A slightly improved version would be to use a short dummy message with a magic header, rather than the spam message itself. Address it the same as the spam and send it through the open relay. If you detect the magic header on a piece of incoming mail, delete the message and blacklist the relay.
Doesn't it slow things down, that instead of having to get X amount of memory to get a program running, twice that has to be grabbed just to run code... negating by half the advances in memory bus technology we've gained lately?
Just because a 64 bit processor can handle 64 bit integers doesn't mean that it can *only* deal with 64 bit quantities or that its instructions are necessarily 64 bits long.
As an example, take PPC-64. Its instructions are still 32 bits long and are basically identical to PPC-32 except for those instructions dealing with 64 bit quantities, which PPC-32 doesn't have. All pointers (memory addresses) are 64 bit but you may use any size integer you wish, from 8 bit to 64 bit, depending on what you need.
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Ok, so if our personalities were more influenced by Genes, then why aren't all Australians violent people that steal, rape and kill?
Maybe because most Australians are here as a result of immigration not transportation? And those who were transported to Australia as convicts were typically just very poor people who committed a minor crime. They didn't fit in the prisons and their crimes were too minor to be hanged for, so they were sent here.
Maybe because "factual truths" don't exist in science and "theories and statistics" are the best that can be done? Having to constantly prepend "According to the Big Bang theory" to the start of every sentence gets a bit tiresome.
Have you considered that people bite your head off because you question theories that you don't understand? And how exactly are you questioning these theories? Simply saying that you don't buy it doesn't count. Are you capable of arguing your claim against the big bang with reason and evidence or do you just "not like" the theory?
Incorrect. Although device drivers are IOKit-based, the VFS layer of darwin (filesystems) is almost straight FreeBSD. There are problems with the fact that Darwin's locking is different and probably VM issues. You definitely can't just take a FreeBSD filesystem and throw it into Mac OS X but it would only be a porting effort, not a rewrite.
I didn't experience *any* of the crap you guys are talking about. Stuff like that just isn't tolerated by the staff here in Australia. I can only assume that you are exaggerating or that the US is seriously fucked up. I'm a Geek and people knew it. I hung out with normal people, even though I didn't have any classes with most of them. I wasn't what you would call popular but I didn't really try to be. Hell, as long as you didn't make too many chemistry jokes around people who didn't take it, you were fine. If you actively bored people, you might end up pretty lonely but that was the worst that would happen and that would be your fault. Some socially inept nerds didn't understand this. They never understood that not everyone shared their interests. And frankly, they weren't particularly smart either. They were gamers rather than programmers, if you know what I mean.
I don't need *tabs* but I really need some way of opening pages in the background. I don't like having to wait there watching a blank page while my shitty modem sucks it down one byte at a time. Whether this is "load in background tab", OmniWeb's "open link behind this window" or some new Apple idea, I don't care, but it has to be one of them. I'm getting really sick of opening a link in a window in front and then bringing the previous window to the foreground while I wait for the page to load. This is literally the only major thing that is bothering me about Safari. Spell checking was the only other thing tying me to OmniWeb.
Ah, no. According to current theory, asking what was happening before the big bang is like asking what is north of the north pole (Hawking quote IIRC). The big bang was the creation of time. How can anything exist before the big bang? The whole idea of "before the big bang" doesn't even make sense.
It still isn't pipelining. It may be badly implemented persistant connections but i can't see how it could be pipelining. I agree completely with your analysis but you can't deny that the parent was just karma whoring. My main objection was that keep-alive != pipelining and that the parent just cut and pasted from somewhere else.
I have my doubts about this too but the idea was that IE is *reusing* a connection, ie. you have to have accessed the site in the recent past. You'd have to wait for the keep-alive timeout to pass first of course. Try again but this time, access the same server again after about 30 seconds (assuming keep-alive timeout is 15 secs). Probably helpful to try an IIS server as well as yahoo.
How many of you fucking idiots are going to keep posting the same bullshit?
Read some of the other comments, especially the ones in response to other comments like yours.
Whether or not this is true, it is *not* HTTP pipelining, keep-alive or any other *HTTP* level method of persistent connections. When the server times out and closes the connection, IE doesn't do the same. If it needs the same site again it just sends the request on its still open socket. If the server is IIS, it will reopen it's side (somehow) and return the requested page, instead of sending a reset like it should. I don't know if IE and IIS actually do this or not but *that* was what the article was talking about. It's a TCP level hack.
