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It's a major design flaw. It was made even worse when (allegedly) Guido said that if he were going to do it over again he'd require spaces instead of tabs. Because everyone agrees on how many spaces looks good, right?
And it's fun to count columns to figure out where the "if" block ends, right?
Also, while we're at it, any language with an "unless" statement is deeply flawed.
That's because local government is small enough to be manageable. State governments probably aren't, and the federal government, well, just look at it.
As a counter-example, look what happened to Utopia here in Utah. They spent gobs and gobs of money, and will be in debt forever, and for those very few who can get it, it works, but for most people, nothing.
Also, look what happened to Provo. Their FttH project failed so badly they ended up keeping the tens of millions in debt and handing everything over to Google to get it working.
I want to live where you do. In my area, Comcast raises prices every year or so, just because. Hell, after three years, I ended up with a 15mbps/3mpbs plan that THEY DON'T EVEN OFFER ANYMORE, and was paying $79/mo for the privilege. New customers, even without the new-customer discount, would get 20mpbs/5mpbs for $69/mo. Would they give it to me? No, but they would upgrade me to some shitty TV service for an extra $10/month.
I switched to Centurylink (DSL, used to be Qwest) and now I get 40mbps/7mpbs for $44.95/mo for a year. We'll see where I go from there when that ends.
So wait, let me get this straight, we Americans already spend more per capita than other developed nations on healthcare to no positive effect, and you propose as a solution to our problems moving some money from the military to health care?
To assume that one or another tool is better for me without understanding my problem is foolish. In my particular case, I only HAVE transactional data, and this data is life-critical, as in, people may die if a transaction fails to be written to disk.
"No-SQL" (in its common meaning, i.e. non-fully-ACID document stores) is not appropriate for my problem, and I would guess that you would agree.
So, I lived in West Africa for a couple years. Having lived there, I can speak from experience. The locals there know exactly what medication they need for malaria. They're very clear on the causes, symptoms, and results. They use mosquito nets. A net only gets you so far, however. I know, I got it. I spent several days in a hospital.
It's funny that those on the left think that both parties are right-wing, and those on the right think both parties are left-wing. Does that mean the parties are actually centrist?
What you and everyone else is missing (possible Billy G too) is that all of these problems he's trying to address is caused by dictatorships, despots and other forms of corruption and tyranny.
The mosquitoes and P. falciparum will be happy to hear that. They've been demonized for so long, unjustly, as it turns out.
Yeah but compare it to C# and.net. And Java libraries and tools are mostly open-source. I think you'll find it has libraries for almost any kind of interaction with other languages and they're often trivial to find. I feel dirty defending java, but i'm pretty confident it's actually the best tool for developing business apps in large-ish IT departments, all things considered.
Compare what? C# makes it quite easy to call out to native code. Anything with a C api is most likely going to be easy to work with.
Oh, and with IKVM, anything Java is also.NET. It's mind-blowingly awesome.
What matters is reality, not the behaviour we would expect of perfect rational actors.
raymorris claimed
One of the safest places in the world is a gun range, because you don't start a fight knowing that everyone is armed
but this claim was unsubstanciated, and the fact is the murder at the shooting range did happen.
The fact that a murder happened at a range doesn't refute the claim that "one of the safest places in the world is a gun range" in the least. You might have noticed that murders occasionally happen *NOT* at a gun range as well...
My point was, that guy was obviously mentally unhinged, and what happened at that range could have (would have?) happened anywhere. Obviously, a rational person would consider that a range is more likely than elsewhere to have a high concentration of people prepared, able, and willing to defend themselves and others.
Um, you know this equipment doesn't run on 110VAC, right? Undervolt doesn't apply until you get to levels so low that nothing else in your house is working.
It's a major design flaw. It was made even worse when (allegedly) Guido said that if he were going to do it over again he'd require spaces instead of tabs. Because everyone agrees on how many spaces looks good, right?
And it's fun to count columns to figure out where the "if" block ends, right?
Also, while we're at it, any language with an "unless" statement is deeply flawed.
That's because local government is small enough to be manageable. State governments probably aren't, and the federal government, well, just look at it.
As a counter-example, look what happened to Utopia here in Utah. They spent gobs and gobs of money, and will be in debt forever, and for those very few who can get it, it works, but for most people, nothing.
