I feel you Darinbob, he's being a dick. VM's are easy, but a native tool that IT could support would be easier still, i don't see why that knots up his jockeys.
I support Linux all day every day, but I run Windows machine because I don't have time to dick around getting all the company tools to work.
It's easier to run a remote Linux box that I can connect to use for linux stuff. A VM would need to hibernate properly and bogs down the junk laptop i get from my company.
There you go spouting crazy again. There's no way SS and Medicare will collapse. Medicaid might, in states with too much cronyism, it would be due to sabotage, like the ACA. These programs will only expand. The GOP will do their best to insure they expand and are managed in the worst possible way, maybe a third party or GOP splinter will team up with the Dems to fix things. It works in the rest of the world, it will work here.
In particular, it means cutting spending on Medicare/Medicaid from over $10000/person to below $4000/person before then expanding those systems to the entire country
You realize that Medicare only covers old people and severely disabled, that accounts for the high costs. Like I've explained before, we are paying for everything in the most inefficient manner. A single payer pool would include healthy people who would drive those numbers down. Medicaid only covers the poor and again, sick people, disabled people, pregnant people, and elderly people. It spends an average of $6k per person, which again, is high due to the people being covered.
Sebastion, The US System is not government run, it's government regulated, for now. Both links you included, don't show what you are claiming. The medicaid expansion you reference did not statistically improve the health of relatively healthy people, big surprise. It did give them better financial and mental health outcomes. I wouldn't call that a failure. The VA link, talks about the recent problems, but it also included information about the lack of VA funding. The VA's patient load increased way faster then funding. Poor outcomes are not surprising. Veteran's love the VA, they just want it funded properly so it provides the services they were promised. It's certainly the least expensive way to provide those services. Here's a link for you.
You can see that American's have less doctor visits, they spend more without getting better treatment. What is to like about the pre-ACA system? How did the ACA do anything to make this worse? It's clearly an attempt at improving multiple things and in a perfect world it would have been fixed over the next few years instead of being symbolically repealed about 176 times to pander to a misinformed base.
All incentives aren't monetary, that's what breaks the pretend capitalistic system we are told we have. How do you think competition could realistically happen?
You know you have that backwards, the government run parts of the system are the only ones that work. The private insurance industry and hospital system milk each end and we're stuck in the middle. I definitely think tying insurance to employment is a major problem, and some sort of public option is the only long term solution. Why does this work for every other industrialized nation, but it won't work in the US? Are we too stupid, is that what you really think?
I was not happy with the ACA, but lack of Republican votes speaks more to the dysfunctional Republicans and their Obama hatred (for whatever reason). The ACA was the best thing to happen for one and only one reason. It made something happen in healthcare. It made changes that could be evaluated and fixed. The very fact that it hasn't been fixed shows how necessary that was and is. Things can't get better without change and every administration before Obama's basically gave up on healthcare as anything but a talking point.
The ACA scheme was a poor compromise mostly lifted from conservatives. It's not what "the Dems" want, it's what they had the political capital to pass.
It's nice to hear someone still stuck in the righteous anger of why don't I have what you have or why do you deserve that instead of solving problems like where are families with kids going to live. Just reminds me why I'm trying to get out of the red state I live in.
It's easy for a white collar programmer who probably lives in an urban area with higher life expectancy to say "raise the wage". What about the blue collar workers who are struggling to make it to retirement, the lower working-class whose bodies are falling apart? Many of them already die before or shortly after retiring.
The problem is that the disaster riders were more like mini-disaster riders. People either didn't use them, or they hit the cap as soon as they tried to use them, so either way they were useless. Banning those was definitely something Obamacare got right.
I've been waiting for, and it's just now starting, doctors to notice that they can't count on getting paid from seeing a patient with insurance. The high deductible polices masquerade as decent coverage when presented to the doctor. Then the doctor ends up eating the bill because it's part of the patients deductible and they can't afford it.
If high deductible plans stick around, we will be back to paying for services before they are rendered, mark my words.
We're already paying for it, these people end up on "disability". People who have the basics met, will strive for more. Those other arguments are evil, meant to confuse and birth control for poors?! High taxes stifling?! Please, let people live and they will thrive.
Progressive do have the answer, it's called a Social Safety net. An adequate one, or maybe UBI, will people who don't want to work to get out of the way. People who want to work can have the firm foundation necessary to take risks and start their own business or freelance without worrying about starving.
Is it better to make some 57 year old coal miner take classes for a couple years and compete with a fresh out of college 22 year old when he turns 59, or should we just let them retire early? Maybe we should force them to ruin themselves so they qualify for disability instead of offering a reasonable sort of welfare. (that is the current practice)
Are not, but definitely were... June 2, 1924 is the date Native Americans were granted US citizenship, not that long ago. Voting rights, governed by states, were denied to some Native Americans until 1957. Steve Harvey was born in 1957.
