Not being a collective, the only outrage I have ever experienced has been individual outrage.
You would bitch and moan to no end that Microsoft was not playing fair.
Don't try to tell me what I would do in a hypothetical situation. I bash MS when they commit crimes, not when they merely pursue legal business strategies.
Hell, no. Apple made a deal to buy all the drives they could make. They placed a big enough order that Toshiba brought up a second factory just for those drives. Nobody put a gun to Toshiba's head, and if someone else wanted to buy those drives, so what? Every deal has two sides, and if Toshiba would rather deal with a single customer for the first year (or more), that's their prerogative.
That while every other large coorperation will lie, cheat, and steal to get ahead -- Apple is somehow different.
Show me an example of Apple lying, cheating or stealing, cause this isn't it.
I cannot impress this point strongly enough: You sir, are scum, and you should kill yourself immedietly to make the world a better place.
Oh, come on! The guy offers a service to people who give him their money willingly. You can't be a golden-ear wanker without people to take your money and stroke your ego. It may not be a job that you or I would be willing to do, but that doesn't mean that nobody should do it.
Now, if you want to argue that his customers should be strongly encouraged not to reproduce for the good of the species, I'll raise no objection.
I'll just point out that many other companies had already shipped displays that had 1:1 pixel aspect ratios. Scion corporation sold a 640x480 graphics card for the IBM PC in 1982.
You can pick a Medeco lock, too, but that's not a reason to just use rubber bands to hold your front door closed. Right now, it's trivial to commit fraud, and it should be difficult.
I remember where I was living when I heard about Avid telling their customers to get off the Mac, and that places it at the end of 97. This was just about when Apple shares were bottoming out, and only people who thought they'd survive were old NeXT customers like me.
I was there, chief.
I don't doubt that, but it really doesn't bear on when Avid was telling their customers that Apple was dead. I still don't see FCP as a case of Apple eating a developer.
I may have been off on the timing of the official announcement, but in 1997 I was hearing about Avid reps telling all their customers that they had to move to NT. One friend of mine asked his Avid salesman about compatibility with the Mac, and was told "nobody has to be compatible with the Mac anymore". This customer replied: "YOU have to be compatible with your INSTALLED BASE, asshole."
The point is, Apple wasn't "eating a developer" here. FCP was a reaction to Avid's push to take customers from the Mac to NT.
However, they keep insisting on eating their developers
FCP exists because Avid announced their intention to abandon the Mac platform.
It's true that Apple is selling piles of gear for Maya, but it's a fraction of what moves on the Windows platform.
It's a big fraction, and it's mostly new business for Maya.
-jcr
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Umm.. The problem with your scenario is that you're ignoring how FCP is eating Premiere and Avid's lunch. Apple's selling enormous FCP/Xsan/Shake/Xserve/SXserve raid packages every day. As for Maya, Autodesk is in business to make money, not to throw away huge revenue streams just to spite Steve Jobs. Maya will stay on the Mac, unless Apple ships an app that tops it.
They inherited the mediocrity franchise from IBM, and used that leverage to kill Lotus, WordPerfect, etc. Look at a situation where they really do have to compete (game consoles, for example), and you'll see that their marketing no better than average. If you look at their "Plays For Sure" campaign, which the public already knows means "doesn't work with the most popular music player or online music store", you see incompetence.
If MS really did "excel at marketing", they wouldn't have had such a struggle to get their customers to Windows 2000 or XP.
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Hey, I'll sell you all the thousand-dollar power cables you want. How many do you need?
-jcr
your collective outrage would know no bounds.
Not being a collective, the only outrage I have ever experienced has been individual outrage.
You would bitch and moan to no end that Microsoft was not playing fair.
Don't try to tell me what I would do in a hypothetical situation. I bash MS when they commit crimes, not when they merely pursue legal business strategies.
-jcr
Of course they are, but in a good way. ;-)
-jcr
...for RFID-killers. Shouldn't need more than a watt or so at the right frequency to kill the chip.
-jcr
God Forbid.
-jcr
Also worth checking out: Twisted. I haven't had occasion to use it myself, but people I know swear by it.
-jcr
Dirty? Hell yeah.
Hell, no. Apple made a deal to buy all the drives they could make. They placed a big enough order that Toshiba brought up a second factory just for those drives. Nobody put a gun to Toshiba's head, and if someone else wanted to buy those drives, so what? Every deal has two sides, and if Toshiba would rather deal with a single customer for the first year (or more), that's their prerogative.