Also, look what happened to Provo. Their FttH project failed so badly they ended up keeping the tens of millions in debt and handing everything over to Google to get it working.
Muni isn't a guarantee of success.
I want to live where you do. In my area, Comcast raises prices every year or so, just because. Hell, after three years, I ended up with a 15mbps/3mpbs plan that THEY DON'T EVEN OFFER ANYMORE, and was paying $79/mo for the privilege. New customers, even without the new-customer discount, would get 20mpbs/5mpbs for $69/mo. Would they give it to me? No, but they would upgrade me to some shitty TV service for an extra $10/month.
I switched to Centurylink (DSL, used to be Qwest) and now I get 40mbps/7mpbs for $44.95/mo for a year. We'll see where I go from there when that ends.
And instead take up...?
So wait, let me get this straight, we Americans already spend more per capita than other developed nations on healthcare to no positive effect, and you propose as a solution to our problems moving some money from the military to health care?
Missed the point, didn't we?
Fair enough. Here's the argument, sans sarcasm:
To assume that one or another tool is better for me without understanding my problem is foolish. In my particular case, I only HAVE transactional data, and this data is life-critical, as in, people may die if a transaction fails to be written to disk.
"No-SQL" (in its common meaning, i.e. non-fully-ACID document stores) is not appropriate for my problem, and I would guess that you would agree.
Right, like I said, MongoDB is web-scale. You need web-scale. It has more GBs. You want the white one, with the wifis.
Wait, you don't like Postgres because of syntax oddities, but you do like MySQL? Huh.
MongoDB is web-scale, after all.
Just the one guy handing out his dwolla affiliate referral link. I thought those went out of style?
I believe the three are separate entities, what does that make me?
Just because some jackass coined a stupid word a couple thousand years ago to describe how he believed doesn't mean everyone thinks that way.
So, I lived in West Africa for a couple years. Having lived there, I can speak from experience. The locals there know exactly what medication they need for malaria. They're very clear on the causes, symptoms, and results. They use mosquito nets. A net only gets you so far, however. I know, I got it. I spent several days in a hospital.
Trust me, WebMD is not what they need.
It's funny that those on the left think that both parties are right-wing, and those on the right think both parties are left-wing. Does that mean the parties are actually centrist?
What you and everyone else is missing (possible Billy G too) is that all of these problems he's trying to address is caused by dictatorships, despots and other forms of corruption and tyranny.
The mosquitoes and P. falciparum will be happy to hear that. They've been demonized for so long, unjustly, as it turns out.
Yeah but compare it to C# and .net. And Java libraries and tools are mostly open-source. I think you'll find it has libraries for almost any kind of interaction with other languages and they're often trivial to find. I feel dirty defending java, but i'm pretty confident it's actually the best tool for developing business apps in large-ish IT departments, all things considered.
Compare what? C# makes it quite easy to call out to native code. Anything with a C api is most likely going to be easy to work with.
Oh, and with IKVM, anything Java is also .NET. It's mind-blowingly awesome.
stuck in a tarpit where stuff is bogged down
A tarpit called Oracle?
What matters is reality, not the behaviour we would expect of perfect rational actors.
raymorris claimed
One of the safest places in the world is a gun range, because you don't start a fight knowing that everyone is armed
but this claim was unsubstanciated, and the fact is the murder at the shooting range did happen.
The fact that a murder happened at a range doesn't refute the claim that "one of the safest places in the world is a gun range" in the least. You might have noticed that murders occasionally happen *NOT* at a gun range as well...
So, in your opinion, in VB6, where one has to MANUALLY ensure there are no circular references, there is no garbage collection? Interesting.
My point was, that guy was obviously mentally unhinged, and what happened at that range could have (would have?) happened anywhere. Obviously, a rational person would consider that a range is more likely than elsewhere to have a high concentration of people prepared, able, and willing to defend themselves and others.
Kind of like how you need to worry about eliminating references in pure reference-counting garbage collectors?
Uh, yeah, that wasn't exactly an alleyway mugging gone wrong...
So does malloc()/free()...
There's more than one way to debounce a switch. You described one, GP described another.
Um, you know this equipment doesn't run on 110VAC, right? Undervolt doesn't apply until you get to levels so low that nothing else in your house is working.