Well, it's not like I have any reason to value your judgement. Seriously though, get some therapy.
While you're fantasizing in the closet, I'm doing the real thing.
Bet you thought that was going to be a real zinger, didn't you? Sorry, but sexual orientation is a non-issue for people who aren't carrying your childhood traumas around.
Wow, way to jump on my imprecise use of the phrase "couple of years".
I sneered at you kissing his butt.
How long have you had these homoerotic fantasies? Is that why you're such an angry little git, because your daddy used to make you feel bad for not being macho enough?
That piece of hardware was worth oh... let's see about $200,
Guess again. This happened around 1996, when a NeXT slab would still fetch about $1500. It also happened to be one of the machines that Doom was written on, so there's a good bit of collector value, too./me rolls eyes.
Wow, you're so cool. You know how to sneer at someone whose achievements before he was 25 exceeded anything you could do a couple hundred lifetimes.
I love X-plane. Of course, it gets me funny looks when I'm playing it while waiting for a flight. People in silly police-wannabe uniforms keep looking over my shoulder and asking if I've studied how to land it.
John Carmack has a very well-deserved reputation for generosity. A couple of years ago he gave one of his NeXT slabs to a friend of mine on a "free to good home" basis. He not only gave it to her, he paid for the shipping.
the economies of the Northern states in 1789 had nothing to do with slavery [wikipedia.org].
Well, that's not quite true. There were Northern owners of southern plantations, and the north also made a good bit of money on shipping slaves to the south, and shipping southern agricultural products (cultivated by slaves) to Europe.
The fable we're fed in school is that slavery was a sin of the south, and the civil war was a holy crusade to free the slaves. The truth is, the north had plenty of culpability for slavery, too.
Thus, the right to bear arms was in fact a concession to the South.
I'm sure that would come as a considerable surprise to the Vermont militia, who used their privately owned firearms to prevent federal troops from entering Vermont to enforce the Fugitive Slave Act. I would doubt that John Brown would agree with you, either.
She had every right to refuse until a parent or police officer was in attendance.
Every child should be taught the following phrase: "Fuck you, get a warrant. I don't consent to a search, and I'm not saying another word until I have a lawyer present."
Your argument was that the teachers needed to go to a "competant authority
Yes, because they were obviously incompetent themselves. The crime is the proof of their incompetence.
the teachers are the guardians of the children while they're in school,
That's not a license for molestation. In fact, it's an aggravating factor in the crime, when the perp is acting under color of authority.
I don't know who could go up to the female teachers who searched her 6 years ago, without touching her or getting her to take her clothes off, and call them child molesters.
. If your child has a bunch of pills scattered around it are you going to call a judge to see if you can get a warrant to see if it took any?
Wow, that's an impressive straw man you've built there, but it's preposterous. There was no indication at all that the victim in this case had taken any drugs.
Teachers should need to get warrants to stop children dealing drugs in school?
No, teachers should refer such a question to a competent authority instead of molesting children. Any judge, or anyone who passed the bar exam, or for that matter, anyone with two neurons to rub together would know that this search was out of line.
Those responsible deserve to be punished to the full extent of the law, and that does not include them being killed.
If the perps who molested the kid were on trial, I wouldn't vote for the death penalty. If a parent who had killed a child molestor was on trial, I'd vote to acquit. Are you able to parse the difference in these two situations?
I'd say it had more to do with the fact that the framers had recently overthrown their king with their privately-owned weapons, having thwarted several attempts by the crown to disarm them. When the British marched to Concord, their mission was to seize the gunpowder the Americans had stockpiled there.
Just how much medical knowledge do you expect school administrators to have, that they could judge which drugs are ok for which students?
When did I suggest that school officials should make that judgement? The question that they failed was the question of whether to molest a child on the basis of an extremely flimsy accusation.
Exactly. "Zero tolerance" is newspeak for "zero common sense." Anyone who isn't capable of applying their own judgement instead of blindly following a rule in a situation like this is far too stupid to have anything to teach a child.
Before you condemn the living shit out of the school district, try to remember that they have an affirmative responsibility to prevent students from harming themselves while in school.
Sorry, you're 100% full of shit. They failed in their responsibility to protect the children in their care, in case you didn't RTFA one of them got strip searched, for christ's sake.
I think it would be reasonable to argue a 4th ammendment violiation in this case.
It's not just an illegal search, it's a goddamned felony. If these assholes go free while someone like Charlie Lynch goes to jail, then the law in the USA is a complete joke.
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I just think you're a tool. No offense.
Well, it's not like I have any reason to value your judgement. Seriously though, get some therapy.
While you're fantasizing in the closet, I'm doing the real thing.
Bet you thought that was going to be a real zinger, didn't you? Sorry, but sexual orientation is a non-issue for people who aren't carrying your childhood traumas around.
-jcr
I'm not generous,
Indeed, you'd even begrudge someone acknowledgement for their generosity. What a lot of friends you must have.
-jcr
Wow, way to jump on my imprecise use of the phrase "couple of years".
I sneered at you kissing his butt.
How long have you had these homoerotic fantasies? Is that why you're such an angry little git, because your daddy used to make you feel bad for not being macho enough?
