Your account is typical of those I heard from other developers at the Apple developer conference this year. The iPhone made life a lot better for users, but what it did for developers is beyond compare.
Granted it's been about 5 years since I did cellphone development, but back then every phone was different and required tweaking or custom support, and each vendor had their own Java API.
I have a friend who runs a PR firm catering to the mobile apps industry, and they've all told him that they plan on their iPhone products being the bulk of their revenues by the middle of 2010, and putting all their other versions into maintenance mode. The development costs for the other smart phones aren't worth it between the different APIs per vendor and different UI and menu layouts, etc, that vary per carrier.
You go to great lengths to deny the truth that confronts you.
You go to great lengths to insist that your opinions are facts.
I know first-hand that Apple would prefer to do away with DRM if they could do so and stay in business. Your claim that Apple is lying when they say so, leaves you with the burden of proof.
just like every other hardware/software manufacturer does.
So, in your world, businesses never go belly-up? Sorry to break it to you, but I could go from here to the opposite wall with names of computer hardware and software companies that didn't make it. Apple was very nearly one of them, back when they were allowing other companies to make Mac clones.
I was bitching about Apple lying to look good./I
You have yet to show an example of Apple lying. Try again.
No one is forcing them to put DRM on Mac OS, they choose to do it.
Sure, they could choose go out of business and take comfort in gaining your approval. As a shareholder, I'd be filing a lawsuit against Apple management if they did so.
Apple's use of DRM is in no way required to turn a profit.
Wishing doesn't make it so, sunshine. Apple doesn't have the luxury that MS does of getting paid for every unit out the door, whether there's an OS installed on it or not.
the perceived problem in flash appeared to be its inefficiency.
I'd have to say that seeing Flash_enforceLocalSecurity() in the backtrace just about every time Safari crashes would be a somewhat bigger factor in Apple's rejection of Flash.
Any claim they don't like DRM is pure, unmitigated bullshit.
I've been there, I know some of the people who had to implement it, and I can tell you from direct personal knowledge that you are wrong. Apple doesn't like DRM, and neither does any other hardware maker. Just ask any of the companies that shipped "plays for sure" Windows Media DRM how that worked out.
Apple puts DRM in their flagship product, and you actually believe them when they spout bullshit about disliking DRM?
I believe any hardware maker when they say the don't like DRM. It's tedious to implement, it's expensive, it wastes battery time, and it annoys customers. The only reason anyone implements it is to placate the **AA.
We have NOT seen a true communist government anywhere yet,
Yes we have. We just haven't seen one that delivers what the communists and their apologists promise. True communism is the destruction of individuals for the collective. It's stupid, it's evil, and so is anyone who supports it.
In an attempt to keep things simple (based on your post you need it)
Fuck you too, sunshine.
I know the differences in their rhetoric, I'm talking about what they do, not what they say.
You see, the USSR was communist in name only.
Bullshit. The USSR slaughtered people by the millions to terrorize their people into obeying the state, just like every other communist regime. That line of propaganda about "Oh, but they're not the REAL communists! REAL communism is good!" was already threadbare when the New York Times was running Walter Duranty's pro-Stalin propaganda.
That of course is even more disturbing. Being a snitch should be enough to keep anyone out of parliament. Being a full-time thug should have landed that asshole behind bars for the rest of his life.
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Your account is typical of those I heard from other developers at the Apple developer conference this year. The iPhone made life a lot better for users, but what it did for developers is beyond compare.
-jcr
they could develop on Java ME and have it run everywhere else without having to pay the faggot tax with false hopes of winning the lottery.
Please let me know if you ever start a business, so that I can advise people against investing in it.
-jcr
Imagine writing once and being able to run on dozens of different handsets across several networks.
Oh, imagine it by all means! Just don't expect to actually get it. Does the phrase "write once, run anywhere" ring a bell?
It will be far more attractive for developers than a single, proprietary platform like the iPhone.
Want to bet?
-jcr
Granted it's been about 5 years since I did cellphone development, but back then every phone was different and required tweaking or custom support, and each vendor had their own Java API.
I have a friend who runs a PR firm catering to the mobile apps industry, and they've all told him that they plan on their iPhone products being the bulk of their revenues by the middle of 2010, and putting all their other versions into maintenance mode. The development costs for the other smart phones aren't worth it between the different APIs per vendor and different UI and menu layouts, etc, that vary per carrier.
The iPhone totally changed the game.
-jcr
There is no market for innovative games in the cell phone market.
I beg to differ.
-jcr
Sorry to hear it, man. Hope you can find a better gig soon.
-jcr
So does Flash.