If you're going to whore, at least make sure it is relevant.
You think you are isolated?! We are stuck on an island continent! We are a country of 19 million people with an entire continent to ourselves! Adding to that is the aridness of central Australia. Our cities hug the rim of Australia and you can drive for a day and not see any signs of civilisation. On top of that, we are located in Asia. New Zealand is the only European style country for 10s of thousands of kilometres (read: 10+ hours on a plane). At least you have Canada, although as you say you forget about them.
There is a simple reason why you haven't seen many good Australian TV shows: there aren't any! Practically all of the TV we see is either American or British. We do make a lot of soap opera and drama, and we export them to many countries but personally, I think they are crap.
Movies OTOH, we do. Star Wars, the Matrix, Mission Impossible, etc were all made in Sydney. The main actors may have been mostly American but everyone else working on the films were Aussies. LOTR was made in New Zealand but we are pretty much the same country. We joke about each other but New Zealand has to be the country we are closest to culturally.
I wouldn't worry about us losing our accent. It isn't pride. We are schooled in an Australian accent and no amount of TV really changes that. One thing to note is that most ads are in Australian accents, even foreign companies like McDonalds. America might be homogenising because of how easy it is to travel from one side of the country to the other. You are probably intermixing a lot. The same thing happens inside Australia but I think our accent is pretty safe from American influence. Our culture however *is* being assimilated. Frankly, I don't care. I like how it's worked out so far. We have most of the good of America with only a little of the bad (read: no Australian DMCA and there probably never will be one). If it ever becomes possible to get from America to Australia in under 2 hours, and the passport stuff is softened, then our accent may be in trouble.
I apologise for the Texas stereotype. It is probably because they are usually portrayed as stupid rednecks in movies. I know it isn't really true. G.W. Bush make this harder to acknowledge however:-).
I don't particularly mind gender in languages, as long as it is done properly (read: not German!). I'm a mix of Irish and Italian blood (only in Australia or America, eh?) and I quite like Italian as a language. Italian children are not taught spelling because the only exceptions to the very simple rules are the words that kids learn first. Words are spelled phonetically. If you see an "a", it only represents one sound.
Hmmm... if you reply, you should probably do it by email. This thread was once about the DMCA! It's off the front page now though.
I pretty much agree with your wife (where's she from?). For me, "our" is somewhere in between "hour" and "ow".
An American saying "are" in place of "our" is pretty unnoticeable. When it is written though, it annoys me because I read posts in *my* inner voice, which naturally has an Australian accent. I don't really care that much though.
In common usage here inquire/enquire is replaced with the word "ask" and ensure with "make sure" ("I want to ensure..." = "I want to make sure..."). Insure is still used when talking about insurance. Better educated Australians may disagree with me however.
English blows chunks and I pity anyone who must learn it as a second language but I'm glad my language is becoming the dominate one.:)
Your last line puzzles me. What is a British accent? Even Australian accents differ. Any area that is sufficiently isolated for a significant period of time will develop its own accent. Unlike America, Australia was settled from the sea. There wasn't an overland drive westward like there was in America. Roads linking our capital cities took a long time to build. When you are an isolated town, sandwiched between the desert and the sea, and the only communication is text-only mail via ship, your pronunciations are going to drift.
Personally, my favourite accent is Canadian - minus the aboot of course. I have never heard a Canadian say aboot that noticeably though. Least favourite would have to be deep southern American rancher - you know, the kind that shoots Mexicans on sight. I think there is something about our accent that makes people think we are all horse riding, crocodile fighting yahoos. Lets face it, we don't exactly sound like intellectuals;-)
Wow, this has to take some kind of record for off-topicness. Better drop my +1.
"Our" is pronounced like "owl" without the "L". "Are" is pronounced like "car" but without the "C". OK, that may or may not make it more clear. You pronounce both as the later, right?
What is the reason for inflammable? I wouldn't have a clue.
While I sort of like American English for removing some of the stupidities of English (Queue anyone?), I prefer colour to color. It seems more... colourful!
BTW, inquire/enquire and insure/ensure are pronounced like you'd think they would be: inquire sounds like the word "in" and enquire sounds like the start of the word "enter". That doesn't mean that I can tell which one to use in a given situation or that I can tell when someone else gets it wrong however.
