We're not talking just about code, we're talking about hardware. And we're not just talking about normal documentation, we're talking about documentation that is safe for public release, not releasing anything which is covered by NDAs, or third-party licenced technology which the company doesn't have the right to publicy reveal. Not to mention trade secrets.
You haven't even listened to the legal argument. Do you even work in the hardware industry? Do you have a single clue what you're talking about? Oh I forgot, this is Slashdot, where any logical and truthful argument whatsoever is cancelled out by some 15 year old screaming 'I want this therefore I should get it'.
What sort of user group are you talking about? I don't have the ability to make friends (at all), what is open-source work, what are you talking about? I'm not a computer programmer if that's what you're thinking.
I'm not taking medication. I'm not an American, I prefer to live naturally rather than swallowing a handful of pills every day. I'd rather just off myself. There are worse things than death, it's not a foregone conclusion that life MUST be lived at all costs. The way I see it, my life is miserable, it has no redeeming qualities, there's nothing to live for, and therefore not worth living.
I bought an ultra-cheap ticket, and got to Frankfurt with less than $55 in my pocket. I stayed in the youth hostel, and got myself a shit job in a garage the next day.
What's a youth hostel? And how do you get jobs when you don't speak the local language? For most jobs you need a bank account because they don't pay you cash in hand. And opening a bank account isn't the easiest thing in the world.
So I urge you: use your individuality, and your intelligence. Your anger makes me think that you have some social concience about other people who are less fortunate.
I don't have individuality, nor intelligence. If I had intelligence I'd have a proper job rather than shovelling shit. I don't have a social concience, the people less fortuanate are ME. I don't give a shit about anyone else.
The problem with learning by yourself, is you don't get a piece of paper which says you've learnt, which means you can't get a job.
Education at university ---> Good job. Education somewhere else ---> Burger flipping.
The interviewers don't care if you spend all your free time writing software, they care about you having a degree.
Steve Jobs, Bill Gates etc. are just flukes, they're not any cleverer or more innovative than anyone else, they're just lucky, and evil ruthless businessmen with no qualms about stealing.
Google engineering? I thought they were a programming company, do they engineer their own components as well?
As for the requirements, are you saying that Google publicly lies? Who would want to work for a company that lies to you and makes you jump through hoops?
I moved to Europe, traveled the world for almost 10 years, and then went back to school
How the hell do you afford to do that? I can barely afford to live in a shithole I'm from with a full-time job, let alone the costs of travelling. We don't all have the luxuries you obviously had.
You want success? Find out what you love, do it well, and wholeheartedly
What if you don't love anything? What if doing the thing you love doesn't pay, or you can only do it in some shitty low-paid job which barely pays enough to live in a one-room basement with no elecricity? On average without a degree you're going to earn less money. That's a fact.
Jobs and I are motivated by love of what we do.
Consultancy? I can't think of anything more empty and unlikeable and useless to society.
I never finished college (didn't like it, had severe depression and couldn't really do the course) and it has hurt me professionally, financially and emotionally. If I'd stayed and gotten a degree, I could have got a decent job. However now I have no qualifications, and have a soul-crushing dead-end manual labour job, no-one will employ me for anything else. This means I have no prospects, no money, and the complete mindlessness and futility of my job has destroyed all traces of my motivation is is driving me to suicide.
Seriously, unless you have a business which can make you a lot of money, or you have good connections, don't drop of of university. Unless you're extremely lucky (you're more likely to win the lottery than be the next Bill Gates, no matter how clever you are), it will just fuck you up.
A plumber with a Ph.D.? So be it. A truck driver with a couple of undergrad degrees? Sure.
You'll have a hard time convincing anyone to spend 4-8 years of their life studying and getting into 50-100k of debt just to get a job as a truck driver. Say a truck driver is paid 15k per year, he might not be able to pay off his debts for the rest of his life. A plumber would be better off learning plumbing and building up a plumbing business than throwing his money away getting a Phd in something irrelevent. If a truck driver is going to get a degree, then he may as well get one which can get him a proper job.