-jcr
You go to great lengths to deny the truth that confronts you.
You go to great lengths to insist that your opinions are facts.
I know first-hand that Apple would prefer to do away with DRM if they could do so and stay in business. Your claim that Apple is lying when they say so, leaves you with the burden of proof.
-jcr
If you are seriously prepared to claim that Apple isn't lying when they claim to dislike DRM,
I've BEEN THERE, asshole. I worked at Apple for three and a half years. I know what I'm talking about, and you're making shit up.
-jcr
Apple could get by just fine if they sold their OS and hardware separately.
I'd rather not gamble on your wishful thinking, thanks.
If you aren't willing to call companies out on their bullshit,
I do it all the time. What I don't do, is make shit up to bitch about as you're doing.
-jcr
just like every other hardware/software manufacturer does.
So, in your world, businesses never go belly-up? Sorry to break it to you, but I could go from here to the opposite wall with names of computer hardware and software companies that didn't make it. Apple was very nearly one of them, back when they were allowing other companies to make Mac clones.
I was bitching about Apple lying to look good./I
You have yet to show an example of Apple lying. Try again.
-jcr
No one is forcing them to put DRM on Mac OS, they choose to do it.
Sure, they could choose go out of business and take comfort in gaining your approval. As a shareholder, I'd be filing a lawsuit against Apple management if they did so.
-jcr
Apple's use of DRM is in no way required to turn a profit.
Wishing doesn't make it so, sunshine. Apple doesn't have the luxury that MS does of getting paid for every unit out the door, whether there's an OS installed on it or not.
their proclaimed dislike of DRM is hypocrisy.
Grow up.
-jcr
Do the words "fiduciary duty" mean anything to you?
Didn't think so, but I figured I'd ask anyway.
-jcr
the perceived problem in flash appeared to be its inefficiency.
I'd have to say that seeing Flash_enforceLocalSecurity() in the backtrace just about every time Safari crashes would be a somewhat bigger factor in Apple's rejection of Flash.
-jcr
Any claim they don't like DRM is pure, unmitigated bullshit.
I've been there, I know some of the people who had to implement it, and I can tell you from direct personal knowledge that you are wrong. Apple doesn't like DRM, and neither does any other hardware maker. Just ask any of the companies that shipped "plays for sure" Windows Media DRM how that worked out.
-jcr
Apple has been making a killing off selling DRM'd music for years.
Yeah, and they've also been making quite a bit selling non-DRM music since May of '07.
Any claim that they implemented the DRM because they like it is pure, unmitigated bullshit.
I concur, but try telling it to the "blame everyone in sight" anti-DRM zealots.
They did it because that was the only way for them to make money selling music.
It used to be the only way, but it's not anymore. You can thank Apple for convincing EMI to try out non-DRM sales.
-jcr
Apple puts DRM in their flagship product, and you actually believe them when they spout bullshit about disliking DRM?
I believe any hardware maker when they say the don't like DRM. It's tedious to implement, it's expensive, it wastes battery time, and it annoys customers. The only reason anyone implements it is to placate the **AA.
-jcr
Anyone with half a clue who is a developer makes their stuff on something more cross-platform friendly....bsd or unix.
That may be, but many of us who have a full clue are developing products for the Mac or the iPhone.
-jcr
We have NOT seen a true communist government anywhere yet,
Yes we have. We just haven't seen one that delivers what the communists and their apologists promise. True communism is the destruction of individuals for the collective. It's stupid, it's evil, and so is anyone who supports it.
-jcr
In an attempt to keep things simple (based on your post you need it)
Fuck you too, sunshine.
I know the differences in their rhetoric, I'm talking about what they do, not what they say.
You see, the USSR was communist in name only.
Bullshit. The USSR slaughtered people by the millions to terrorize their people into obeying the state, just like every other communist regime. That line of propaganda about "Oh, but they're not the REAL communists! REAL communism is good!" was already threadbare when the New York Times was running Walter Duranty's pro-Stalin propaganda.
-jcr
Fascists are pinkos. They differ from communists only in matters of rhetorical style.
-jcr
You can say it to a cop or a judge in any country on earth. The question is whether they'll beat you up or kill you for doing so.
-jcr
So you're saying that Bush and the Republicans are left-wing?
Let's see... Massive new domestic entitlement program? Check. Nationalization of the finance industry? Check. Suppression of civil lberties? Check.
Yeah, Bush is a pinko.
-jcr
I stand corrected.
That of course is even more disturbing. Being a snitch should be enough to keep anyone out of parliament. Being a full-time thug should have landed that asshole behind bars for the rest of his life.
-jcr