Get some therapy. You don't have to be this way.
-jcr
That piece of hardware was worth oh... let's see about $200,
Guess again. This happened around 1996, when a NeXT slab would still fetch about $1500. It also happened to be one of the machines that Doom was written on, so there's a good bit of collector value, too. /me rolls eyes.
Wow, you're so cool. You know how to sneer at someone whose achievements before he was 25 exceeded anything you could do a couple hundred lifetimes.
-jcr
I love X-plane. Of course, it gets me funny looks when I'm playing it while waiting for a flight. People in silly police-wannabe uniforms keep looking over my shoulder and asking if I've studied how to land it.
-jcr
on the eighth day, he kicked Chuck Norris' ass.
-jcr
Hang on, the weapons the French used to give you a country were owned by the French government :)
France's contribution was mostly the provision of naval support.
-jcr
John Carmack has a very well-deserved reputation for generosity. A couple of years ago he gave one of his NeXT slabs to a friend of mine on a "free to good home" basis. He not only gave it to her, he paid for the shipping.
-jcr
the economies of the Northern states in 1789 had nothing to do with slavery [wikipedia.org].
Well, that's not quite true. There were Northern owners of southern plantations, and the north also made a good bit of money on shipping slaves to the south, and shipping southern agricultural products (cultivated by slaves) to Europe.
The fable we're fed in school is that slavery was a sin of the south, and the civil war was a holy crusade to free the slaves. The truth is, the north had plenty of culpability for slavery, too.
-jcr
Thus, the right to bear arms was in fact a concession to the South.
I'm sure that would come as a considerable surprise to the Vermont militia, who used their privately owned firearms to prevent federal troops from entering Vermont to enforce the Fugitive Slave Act. I would doubt that John Brown would agree with you, either.
-jcr
She had every right to refuse until a parent or police officer was in attendance.
Every child should be taught the following phrase: "Fuck you, get a warrant. I don't consent to a search, and I'm not saying another word until I have a lawyer present."
-jcr
Your argument was that the teachers needed to go to a "competant authority
Yes, because they were obviously incompetent themselves. The crime is the proof of their incompetence.
the teachers are the guardians of the children while they're in school,
That's not a license for molestation. In fact, it's an aggravating factor in the crime, when the perp is acting under color of authority.
I don't know who could go up to the female teachers who searched her 6 years ago, without touching her or getting her to take her clothes off, and call them child molesters.
RTFA. They ordered her to undress.
-jcr
. If your child has a bunch of pills scattered around it are you going to call a judge to see if you can get a warrant to see if it took any?
Wow, that's an impressive straw man you've built there, but it's preposterous. There was no indication at all that the victim in this case had taken any drugs.
-jcr
I would exempt at least two congressmen from that tally, and there may be others.
-jcr
Teachers should need to get warrants to stop children dealing drugs in school?
No, teachers should refer such a question to a competent authority instead of molesting children. Any judge, or anyone who passed the bar exam, or for that matter, anyone with two neurons to rub together would know that this search was out of line.
-jcr
I hope you're right, but after cases like Kelo v. New London, I don't have a whole lot of faith in the supreme court lately.
-jcr
Those responsible deserve to be punished to the full extent of the law, and that does not include them being killed.
If the perps who molested the kid were on trial, I wouldn't vote for the death penalty. If a parent who had killed a child molestor was on trial, I'd vote to acquit. Are you able to parse the difference in these two situations?
-jcr
But as a practical matter, it was about slavery.
I'd say it had more to do with the fact that the framers had recently overthrown their king with their privately-owned weapons, having thwarted several attempts by the crown to disarm them. When the British marched to Concord, their mission was to seize the gunpowder the Americans had stockpiled there.
-jcr
Yeah, that was a great talk. School employees everywhere would do well to watch it.
-jcr
Just how much medical knowledge do you expect school administrators to have, that they could judge which drugs are ok for which students?
When did I suggest that school officials should make that judgement? The question that they failed was the question of whether to molest a child on the basis of an extremely flimsy accusation.
-jcr
I can tell you, honestly, if this had been my child I would have been seeing red. I would have damaged those people.
Jane,
I wish every child had a mother who was prepared to defend them like you are.
-jcr
The problem is the "zero tolerance" mentality.
Exactly. "Zero tolerance" is newspeak for "zero common sense." Anyone who isn't capable of applying their own judgement instead of blindly following a rule in a situation like this is far too stupid to have anything to teach a child.
-jcr
Before you condemn the living shit out of the school district, try to remember that they have an affirmative responsibility to prevent students from harming themselves while in school.
Sorry, you're 100% full of shit. They failed in their responsibility to protect the children in their care, in case you didn't RTFA one of them got strip searched, for christ's sake.
-jcr
I wonder if the court would have upheld the 13-year old's right to strenously kick school officials in the balls for forcibly removing her clothing?
I know that if her parents had beaten the perps to death, and I were on their jury, I'd vote to acquit them.
-jcr
I think it would be reasonable to argue a 4th ammendment violiation in this case.
It's not just an illegal search, it's a goddamned felony. If these assholes go free while someone like Charlie Lynch goes to jail, then the law in the USA is a complete joke.
-jcr