It's alright for you computer programmer types who get a degree and then use it to walk into a 60k job, but for people doing mindless menial work that doesn't pay much, going to university is financial suicide, an expensive luxury.
And if all the labourers should get degrees and qualifications, who's going to lay your bricks when all the brick layers decide to become lawyers? Who delivers your pizzas when all the pizza deliverers have quit to become accountants? Who stacks your shelves? Who guards you while you sleep?
A capitalist society only works if there is a gradient of qualifications, different classes of education: The educated and successful at the top, the uneducated failures at the bottom.
You are typically wasting your time/money to go to university if: - You just want to have a well paying job (some of my friends have a very good income without a university degree)
On average, someone with a degree earns a lot more than someone without a degree. Probably at least 10k per year. Also a lot of employers won't even listen to you if you don't have a degree, especially in the computer industry. Bear in mind the difference between exceptions and rules. For every Steve Jobs there are a million non-graduates flipping burgers.
- You want to have a good time... Hell you can do that a lot better NOT going to university, but just hanging out on the university complex... that way you have more money to spend (from doing a job in the daytime) and will always be available to party, because you don't have assignments that you hate anyway
Not necessarily. You won't get into any of the student bars or parties. Also you're not available to party if you're working Friday/Saturday night in your job, whereas students are free to do what they want. And you won't have more money to spend when you have bills and mortages to pay. Not to mention having to get up at 6am with a terrible hangover to go to work. A lot easier to get up later and go to sleep in a lecture because there's no boss to sack you.
One slight problem with dvorak keyboards: no fucker sells them. Where do you find them? Everywhere that sells keyboards doesn't sell dvoraks. Perhaps you could get one on ebay, but the chances are if you go to a normal shop to get a brand new fancy wireless keyboard with fancy extra keys and all that crap, it won't be dvorak.
And if you go to another computer, like in a computer lab, or someone else's house, or an Internet cafe, they're all qwerty, so now you're effectively crippled because you only know dvorak.
As for the 'switching keycaps', how on earth do you do this? How do you know where to put the letters? Where do you get the drivers? Do they work in the BIOS, or will I need to change all the keys around again (assuming I can remember them) everytime I want to change some settings?
A week of painfully slow typing could be enough to lose you your job if you have a job that requires typing, and if your job doesn't allow you to fuck about with the computers (i.e. installing drivers and tearing the keyboard to pieces), what do you do then?
I don't type very fast any way, and if something's going to fuck my wrists up it's probably going to be my job not my keyboard. It took me years to learn how to type without looking at the keys (and I still can't do numbers or symbols, and I often move fingers accross where I'm not supposed to which is really inefficient), are you saying I'm going to have to start all over again? And for what gain? I can already type faster than I think.
What about those of us who only have access to public machines? We don't all have home PCs and Internet access. You know you can't get the Internet at home without a credit card?
The ipod wasn't competing with an already-entrenched competitor.
You can't take a cheaper, more widely-available MP3 player and turn it into an ipod by putting ipod software on it.
If the Apple OS was any good and ran on common PC hardware, people would just run it on common PC hardware to save on the cost. For home PC hardware, aesthetics and ergonomics aren't as important as for a portable device.
With cheap PCs at $300 and the cheapest Mac hardware at $500 (with no monitor), Apple would be again aiming at the 'rich pretentious' market as they always do, but they are already doing that with normal Macs, and they've hardly conquered the market.
I for one would look forward to OSX on a common PC, just to discover whether all the hype is true.
I think that if you had managed to make money off copyright, your opinion might be changed. Personally I think the laws are fine as they stand. Fifty years is a good number. However I don't think there should be anything in it which controls how you use something privately, like the decss fiasco, or DMCA, that's all a bag of shit. As far as I'm concerned, once you've bought a CD or DVD, you have every right to use it with any hardware you want, and to make backups. But that right ends at your frontdoor, or your modem.
To the nearest percentage, 100% of people don't love their jobs. Does that mean they should all quit? Then who would administer your medication? Who are you to say how much money people should make?
And at 5-15%, that's more than enough to complete erase many businesses' margins. Unless all the takeaways are going to put up their prices* I can't see this thing taking off at all.
