There are just too many people out there in charge of DNS boxes that don't know what they are doing. A few years ago I was one of those people. Then I discovered dnsstuff.com. After that I decided it might be a good idea for me to read up on BIND. DNS is a complex system and if you aren't a CLI jockey, thances are that yours is misconfigured.
Now, I don't think this is actually new on MS's part. They've been selling Beta software under the guise of point-oh releases for more than 20 years. Think about it... If software is well designed and simple, it's going to have very few if any bugs in it. What DOS like that? No. Windows 2.0? Windows 3.0? Windows NT 3.51? Windows NT 4? Windows XP? No on all counts. There were tons of patches. But Microsoft promulgated the notion of "production ready" software and claimed to be giving their customers the best quality. What is happening is that MS is not, suddenly releasing betas as production ready. They are finally being honest about the fact that complex software is ALWAYS beta quality because there are always problems. It doesn't matter if it's proprietary or FOSS, it's so complex that there will always be an uncrossed 't' or an undotted 'i' (or more realistically a forgotten function or two that get accidentally called when someone else decides to use the same name without knowing that other function exists).
By Microsoft being a little more truthful about the quality of their software they can afford to become a little sloppier. Expect to see more "great things" from the Microsoft camp.;P
Cars happen to have seat belts. Roads also have speed limits, so this analogy is flawed.
Yes. But there are a lot of idiots who don't want to wear seat belts and see them as an inconvenience. There are also people who don't want to follow the speed limits as my little flamewar yesterday indicates. I would guess that the same people who think seat belts and speed limits are a bad idea are the same kind of people who think it's OK to run as 'root' or Administrator. Hmmm... I wonder if Robertson was involved in my flamewar yesterday?;P
I agree that running as root is a bad idea. But the problem is that most people can't even begin to understand the reasons why no matter how clearly you try to explain it to them. I think Robertson is just saying this in the hopes that he can get some mindshare and the accompanying market share. I also think Robertson is being really thick.
So tell me... Are you narrow minded enough that you apply the same way of thinking to everything in your life? I'm black and white when it makes sense and shades of grey when that is applicable. Get off your high horse, you ass.
In a word... sucks. Where I work, there was a trojan/worm that we were tracking and Symantec Corporate Edition wasn't finding it. After talking to them, it turns out they already knew about the problem but weren't going to be releasing any definition updates for mass deployment for a week. Instead they sent us a link to the early updates that we could apply manually. This stuff should be automated! Total suck in my opinion. Of course, I'm not the Windows admin here thankfully. That's a job I don't think I'd really want.
If it says 5 MPH, then I drive 5 MPH. The inconvenience of driving slower is outweighed by the benefit of perfection attained in following the posted limit.
Actually I have five steady users. Myself, my wife, both of my parents via DSL and a friend via DSL. But it still works well. Each session is managed by GDM and I disable VNC authentication for that reason. When users disconnect from their sessions, they just click on a disconnect icon which locks the screen with Xscreensaver, and uses ssh to remotely kill the remote vncviewer from the server end.
I DON'T DRIVE IN THE FUCKING LEFT HAND LANE. I mentioned that in my JE. I guess you're all too retarded to bother reading it. Here's the fucking quote for you worthless lazy ass sons of bitches and cunts:
"You have room to cut around me on either side in almost every case. If not, I typically shift into a lane to give you room to pass. So WHY, if you have room, do you NOT PASS!!!!?"
That's what I said. Typically, I'm in the normal traffic lanes, NOT the PASSING LANE. Get it through your thick boneheaded skulls. If this post doesn't resolve this pointless complaint, then I'm afraid all respondents have proven they are incapable of driving because you are also incapable of reading. Sayonara dickholes.
Uhh... read the parent you asshole. He was complaining about how he was in traffic court three times in a row. DING DING DING!!!! That means he's a BAD DRIVER. If you have a clean driving record, you're a good driver. Bad driving record = good driver. Simple. Go back and learn how to read you stunted dickhead.
