Actually, most of those locks stopping the trunk release lever from moving, are tension cable driven. Just take a screwdriver under the interior molding and pry up about an inch. It will trip the latch.
And we didn't start checking every single car near a group of people for bombs after that. Can't imagine why...except that it isn't a useful check since the haystack of cars without a bomb is so fucking big as to make finding the needle through searching every strand of hay a useless endeavor.
Yes the key wouldn't open the trunk 'lock' but if there's a pull lever in the car to pop open the trunk (with key lock to stop it's operation from a valet key), that usually is a cable that goes back to the trunk latch. Regardless of key that cable is simply under the interior molding that a simple screw driver can move and thus open the trunk latch.
My 87 civic had that technology. If they've gone to electronic push buttons to open the trunk, see my lack of valet 'mode' to stop trunks from opening.
But the valet's aren't authorized to do 'searches', just to access and move your vehicle. Now the fun legal gymnastics being trying to prove that the NSA telling them to do something was official 'authorization'.
Having the NSA outsourcing this crap is a HUGE red flag.
Being from Rochacha, fuck you. But you're point is apt, in that as people have noted, the valets aren't at all trained and ANYTHING unusual would probably make them go "Hey NSA look here!"
And the 'valet' key that won't open the trunk? The key lock in the car to stop the trunk from opening is just a cable that can be pried with a screwdriver and pop goes the trunk latch. If you have a lever to pull to open the trunk, odds are it's a cable. If it's electronic, then it's just a button push and I haven't heard of a valet 'mode' to put the car in yet.
9-11 wasn't a car bomb. Why are we trying to stop every possible bad thing? We weren't doing this before 9-11.
But for fun, how many car bombs have been detonated or even attempted to be detonated in the US at an airport valet parking lot? I'm guessing less than 2 and likely zero.
Lets stop actual threats and not people just fishing for something to justify their jobs.
It wasn't recognized it would be a long conflict. The Iraq war became the focus and we were expressly told 6 months. And that Saddam had WMDs and that we new where they were. Lies, all of them.
It has been well established case law that phone records are protected by the 4th amendment. linky There are lots of links both for and against. Mostly the 'for' rulings are the appeals and overrides of the rulings that said that records were not subject to 4th amendment.
Similarly, the police need a warrant to get your email. If it's 180 days old on the server, then they don't need a warrant.
They've done nothing but consistently rolled over and played "yes-men" to the executive branch - essentially operating this country for a dozen years as a one-branch government.
Uh, check the number of filibusters used against Obama. The 'do nothing' Congress of the 50s got multiple times over more work done than the last 5 years.
Blaming it on the GOP or anyone else is also sort of undermined by everything else he failed to do in the last six years.
Do you not remember the meeting the night of the election (or perhaps his first inauguration) where the GOP met and decided to explicitly oppose everything he tried to do for no reason other than to oppose him? The spineless Dems certainly didn't help, but the obstruction of the GOP is and has been quite blatant.
Anyone remember how the first thing he was going to do was not only shutdown Gitmo, but get us out of Iraq? In fact, you could "take that to the bank"?
So you're argument over why he didn't get Gitmo done is he didn't get Gitmo done?
Remember how it was going to be the most transparent presidency, ever?
Yep and I'm just as pissed off about it as you.
Remember how Bush didn't need anyone to "let" him do anything, because he was the decider?
Remember how the Dems filibustered everything he tried to do? Oh wait, they didn't. They had the honor to 'lose' votes rather than choosing to simply avoid voting at all.
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Actually, most of those locks stopping the trunk release lever from moving, are tension cable driven. Just take a screwdriver under the interior molding and pry up about an inch. It will trip the latch.
Apparently you're oblivious to the 4th Amendment. Cops are allowed to visibly inspect, but not open closed compartments.
They are operable with a screwdriver though. Just pull the tension cable and the latch opens...which is how the key works.
Some are probably electronic buttons, but then how do you disable that?
Valet parked cars may remain in front of the busy area of the airport for a while before being parked.
So do taxis and everybody dropping off or loading. Yet we aren't searching them...
And we didn't start checking every single car near a group of people for bombs after that. Can't imagine why...except that it isn't a useful check since the haystack of cars without a bomb is so fucking big as to make finding the needle through searching every strand of hay a useless endeavor.