* As if they're not high enough already. 70p to have a small mushroom sliced up and put on my pizza? Fuck off.
So you're saying that you're mature because you make more money? That sounds like bullshit to me. $1,200 a month? That's more than a lot of people make. I know it's more than I make. It's not very mature to spend all your money on a house you don't need for the sake of 'growing up'. In fact I'd say that one of the factors of maturity is knowing how to look after your money.
You don't get a house, that's one less growth opportunity,
Please explain how having a house is a 'growth opportunity', unless you mean an opportunity to grow your debts. Why would a single person need a house, when a one-bedroom house would suffice? That's not a very mature use of your money.
Or, you could just press the eject button, like in any operating system where the user-interface is actually thought out, rather than randomly evolved and mutated like a 20-year old tree stump full of fungus.
You don't meet people in clubs. They're too loud to talk. And the girls are drenched in make-up and it's pitch black so you can't see what they look like anyway. They're places for vulgar shallow women and violent braindead men. Not to mention over-priced shitty drinks.
Xscreensaver isn't an actual screensaver, it just loads the screensaver. I hardly think that's much of any significance. Especially as screensavers aren't actually needed anymore. It's maybe as great a contribution as 'top' perhaps.
I always used the arrow keys, seems more natural as my fingers can rest on the keys and the bottom of the keyboard rather than having to have them suspended over the rest of the keys if I were using aswd or something. It's a hassle having to move your finger tips everytime you want to change direction, with the arrow keys you just press down with different parts of your finger which are already lying over the keys.
Then I use space for jump and control for shoot or something. Apparently some people use mice to shoot/aim, but I don't how I could do that because I'm right handed and not ambidextrous and can't control the direction keys with my left hand. You don't really need to aim anyway do you, isn't it automatic if you're facing in generally the right direction?
I think it was easier with something like Goldeneye where you use a controller, it's easier using a direction pad.
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We're not talking just about code, we're talking about hardware. And we're not just talking about normal documentation, we're talking about documentation that is safe for public release, not releasing anything which is covered by NDAs, or third-party licenced technology which the company doesn't have the right to publicy reveal. Not to mention trade secrets.
You haven't even listened to the legal argument. Do you even work in the hardware industry? Do you have a single clue what you're talking about? Oh I forgot, this is Slashdot, where any logical and truthful argument whatsoever is cancelled out by some 15 year old screaming 'I want this therefore I should get it'.
No, I'm English.
I'd rather be unhappy and ME, rather than happy and a zombie.
What sort of user group are you talking about? I don't have the ability to make friends (at all), what is open-source work, what are you talking about? I'm not a computer programmer if that's what you're thinking.
I'm not taking medication. I'm not an American, I prefer to live naturally rather than swallowing a handful of pills every day. I'd rather just off myself. There are worse things than death, it's not a foregone conclusion that life MUST be lived at all costs. The way I see it, my life is miserable, it has no redeeming qualities, there's nothing to live for, and therefore not worth living.
I bought an ultra-cheap ticket, and got to Frankfurt with less than $55 in my pocket. I stayed in the youth hostel, and got myself a shit job in a garage the next day.
What's a youth hostel? And how do you get jobs when you don't speak the local language? For most jobs you need a bank account because they don't pay you cash in hand. And opening a bank account isn't the easiest thing in the world.
So I urge you: use your individuality, and your intelligence. Your anger makes me think that you have some social concience about other people who are less fortunate.
I don't have individuality, nor intelligence. If I had intelligence I'd have a proper job rather than shovelling shit. I don't have a social concience, the people less fortuanate are ME. I don't give a shit about anyone else.
The problem with learning by yourself, is you don't get a piece of paper which says you've learnt, which means you can't get a job.
Education at university ---> Good job.
Education somewhere else ---> Burger flipping.
The interviewers don't care if you spend all your free time writing software, they care about you having a degree.
Steve Jobs, Bill Gates etc. are just flukes, they're not any cleverer or more innovative than anyone else, they're just lucky, and evil ruthless businessmen with no qualms about stealing.