You got it exactly right, except more so. It has been said that NeXT bought Apple for a negative amount of money. Steve Jobs was the CEO of NeXT. How often is the CEO of the bought company made CEO of the buyer? Mac OS X is the next version of OpenStep, with a lot of Mac stuff thrown in to keep us happy. It is not a complete rewrite and NeXT used Mach because it seemed like a good idea at the time. There is nothing fundamentally wrong with Apple's code as it stands. They worked around pretty much all of Mach's problems. It is important to realise that Apple used Mach's code, not its philosophy. You won't find a microkernel in OS X, ignore what Apple marketing tells you. Having said that, I see Darwin getting closer to FreeBSD as time goes on, mainly because Mach is a dead project.
What amuse me are the words that vary not in sound but by a letter, which sticklers nonetheless insist are entirely different -- farther/further, inquire/enquire, insure/ensure, potato/potatoe (heh-heh -- just kidding -- I wouldn't have let that one go!)
Maybe those words sound the same in your accent but they sound different (to varying degrees) in an Australian accent (father vs. ferther) and I'd guess in an English accent as well. Pet peeve: Americans who think "our" and "are" are the same word. These sound completely different in a non-American accent and when you read someone else's post in your head it sounds very wrong.
Does Freshmeat accept application entries for Macintosh programs that do not use any Unix APIs, do not run on any Unix system other than the Mac, and do not follow a Unix style of user interface? If so, how does this qualify as 'Unix software'?
If it runs on a Unix machine it is Unix software. An XWindows program will not run on a Unix that doesn't not have an X Server installed. What about a Gnome app on a KDE only Linux workstation? You can't judge Unixness based on what APIs it supports. Gnome apps are no more unix than Carbon apps are.
Open Source != Unix. Just because the carbon API hasn't been ported to Linux doesn't make Carbon apps any less "Unix" than say a Qt app. The real problem with your line of thinking is that there isn't a standard UNIX API when it comes to GUIs. "Unix applications" don't exist. OpenStep apps exist, Gnome apps exist, Motif apps exist, etc.
BTW, how is having a Mac-only app on Freshmeat any worse than something Linux only, such as a kernel module? Does a bit of software have to run on every single Unix distro out there before it is accepted? There is plenty of unportable, Linux-only (sometimes Linux-x86 only!) software out there. A lot of it is on Freshmeat.
Apple stuff - IOKit (device drivers), lots of glue and general modifications.
You can't just take out Mach and expect it to still work. You wouldn't have any Virtual Memory! However, you could write another scheduler etc, and apple probably will at some point. The Mach and BSD sections of XNU should not be considered separate. BSD processes *are* Mach tasks, they just have a bit more semantics. Apple's insistence on saying "Mach" all the time is pure marketing. Forget it is there.
Apple tries to keep the BSD stuff synced
with FreeBSD as much as possible and makes lots of modifications to everything. XNU is no more a microkernel than Linux is. They both use modules (called Kernel Extensions in Darwin) but are pretty monolithic.
[ibook:~] peter% gcc -v
Reading specs from/usr/libexec/gcc/darwin/ppc/3.1/specs
Thread model: posix
Apple Computer, Inc. GCC version 1161, based on gcc version 3.1 20020420 (prerelease)
[ibook:~] peter% bison -V
GNU Bison version 1.28
[ibook:~] peter% ssh workg4
Last login: Tue Dec 24 22:57:58 2002 from ****
Welcome to Darwin!
[workg4:~] peter%
I did have XFree86 installed but I realised that I didn't need it and it was just taking up space on my drive. However, if you had the slightest hint of a clue you would know that XFree86 compiles on OS X from the same source tree as Linux. OS X doesn't come bundled with XFree86 but who gives a shit about that? Are you implying that PicoBSD isn't Unix?
BTW, GNU stands for GNU's Not Unix! The presence or absence of GNU tools (such as bison) does not make or break a Unix. Nor does the lack of an XWindow system.
This same stupid, pedantic, ill-informed point was argued to death on Mac forums a year or more ago. ("A: Is this a Unix application? B: No, idiot, it's a Carbon app. Only Cocoa apps are Unix! C: I'm pretty sure it has to run in the Dos terminal to be Unix").
The point is: Who really gives a shit? You do realise that technically Linux isn't a unix either? Here's my definition of a Unix:/dev exists. Probably also the idea of mount points instead of drive letters or a 'Desktop'. (Before you use this as proof that Mac OS X isn't unix, please realise that disk mounting on the desktop is GUI only. Disks are mounted under/Volumes, which is practically identical to/mnt except that it is more automatic.)
