I love how slashdot helps the little guy. 80,000+ hits on this story will be bad advertising for corporates decision. I wonder if they think that decision was cost effective now..
The American public is sure to do this, and is sure to cause an accident. With 80,000 slashdot hits, this is sure to cause a liability. When I was in 8th grade I made a stun gun, at that age I was not able to comprehend the potential for permanent eye damage. I would pull this article.
The extra video clips at the end of the movie "Super Size Me" hit the nail right on the head. They show a community where the citizens really value quality Physical Education. They have Video Games like Dance Dance revolution, motor cycle racing games that make you pedal, as well as other key changes to the curriculum that allow people who aren't star athletes to experience success.
The real problem here is with our culture. PE teachers have gotten a bad rap. When I was a kid, coaches with no child training background going into to Teaching PE. The kids who didn't know how to use their motor skills yet, would screw up and the kids who's parents put them in little league would laugh at them and the "Coach" PE teacher would do the same. Properly trained PE teachers are specialists and have Masters Degrees and understand that in order for kids to exercise and stick with it over a lifetime, they need to experience success. If you don't do it this way, you do it the way that most of America does it, then you get the overweight kids who don't experience success and sit on the fence and the kids that don't need the training are making the problem worse picking on the kids that can't or won't try physical activity.
You can solve the problem by trying to spend all the money on drugs, and you'll see TV as we have it to day where diet pills are everywhere.
You can solve the problem by dumping tons of money into health care where we try to patch up all the overweight disorders people have. Then you'll get random things like this Topic where people say, "WOW we are spending billions on health insurance to pay for this problem, maybe we should pass it on to the people who contribute to the problem." That's not really a solution either.
The real solution is to get the kids young let them experience success exercising, show them the way to take care of their bodies, and hire specialized PE teachers who are not going to be considered the Lowest of the Low after Math, Reading, Science, Social studies, etc.
We need to get rid of the notion: "After we teach the kids all these other subjects, and if they haven't died of a heart attack, then we teach them Physical Education."
In my city, Middle Schools have kids doing PE every other day. They think teaching a middle schooler French, is just as important as teaching them Physical Education and how to take care of their body. That notion has to change if we are going stop seeing thread topics about overweight people getting charged for being overweight through health insurance.
-Jeff
There is nothing discriminating about this. If you are costing the system more and there are steps you can take to prevent it, then you can pay for that privilege. This is the same with car insurance, same with medical coverage, you want the privilege to be a high risk group, well you should pay for it. I'm surprised that this hasn't happened sooner with smokers. Now I don't think something like a genetic disorder or a disability should be treated this way. There was nothing you could do to prevent that and or bad things happen.
If you look at just routing 12 volts everywhere, you just would have to put the regulators in the hard drives, and CDROMS so they don't need 3.3 and 5 volts. Then what do you do about +5 Stanby that allows you to hibernate? Do you still need a stand by voltage? It isn't and easy answer and will take the whole industry to adopt it. Checkout formfactors.org for ATX and BTX specifications that Intel is pushing.
What's also interesting is the 600 and 700, etc Watt power supplies just keep their 3.3 and 5 volts at around 30 amps max, but keep adding +12V1 +12V2 +12V3, etc.. Looks like the industry is already going to mostly 12 volts for distribution anyway. But don't you still need PS_ON, PowerOK, etc.. You're just trying to phase out the +5 and +3.3, and -12 which hardly any motherboards use these days, and maybe the +5 Standby, then it's going to happen eventually anyway.
Most of the power is going on the 12 volt lines anyway, so having inefficient +3.3 and +5 isn't really a big deal. I've studied this for a while as my big hobby is computers in cars, I built a power supply called DSX12V that takes a 8-16 volt input and makes a solid 12v output that I got over 97% efficiency on. This is good for people sticking computers in cars or running them off banks of batteries for solar power applications etc.
For your 12 volt battery that can vary more than 10% as it discharges, you'll need something like what I have designed for use in cars. Some motherboard makers already make computers that run on 12 volts. The Commell LV-673NS Pentium M Mini-ITX Mainboard already runs on 12 volts (+- 5%), and then if you use the Mpegbox DSX12V which is 95+ efficient, then it can run off a battery or in a car.
Yaa parts can cost a lot. I make a controller that lets you use the stuff you already have, and all you have to buy is a 20 dollar inverter. Check out my site at www.mpegbox.com. Also, the M1-ATX has problems as stated by the fourms on www.mp3car.com
I had 4Mbits/Sec service before Excite Tanked. Now I get the crummy 1.5 and I don't pay any less. In fact they jacked the price on that too!
More money, less bandwidth, same crappy customer service. That is why it is bad.
