And since the coders then will write programs for the 2 generation slower hardware the consumers will scream "Where is feature X, bell Y, whistle Z??" and so on...;p
I agree that honesty is the best policy, but the problem isn't that "Linux can't do that yet" but "we can't do that by only using free software".
The binary drivers might be the only missing piece in an otherwise free system and in that case I think it's better to do that transition and hopefully later get yet another voice that can try to make the manufacturer release free drivers/specifications.
If we says that it's fine to use proprietary systems instead of trying to make the transition and teach about free software we might get one other voice that says "My binary windows drivers works just fine, why can't you linux users just take what you've got and stfu?".
I don't want them to "just run linux", instead I try to encourage ppl to use as much free software as possible, by planting the idea of alternatives and free software and letting them grow in time.
I wouldn't present the non-free binary drivers, except for situations where all the free alternatives doesn't work. Allowing non-free drivers to be used is also a way for the manufaturers to make the transition. I always try to encourage hardware with free drivers ofc.
Showing ppl that you refuse to meet halfway and cooperate to show the way to a pure free system is working against the "cause" imho..
I guess our opinions are just different on this matter though...
No, I'm the type of (once in a while) destroys my otherwise free system with proprietary games, since I belive that's better than using fully proprietary systems.
I personally don't have a problem with that. I don't see the value in a huge marketshare if it means throwing away all the idealistic goals of a GNU/Linux system. You can go use MacOSX and get better UNIX with a better GUI today if you aren't interested in the ideals behind free software.
But it's hard for most ppl to take the full step to a pure free system. I also think most ppl will take your ideas more seriously if you welcome them on their own terms, taking it step by step.
If you tell ppl to use OSX or Windows instead of adding some proprietary parts to a otherwise free system, then most ppl will feel threatened and think you're ideals just aren't worth it. Which I think is a big loss, since many of those prolly could have been running a pure free system after a while, as long as it's taken step by step.
I agree that it should be possible to run a 100% free system, but I don't think forcing that choice upon everyone is good.
I think it's easier to get ppl over to free software if we let them take one step at a time. Letting ppl run their favorite games, connect to exchange servers and using other proprietary stuff in linux will make it easier to then introduce free alternatives. It should be made clear that some applications used are nonfree, with instructions for how to make the system 100% free.
Having this all or nothing attitude will just make more ppl, who otherwise might have switched, turn their back against free software.
Allt the free above are free as in freedom, not price.
That depends on what you're used too.. It makes just as much sense to me to add it in front of the name.
For example the iso standard for dates specify year-month-day, so if I just say 02-14, it's easy to assume that I meant 2003-02-14. Or if I say just today is the 14th it's easy to assume that I mean 02-14->2003-02-14 Same thing for telephone numbers where it's --, where it let's you just chose and it fills in the rest.
In the future they might have even strong copyright protection and maybe evil moralists have forbidden pr0n..
Don't you think that the archeologists would love to watch the pr0n collections for "scientific" reasons while they know the copyright protection is gone since long on these pics??;)
Most of the companies providing games that I can play (without the hazzle of Wine(X)) supports only a few OSs on the PC, but their generic PC support might be awsome, got to install AtheOS one day and try it..;)
and kept the QPL for the Windows in order to keep the revenue. Basically, Trolltech wants money.
QT for windows isn't released under QPL.. Version 2.3.0 is released under a non-commercial license (which isn't open source), this and the rest of the versions are only released under their commercial license.
Hopefully they'll release QT 3 under a nice license for windows too, but atm I have no need for the windows support and just loves QT-X11 =)
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D) We can't buy apps because we're not in one of the countries that have support for paid apps in google market.
Doesn't it depend on which planet you're on? When on mars, do as the marsians?
Maybe we need to start KDE project as answer to Evolution?
;)
Let's call it Kreationism
Maybe a XY should be created for the non-lesbian females?
And since the coders then will write programs for the 2 generation slower hardware the consumers will scream "Where is feature X, bell Y, whistle Z??" and so on... ;p
I agree that honesty is the best policy, but the problem isn't that "Linux can't do that yet" but "we can't do that by only using free software".
The binary drivers might be the only missing piece in an otherwise free system and in that case I think it's better to do that transition and hopefully later get yet another voice that can try to make the manufacturer release free drivers/specifications.
If we says that it's fine to use proprietary systems instead of trying to make the transition and teach about free software we might get one other voice that says "My binary windows drivers works just fine, why can't you linux users just take what you've got and stfu?".
I don't want them to "just run linux", instead I try to encourage ppl to use as much free software as possible, by planting the idea of alternatives and free software and letting them grow in time.
I wouldn't present the non-free binary drivers, except for situations where all the free alternatives doesn't work. Allowing non-free drivers to be used is also a way for the manufaturers to make the transition. I always try to encourage hardware with free drivers ofc.
Showing ppl that you refuse to meet halfway and cooperate to show the way to a pure free system is working against the "cause" imho..
I guess our opinions are just different on this matter though...
No, I'm the type of (once in a while) destroys my otherwise free system with proprietary games, since I belive that's better than using fully proprietary systems.
But it's hard for most ppl to take the full step to a pure free system. I also think most ppl will take your ideas more seriously if you welcome them on their own terms, taking it step by step.
If you tell ppl to use OSX or Windows instead of adding some proprietary parts to a otherwise free system, then most ppl will feel threatened and think you're ideals just aren't worth it. Which I think is a big loss, since many of those prolly could have been running a pure free system after a while, as long as it's taken step by step.
I agree that it should be possible to run a 100% free system, but I don't think forcing that choice upon everyone is good.
I think it's easier to get ppl over to free software if we let them take one step at a time. Letting ppl run their favorite games, connect to exchange servers and using other proprietary stuff in linux will make it easier to then introduce free alternatives. It should be made clear that some applications used are nonfree, with instructions for how to make the system 100% free.
Having this all or nothing attitude will just make more ppl, who otherwise might have switched, turn their back against free software.
Allt the free above are free as in freedom, not price.
Why do you think everything is black or white?
IMHO it's much better if ppl use as much free software as possible, compared to non, even if they can't go all the way.
That depends on what you're used too.. It makes just as much sense to me to add it in front of the name.
For example the iso standard for dates specify year-month-day, so if I just say 02-14, it's easy to assume that I meant 2003-02-14. Or if I say just today is the 14th it's easy to assume that I mean 02-14->2003-02-14
Same thing for telephone numbers where it's --, where it let's you just chose and it fills in the rest.
Mandrake for example..
Because it's fun ofc!!! ;)
I've never had any problems reading text using either the default8x16 or default8x9 font, especially not since I got my 19"...
More like: all your thoughts are belong to U.S.
Was he the one who was responsible for the 9x series?? ;)
All your softare are belong to M$ so just STFU
In the future they might have even strong copyright protection and maybe evil moralists have forbidden pr0n..
;)
Don't you think that the archeologists would love to watch the pr0n collections for "scientific" reasons while they know the copyright protection is gone since long on these pics??
AFAIK, the swedish military makes heavy use of NT4 in their computers...
Most of the companies providing games that I can play (without the hazzle of Wine(X)) supports only a few OSs on the PC, but their generic PC support might be awsome, got to install AtheOS one day and try it.. ;)
QT for windows isn't released under QPL.. Version 2.3.0 is released under a non-commercial license (which isn't open source), this and the rest of the versions are only released under their commercial license.
Hopefully they'll release QT 3 under a nice license for windows too, but atm I have no need for the windows support and just loves QT-X11 =)