As I understand it, and I'm not claiming to be an authority or anything, the entire reason the phrase "GNU/Linux" sprang into being is that aside from the kernel, the majority of what constitutes the "operating system" for every linux distribution I'm aware of is made up of GNU components. If someone just shipped item A) from your above post, it would cease to be "GNU/Linux" and would be just "Linux". I don't see why this entire post degenerated into a discussion of who's trolling where, unless I'm utterly mistaken, it's pretty cut and dry that "Linux" is a kernel, whereas *BSD is an operating system. You can't obtain just a kernel of FreeBSD, NetBSD, or OpenBSD, and it would be fairly useless without the associated userland code. The source tree is intended to be used as a whole. With a Linux kernel, you can just update to the latest kernel with a minimum of fuss (Generally speaking, while it's not always perfect, but it's not bad at all, really). In any BSD OS I've used, upgrading the kernel independently of the base system can cause a plethora of problems as memory structures, devices and more can and do change. It is not meant to be used apart from the base system it was distributed with. This is all pretty cut and dry, I don't know why that chap above thought I was trolling, is this matter really open for debate? *BSD is distributed as a cohesive fully operational operating system. Linux is a kernel. Linux distributions ship as a fully operational operation system, generally composed of GNU tools. Is there any room for in there?
- Kythorn
Hawk: This isn't intended at you, but more as a general response to this thread.
Linux is just a kernel. *BSD is a fully functional operating system.
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Did you even bother to read hit the link or view the press release, or were you just in a hurry to post a Catz-esque rant? I don't want to come across here as overly aggressive, but either you didn't bother to read a single thing about this topic, or you're trolling.
Where will you find the biggest management advantages in business?
You won't believe your eyes... Or your ears... Or anything else for that matter.
Because any way you look at it, one of the best places to build a management career is under the Golden Arches in a restaurant owned and operated by McDonald's Corporation or an independent McDonald's franchisee.
That's right, your neighborhood McDonald's. That billions and billions served "Did Somebody Say McDonald's?" McDonald's. Hard to believe? Keep reading.
A restaurant job with McDonald's Corporation or with one of our independent franchisees is one of the better kept management development secrets in the world. More than half of McDonald's Corporation executives and more than a third of McDonald's independent owner/operators started their careers in a McDonald's restaurant. What does that tell you about your chances to move up?
And that's just the beginning. McDonald's Corporation and McDonald's independent franchisees offer a world-renown management development program, including a chance to attend the college-accredited Hamburger University. A career path beginning in a company-owned or independently owned and operated McDonald's restaurant can take you as far as you want to go.
That's what restaurant jobs with McDonald's Corporation or an independent McDonald's franchisee are all about. You'll be encouraged to grow, learn and develop the broad-based skills you'll need to move up fast -- with McDonald's Corporation, an independent McDonald's franchisee, or almost any company in the world. Having such experience on your resume will open eyes, not to mention doors. It starts in a corporate-owned or independently owned and operated McDonald's restaurant. What comes next is up to you.
On the openssh.org site, I found a link at the bottom to Mr. Joode's side of the story. I think everyone should read it, it clears up some things. He seems like a pretty reasonable guy.. I think I'm going to have to side against the majority here and I don't think Mr. Joode has done anything wrong, if anything, Mr. Raadt is trying to stir up trouble with this malicious advisory, and is clearly in the wrong. Mr Joode's side of the story.
I don't know if this is a joke or not. It seems much like the kind of thing MS would really try to pull. It's really rather kind of astonishing when you consider the sheer number of linux boxes physically AT microsoft. I mean, a lot of their employees profess to screw around with linux.. no idea what they actually do with it, but how could they use anything UNIX-like for more than a day or two and not be familiar with links? (soft and hard).. Maybe their research department aren't the people experimenting with linux, eh? Maybe they should be, heh. I'm just waiting for the full fledged press releases claiming MS the brilliant innovator once again pushes the envelope by inventing symlinks and will be patenting and license the technology to those interested.
I can't mention a sign of the "industry" losing any money at all in the link that was posted. In fact, as far as I can tell, they're reporting growth in cd/dvd product sales from the previous year. To quote:
"According to the RIAA, manufacturers saw a 3.2 percent net unit increase in audio and video product shipped to domestic markets (from 1.12 billion units in 1998 to 1.16 billion units in 1999). The corresponding dollar value of those shipments at suggested list price increased 6.3 percent from $13.7 billion in 1998 to $14.6 billion last year. "
Here's another paragraph
"Despite the maturity of the format, in 1999 full-length CD shipments grew nearly 11 percent over the previous year. On the other hand, while shipments of CD singles remained flat at 56 million units, this was a significant improvement over 1998. Growth within the CD singles format is being driven by CD maxi singles, which increased from $35.7 million in 1998 to $65.3 million in 1999. Full-length CD unit shipments grew 10.8 percent from 847 million in 1998 to 939 million in 1999; full-length CD dollar value grew 12.3 percent from $11.4 billion in 1998 to $12.8 billion in 1999."