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I love how slashdot helps the little guy. 80,000+ hits on this story will be bad advertising for corporates decision. I wonder if they think that decision was cost effective now..
The American public is sure to do this, and is sure to cause an accident. With 80,000 slashdot hits, this is sure to cause a liability. When I was in 8th grade I made a stun gun, at that age I was not able to comprehend the potential for permanent eye damage. I would pull this article.
The extra video clips at the end of the movie "Super Size Me" hit the nail right on the head. They show a community where the citizens really value quality Physical Education. They have Video Games like Dance Dance revolution, motor cycle racing games that make you pedal, as well as other key changes to the curriculum that allow people who aren't star athletes to experience success. The real problem here is with our culture. PE teachers have gotten a bad rap. When I was a kid, coaches with no child training background going into to Teaching PE. The kids who didn't know how to use their motor skills yet, would screw up and the kids who's parents put them in little league would laugh at them and the "Coach" PE teacher would do the same. Properly trained PE teachers are specialists and have Masters Degrees and understand that in order for kids to exercise and stick with it over a lifetime, they need to experience success. If you don't do it this way, you do it the way that most of America does it, then you get the overweight kids who don't experience success and sit on the fence and the kids that don't need the training are making the problem worse picking on the kids that can't or won't try physical activity. You can solve the problem by trying to spend all the money on drugs, and you'll see TV as we have it to day where diet pills are everywhere. You can solve the problem by dumping tons of money into health care where we try to patch up all the overweight disorders people have. Then you'll get random things like this Topic where people say, "WOW we are spending billions on health insurance to pay for this problem, maybe we should pass it on to the people who contribute to the problem." That's not really a solution either. The real solution is to get the kids young let them experience success exercising, show them the way to take care of their bodies, and hire specialized PE teachers who are not going to be considered the Lowest of the Low after Math, Reading, Science, Social studies, etc. We need to get rid of the notion: "After we teach the kids all these other subjects, and if they haven't died of a heart attack, then we teach them Physical Education." In my city, Middle Schools have kids doing PE every other day. They think teaching a middle schooler French, is just as important as teaching them Physical Education and how to take care of their body. That notion has to change if we are going stop seeing thread topics about overweight people getting charged for being overweight through health insurance. -Jeff
There is nothing discriminating about this. If you are costing the system more and there are steps you can take to prevent it, then you can pay for that privilege. This is the same with car insurance, same with medical coverage, you want the privilege to be a high risk group, well you should pay for it. I'm surprised that this hasn't happened sooner with smokers. Now I don't think something like a genetic disorder or a disability should be treated this way. There was nothing you could do to prevent that and or bad things happen.
If you look at just routing 12 volts everywhere, you just would have to put the regulators in the hard drives, and CDROMS so they don't need 3.3 and 5 volts. Then what do you do about +5 Stanby that allows you to hibernate? Do you still need a stand by voltage? It isn't and easy answer and will take the whole industry to adopt it. Checkout formfactors.org for ATX and BTX specifications that Intel is pushing. What's also interesting is the 600 and 700, etc Watt power supplies just keep their 3.3 and 5 volts at around 30 amps max, but keep adding +12V1 +12V2 +12V3, etc.. Looks like the industry is already going to mostly 12 volts for distribution anyway. But don't you still need PS_ON, PowerOK, etc.. You're just trying to phase out the +5 and +3.3, and -12 which hardly any motherboards use these days, and maybe the +5 Standby, then it's going to happen eventually anyway. Most of the power is going on the 12 volt lines anyway, so having inefficient +3.3 and +5 isn't really a big deal. I've studied this for a while as my big hobby is computers in cars, I built a power supply called DSX12V that takes a 8-16 volt input and makes a solid 12v output that I got over 97% efficiency on. This is good for people sticking computers in cars or running them off banks of batteries for solar power applications etc.
For your 12 volt battery that can vary more than 10% as it discharges, you'll need something like what I have designed for use in cars. Some motherboard makers already make computers that run on 12 volts. The Commell LV-673NS Pentium M Mini-ITX Mainboard already runs on 12 volts (+- 5%), and then if you use the Mpegbox DSX12V which is 95+ efficient, then it can run off a battery or in a car.
Yaa parts can cost a lot. I make a controller that lets you use the stuff you already have, and all you have to buy is a 20 dollar inverter. Check out my site at www.mpegbox.com. Also, the M1-ATX has problems as stated by the fourms on www.mp3car.com
I had 4Mbits/Sec service before Excite Tanked. Now I get the crummy 1.5 and I don't pay any less. In fact they jacked the price on that too! More money, less bandwidth, same crappy customer service. That is why it is bad.