No it isn't and it hasn't been in years. All new world macs (iMacs and above) only have OpenFirmware in their ROMs. OpenFirmware may be a bit more sophisticated than a traditional PC BIOS but it certainly doesn't contain the GUI. OS 9 (which needs the Toolbox code in ROM) uses a trick: It loads a file called Mac OS ROM from the hard disk and uses it instead.
Even on old world machines (beige G3 etc) Mac OS X ignores the GUI code in the ROM as it is a completely different architecture (QuickDraw rather than Quartz) and it would be pretty impossible to use from a Unix environment anyway.
Logging in as >console drops you into a text console. No GUI. Is that so hard for you to believe? If you hold down command+v, Mac OS X will boot in verbose mode ie. it dumps pages of text to the console just like linux does. Command+s will boot you into single user mode, which is sh with nothing else running and / mounted as read only.
Here's a trick: install XFree86, login as >cosnole, run startx. No Apple GUI code in sight. Hell, if you had half a clue you'd know that Apple releases Darwin free without Quartz et al. The console is all you have unless you install XFree86.
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It'll save your bandwidth. Spam can be big.
Relax, IPv6 uses LOCs/second. We should be safe for a while.
Three is still symmetrical, as long as the third one is in the middle. If two are on one side then it isn't.
They posted as AC so they get no karma. What are you talking about?
Only if you roll your own capacitors.
Just because a 64 bit processor can handle 64 bit integers doesn't mean that it can *only* deal with 64 bit quantities or that its instructions are necessarily 64 bits long.
As an example, take PPC-64. Its instructions are still 32 bits long and are basically identical to PPC-32 except for those instructions dealing with 64 bit quantities, which PPC-32 doesn't have. All pointers (memory addresses) are 64 bit but you may use any size integer you wish, from 8 bit to 64 bit, depending on what you need.
Maybe because most Australians are here as a result of immigration not transportation? And those who were transported to Australia as convicts were typically just very poor people who committed a minor crime. They didn't fit in the prisons and their crimes were too minor to be hanged for, so they were sent here.
Have you considered that people bite your head off because you question theories that you don't understand? And how exactly are you questioning these theories? Simply saying that you don't buy it doesn't count. Are you capable of arguing your claim against the big bang with reason and evidence or do you just "not like" the theory?
Incorrect. Although device drivers are IOKit-based, the VFS layer of darwin (filesystems) is almost straight FreeBSD. There are problems with the fact that Darwin's locking is different and probably VM issues. You definitely can't just take a FreeBSD filesystem and throw it into Mac OS X but it would only be a porting effort, not a rewrite.
I didn't experience *any* of the crap you guys are talking about. Stuff like that just isn't tolerated by the staff here in Australia. I can only assume that you are exaggerating or that the US is seriously fucked up. I'm a Geek and people knew it. I hung out with normal people, even though I didn't have any classes with most of them. I wasn't what you would call popular but I didn't really try to be. Hell, as long as you didn't make too many chemistry jokes around people who didn't take it, you were fine. If you actively bored people, you might end up pretty lonely but that was the worst that would happen and that would be your fault. Some socially inept nerds didn't understand this. They never understood that not everyone shared their interests. And frankly, they weren't particularly smart either. They were gamers rather than programmers, if you know what I mean.
I don't need *tabs* but I really need some way of opening pages in the background. I don't like having to wait there watching a blank page while my shitty modem sucks it down one byte at a time. Whether this is "load in background tab", OmniWeb's "open link behind this window" or some new Apple idea, I don't care, but it has to be one of them. I'm getting really sick of opening a link in a window in front and then bringing the previous window to the foreground while I wait for the page to load. This is literally the only major thing that is bothering me about Safari. Spell checking was the only other thing tying me to OmniWeb.
Ah, no. According to current theory, asking what was happening before the big bang is like asking what is north of the north pole (Hawking quote IIRC). The big bang was the creation of time. How can anything exist before the big bang? The whole idea of "before the big bang" doesn't even make sense.
It still isn't pipelining. It may be badly implemented persistant connections but i can't see how it could be pipelining. I agree completely with your analysis but you can't deny that the parent was just karma whoring. My main objection was that keep-alive != pipelining and that the parent just cut and pasted from somewhere else.
OK fair enough. I'd have checked it myself but I'm on a Mac.