Yes the key wouldn't open the trunk 'lock' but if there's a pull lever in the car to pop open the trunk (with key lock to stop it's operation from a valet key), that usually is a cable that goes back to the trunk latch. Regardless of key that cable is simply under the interior molding that a simple screw driver can move and thus open the trunk latch.
My 87 civic had that technology. If they've gone to electronic push buttons to open the trunk, see my lack of valet 'mode' to stop trunks from opening.
This.
nobody knows what causes the NSA to consider someone a suspect
Clearly it's anybody who 'hops'....or makes beer ;-)
But the valet's aren't authorized to do 'searches', just to access and move your vehicle. Now the fun legal gymnastics being trying to prove that the NSA telling them to do something was official 'authorization'.
Having the NSA outsourcing this crap is a HUGE red flag.
Being from Rochacha, fuck you. But you're point is apt, in that as people have noted, the valets aren't at all trained and ANYTHING unusual would probably make them go "Hey NSA look here!"
And the 'valet' key that won't open the trunk? The key lock in the car to stop the trunk from opening is just a cable that can be pried with a screwdriver and pop goes the trunk latch. If you have a lever to pull to open the trunk, odds are it's a cable. If it's electronic, then it's just a button push and I haven't heard of a valet 'mode' to put the car in yet.
So you're logic is that cars could contain bombs and we should try and prevent any car from having a bomb at any place more than a few people gather?
How about school parking lots? Should we be searching every car dropping off kids?
9-11 wasn't a car bomb. Why are we trying to stop every possible bad thing? We weren't doing this before 9-11.
But for fun, how many car bombs have been detonated or even attempted to be detonated in the US at an airport valet parking lot? I'm guessing less than 2 and likely zero.
Lets stop actual threats and not people just fishing for something to justify their jobs.
When XYZ *is* a legally passed law, then yes it is a legally justified reason.
:)
Doesn't mean it's right or even constitutional, but it IS legal. Until ruled unconstitutional
The Patriot Act is their excuse for doing though, so yes, repealing the Patriot Act removes their justification as a valid point of argument.
It is a valid question though, how do you prove a secret program actually stops?
During the last election the IRS targeted conservative non profit organizations
well to be fair, a registered republican conservative thought up the idea...
It wasn't recognized it would be a long conflict. The Iraq war became the focus and we were expressly told 6 months. And that Saddam had WMDs and that we new where they were. Lies, all of them.
We're at war with a 'tactic' not an enemy. How do you win against a 'tactic'?
It has been well established case law that phone records are protected by the 4th amendment. linky There are lots of links both for and against. Mostly the 'for' rulings are the appeals and overrides of the rulings that said that records were not subject to 4th amendment.
Similarly, the police need a warrant to get your email. If it's 180 days old on the server, then they don't need a warrant.
Ah yes, the fuck'em fairy tale answer to a serious question. Well played.
Yes it does. Phone records are considered protected information or have been until now.
Yeah, many many many more died in Iraq under Bush than in either war under Obama. What's your point?
Must be nice to live in your world where decisions don't have consequences. What happens to the prisoners currently held at Gitmo?
They've done nothing but consistently rolled over and played "yes-men" to the executive branch - essentially operating this country for a dozen years as a one-branch government.
Uh, check the number of filibusters used against Obama. The 'do nothing' Congress of the 50s got multiple times over more work done than the last 5 years.
Blaming it on the GOP or anyone else is also sort of undermined by everything else he failed to do in the last six years.
Do you not remember the meeting the night of the election (or perhaps his first inauguration) where the GOP met and decided to explicitly oppose everything he tried to do for no reason other than to oppose him? The spineless Dems certainly didn't help, but the obstruction of the GOP is and has been quite blatant.
Anyone remember how the first thing he was going to do was not only shutdown Gitmo, but get us out of Iraq? In fact, you could "take that to the bank"?
So you're argument over why he didn't get Gitmo done is he didn't get Gitmo done?
Remember how it was going to be the most transparent presidency, ever?
Yep and I'm just as pissed off about it as you.
Remember how Bush didn't need anyone to "let" him do anything, because he was the decider?
Remember how the Dems filibustered everything he tried to do? Oh wait, they didn't. They had the honor to 'lose' votes rather than choosing to simply avoid voting at all.
By what metric?