Although I have no way to prove it, let's just say that in nineteen years of driving, I got one speeding ticket. One. And it was waived because I have such a clean record. Know why I got it? Because I set my car on cruise control at 55 MPH and when I hit a hill it climbed up to 60 MPH. The cop (in a small backwoods town in southern Ohio) was really understanding and very impressed with my driving record. Now... how many times have you been in traffic court to contest a speeding ticket again? I rest my case.
...when it suddenly became wrong to follow rules and right to break them? It's one thing when a law or rule is unjust (apartheid, anti-abortion, etc...). But it's another thing when the rules are there for a good reason. The national speed limit of 55MPH was created to conserv fuel AND save lives. I don't care what you want to link to, the fact is that if you get hit by a car going 70-75 MPH, your chances of walking away are greatly reduced compared to getting hit by someone going 45-55 MPH. We don't all need to go out and buy Volvos or start using public transportation. The buttholes who want to stroke their penis extensions need to go to hell. Driving is simply transportation. It's not a game. It's not a race. It's just go from point A to point B. That's it. Nothing more.
But overall, it seems that people have thrown logic out of the window and want to justify bad behavior in any way they can find. The responses to my post here bear this out with the possible exception of a few trolls who post AC. Driving is not a right folks, it's a privlege. And if you can't handle it, then it will be taken away eventually. Hopefully by proper law enforcement, but possibly by the grim reaper.
Again. Get over yourself and read my fucking journal Ms. Schiavo. You will note that I said that there is always room to pass on EITHER side of me and yet the idiots refuse to do so. I always stay in the center or normal traffic lanes and only use the passing lane WHEN PASSING.
Oh yeah... I forgot about that vast government conspiracy to ticket us all to death so that they can get rich. Thank you for bringing that to my attention. Do you also happen to have the inside scoop on Area 51 and Roswell? I do so trust your sources... Ass.
Sorry... make that left hand lane. I don't usually think of it as right and left, but as "passing lane" (which I stay out of) and regular traffic lanes.
Well... if you had RTFJE, you would know that there is usually room on both sides of my car and people still tailgate. If I am in the right hand lane (which I do very rarely because that's reserved for people who need to pass) and someone is going faster than me, I *do* move out of the way. But since it's a rarity that I'm in that lane in the first plae unless I'm passing, that doesn't acount for the 98% of the tailgaters who still refuse to pass me when they have ample opportunity. I can only chalk it up to bad driving skills or some kind of dominant desire they have to prove themselves, somehow, "better" than me. Interestingly enough, all they have proven is that they are slobbering retards with security issues.
I forgot to mention that VNC on Unix is definitely faster than on Windows. I can watch video with MPlayer or Xine using the VNC connection over a 100Mb wired line. The 802.11b wireless isn't quite fast enough for that though.
...VNC does something X can't. It allows you to leave a complete desktop session running and connect to that same session from any other machine on the network. I did originally try using X as a terminal server for apps, then full desktops, but where it failed was that I couldn't move the sessions with me. Right now, I run my full desktop and access it from any laptop in the house, or from my desktop at work using OpenVPN. This is a feature that X really needs to adopt. If X could do this, I would use it that way. But as soon as you log into an X session, it's associated with the machine you logged in from. You can't attach to it from anywhere else (unless you use the x0vncserver or the vnc module for X). The main reason I prefer this functionality is that all machines in the house beomce thin clients that have the same exact functionality as a full desktop (with esd stuff being forwarded over an ssh tunnel for encryption [in addition to WEP] and compression). So my wife, or myself can just click a button, enter the unlock password for the X screensaver, and get the last session we were actively in . All apps running, documents open, etc...
Moral relativism is not an excuse for bad behavior in any case. Your thinking is flawed. Please re-evaluate your position to be more in line with reason.
