Really? Who was arrested for wearing a "No Bush" T-shirt? I can't seem to find any information about it. There appear to be a few people here wearing anti-Bush T-shirts who aren't getting arrested. Maybe they're just lucky.
I didn't find a story about anyone being arrested for wearing anti-Bush t-shirts (although I did read it somewhere. I'll have to find it.) However, there are plenty of stories of people being arrested for the horrible crime of having an anti-Bush opinion and wanting to express it via signs, in a venue where the President might see or hear it.
The ACLU has been kind enough to chronicle some examples.
In addition for those who are not apt to believe anything you hear from the ACLU perhaps an article from the December 15 American Conservative Magazine might convince you.
Unfortunately, he violations of free speech are real. This is not a bunch of people in the midst of a "tin-hat" moment. And if you think it will get any better with another four years of this fool Bush you're having a "head in the sand" moment.
You cannot stop terrorists and prevent future attacks unless the government has some ability to tap into private citizens conversations when they feel its justified. This means, that in order to protect my life and other peoples lives, (not to mention as our economy and way of life), the right to privacy cannot trump everything when terrorism is involved.
Actually, you are wrong. The government had information that something was going to happen but didn't process the information until after the fact. How exactly will intruding on the privacy of everyone improve the situation? The fact is that the government blew it and they know it. The claim that more information is needed is nothing more than a cover up for their failings. Rewarding incompentence by giving the government more power and allowing it to intrude on our civil liberties makes no sense which is exactly what this kind of attitude is doing.
You might trust the government but based on COINTELPRO and the Denver police department's recent behavior when it comes to spying on the citizenry (especially those who choose to protest government policy) I'm not inclined to give the government anything approaching the benefit of the doubt.
Of course others may differ but I usually find that those who are willing to subject themselves to rather random intrusions by the goverment are ususally those who when it comes down to it are least likely to suffer harassment from the goverment.
Irrelevant. My neighbor's house isn't an airport occupied by hundreds of thousands of strangers every year.
That may be so but the street the house is located on may be walked upon by the same hundreds of thousands of strangers. There aren't random searches for nail files for passers-by.
I didn't find a story about anyone being arrested for wearing anti-Bush t-shirts (although I did read it somewhere. I'll have to find it.) However, there are plenty of stories of people being arrested for the horrible crime of having an anti-Bush opinion and wanting to express it via signs, in a venue where the President might see or hear it.
The ACLU has been kind enough to chronicle some examples.
In addition for those who are not apt to believe anything you hear from the ACLU perhaps an article from the December 15 American Conservative Magazine might convince you.
Unfortunately, he violations of free speech are real. This is not a bunch of people in the midst of a "tin-hat" moment. And if you think it will get any better with another four years of this fool Bush you're having a "head in the sand" moment.
Rainey
You cannot stop terrorists and prevent future attacks unless the government has some ability to tap into private citizens conversations when they feel its justified. This means, that in order to protect my life and other peoples lives, (not to mention as our economy and way of life), the right to privacy cannot trump everything when terrorism is involved.
Actually, you are wrong. The government had information that something was going to happen but didn't process the information until after the fact. How exactly will intruding on the privacy of everyone improve the situation? The fact is that the government blew it and they know it. The claim that more information is needed is nothing more than a cover up for their failings. Rewarding incompentence by giving the government more power and allowing it to intrude on our civil liberties makes no sense which is exactly what this kind of attitude is doing.
You might trust the government but based on COINTELPRO and the Denver police department's recent behavior when it comes to spying on the citizenry (especially those who choose to protest government policy) I'm not inclined to give the government anything approaching the benefit of the doubt.
Of course others may differ but I usually find that those who are willing to subject themselves to rather random intrusions by the goverment are ususally those who when it comes down to it are least likely to suffer harassment from the goverment.
Rainey
Irrelevant. My neighbor's house isn't an airport occupied by hundreds of thousands of strangers every year.
That may be so but the street the house is located on may be walked upon by the same hundreds of thousands of strangers. There aren't random searches for nail files for passers-by.
Rainey