Google engineering? I thought they were a programming company, do they engineer their own components as well?
As for the requirements, are you saying that Google publicly lies? Who would want to work for a company that lies to you and makes you jump through hoops?
I moved to Europe, traveled the world for almost 10 years, and then went back to school
How the hell do you afford to do that? I can barely afford to live in a shithole I'm from with a full-time job, let alone the costs of travelling. We don't all have the luxuries you obviously had.
You want success? Find out what you love, do it well, and wholeheartedly
What if you don't love anything? What if doing the thing you love doesn't pay, or you can only do it in some shitty low-paid job which barely pays enough to live in a one-room basement with no elecricity? On average without a degree you're going to earn less money. That's a fact.
Jobs and I are motivated by love of what we do.
Consultancy? I can't think of anything more empty and unlikeable and useless to society.
I never finished college (didn't like it, had severe depression and couldn't really do the course) and it has hurt me professionally, financially and emotionally. If I'd stayed and gotten a degree, I could have got a decent job. However now I have no qualifications, and have a soul-crushing dead-end manual labour job, no-one will employ me for anything else. This means I have no prospects, no money, and the complete mindlessness and futility of my job has destroyed all traces of my motivation is is driving me to suicide.
Seriously, unless you have a business which can make you a lot of money, or you have good connections, don't drop of of university. Unless you're extremely lucky (you're more likely to win the lottery than be the next Bill Gates, no matter how clever you are), it will just fuck you up.
Buy a fan.
Says who? And what does tidally locked mean?
A plumber with a Ph.D.? So be it. A truck driver with a couple of undergrad degrees? Sure.
You'll have a hard time convincing anyone to spend 4-8 years of their life studying and getting into 50-100k of debt just to get a job as a truck driver. Say a truck driver is paid 15k per year, he might not be able to pay off his debts for the rest of his life. A plumber would be better off learning plumbing and building up a plumbing business than throwing his money away getting a Phd in something irrelevent. If a truck driver is going to get a degree, then he may as well get one which can get him a proper job.
It's alright for you computer programmer types who get a degree and then use it to walk into a 60k job, but for people doing mindless menial work that doesn't pay much, going to university is financial suicide, an expensive luxury.
And if all the labourers should get degrees and qualifications, who's going to lay your bricks when all the brick layers decide to become lawyers? Who delivers your pizzas when all the pizza deliverers have quit to become accountants? Who stacks your shelves? Who guards you while you sleep?
A capitalist society only works if there is a gradient of qualifications, different classes of education: The educated and successful at the top, the uneducated failures at the bottom.
You are typically wasting your time/money to go to university if:
- You just want to have a well paying job (some of my friends have a very good income without a university degree)
On average, someone with a degree earns a lot more than someone without a degree. Probably at least 10k per year. Also a lot of employers won't even listen to you if you don't have a degree, especially in the computer industry. Bear in mind the difference between exceptions and rules. For every Steve Jobs there are a million non-graduates flipping burgers.
- You want to have a good time... Hell you can do that a lot better NOT going to university, but just hanging out on the university complex... that way you have more money to spend (from doing a job in the daytime) and will always be available to party, because you don't have assignments that you hate anyway
Not necessarily. You won't get into any of the student bars or parties. Also you're not available to party if you're working Friday/Saturday night in your job, whereas students are free to do what they want. And you won't have more money to spend when you have bills and mortages to pay. Not to mention having to get up at 6am with a terrible hangover to go to work. A lot easier to get up later and go to sleep in a lecture because there's no boss to sack you.
One slight problem with dvorak keyboards: no fucker sells them. Where do you find them? Everywhere that sells keyboards doesn't sell dvoraks. Perhaps you could get one on ebay, but the chances are if you go to a normal shop to get a brand new fancy wireless keyboard with fancy extra keys and all that crap, it won't be dvorak.
And if you go to another computer, like in a computer lab, or someone else's house, or an Internet cafe, they're all qwerty, so now you're effectively crippled because you only know dvorak.
As for the 'switching keycaps', how on earth do you do this? How do you know where to put the letters? Where do you get the drivers? Do they work in the BIOS, or will I need to change all the keys around again (assuming I can remember them) everytime I want to change some settings?