That's my point. My Atari ST booted off of a diskette in about 25-30 seconds. Less, if I wasn't loading any desk accessories. That's too slow. Think of it this way. Back in the 50s, 60s and early 70s, TV sets needed to "warm up" before you'd see an image. You might hear the sound, but the picture would fade in from black over a period of a few seconds. Today, when you turn a TV on, the picture is right there. It too the consumer electronics industry about 20-30 years to come up with this. (I believe the first TVs that kept part of the picture tube on even when the TV was off made their appearance in the 70s) So... home computers have been around since the late 70s. We're reaching that 20-30 year period where maybe... just maybe... the compute industry might come up with a way of keeping part of the OS running in a warm standby mode. Not suspended, but where everything is already powered up and waiting at some low level state in non volatile RAM. None of this copying stuff to a hard drive image for later restore. But an actual frozen system state in RAM. When you hit the power button, power is applied to the rest of the system and about the only thing you might need to wait for is the HDs to catch up with everything else for data access only. The key point being that EVERYTHING should be running in RAM with no swapping, no hard drive dependency, just pure RAM speed.
As my latest JE points out, people just don't follow the speed limit anymore or maintain safe braking distances. I don't think they will until corrective measures are taken. And the only corrective measures are those that are enforced on drivers. Driving is not a hobby or a skill, it's a practical mode of transportation. If you want to race, go find a race track and have at it. If you want to get from point A to point B, then follow the laws to the letter, leave plenty of time for travel, and don't bitch when you get a legit ticket.
I have been heavily researching the construction of a dual Opteron box to become the main server in my house. The main reason I want two procs is so that I have enough power to run several virtual machines using the Xen Virtual Machine Monitor. THIS is what a dual core processor should be used for. If the CPU is powerful enough and you are a bit of a cheapskate, you could even use the second core to be a low end 3D accelerator for games using some kind of open source driver (if someone cooked up a project like that). The fact is that most standard CPUs these days are more powerful than the DSPs of the early 90s. So instead of using DSPs to do stuff, the second core would be of great use this way. Imagine being able to run a ton of audio plugins while recording and mixing your next album. THAT is what dual cores was meant for. Not for chasing down the problems of poor coders.
...in a handbasket. Idiots abound in today's development communities. If they are given more power, they get lazier and use it all to do exactly the same thing it did before, but with a few new, shiny tailfins. I still ask the same question every time a new OS or new hardware comes out: Why can't I turn my computer on and off like a TV? We should "be there" by now! No... should have BEEN there eight years ago!! It still takes a modern Windows XP Pro box as much time as it took my floppy based Atari ST to boot of off of a single sided 3.5 inch diskette!
I want to see a system with all the functionality of a typical desktop environment (XPee, GNOME, KDE, Mac OS X) boot and run (ie. put you at a desktop with all apps running) in less than a second. The only way I've been able to approximate this is with my "terminal server" RedHat Linux box running GNOME, VNC and SSH. The terminal server never shuts down or turns off. My laptops act like thin clients. I just click an icon and BAM!!! I'm at my desktop with all apps running in less than a second. But this is NOT the awy it should be done. I shouldn't have to have a machine that is on 24x7 to do this. I should just hit the power button and just start working. I should also conversely be able to hit the power button and know that everything is off and exactly the way I left it awaiting my return for the next session. And no... turning my monitor off and leaving the computer on 24x7 is not the answer either!
The dual cores, should be used completely for tasks that the use wants to use them for. If anything, I think we'd be better of if the Windows jockeys just got add-on DSP cards that handled firewalling, anti-virus and other security hole patching that Windows requires. Fortunately I know nothing about this as I am a fiarly content Linux user. The very idea that someone would suggest using the second core for running software that is there to fix the mistakes of others is just more proof that the software industry doesn't care about quality in the least. Just profit. Only profit. If you want quality, go GNU. That's all I have to say.
