If you think that, you don't know what you're talking about.
Dude, this is something that you're going to have to get a lid on if you ever want to bring someone around to your point of view. Maybe he knows what he's talking about, and has come to a different conclusion than you have. Maybe he reads more varied sources than you do. You don't know or care if he does, you just want to rip into him.
If we really are in danger from human-induced global warming, you're not helping. So, get off your high-horse, and try to make a reasoned argument instead of just working yourself into a complete snit. Are you concerned about the environment, or are you just enjoying your assumed moral superiority?
That's why there are agricultural subsidies - because there's no demand for certain types of foods.
Nonsense. There are agricultural subsidies because it's easier for politicians to hand out our money than for people to deal with changes in the market. There's certainly plenty of demand for Milk, peanuts, tobbacco, and every other crop that's subsidized.
He has other assets he could sell or he could have gotten a low interest loan to cover the taxes till his Disney stock was released.
Why don't you send him your resume, and apply to be his financial advisor?
-jcr
Re:Jobs sold 300 Million USD of Apple stock
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why didn't he sell his Disney stock instead?
Probably because he doesn't have any Disney stock, and won't until the Pixar buyout closes. He's also prevented from selling his Pixar shares in the meantime.
No, Spindler was asleep while the company went truly to hell.
Whatever he was, he certainly wasn't asleep.
What he got from Sculley was a company where every first-line manager did whatever they damn well pleased. Apple was unmanageable, and the stress of trying to keep it alive nearly killed him. He didn't get a lid on it, Amelio didn't get a lid on it, and frankly, nobody could have until the company was on the brink.
Steve didn't fire nearly as many people as the pundits would have you believe, and nearly all the people he did fire should have been shown the door many years earlier.
You also might be interested to know that quite a number of jobs are excluded from "independent contractor status" [state.ma.us], specifically because employers use them to get around having to pay social security taxes, benefits, etc.
BULLSHIT.
Those exclusions are a deal that the larger body-shops made with their congresscum to make life more difficult for independent contractors. Instead of contracting with an engineer directly for a short-term software development gig, it's "safer" to get them through an outfit like Andersen Consulting (no, I won't use that stupid name they came up with to try to live down the Enron scandal).
Before these asswipes decided to "protect" me, I had no trouble at all working as a sole proprietor. Since about the mid-80s, it's been necessary to have a corporation, pay an accountant, a lawyer, etc, etc.
If I want to work as an independent contractor, that should be between me and the customer. FUCK Daniel Patrick Moynihan, AGS/Nynex and IBM Global Services.
-jcr
So, this is what Windows is good for?
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If a formerly Apple-hostile IT department did permit Mac purchases because the Mac could run Windows, it would also insist that the Mac only be used to run Windows - it would probably insist on having OS X removed entirely, in fact.
Once the machine's in the user's posession, it's a different story. Anyone running Linux at work, for example, is typically running it on a box that came with Windows.
But the question then is - does Apple continue to pour money into OS X, or could Gates and Ballmer be ameanable to making the modifications needed to make Windows Vista the next Macintosh OS?
The better question is: having blown about ten billion dollars in direct costs (and maybe as much as fifty billion in opportunity costs) on the biggest failed development project in history, and having had to try to save face by hastily throwing together XP SP4 and pretending that it's actually Longhorn, despite having dropped all the features that were supposed to make it worth a six-year wait, does it make any sense for MS to do it all again, or should they buy a working OS from a vendor who can actually ship updates on a schedule?
Longwind was MS's answer to the Copland project, only it's been far, far worse. They've only got one viable alternative to a rerun of the disaster of the last six years, and that's to swallow their pride (which they never had in the first place), and cough up about five billion dollars to license OS X. That's a bargain, compared to letting their horiffically incompetent management screw the pooch again. They could hire InfoSys to get.NET going on it, so as not to outrage all the suckers who've bought into their half-assed Java knock-off to date. Then, they just need to run XP in a penalty box which they could call "windows classic", and ship it. For the first time in their history, they'll be able to offer a reliable, securable OS. (They could have done it with Cutler's Last VMS, but their managment fucked that up beyond all hope of repair.)
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If you think that, you don't know what you're talking about.
Dude, this is something that you're going to have to get a lid on if you ever want to bring someone around to your point of view. Maybe he knows what he's talking about, and has come to a different conclusion than you have. Maybe he reads more varied sources than you do. You don't know or care if he does, you just want to rip into him.
If we really are in danger from human-induced global warming, you're not helping. So, get off your high-horse, and try to make a reasoned argument instead of just working yourself into a complete snit. Are you concerned about the environment, or are you just enjoying your assumed moral superiority?
-jcr
That's why there are agricultural subsidies - because there's no demand for certain types of foods.
Nonsense. There are agricultural subsidies because it's easier for politicians to hand out our money than for people to deal with changes in the market. There's certainly plenty of demand for Milk, peanuts, tobbacco, and every other crop that's subsidized.
-jcr
"Luck" has nothing to do with it.
Well then, hats off to you for all the hard work you do to keep your NT systems malware-free. I don't have that kind of time on my hands.
-jcr
I don't think there's any such thing as an "unmanageable" company.
Yeah, there is, but most of them don't survive. Apple was able to do so because of the huge margins they were making on the Mac.
-jcr
Ignore the spammers, nail the companies having their products/ services advertised by the spammers.
Why do you assume that it's an either/or proposition?
-jcr
He has other assets he could sell or he could have gotten a low interest loan to cover the taxes till his Disney stock was released.
