Opera hasn't force Microsoft at all. They don't have the power to do anything of the sorts.
Microsoft suggested the ballot screen, not Opera.
So if you don't like the ballot screen, blame Microsoft for breaking the law, and then proposing the ballot screen in order to avoid fines from the EU.
It's great. The amount of PR from this must have exceeded Opera's wildest dreams. If it's rejected, I suspect the Opera people will wet themselves with excitement over even more massive PR.
Money couldn't buy this kind of PR. A rejection would more than pay for the development of an iPhone version with the amount of PR alone.
Opera never sued anyone. All they did was, with support from several other companies (including Google and Mozilla), to report to the authorities that Microsoft was breaking the law. That was the extent of their involvement.
The ballot screen was Microsoft's own idea.
So to assume that Opera will sue anyone is just madness. They never sued anyone. All they did was to ask the government to look into Microsoft's anti-competitive practices. And Google, Mozilla and several other companies supported the case.
You are assuming that Opera is logging everything you do, but they would be in violation with their own principles then, and of course the extremely harsh privacy laws in Norway.
Of course Opera doesn't know that Apple won't approve it. They have explained very clearly why they don't think it violates any guidelines for the App Store. Again you are making completely nonsensical assumptions.
And yes, Opera is indeed the most used web browser on mobile phones. Those 50 million users are just the ones who installed it directly from Opera. Opera is also bundled on hundreds of mobile phone every year.
Apple may have sold 50 million handsets, but all those phones are not still in use. Millions of them have simply bought a newer iPhone. And you can't assume that all of them browse the web. On the other han, 50 million is the actual number of active Opera Mini users.
How are PR stunts like these "disingenuous"? Where were you when Apple lied in their ads?
Opera Mini violates the core principles of the web? That's just a laughable claim, considering Opera's track record.
Opera brought desktop-class browsing to phones before WebKit even existed.
If anyone is a hypocrite here, it is you. An ignorant hypocrite. Apple fanboy much?
You are trying to appeal to people's egotism by picking your neighbor, thus getting them to forget about all the people who are in trouble because of things they can't control in the first place.
Further, why should I have to buy something I don't want? Are you next going to force me to go to a store and buy something to keep the store alive?
Yeah, why keep people alive? Just shoot sick people and save money!
In the meantime, there are thousands of medical school instructors who are calling it quits and other physicians who are leaving the profession with decades of experience.
This is of course pure and utter BS. There's no reaso why they would quit. Just more insane scare mongering from right-wing fucktards.
Hey, you fucking moron... You are not "the people". "The people" voted for Obama and his health care plan.
So shut the fuck up. I'm getting sick and tired of teabaggers and other right-wing fucktards going on about how they, as a minority, represent the majority.
And if you it was easy to just overturning it just like that, do you really think it would have become law in the first place? No, you can bet on your constitution dildo that Obama knows what he's doing.
No, "experiment" implies that it is an experiment. Experiments are things you do to see how things work out. I'm pretty sure Mozilla Labs also makes it clear that experiments won't necessarily make it into the main product. Just like Ubiquity didn't, but some of the things they learned from that will.
The point is that it's not build into the browser. It's experimental. And optional. They are also not implementing Ubiquity, but rather using what they learned there to improve the browser.
There are no reliable statistics. They have all been shown to be false. My information is from Google and Opera. They can count the number of users because browsers nowadays check for updates automatically with regular intervals.
Actually, what the statistics show differs. What's interesting, though, is that Opera caches a lot more aggressively than other browsers, so thanks for reminding me of yet another huge source of problem for the stats services! You see, if Opera downloads the same content more rarely than other browsers, it will obviously be under-counted.
So no, the excuse that "less people browsed more" does not hold water, especially since most Opera users are "advanced", and likely browse a lot more than your average Joe.
Who do you think are the ones with an internet connection in Eastern Europe? Oh, right, the people who have money! Which means that they are far from profitless. And why do you think companies like Google, Microsoft, etc. all want to get into non-Western markets? Because they are in fact growing quickly, and profits are soaring.
Regardless, my point was that the claim that Opera has a tiny user base is a blatant lie. You can of course spew nonsense and red herrings like you just did, but that does not change the fact that you are nothing but a sad, pathetic little liar:)
As for why people care about Opera... Why do they care about other browsers? Why do you care what other people care about? Personal issues, it seems.
It's too bad that those stats are completely unreliable. StatCounter reported a higher market share for Chrome when Chrome had 30 million users and Opera had 40 million users, and they are supposed to get it right this time? Hah. These stats sites clearly have a huge problem detecting Opera properly.
Microsoft suggested the ballot screen, not Opera.
