I think you're full of it. Microsoft is a key committed member of the CSS WG and continue to work in good faith helping the group.
Yeah, that must be why people were getting out of the CSS WG because of Microsoft's behavior: 1, 2, 3, 4
Since you're big on the whole standards thing, you might like to know that IE8 is the only fully CSS 2.1 standards compliant browser at the moment.
Nope. That is a blatant lie if I ever saw one.
With regard to ECMAScript4, Microsoft had some fundamental differences with whether it was worth expanding the language considering the legacy baggage and the need to add modern scripting features.
Actually, ECMAScript 4 was seen as a threat against Silverlight: 1, 2
The Mac version is being converted to Cocoa, a massive undertaking because it changes many fundamental ways Opera works. The Unix version is ditching Qt completely and will support both Qt and GTK styling. Once more, massive changes. The Windows version, on the other hand, was just about adding glass capabilities, which is trivial in comparison.
I always admired them for delivering a quality browser simultaneously for most platforms and this time they failed at that
They quite clearly explained that this was because the Linux and Mac versions were undergoing much bigger changes than the Windows version. And they will be faster and better integrated as a result. How is that a "fail"?
Actually, Opera Mini does not support JavaScript. That is, it does support it, but the JS handling is done by the server. The Mini client is just a dumb, thin client which doesn't really do much. It certainly doesn't execute code on the phone or anything. It's more like a picture viewer than a browser, I suppose you could say.
The iPhone has 10-15% market share in the "smartphone market". In the general mobile phone market, it has less than 1% I think. Feature phones still massively outsell smartphones.
It's flamebait because it's factually wrong, and basically trolling.
Opera never "whined". All they did was to report Microsoft's violations to the EU. That's it. And if Opera is "whining", then so is Google. And Mozilla. Both of them joined the complaint.
Also, Opera's business is doing just great. Opera hasn't gotten a single dime from Microsoft, as they never actually sued them.
And the most retarded thing of all is to claim that Opera is around because of the EU. First of all, Norway is not a member of the EU, and secondly, most of Opera's revenue is not from desktop browsers. They are doing great on mobile phones and devices. Opera is actually the dominant mobile phone browser, with a market share around 30% or so.
You need to face the fact that you are spewing nonsense and FUD. The EU case has so far given Opera ZERO income. They have not made a single dime from it. In fact, if they had their lawyers work on it, they have probably spent quite a bit of money on the case.
What's wrong with people? Is it inconceivable that Opera simply ported the browser to the iPhone (see their cross-platform UI announcements and stuff - that makes it easy to port browsers), and now they are announcing it before they submit it to the App Store to make it impossible for Apple to reject it in secret?
What's all the crap about "leverage"? Opera is leveraging the market to put pressure on Apple, because if Apple rejects it, the market will definitely notice.
That conspiracy theory is just crazy. Opera isn't looking to change the laws and rules. All they are doing is to drum up PR to make it impossible for Apple to reject the application in secret. Opera is using the market to influence Apple. Quite the opposite of involving the authorities. If they wanted to do that, they would have done it ages ago.
Opera didn't "deal with" anything with the help of EU. All they did was to report Microsoft's violations to the authorities, and the authorities took it from there. It was actually Microsoft that suggested the browser ballot as well.
There's no reason for Opera to get the authorities involved here because Apple didn't break the law. Opera only reported Microsoft as a last resort after many years of trying other ways to stop their anti-competitive practices had failed.
Opera is tiny compared to Apple. How is Opera the bully? All Opera has done is to make an iPhone version, and announce that they are showing it off in a few days, and that they will submit it to the App Store. And since it's all in public Apple can't just reject them quietly.
This is more like the little guy calling out the bully in public, and if the bully continues the bullying everyone will see it.
That they have an version that actually works, and that they are showing off in a few days. This is to attract press and partners to their booth, presumably. And they probably hope that the publicity forces Apple to accept the app.
Opera is based in Norway and has offices in the US. Norway has some of the strictes privacy laws in the world. I would less worried about the servers being in Norway than in the US, to put it that way...
Yes, Microsoft is a monopoly because it has a monopoly in the market, not just over its own products. Also, Microsoft wasn't forced. They made the ballot suggestion themselves.
It is nowhere to be found under the "Press Service Announcements" menu. It's found under "News Archive", on page 384. The "News Archive" seems to be a list of articles in the news mentioning NAS, not announcements from NAS itself.
What articles on the site are critical of AGW? The ones automatically gathered from news sources rather than announcements from NAS itself?
The first link has no actual sources for its claim that the Russian National Academy of Sciences rejects AGW. And Wikipedia in fact states that all of the national academies of science of the major industrialized countries accept AGW (and specifically lists it here). And here is the joint statement which shows the Russian National Academy of Sciences as part of the official list.