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There are just too many people out there in charge of DNS boxes that don't know what they are doing. A few years ago I was one of those people. Then I discovered dnsstuff.com. After that I decided it might be a good idea for me to read up on BIND. DNS is a complex system and if you aren't a CLI jockey, thances are that yours is misconfigured.
Nipples.
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Now, I don't think this is actually new on MS's part. They've been selling Beta software under the guise of point-oh releases for more than 20 years. Think about it... If software is well designed and simple, it's going to have very few if any bugs in it. What DOS like that? No. Windows 2.0? Windows 3.0? Windows NT 3.51? Windows NT 4? Windows XP? No on all counts. There were tons of patches. But Microsoft promulgated the notion of "production ready" software and claimed to be giving their customers the best quality. What is happening is that MS is not, suddenly releasing betas as production ready. They are finally being honest about the fact that complex software is ALWAYS beta quality because there are always problems. It doesn't matter if it's proprietary or FOSS, it's so complex that there will always be an uncrossed 't' or an undotted 'i' (or more realistically a forgotten function or two that get accidentally called when someone else decides to use the same name without knowing that other function exists).
By Microsoft being a little more truthful about the quality of their software they can afford to become a little sloppier. Expect to see more "great things" from the Microsoft camp.
Yes. But there are a lot of idiots who don't want to wear seat belts and see them as an inconvenience. There are also people who don't want to follow the speed limits as my little flamewar yesterday indicates. I would guess that the same people who think seat belts and speed limits are a bad idea are the same kind of people who think it's OK to run as 'root' or Administrator. Hmmm... I wonder if Robertson was involved in my flamewar yesterday? ;P
I agree that running as root is a bad idea. But the problem is that most people can't even begin to understand the reasons why no matter how clearly you try to explain it to them. I think Robertson is just saying this in the hopes that he can get some mindshare and the accompanying market share. I also think Robertson is being really thick.
So tell me... Are you narrow minded enough that you apply the same way of thinking to everything in your life? I'm black and white when it makes sense and shades of grey when that is applicable. Get off your high horse, you ass.
Or at least it sure looks like one. I almost lost my lunch when I followed it.
In a word... sucks. Where I work, there was a trojan/worm that we were tracking and Symantec Corporate Edition wasn't finding it. After talking to them, it turns out they already knew about the problem but weren't going to be releasing any definition updates for mass deployment for a week. Instead they sent us a link to the early updates that we could apply manually. This stuff should be automated! Total suck in my opinion. Of course, I'm not the Windows admin here thankfully. That's a job I don't think I'd really want.
If it says 5 MPH, then I drive 5 MPH. The inconvenience of driving slower is outweighed by the benefit of perfection attained in following the posted limit.
Heheh. That's the best you can do? You really are pathetic.
Actually I have five steady users. Myself, my wife, both of my parents via DSL and a friend via DSL. But it still works well. Each session is managed by GDM and I disable VNC authentication for that reason. When users disconnect from their sessions, they just click on a disconnect icon which locks the screen with Xscreensaver, and uses ssh to remotely kill the remote vncviewer from the server end.
I DON'T DRIVE IN THE FUCKING LEFT HAND LANE. I mentioned that in my JE. I guess you're all too retarded to bother reading it. Here's the fucking quote for you worthless lazy ass sons of bitches and cunts:
"You have room to cut around me on either side in almost every case. If not, I typically shift into a lane to give you room to pass. So WHY, if you have room, do you NOT PASS!!!!?"
That's what I said. Typically, I'm in the normal traffic lanes, NOT the PASSING LANE. Get it through your thick boneheaded skulls. If this post doesn't resolve this pointless complaint, then I'm afraid all respondents have proven they are incapable of driving because you are also incapable of reading. Sayonara dickholes.
Uhh... read the parent you asshole. He was complaining about how he was in traffic court three times in a row. DING DING DING!!!! That means he's a BAD DRIVER. If you have a clean driving record, you're a good driver. Bad driving record = good driver. Simple. Go back and learn how to read you stunted dickhead.