Why don't you send him your resume, and apply to be his financial advisor?
-jcr
why didn't he sell his Disney stock instead?
Probably because he doesn't have any Disney stock, and won't until the Pixar buyout closes. He's also prevented from selling his Pixar shares in the meantime.
-jcr
Under Jobs, Apple has only once, in the most recent quarter, surpassed Gil Amelio's revenue record.
It's much easier to have high revenues than record profits. I'll take Jobs over Amelio any day of the week.
-jcr
No, Spindler was asleep while the company went truly to hell.
Whatever he was, he certainly wasn't asleep.
What he got from Sculley was a company where every first-line manager did whatever they damn well pleased. Apple was unmanageable, and the stress of trying to keep it alive nearly killed him. He didn't get a lid on it, Amelio didn't get a lid on it, and frankly, nobody could have until the company was on the brink.
Steve didn't fire nearly as many people as the pundits would have you believe, and nearly all the people he did fire should have been shown the door many years earlier.
-jcr
You also might be interested to know that quite a number of jobs are excluded from "independent contractor status" [state.ma.us], specifically because employers use them to get around having to pay social security taxes, benefits, etc.
BULLSHIT.
Those exclusions are a deal that the larger body-shops made with their congresscum to make life more difficult for independent contractors. Instead of contracting with an engineer directly for a short-term software development gig, it's "safer" to get them through an outfit like Andersen Consulting (no, I won't use that stupid name they came up with to try to live down the Enron scandal).
Before these asswipes decided to "protect" me, I had no trouble at all working as a sole proprietor. Since about the mid-80s, it's been necessary to have a corporation, pay an accountant, a lawyer, etc, etc.
If I want to work as an independent contractor, that should be between me and the customer. FUCK Daniel Patrick Moynihan, AGS/Nynex and IBM Global Services.
-jcr
Makes a dandy game loader, just like DOS did. ;-)
-jcr
It would have been much easier to write it as a pure Windows app rather than using Quicktime to do a fake OS X look.
You really think so, huh?
-jcr
That's a myth, frankly.
A "myth" that Microsoft has admitted to?
Try again.
-jcr
10 years of running NT without a single virus or other malware infection, uptimes regularly measured in months
Congratulations on your very good fortune. Tens of millions of other NT users haven't been so lucky.
-jcr
fucking stop with the "-jcr"
Request denied.
it's insulting that we can't look up a few lines to see who wrote the comment.
It still surprises me sometimes what people come up with when looking for a reason to be offended. Try to work it out in therapy.
-jcr
Windows NT is already reliable and securable.
From this statement, I can only conclude that your standards are very low, indeed.
-jcr
Who is "peace keeping" in Afghanistan now that the US has finished bombarding it?
Mostly US and Afghan troops. Next question?
-jcr
The bottom will fall out of the Mac hardware market the day Mac OS X is EOL'd.
Why would you have such low expectations for Mac OS XI ?
-jcr
have you ever met steve?
Hasn't everybody?
-jcr
If a formerly Apple-hostile IT department did permit Mac purchases because the Mac could run Windows, it would also insist that the Mac only be used to run Windows - it would probably insist on having OS X removed entirely, in fact.
Once the machine's in the user's posession, it's a different story. Anyone running Linux at work, for example, is typically running it on a box that came with Windows.
-jcr
It doesn't look like it's "failed".
Yes, it did. They threw out hundreds of man-years of work.
Vista is based upon an entirely different development fork to XP.
I guess you missed the news about the rollback to the Windows Server 2003 codebase.
Amazing what two months delay for Vista can do for the reasoning ability of Apple apologists.
Dude, Vista isn't two months late, it's six years late. Two months is just the very latest in a very long list of slips.
-jcr
Why would you actually want to run Linux
I wouldn't know, I don't use it.
-jcr
But the question then is - does Apple continue to pour money into OS X, or could Gates and Ballmer be ameanable to making the modifications needed to make Windows Vista the next Macintosh OS?
.NET going on it, so as not to outrage all the suckers who've bought into their half-assed Java knock-off to date. Then, they just need to run XP in a penalty box which they could call "windows classic", and ship it. For the first time in their history, they'll be able to offer a reliable, securable OS. (They could have done it with Cutler's Last VMS, but their managment fucked that up beyond all hope of repair.)
The better question is: having blown about ten billion dollars in direct costs (and maybe as much as fifty billion in opportunity costs) on the biggest failed development project in history, and having had to try to save face by hastily throwing together XP SP4 and pretending that it's actually Longhorn, despite having dropped all the features that were supposed to make it worth a six-year wait, does it make any sense for MS to do it all again, or should they buy a working OS from a vendor who can actually ship updates on a schedule?
Longwind was MS's answer to the Copland project, only it's been far, far worse. They've only got one viable alternative to a rerun of the disaster of the last six years, and that's to swallow their pride (which they never had in the first place), and cough up about five billion dollars to license OS X. That's a bargain, compared to letting their horiffically incompetent management screw the pooch again. They could hire InfoSys to get
-jcr
This isn't about Apple "switching to Windows" or becoming yet another Windows PC manufacturer. In fact, it's the furthest thing from it.
Exactly. It's all about dropping a barrier to entry, just like when Apple shipped X11 a couple of years ago.
This move will get Apple many more hardware sales by removing a bludgeon that IT departments routinely use to veto Mac purchases.
-jcr
Yeah, twelve grand could probably buy him half a dozen of those black turtlenecks, at least.
-jcr