In fact, the subtitle of this article itself clearly states
"RIAA Reports Recorded Music Market Enjoyed Solid Growth In 1999 DVD Growth Explosive, CDs Solid, Cassettes And Music Videos In Decline"
So I ask you again, does anyone actually read these articles, or do people merely read what other people CLAIM the article says and their OPINIONS on it, and then start a discussion based on that? I mean, if slashdot has degraded that far, thats fine and I'll shut up, but I wasn't aware we had descended that far at this point in time.
While I can offer absolutely no insight into a feasible way to make this situation better, I agree that the biggest aggravation in package management isn't installation, it's management of already installed packages, including uninstallation. Now don't get me wrong, while the windows approach to this is 'easy', I by no means consider it good. Registry entries all over, failure to remove files, overwriting of system DLL's, etc. But I for one would be ecstatic if someone would figure out a better way to manage already installed packages.
Heh, imagine the fun we could have with exploits on this device, if it was real..
I think the point he was trying to make was...
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John can tend to be a little outspoken, but I think the point he was really trying to make here wasn't whether or not it was within WB's rights to show, or not show the episode, as it clearly is their choice whether or not to show it.. I think the real point is WHY they chose not to show it. They didn't show it, because they were covering their own ass.. in the aftermath of the school shootings, they chose to wait it out, and show the episode at a later date, not because they thought it might influence more kids to go out and commit these acts of violence, but simply because they didn't want to be in the spotlight for depicting such acts and being 'insensitive' or 'unfeeling' or whatever other nonsense they would have been labeled with.
It's a simple matter of trying to preserve their 'name' or 'reputation'. It was their choice to make. I feel they made the wrong one. In my eyes, all it proved was they care more about their reputation than they do about their fans.
I'd just like to add, that the trailers were hardly a big deal... but check out the VCD section of http://www.isonews.com . Several full telesync versions of Episode One were readily available to be downloaded, within a scant few days of the opening of the movie.
I think that really hammers home the point of just how futile it is to stop the spread of.. pretty much anything. If one person has access to it, and it's in demand.. there's just no way you're gonna stop it from getting out there.
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As I understand it, and I'm not claiming to be an authority or anything, the entire reason the phrase "GNU/Linux" sprang into being is that aside from the kernel, the majority of what constitutes the "operating system" for every linux distribution I'm aware of is made up of GNU components. If someone just shipped item A) from your above post, it would cease to be "GNU/Linux" and would be just "Linux". I don't see why this entire post degenerated into a discussion of who's trolling where, unless I'm utterly mistaken, it's pretty cut and dry that "Linux" is a kernel, whereas *BSD is an operating system. You can't obtain just a kernel of FreeBSD, NetBSD, or OpenBSD, and it would be fairly useless without the associated userland code. The source tree is intended to be used as a whole. With a Linux kernel, you can just update to the latest kernel with a minimum of fuss (Generally speaking, while it's not always perfect, but it's not bad at all, really). In any BSD OS I've used, upgrading the kernel independently of the base system can cause a plethora of problems as memory structures, devices and more can and do change. It is not meant to be used apart from the base system it was distributed with. This is all pretty cut and dry, I don't know why that chap above thought I was trolling, is this matter really open for debate? *BSD is distributed as a cohesive fully operational operating system. Linux is a kernel. Linux distributions ship as a fully operational operation system, generally composed of GNU tools. Is there any room for in there? - Kythorn Hawk: This isn't intended at you, but more as a general response to this thread.
Linux is just a kernel. *BSD is a fully functional operating system.
Did you even bother to read hit the link or view the press release, or were you just in a hurry to post a Catz-esque rant? I don't want to come across here as overly aggressive, but either you didn't bother to read a single thing about this topic, or you're trolling.
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Where will you find the biggest management advantages in business?
You won't believe your eyes... Or your ears... Or anything else for that matter.
Because any way you look at it, one of the best places to build a management career is under the Golden Arches in a restaurant owned and operated by McDonald's Corporation or an independent McDonald's franchisee.
That's right, your neighborhood McDonald's. That billions and billions served "Did Somebody Say McDonald's?" McDonald's. Hard to believe? Keep reading.
A restaurant job with McDonald's Corporation or with one of our independent franchisees is one of the better kept management development secrets in the world. More than half of McDonald's Corporation executives and more than a third of McDonald's independent owner/operators started their careers in a McDonald's restaurant. What does that tell you about your chances to move up?
And that's just the beginning. McDonald's Corporation and McDonald's independent franchisees offer a world-renown management development program, including a chance to attend the college-accredited Hamburger University. A career path beginning in a company-owned or independently owned and operated McDonald's restaurant can take you as far as you want to go.