Although I have no way to prove it, let's just say that in nineteen years of driving, I got one speeding ticket. One. And it was waived because I have such a clean record. Know why I got it? Because I set my car on cruise control at 55 MPH and when I hit a hill it climbed up to 60 MPH. The cop (in a small backwoods town in southern Ohio) was really understanding and very impressed with my driving record. Now... how many times have you been in traffic court to contest a speeding ticket again? I rest my case.
...when it suddenly became wrong to follow rules and right to break them? It's one thing when a law or rule is unjust (apartheid, anti-abortion, etc...). But it's another thing when the rules are there for a good reason. The national speed limit of 55MPH was created to conserv fuel AND save lives. I don't care what you want to link to, the fact is that if you get hit by a car going 70-75 MPH, your chances of walking away are greatly reduced compared to getting hit by someone going 45-55 MPH. We don't all need to go out and buy Volvos or start using public transportation. The buttholes who want to stroke their penis extensions need to go to hell. Driving is simply transportation. It's not a game. It's not a race. It's just go from point A to point B. That's it. Nothing more.
But overall, it seems that people have thrown logic out of the window and want to justify bad behavior in any way they can find. The responses to my post here bear this out with the possible exception of a few trolls who post AC. Driving is not a right folks, it's a privlege. And if you can't handle it, then it will be taken away eventually. Hopefully by proper law enforcement, but possibly by the grim reaper.
Again. Get over yourself and read my fucking journal Ms. Schiavo. You will note that I said that there is always room to pass on EITHER side of me and yet the idiots refuse to do so. I always stay in the center or normal traffic lanes and only use the passing lane WHEN PASSING.
Oh yeah... I forgot about that vast government conspiracy to ticket us all to death so that they can get rich. Thank you for bringing that to my attention. Do you also happen to have the inside scoop on Area 51 and Roswell? I do so trust your sources... Ass.
Sorry... make that left hand lane. I don't usually think of it as right and left, but as "passing lane" (which I stay out of) and regular traffic lanes.
Well... if you had RTFJE, you would know that there is usually room on both sides of my car and people still tailgate. If I am in the right hand lane (which I do very rarely because that's reserved for people who need to pass) and someone is going faster than me, I *do* move out of the way. But since it's a rarity that I'm in that lane in the first plae unless I'm passing, that doesn't acount for the 98% of the tailgaters who still refuse to pass me when they have ample opportunity. I can only chalk it up to bad driving skills or some kind of dominant desire they have to prove themselves, somehow, "better" than me. Interestingly enough, all they have proven is that they are slobbering retards with security issues.
I forgot to mention that VNC on Unix is definitely faster than on Windows. I can watch video with MPlayer or Xine using the VNC connection over a 100Mb wired line. The 802.11b wireless isn't quite fast enough for that though.
...VNC does something X can't. It allows you to leave a complete desktop session running and connect to that same session from any other machine on the network. I did originally try using X as a terminal server for apps, then full desktops, but where it failed was that I couldn't move the sessions with me. Right now, I run my full desktop and access it from any laptop in the house, or from my desktop at work using OpenVPN. This is a feature that X really needs to adopt. If X could do this, I would use it that way. But as soon as you log into an X session, it's associated with the machine you logged in from. You can't attach to it from anywhere else (unless you use the x0vncserver or the vnc module for X). The main reason I prefer this functionality is that all machines in the house beomce thin clients that have the same exact functionality as a full desktop (with esd stuff being forwarded over an ssh tunnel for encryption [in addition to WEP] and compression). So my wife, or myself can just click a button, enter the unlock password for the X screensaver, and get the last session we were actively in . All apps running, documents open, etc...
Moral relativism is not an excuse for bad behavior in any case. Your thinking is flawed. Please re-evaluate your position to be more in line with reason.