You sound a lot like Sebastian Gorka. Wall of citations that don't actually say what your claiming they say, attempts to put me on the defensive by accusations of name calling and prejudice, loosely correlated personal stories that you didn't actually experience.
I can play too. My Grandfather fled Mexico to avoid being swept up in a minor revolution. He worked all his life as a migrant worker and took advantage of the social safety net to let his children do better. He never spoke English, but public schooling allowed his children to integrate.
The thing that people who advocate for onerous taxation never acknowledge is than when you tax too heavily, you incentivize this kind of behavior.
You mispelled "any", let's not pretend that lower taxes are going to magically prevent people from "keeping what I earned" no matter how misguided they are.
It's clear your operating in some sort of reality distortion field. That's fine, but don't try to pretend you understand anything. Looks like Slashdot will have to shut this thread down, because every comment I make prevents you from commenting one other place to spread your disinformation. You've listed one information source you find dear, pray tell who other then Sowell you've listened to or read? What is the last book you read? I'll start:
conservative voices I listen to:
Dave Ramsey
My priest
My Mother
WIBC Greg Garrison
Chicks on the Right
Rush Limbough (early Rush)
I read Fox News, but avoid watching it.
All of these people say alot of things that are just wrong, but they illustrate the talking points that are circulating. I also read plenty of online discussions and live in a conservative area, so I know what's going on. Your points are clearly conservative FUD, they are designed to undermine, not help in any way. You think I'm someone who doesn't understand your methods.
I also listen to plenty of "progressive voices" and read information from a progressive viewpoint, although there is no overarching progressive voice, like Fox News.
Yeah, all that sweet welfare money keeps American's from working... Bullshit. There is no welfare money, social programs are threadbare and everyone on them works. They just don't have transportation to the fields and can't afford to do seasonal work at ta price that competes with the illegal labor lured into the country by greedy "job creators".
Yeah, kids can still pick, farmers don't pay enough, it's temporary work, and there is often a language barrier when people try to learn from the existing pickers. All valid concerns. minimum wage too high, too much gov. regulations.. Both bullshit.
I feel you Darinbob, he's being a dick. VM's are easy, but a native tool that IT could support would be easier still, i don't see why that knots up his jockeys.
I support Linux all day every day, but I run Windows machine because I don't have time to dick around getting all the company tools to work.
It's easier to run a remote Linux box that I can connect to use for linux stuff. A VM would need to hibernate properly and bogs down the junk laptop i get from my company.
There you go spouting crazy again. There's no way SS and Medicare will collapse. Medicaid might, in states with too much cronyism, it would be due to sabotage, like the ACA.
These programs will only expand. The GOP will do their best to insure they expand and are managed in the worst possible way, maybe a third party or GOP splinter will team up with the Dems to fix things. It works in the rest of the world, it will work here.
So, if this is the case there is no hope until our electoral system is fixed. Mandatory voting is the only way forward.
In particular, it means cutting spending on Medicare/Medicaid from over $10000/person to below $4000/person before then expanding those systems to the entire country
You realize that Medicare only covers old people and severely disabled, that accounts for the high costs. Like I've explained before, we are paying for everything in the most inefficient manner. A single payer pool would include healthy people who would drive those numbers down. Medicaid only covers the poor and again, sick people, disabled people, pregnant people, and elderly people. It spends an average of $6k per person, which again, is high due to the people being covered.
Sebastion,
The US System is not government run, it's government regulated, for now. Both links you included, don't show what you are claiming.
The medicaid expansion you reference did not statistically improve the health of relatively healthy people, big surprise. It did give them better financial and mental health outcomes. I wouldn't call that a failure.
The VA link, talks about the recent problems, but it also included information about the lack of VA funding. The VA's patient load increased way faster then funding. Poor outcomes are not surprising. Veteran's love the VA, they just want it funded properly so it provides the services they were promised. It's certainly the least expensive way to provide those services.
Here's a link for you.
You can see that American's have less doctor visits, they spend more without getting better treatment. What is to like about the pre-ACA system? How did the ACA do anything to make this worse? It's clearly an attempt at improving multiple things and in a perfect world it would have been fixed over the next few years instead of being symbolically repealed about 176 times to pander to a misinformed base.
All incentives aren't monetary, that's what breaks the pretend capitalistic system we are told we have.
How do you think competition could realistically happen?
You know you have that backwards, the government run parts of the system are the only ones that work. The private insurance industry and hospital system milk each end and we're stuck in the middle.
I definitely think tying insurance to employment is a major problem, and some sort of public option is the only long term solution.
Why does this work for every other industrialized nation, but it won't work in the US? Are we too stupid, is that what you really think?