I have my doubts about this too but the idea was that IE is *reusing* a connection, ie. you have to have accessed the site in the recent past. You'd have to wait for the keep-alive timeout to pass first of course. Try again but this time, access the same server again after about 30 seconds (assuming keep-alive timeout is 15 secs). Probably helpful to try an IIS server as well as yahoo.
Read some of the other comments, especially the ones in response to other comments like yours.
Whether or not this is true, it is *not* HTTP pipelining, keep-alive or any other *HTTP* level method of persistent connections. When the server times out and closes the connection, IE doesn't do the same. If it needs the same site again it just sends the request on its still open socket. If the server is IIS, it will reopen it's side (somehow) and return the requested page, instead of sending a reset like it should. I don't know if IE and IIS actually do this or not but *that* was what the article was talking about. It's a TCP level hack.
If you're going to whore, at least make sure it is relevant.
There is a simple reason why you haven't seen many good Australian TV shows: there aren't any! Practically all of the TV we see is either American or British. We do make a lot of soap opera and drama, and we export them to many countries but personally, I think they are crap.
Movies OTOH, we do. Star Wars, the Matrix, Mission Impossible, etc were all made in Sydney. The main actors may have been mostly American but everyone else working on the films were Aussies. LOTR was made in New Zealand but we are pretty much the same country. We joke about each other but New Zealand has to be the country we are closest to culturally.
I wouldn't worry about us losing our accent. It isn't pride. We are schooled in an Australian accent and no amount of TV really changes that. One thing to note is that most ads are in Australian accents, even foreign companies like McDonalds. America might be homogenising because of how easy it is to travel from one side of the country to the other. You are probably intermixing a lot. The same thing happens inside Australia but I think our accent is pretty safe from American influence. Our culture however *is* being assimilated. Frankly, I don't care. I like how it's worked out so far. We have most of the good of America with only a little of the bad (read: no Australian DMCA and there probably never will be one). If it ever becomes possible to get from America to Australia in under 2 hours, and the passport stuff is softened, then our accent may be in trouble.
I apologise for the Texas stereotype. It is probably because they are usually portrayed as stupid rednecks in movies. I know it isn't really true. G.W. Bush make this harder to acknowledge however :-).
I don't particularly mind gender in languages, as long as it is done properly (read: not German!). I'm a mix of Irish and Italian blood (only in Australia or America, eh?) and I quite like Italian as a language. Italian children are not taught spelling because the only exceptions to the very simple rules are the words that kids learn first. Words are spelled phonetically. If you see an "a", it only represents one sound.
Hmmm... if you reply, you should probably do it by email. This thread was once about the DMCA! It's off the front page now though.
An American saying "are" in place of "our" is pretty unnoticeable. When it is written though, it annoys me because I read posts in *my* inner voice, which naturally has an Australian accent. I don't really care that much though.
In common usage here inquire/enquire is replaced with the word "ask" and ensure with "make sure" ("I want to ensure..." = "I want to make sure..."). Insure is still used when talking about insurance. Better educated Australians may disagree with me however.
English blows chunks and I pity anyone who must learn it as a second language but I'm glad my language is becoming the dominate one. :)
Your last line puzzles me. What is a British accent? Even Australian accents differ. Any area that is sufficiently isolated for a significant period of time will develop its own accent. Unlike America, Australia was settled from the sea. There wasn't an overland drive westward like there was in America. Roads linking our capital cities took a long time to build. When you are an isolated town, sandwiched between the desert and the sea, and the only communication is text-only mail via ship, your pronunciations are going to drift.
Personally, my favourite accent is Canadian - minus the aboot of course. I have never heard a Canadian say aboot that noticeably though. Least favourite would have to be deep southern American rancher - you know, the kind that shoots Mexicans on sight. I think there is something about our accent that makes people think we are all horse riding, crocodile fighting yahoos. Lets face it, we don't exactly sound like intellectuals ;-)
Wow, this has to take some kind of record for off-topicness. Better drop my +1.
What is the reason for inflammable? I wouldn't have a clue.
While I sort of like American English for removing some of the stupidities of English (Queue anyone?), I prefer colour to color. It seems more... colourful!
BTW, inquire/enquire and insure/ensure are pronounced like you'd think they would be: inquire sounds like the word "in" and enquire sounds like the start of the word "enter". That doesn't mean that I can tell which one to use in a given situation or that I can tell when someone else gets it wrong however.