That's my point. My Atari ST booted off of a diskette in about 25-30 seconds. Less, if I wasn't loading any desk accessories. That's too slow. Think of it this way. Back in the 50s, 60s and early 70s, TV sets needed to "warm up" before you'd see an image. You might hear the sound, but the picture would fade in from black over a period of a few seconds. Today, when you turn a TV on, the picture is right there. It too the consumer electronics industry about 20-30 years to come up with this. (I believe the first TVs that kept part of the picture tube on even when the TV was off made their appearance in the 70s) So... home computers have been around since the late 70s. We're reaching that 20-30 year period where maybe... just maybe... the compute industry might come up with a way of keeping part of the OS running in a warm standby mode. Not suspended, but where everything is already powered up and waiting at some low level state in non volatile RAM. None of this copying stuff to a hard drive image for later restore. But an actual frozen system state in RAM. When you hit the power button, power is applied to the rest of the system and about the only thing you might need to wait for is the HDs to catch up with everything else for data access only. The key point being that EVERYTHING should be running in RAM with no swapping, no hard drive dependency, just pure RAM speed.
As my latest JE points out, people just don't follow the speed limit anymore or maintain safe braking distances. I don't think they will until corrective measures are taken. And the only corrective measures are those that are enforced on drivers. Driving is not a hobby or a skill, it's a practical mode of transportation. If you want to race, go find a race track and have at it. If you want to get from point A to point B, then follow the laws to the letter, leave plenty of time for travel, and don't bitch when you get a legit ticket.
You wouldn't happen to know Chacham, would you? I only ask because of your user ID and sig.
Right on, RIGHT ON my brothah!!!
I have been heavily researching the construction of a dual Opteron box to become the main server in my house. The main reason I want two procs is so that I have enough power to run several virtual machines using the Xen Virtual Machine Monitor. THIS is what a dual core processor should be used for. If the CPU is powerful enough and you are a bit of a cheapskate, you could even use the second core to be a low end 3D accelerator for games using some kind of open source driver (if someone cooked up a project like that). The fact is that most standard CPUs these days are more powerful than the DSPs of the early 90s. So instead of using DSPs to do stuff, the second core would be of great use this way. Imagine being able to run a ton of audio plugins while recording and mixing your next album. THAT is what dual cores was meant for. Not for chasing down the problems of poor coders.
...in a handbasket. Idiots abound in today's development communities. If they are given more power, they get lazier and use it all to do exactly the same thing it did before, but with a few new, shiny tailfins. I still ask the same question every time a new OS or new hardware comes out: Why can't I turn my computer on and off like a TV? We should "be there" by now! No... should have BEEN there eight years ago!! It still takes a modern Windows XP Pro box as much time as it took my floppy based Atari ST to boot of off of a single sided 3.5 inch diskette!
I want to see a system with all the functionality of a typical desktop environment (XPee, GNOME, KDE, Mac OS X) boot and run (ie. put you at a desktop with all apps running) in less than a second. The only way I've been able to approximate this is with my "terminal server" RedHat Linux box running GNOME, VNC and SSH. The terminal server never shuts down or turns off. My laptops act like thin clients. I just click an icon and BAM!!! I'm at my desktop with all apps running in less than a second. But this is NOT the awy it should be done. I shouldn't have to have a machine that is on 24x7 to do this. I should just hit the power button and just start working. I should also conversely be able to hit the power button and know that everything is off and exactly the way I left it awaiting my return for the next session. And no... turning my monitor off and leaving the computer on 24x7 is not the answer either!
The dual cores, should be used completely for tasks that the use wants to use them for. If anything, I think we'd be better of if the Windows jockeys just got add-on DSP cards that handled firewalling, anti-virus and other security hole patching that Windows requires. Fortunately I know nothing about this as I am a fiarly content Linux user. The very idea that someone would suggest using the second core for running software that is there to fix the mistakes of others is just more proof that the software industry doesn't care about quality in the least. Just profit. Only profit. If you want quality, go GNU. That's all I have to say.