That while every other large coorperation will lie, cheat, and steal to get ahead -- Apple is somehow different.
Show me an example of Apple lying, cheating or stealing, cause this isn't it.
-jcr
I cannot impress this point strongly enough: You sir, are scum, and you should kill yourself immedietly to make the world a better place.
Oh, come on! The guy offers a service to people who give him their money willingly. You can't be a golden-ear wanker without people to take your money and stroke your ego. It may not be a job that you or I would be willing to do, but that doesn't mean that nobody should do it.
Now, if you want to argue that his customers should be strongly encouraged not to reproduce for the good of the species, I'll raise no objection.
-jcr
Do you also sell new clothes to emperors?
-jcr
I'll just point out that many other companies had already shipped displays that had 1:1 pixel aspect ratios. Scion corporation sold a 640x480 graphics card for the IBM PC in 1982.
-jcr
They also had integrated filters as well.
What do you think a couple of RF chokes are worth?
I'll give you a hint: think much less than a thousand dollars.
-jcr
true audiophiles will not accept them.
Do you mean true audiophiles, or the clowns who buy power cables for a grand?
-jcr
Umm.... shouldn't audio be down at the Ethernet level?
-jcr
A machine with Windows installed is damaged goods. Of course it's cheaper.
-jcr
You can pick a Medeco lock, too, but that's not a reason to just use rubber bands to hold your front door closed. Right now, it's trivial to commit fraud, and it should be difficult.
-jcr
1997? I don't think so.
I remember where I was living when I heard about Avid telling their customers to get off the Mac, and that places it at the end of 97. This was just about when Apple shares were bottoming out, and only people who thought they'd survive were old NeXT customers like me.
I was there, chief.
I don't doubt that, but it really doesn't bear on when Avid was telling their customers that Apple was dead. I still don't see FCP as a case of Apple eating a developer.
-jcr
Actually, you're incorrect.
I may have been off on the timing of the official announcement, but in 1997 I was hearing about Avid reps telling all their customers that they had to move to NT. One friend of mine asked his Avid salesman about compatibility with the Mac, and was told "nobody has to be compatible with the Mac anymore". This customer replied: "YOU have to be compatible with your INSTALLED BASE, asshole."
The point is, Apple wasn't "eating a developer" here. FCP was a reaction to Avid's push to take customers from the Mac to NT.
-jcr
However, they keep insisting on eating their developers
FCP exists because Avid announced their intention to abandon the Mac platform.
It's true that Apple is selling piles of gear for Maya, but it's a fraction of what moves on the Windows platform.
It's a big fraction, and it's mostly new business for Maya.
-jcr
Umm.. The problem with your scenario is that you're ignoring how FCP is eating Premiere and Avid's lunch. Apple's selling enormous FCP/Xsan/Shake/Xserve/SXserve raid packages every day. As for Maya, Autodesk is in business to make money, not to throw away huge revenue streams just to spite Steve Jobs. Maya will stay on the Mac, unless Apple ships an app that tops it.
-jcr
The perps aren't sniping anymore, they're blowing themselves apart with dynamite.
-jcr
Mussolini was evil, but not for making the trains run on time.
Truth to tell, Mossolini didn't make the trains run on time. He just said that he did, and locked up anyone who said different.
-jcr
Haven't the perps all switched to much softer targets by now?
If they still want to attack airplanes, they'll do it with shoulder-launched missles, like they tried in Kenya right after 9/11.
-jcr
The FSM can kick Cthulhu's ass. Think Zeus v. Chronos.
-jcr
Where Microsoft do excel is in marketing.
No, they don't.
They inherited the mediocrity franchise from IBM, and used that leverage to kill Lotus, WordPerfect, etc. Look at a situation where they really do have to compete (game consoles, for example), and you'll see that their marketing no better than average. If you look at their "Plays For Sure" campaign, which the public already knows means "doesn't work with the most popular music player or online music store", you see incompetence.
If MS really did "excel at marketing", they wouldn't have had such a struggle to get their customers to Windows 2000 or XP.
-jcr
Oh, I'm sure the pickle/cancer correlation is much lower. Cancer is found throughout the world, but pickles aren't.
-jcr