That's what restaurant jobs with McDonald's Corporation or an independent McDonald's franchisee are all about. You'll be encouraged to grow, learn and develop the broad-based skills you'll need to move up fast -- with McDonald's Corporation, an independent McDonald's franchisee, or almost any company in the world. Having such experience on your resume will open eyes, not to mention doors. It starts in a corporate-owned or independently owned and operated McDonald's restaurant. What comes next is up to you.
What the hell are you smoking, and more importantly, where can I get some?
Welcome :)
All I see is yet another anonymous coward bitching someone who's actually trying to contribute something besides trolls and flames. Ha, imagine that.
On the openssh.org site, I found a link at the bottom to Mr. Joode's side of the story. I think everyone should read it, it clears up some things. He seems like a pretty reasonable guy.. I think I'm going to have to side against the majority here and I don't think Mr. Joode has done anything wrong, if anything, Mr. Raadt is trying to stir up trouble with this malicious advisory, and is clearly in the wrong. Mr Joode's side of the story.
I don't know if this is a joke or not. It seems much like the kind of thing MS would really try to pull. It's really rather kind of astonishing when you consider the sheer number of linux boxes physically AT microsoft. I mean, a lot of their employees profess to screw around with linux.. no idea what they actually do with it, but how could they use anything UNIX-like for more than a day or two and not be familiar with links? (soft and hard).. Maybe their research department aren't the people experimenting with linux, eh? Maybe they should be, heh. I'm just waiting for the full fledged press releases claiming MS the brilliant innovator once again pushes the envelope by inventing symlinks and will be patenting and license the technology to those interested.
Just how many american countries are there anyway?
I can't mention a sign of the "industry" losing any money at all in the link that was posted. In fact, as far as I can tell, they're reporting growth in cd/dvd product sales from the previous year. To quote:
"According to the RIAA, manufacturers saw a 3.2 percent net unit increase in audio and video product shipped to domestic markets (from 1.12 billion units in 1998 to 1.16 billion units in 1999). The corresponding dollar value of those shipments at suggested list price increased 6.3 percent from $13.7 billion in 1998 to $14.6 billion last year. "
Here's another paragraph
"Despite the maturity of the format, in 1999 full-length CD shipments grew nearly 11 percent over the previous year. On the other hand, while shipments of CD singles remained flat at 56 million units, this was a significant improvement over 1998. Growth within the CD singles format is being driven by CD maxi singles, which increased from $35.7 million in 1998 to $65.3 million in 1999. Full-length CD unit shipments grew 10.8 percent from 847 million in 1998 to 939 million in 1999; full-length CD dollar value grew 12.3 percent from $11.4 billion in 1998 to $12.8 billion in 1999."
In fact, the subtitle of this article itself clearly states
"RIAA Reports Recorded Music Market Enjoyed Solid Growth In 1999 DVD Growth Explosive, CDs Solid, Cassettes And Music Videos In Decline"
So I ask you again, does anyone actually read these articles, or do people merely read what other people CLAIM the article says and their OPINIONS on it, and then start a discussion based on that? I mean, if slashdot has degraded that far, thats fine and I'll shut up, but I wasn't aware we had descended that far at this point in time.
In the name of God, WHY? For the love of all that we hold sacred and holy, WHY?!?
I have got to believe the average's closer to 60,if not higher, from my own experiences, and those of the overwhelming majority people I know.
While I can offer absolutely no insight into a feasible way to make this situation better, I agree that the biggest aggravation in package management isn't installation, it's management of already installed packages, including uninstallation. Now don't get me wrong, while the windows approach to this is 'easy', I by no means consider it good. Registry entries all over, failure to remove files, overwriting of system DLL's, etc. But I for one would be ecstatic if someone would figure out a better way to manage already installed packages.
Heh, imagine the fun we could have with exploits on this device, if it was real..
John can tend to be a little outspoken, but I think the point he was really trying to make here wasn't whether or not it was within WB's rights to show, or not show the episode, as it clearly is their choice whether or not to show it.. I think the real point is WHY they chose not to show it. They didn't show it, because they were covering their own ass.. in the aftermath of the school shootings, they chose to wait it out, and show the episode at a later date, not because they thought it might influence more kids to go out and commit these acts of violence, but simply because they didn't want to be in the spotlight for depicting such acts and being 'insensitive' or 'unfeeling' or whatever other nonsense they would have been labeled with.
It's a simple matter of trying to preserve their 'name' or 'reputation'. It was their choice to make. I feel they made the wrong one. In my eyes, all it proved was they care more about their reputation than they do about their fans.
I'd just like to add, that the trailers were hardly a big deal... but check out the VCD section of http://www.isonews.com . Several full telesync versions of Episode One were readily available to be downloaded, within a scant few days of the opening of the movie.
I think that really hammers home the point of just how futile it is to stop the spread of.. pretty much anything. If one person has access to it, and it's in demand.. there's just no way you're gonna stop it from getting out there.
- Kythorn