You got it exactly right, except more so. It has been said that NeXT bought Apple for a negative amount of money. Steve Jobs was the CEO of NeXT. How often is the CEO of the bought company made CEO of the buyer? Mac OS X is the next version of OpenStep, with a lot of Mac stuff thrown in to keep us happy. It is not a complete rewrite and NeXT used Mach because it seemed like a good idea at the time. There is nothing fundamentally wrong with Apple's code as it stands. They worked around pretty much all of Mach's problems. It is important to realise that Apple used Mach's code, not its philosophy. You won't find a microkernel in OS X, ignore what Apple marketing tells you. Having said that, I see Darwin getting closer to FreeBSD as time goes on, mainly because Mach is a dead project.
Maybe those words sound the same in your accent but they sound different (to varying degrees) in an Australian accent (father vs. ferther) and I'd guess in an English accent as well. Pet peeve: Americans who think "our" and "are" are the same word. These sound completely different in a non-American accent and when you read someone else's post in your head it sounds very wrong.
If it runs on a Unix machine it is Unix software. An XWindows program will not run on a Unix that doesn't not have an X Server installed. What about a Gnome app on a KDE only Linux workstation? You can't judge Unixness based on what APIs it supports. Gnome apps are no more unix than Carbon apps are.
Open Source != Unix. Just because the carbon API hasn't been ported to Linux doesn't make Carbon apps any less "Unix" than say a Qt app. The real problem with your line of thinking is that there isn't a standard UNIX API when it comes to GUIs. "Unix applications" don't exist. OpenStep apps exist, Gnome apps exist, Motif apps exist, etc.
BTW, how is having a Mac-only app on Freshmeat any worse than something Linux only, such as a kernel module? Does a bit of software have to run on every single Unix distro out there before it is accepted? There is plenty of unportable, Linux-only (sometimes Linux-x86 only!) software out there. A lot of it is on Freshmeat.
You can't just take out Mach and expect it to still work. You wouldn't have any Virtual Memory! However, you could write another scheduler etc, and apple probably will at some point. The Mach and BSD sections of XNU should not be considered separate. BSD processes *are* Mach tasks, they just have a bit more semantics. Apple's insistence on saying "Mach" all the time is pure marketing. Forget it is there.
Apple tries to keep the BSD stuff synced with FreeBSD as much as possible and makes lots of modifications to everything. XNU is no more a microkernel than Linux is. They both use modules (called Kernel Extensions in Darwin) but are pretty monolithic.
I did have XFree86 installed but I realised that I didn't need it and it was just taking up space on my drive. However, if you had the slightest hint of a clue you would know that XFree86 compiles on OS X from the same source tree as Linux. OS X doesn't come bundled with XFree86 but who gives a shit about that? Are you implying that PicoBSD isn't Unix?
BTW, GNU stands for GNU's Not Unix! The presence or absence of GNU tools (such as bison) does not make or break a Unix. Nor does the lack of an XWindow system.
This same stupid, pedantic, ill-informed point was argued to death on Mac forums a year or more ago. ("A: Is this a Unix application? B: No, idiot, it's a Carbon app. Only Cocoa apps are Unix! C: I'm pretty sure it has to run in the Dos terminal to be Unix").
The point is: Who really gives a shit? You do realise that technically Linux isn't a unix either? Here's my definition of a Unix: /dev exists. Probably also the idea of mount points instead of drive letters or a 'Desktop'. (Before you use this as proof that Mac OS X isn't unix, please realise that disk mounting on the desktop is GUI only. Disks are mounted under /Volumes, which is practically identical to /mnt except that it is more automatic.)
Oh yeah, Merry Christmas! :-)
Even on old world machines (beige G3 etc) Mac OS X ignores the GUI code in the ROM as it is a completely different architecture (QuickDraw rather than Quartz) and it would be pretty impossible to use from a Unix environment anyway.
Logging in as >console drops you into a text console. No GUI. Is that so hard for you to believe? If you hold down command+v, Mac OS X will boot in verbose mode ie. it dumps pages of text to the console just like linux does. Command+s will boot you into single user mode, which is sh with nothing else running and / mounted as read only.
Here's a trick: install XFree86, login as >cosnole, run startx. No Apple GUI code in sight. Hell, if you had half a clue you'd know that Apple releases Darwin free without Quartz et al. The console is all you have unless you install XFree86.