though they couldn't seel them to anyone else)
What type of controls are going to be setup to prevent someone from buying photos of nuclear silo sites or army bases? Foreign governments have their own spy satellites by now most likely, but does anyone think the some branch of the government might get a little antsy about this? (Though I predict very soon that the tabloids will have a new "Jesus seen in snow bank" series of articles soon)
Unfortunately, the subject line might just might be a grim fate. Our government seems to be concentrating on the small things and ignoring the blatantly obvious.
This is just the first step into dominating an entirely new market. Banks have known for some time that MS has been maneuvering to put itself into the position of controlling (or should I say facillitating?) all online transactions. There _will_ be a huge profit in this eventually. If they become entrenched enough, they'll make sure there are two protocols for online transactions. Theirs and an "unsafe" one (this won't be true, but it'll be what they are telling your bosses.) At some point we will become dependant on them for everything from TV's to toasters.
It's only when we combine them collecting personal information and unique hardware ID's that we can truly be scared.
I'm sorry, I'm having a _LOT_ of trouble figuring out where the hell he said life is pointless.
Hmmm, could it be that he didn't and you are just knee jerking from his comments? I think so.
There are a lot better arguements for why life is "sacred" and you missed all of them.
HAH, you've obviously haven't been to my library. The computers are in a public area and it never stopped the wierdos from looking. It will only stop someone if they actually care about what people think of them.
Of course, the library installed filtering software a while back, and banned email, message boards, chat, and news (boards? I don't know. didn't check. If it's just news, then that's a bit scarier.) Why didn't they just say all the 13-18 year-olds couldn't sex chat? That was the number one activity on them anyway.
It just isn't right that when I didn't have an ISP I, by the rules (like that stopped me. Filtering software or not,) couldn't check Usenet for infomation on hex based geometry for use in an isometric engine, but could cheerily browse the beenie baby price lists.
Heh. Now this is funny. Now if only they posted the complete header information, we might be able to tell if it was a forgery or if it was him.
Of course, I have no idea who Joe Barr is, so it could be obvious it is him, but I always like to give some lee-way before making a snap judgement.