The other two links are nothing but political opinion pieces. Just because some right-winger in Russia doesn't like AGW doesn't mean that Russia (or Russian scientists) officially rejects it.
Actually, the fact that Opera has to spend far too much time emulating bugs in other browsers in order to work is not Opera's fault at all. That said, Opera is one of the most standards-compliant browsers there is, so that's clearly not the issue here. In this case it's apparently browser sniffing, or the author decided to rely on bugs in specific implementations rather than following the standards.
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What's wrong with the CSS implementation?
Yeah, that must be why people were getting out of the CSS WG because of Microsoft's behavior: 1, 2, 3, 4
Nope. That is a blatant lie if I ever saw one.
Actually, ECMAScript 4 was seen as a threat against Silverlight: 1, 2
The Mac version is being converted to Cocoa, a massive undertaking because it changes many fundamental ways Opera works. The Unix version is ditching Qt completely and will support both Qt and GTK styling. Once more, massive changes. The Windows version, on the other hand, was just about adding glass capabilities, which is trivial in comparison.
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They quite clearly explained that this was because the Linux and Mac versions were undergoing much bigger changes than the Windows version. And they will be faster and better integrated as a result. How is that a "fail"?
Grudges? Microsoft is doing evil shit today. The company has a history of breaking the law, then lying about it.
As was Spotify. And many other approved apps. Next!
Not really. They are just alternative UIs for the existing Safari browser.
Actually, Opera Mini does not support JavaScript. That is, it does support it, but the JS handling is done by the server. The Mini client is just a dumb, thin client which doesn't really do much. It certainly doesn't execute code on the phone or anything. It's more like a picture viewer than a browser, I suppose you could say.
MP3 players? Does the iPod Nano have a browser?
Once again? Opera didn't use the EU. They reported Microsoft's crimes, and that's it. It was Microsoft's suggestion to add a browser ballot in Europe.
Opera never "whined". All they did was to report Microsoft's violations to the EU. That's it. And if Opera is "whining", then so is Google. And Mozilla. Both of them joined the complaint.
Also, Opera's business is doing just great. Opera hasn't gotten a single dime from Microsoft, as they never actually sued them.
And the most retarded thing of all is to claim that Opera is around because of the EU. First of all, Norway is not a member of the EU, and secondly, most of Opera's revenue is not from desktop browsers. They are doing great on mobile phones and devices. Opera is actually the dominant mobile phone browser, with a market share around 30% or so.
You need to face the fact that you are spewing nonsense and FUD. The EU case has so far given Opera ZERO income. They have not made a single dime from it. In fact, if they had their lawyers work on it, they have probably spent quite a bit of money on the case.
What's all the crap about "leverage"? Opera is leveraging the market to put pressure on Apple, because if Apple rejects it, the market will definitely notice.
That conspiracy theory is just crazy. Opera isn't looking to change the laws and rules. All they are doing is to drum up PR to make it impossible for Apple to reject the application in secret. Opera is using the market to influence Apple. Quite the opposite of involving the authorities. If they wanted to do that, they would have done it ages ago.
There's no reason for Opera to get the authorities involved here because Apple didn't break the law. Opera only reported Microsoft as a last resort after many years of trying other ways to stop their anti-competitive practices had failed.
This is more like the little guy calling out the bully in public, and if the bully continues the bullying everyone will see it.
That they have an version that actually works, and that they are showing off in a few days. This is to attract press and partners to their booth, presumably. And they probably hope that the publicity forces Apple to accept the app.
Opera is based in Norway and has offices in the US. Norway has some of the strictes privacy laws in the world. I would less worried about the servers being in Norway than in the US, to put it that way...
Apple does not have a market monopoly. MS did and does.
Yes, Microsoft is a monopoly because it has a monopoly in the market, not just over its own products. Also, Microsoft wasn't forced. They made the ballot suggestion themselves.
It is nowhere to be found under the "Press Service Announcements" menu. It's found under "News Archive", on page 384. The "News Archive" seems to be a list of articles in the news mentioning NAS, not announcements from NAS itself.
What articles on the site are critical of AGW? The ones automatically gathered from news sources rather than announcements from NAS itself?
The other two links are nothing but political opinion pieces. Just because some right-winger in Russia doesn't like AGW doesn't mean that Russia (or Russian scientists) officially rejects it.
Really? Got a couple of recent examples?
Actually, it seems to be about irrelevant information. Android just happens to be irrelevant to the iPhone App Store.
Actually, the fact that Opera has to spend far too much time emulating bugs in other browsers in order to work is not Opera's fault at all. That said, Opera is one of the most standards-compliant browsers there is, so that's clearly not the issue here. In this case it's apparently browser sniffing, or the author decided to rely on bugs in specific implementations rather than following the standards.