I was not happy with the ACA, but lack of Republican votes speaks more to the dysfunctional Republicans and their Obama hatred (for whatever reason).
The ACA was the best thing to happen for one and only one reason. It made something happen in healthcare. It made changes that could be evaluated and fixed. The very fact that it hasn't been fixed shows how necessary that was and is. Things can't get better without change and every administration before Obama's basically gave up on healthcare as anything but a talking point.
Do you hate poor people, or just black people? Poor people are victimized a much higher rates then wealthy. They should love cops, I wonder why they don't?
Well, to be fair, they are exploited as slowly as possible, because their time is worthless and it's the one thing they can invest.
The ACA scheme was a poor compromise mostly lifted from conservatives. It's not what "the Dems" want, it's what they had the political capital to pass.
and again, the goalposts move...
For a family of 4.
It's nice to hear someone still stuck in the righteous anger of why don't I have what you have or why do you deserve that instead of solving problems like where are families with kids going to live.
Just reminds me why I'm trying to get out of the red state I live in.
All those midwest hundredairs are jealous you can make it work, keep up the good fight.
It's easy for a white collar programmer who probably lives in an urban area with higher life expectancy to say "raise the wage".
What about the blue collar workers who are struggling to make it to retirement, the lower working-class whose bodies are falling apart? Many of them already die before or shortly after retiring.
The problem is that the disaster riders were more like mini-disaster riders. People either didn't use them, or they hit the cap as soon as they tried to use them, so either way they were useless.
Banning those was definitely something Obamacare got right.
I've been waiting for, and it's just now starting, doctors to notice that they can't count on getting paid from seeing a patient with insurance. The high deductible polices masquerade as decent coverage when presented to the doctor. Then the doctor ends up eating the bill because it's part of the patients deductible and they can't afford it.
If high deductible plans stick around, we will be back to paying for services before they are rendered, mark my words.
We're already paying for it, these people end up on "disability". People who have the basics met, will strive for more.
Those other arguments are evil, meant to confuse and birth control for poors?! High taxes stifling?! Please, let people live and they will thrive.
Progressive do have the answer, it's called a Social Safety net. An adequate one, or maybe UBI, will people who don't want to work to get out of the way. People who want to work can have the firm foundation necessary to take risks and start their own business or freelance without worrying about starving.
Is it better to make some 57 year old coal miner take classes for a couple years and compete with a fresh out of college 22 year old when he turns 59, or should we just let them retire early? Maybe we should force them to ruin themselves so they qualify for disability instead of offering a reasonable sort of welfare. (that is the current practice)
Are not, but definitely were...
June 2, 1924 is the date Native Americans were granted US citizenship, not that long ago. Voting rights, governed by states, were denied to some Native Americans until 1957. Steve Harvey was born in 1957.
You sound a lot like Sebastian Gorka. Wall of citations that don't actually say what your claiming they say, attempts to put me on the defensive by accusations of name calling and prejudice, loosely correlated personal stories that you didn't actually experience.
I can play too.
My Grandfather fled Mexico to avoid being swept up in a minor revolution. He worked all his life as a migrant worker and took advantage of the social safety net to let his children do better. He never spoke English, but public schooling allowed his children to integrate.
The thing that people who advocate for onerous taxation never acknowledge is than when you tax too heavily, you incentivize this kind of behavior.
You mispelled "any", let's not pretend that lower taxes are going to magically prevent people from "keeping what I earned" no matter how misguided they are.
It's clear your operating in some sort of reality distortion field. That's fine, but don't try to pretend you understand anything. Looks like Slashdot will have to shut this thread down, because every comment I make prevents you from commenting one other place to spread your disinformation. You've listed one information source you find dear, pray tell who other then Sowell you've listened to or read? What is the last book you read? I'll start:
conservative voices I listen to:
Dave Ramsey
My priest
My Mother WIBC Greg Garrison
Chicks on the Right
Rush Limbough (early Rush)
I read Fox News, but avoid watching it.
All of these people say alot of things that are just wrong, but they illustrate the talking points that are circulating. I also read plenty of online discussions and live in a conservative area, so I know what's going on. Your points are clearly conservative FUD, they are designed to undermine, not help in any way. You think I'm someone who doesn't understand your methods.
I also listen to plenty of "progressive voices" and read information from a progressive viewpoint, although there is no overarching progressive voice, like Fox News.
Yeah, all that sweet welfare money keeps American's from working... Bullshit. There is no welfare money, social programs are threadbare and everyone on them works. They just don't have transportation to the fields and can't afford to do seasonal work at ta price that competes with the illegal labor lured into the country by greedy "job creators".
Yeah, kids can still pick, farmers don't pay enough, it's temporary work, and there is often a language barrier when people try to learn from the existing pickers.
All valid concerns. minimum wage too high, too much gov. regulations.. Both bullshit.