So if you don't like the ballot screen, blame Microsoft for breaking the law, and then proposing the ballot screen in order to avoid fines from the EU.
I doubt it. They sound pretty convinced that they aren't violating any terms for the App Store.
They obviously looked at the terms first, and now think they are in compliance, which is why it was submitted.
Money couldn't buy this kind of PR. A rejection would more than pay for the development of an iPhone version with the amount of PR alone.
It's a win-win situation for Opera.
Opera never sued anyone. All they did was, with support from several other companies (including Google and Mozilla), to report to the authorities that Microsoft was breaking the law. That was the extent of their involvement.
The ballot screen was Microsoft's own idea.
So to assume that Opera will sue anyone is just madness. They never sued anyone. All they did was to ask the government to look into Microsoft's anti-competitive practices. And Google, Mozilla and several other companies supported the case.
You are assuming that Opera is logging everything you do, but they would be in violation with their own principles then, and of course the extremely harsh privacy laws in Norway.
Of course Opera doesn't know that Apple won't approve it. They have explained very clearly why they don't think it violates any guidelines for the App Store. Again you are making completely nonsensical assumptions.
And yes, Opera is indeed the most used web browser on mobile phones. Those 50 million users are just the ones who installed it directly from Opera. Opera is also bundled on hundreds of mobile phone every year.
Apple may have sold 50 million handsets, but all those phones are not still in use. Millions of them have simply bought a newer iPhone. And you can't assume that all of them browse the web. On the other han, 50 million is the actual number of active Opera Mini users.
How are PR stunts like these "disingenuous"? Where were you when Apple lied in their ads?
Opera Mini violates the core principles of the web? That's just a laughable claim, considering Opera's track record.
Opera brought desktop-class browsing to phones before WebKit even existed.
If anyone is a hypocrite here, it is you. An ignorant hypocrite. Apple fanboy much?
The core of your freedom is to let people who can't help themselves die! I get it.
No you won't. If you can't afford it, you will get support to cover it. Why do right-wing fucktards always lie?
No, they will not throw you in prison if you are struggling to pay. You right-wing assholes need to stop spewing these lies.
You are trying to appeal to people's egotism by picking your neighbor, thus getting them to forget about all the people who are in trouble because of things they can't control in the first place.
Yeah, why keep people alive? Just shoot sick people and save money!
This is of course pure and utter BS. There's no reaso why they would quit. Just more insane scare mongering from right-wing fucktards.
Hey, you fucking moron... You are not "the people". "The people" voted for Obama and his health care plan.
So shut the fuck up. I'm getting sick and tired of teabaggers and other right-wing fucktards going on about how they, as a minority, represent the majority.
Unpopular? Among right-wing fascists, perhaps.
And if you it was easy to just overturning it just like that, do you really think it would have become law in the first place? No, you can bet on your constitution dildo that Obama knows what he's doing.
There is a lot of money in browsers, and anyone who dominates the browser market gets a lot of power in the market.
You obviously haven't tried Opera 10.51 then.
No, "experiment" implies that it is an experiment. Experiments are things you do to see how things work out. I'm pretty sure Mozilla Labs also makes it clear that experiments won't necessarily make it into the main product. Just like Ubiquity didn't, but some of the things they learned from that will.
What part of "optional experiment" is it that you do not understand?
The point is that it's not build into the browser. It's experimental. And optional. They are also not implementing Ubiquity, but rather using what they learned there to improve the browser.
Seriously, did you not notice the fact that this is not only an optional extension, but it is also experimental? You know, like Ubiquity.
Opera is at the forefront of new web standards as well.
Actually, what the statistics show differs. What's interesting, though, is that Opera caches a lot more aggressively than other browsers, so thanks for reminding me of yet another huge source of problem for the stats services! You see, if Opera downloads the same content more rarely than other browsers, it will obviously be under-counted.
So no, the excuse that "less people browsed more" does not hold water, especially since most Opera users are "advanced", and likely browse a lot more than your average Joe.
Regardless, my point was that the claim that Opera has a tiny user base is a blatant lie. You can of course spew nonsense and red herrings like you just did, but that does not change the fact that you are nothing but a sad, pathetic little liar :)
As for why people care about Opera... Why do they care about other browsers? Why do you care what other people care about? Personal issues, it seems.
WebKit superior? LOL.
Can't say I have noticed any bad bugs. It's stable and works well. Funny how all the negative comments are from ACs...
Why would they do that? The Wii doesn't have a monopoly. Weird with all these ACs parrting pro-Microsoft talking points...
It's too bad that those stats are completely unreliable. StatCounter reported a higher market share for Chrome when Chrome had 30 million users and Opera had 40 million users, and they are supposed to get it right this time? Hah. These stats sites clearly have a huge problem detecting Opera properly.