A week of painfully slow typing could be enough to lose you your job if you have a job that requires typing, and if your job doesn't allow you to fuck about with the computers (i.e. installing drivers and tearing the keyboard to pieces), what do you do then?
I don't type very fast any way, and if something's going to fuck my wrists up it's probably going to be my job not my keyboard. It took me years to learn how to type without looking at the keys (and I still can't do numbers or symbols, and I often move fingers accross where I'm not supposed to which is really inefficient), are you saying I'm going to have to start all over again? And for what gain? I can already type faster than I think.
What about those of us who only have access to public machines? We don't all have home PCs and Internet access. You know you can't get the Internet at home without a credit card?
The ipod wasn't competing with an already-entrenched competitor.
You can't take a cheaper, more widely-available MP3 player and turn it into an ipod by putting ipod software on it.
If the Apple OS was any good and ran on common PC hardware, people would just run it on common PC hardware to save on the cost. For home PC hardware, aesthetics and ergonomics aren't as important as for a portable device.
With cheap PCs at $300 and the cheapest Mac hardware at $500 (with no monitor), Apple would be again aiming at the 'rich pretentious' market as they always do, but they are already doing that with normal Macs, and they've hardly conquered the market.
I for one would look forward to OSX on a common PC, just to discover whether all the hype is true.
I think that if you had managed to make money off copyright, your opinion might be changed. Personally I think the laws are fine as they stand. Fifty years is a good number. However I don't think there should be anything in it which controls how you use something privately, like the decss fiasco, or DMCA, that's all a bag of shit. As far as I'm concerned, once you've bought a CD or DVD, you have every right to use it with any hardware you want, and to make backups. But that right ends at your frontdoor, or your modem.
To the nearest percentage, 100% of people don't love their jobs. Does that mean they should all quit? Then who would administer your medication? Who are you to say how much money people should make?
Profit begets greed. Greed begets envy. Envy begets hatered.
You sound like some sort of insane communist. Go and crawl back in your hole.
And at 5-15%, that's more than enough to complete erase many businesses' margins. Unless all the takeaways are going to put up their prices* I can't see this thing taking off at all.
* As if they're not high enough already. 70p to have a small mushroom sliced up and put on my pizza? Fuck off.
So you're saying that you're mature because you make more money? That sounds like bullshit to me. $1,200 a month? That's more than a lot of people make. I know it's more than I make. It's not very mature to spend all your money on a house you don't need for the sake of 'growing up'. In fact I'd say that one of the factors of maturity is knowing how to look after your money.
You don't get a house, that's one less growth opportunity,
Please explain how having a house is a 'growth opportunity', unless you mean an opportunity to grow your debts. Why would a single person need a house, when a one-bedroom house would suffice? That's not a very mature use of your money.
Or, you could just press the eject button, like in any operating system where the user-interface is actually thought out, rather than randomly evolved and mutated like a 20-year old tree stump full of fungus.
You don't meet people in clubs. They're too loud to talk. And the girls are drenched in make-up and it's pitch black so you can't see what they look like anyway. They're places for vulgar shallow women and violent braindead men. Not to mention over-priced shitty drinks.
Xscreensaver isn't an actual screensaver, it just loads the screensaver. I hardly think that's much of any significance. Especially as screensavers aren't actually needed anymore. It's maybe as great a contribution as 'top' perhaps.
I always used the arrow keys, seems more natural as my fingers can rest on the keys and the bottom of the keyboard rather than having to have them suspended over the rest of the keys if I were using aswd or something. It's a hassle having to move your finger tips everytime you want to change direction, with the arrow keys you just press down with different parts of your finger which are already lying over the keys.
Then I use space for jump and control for shoot or something. Apparently some people use mice to shoot/aim, but I don't how I could do that because I'm right handed and not ambidextrous and can't control the direction keys with my left hand. You don't really need to aim anyway do you, isn't it automatic if you're facing in generally the right direction?
I think it was easier with something like Goldeneye where you use a controller, it's easier using a direction pad.