The article at cdmediaworld.com says: The key2Audio work on most CD Readers but on a few (more expensive) readers they fail to work.
Now this is funny - I mean, they not only stop people listening to the cd on their PC, but they also stop people who care enough - and have enough money to spend - to buy an expensive cd-player from playing it. It must be worthless.
There are products which claim to do this, especially pseudo3D-television devices, but those offerings are bogus! - You can't get 3D out of thin air[...]
Did you see their address? Global Headquarters:
Deep Video Imaging Ltd. (New Zealand) Airport Road Mystery Creek RD2 Hamilton New Zealand
Now I wouldn't put my savings in a bank on Crook's Road or trust a company on Mystery Creek to come with err... magic products.:)
It's not about ducks and ostriches, it's about how for example Microsoft (and this is really an example, no m$ bashing today) specifies in the shrink-wrap license that everything under the (so called) contract will be judged under some American jurisdiction. Why not extend the courtesy to foreign companies selling software in the US...?
Well, a lot of other countries would like to do the same, and Saudi Arabia and China come to mind first; even the french... But nobody has the resources and the drive to actually do it; the "drive" being a huge legal system that already governs the american society at home and the money to push the right laws (DMCA, SSSCA) and the right people (guess who...) in order to make this move possible (from domestic to international domination).
Atually, they should. But everything started with arresting the guy who allegedly wrote the software, keeping him in jail and on bail for 4 months until he agrees to testify... I've heard of killers walking because of smaller procedural errors.
On what grounds does elcomsoft qualify for consitutional rights? I mean, it's not a US citizen or a US corporation>
The most important thing is that it's not an american corporation; at the current pace of things, soon being a US citizen won't give you any consitutional rights, except to be screwed by the aforementioned corporations. Big time.
Putting a server in the US is a calculated risk mostly because the US are the only country that have the means, the time and the drive to come after you anywhere.
if you are doing something the US does (or may in the near future) consider illegal.
This is even worse... imagine you're coding something that's perfectly acceptable and legal today. If it's deemed illegal next year, would you be still punishable? If it's not software and DMCA, the answer is definitely NO.
But if it is, is at best "maybe"; this whole thing looks really bad now but maybe it's just me.
They were dragged into this, and their lawyers are american... don't idealize this,keep it in perspective: it's mostly an american fight with the russians as innocent bystanders or, in the worst case, collateral damage.
even though the activity transpired over the Internet the United States still has jurisdiction.
This is definitely not good news. It means basically that you could even get extradited to be tried in the U.S. if they so request. Not particularly good news for a lot of people starting with Amsterdam's pr0n industry to the Norwegian DECSS guy...
So it looks like Alan Cox was overreacting: you don't have to avoid going to the States, the'll come after you if they really want. Not funny at all.
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Which uk mirror? It seems to me that no mirror has 3.0 yet... Or you were downloading 2.2.2?
"This is a victory for consumers, small business and the Internet as a whole, [...]"
This surely means something is fishy - I mean, DMCA was the last consumer victory and we're still reeling.
I don't know about you, but I'm cautious every time I hear about consumer (or shareholder, sometimes) victories: the battles are invariably lost one way or another.
Long before September 11 and last year's virus-like attacks over the Internet, the United States government announced plans to train an elite corps of computer security experts [...]
Oh come on, do you really beleive that? Or that freenet, anonymizer and all the other anonimizing services abruptly invoked "pre-9/11" decisions to cut their services? And RSA/NAI dropping PGP?
Jeez, I'm not wearing my tinfoil hat right now, but you must have your head burried 4 feet in the sand...
It's also true that in academia there are a lot of what we would call "toy problems" because they are of such a small scope that they don't solve a real world problem yet.
Oh, then M$ must be the greatest academic institution in existance, filling word and excel with so many useless features that won't solve a real world problem ever...
I agree M$ hides "strategic" pieces of software and tries to make them hard or next-to-impossible to uninstall; even Outlook Express - which was previously removable via Add/remove software is nowdays "a vital part of the operating system" (and yes, you actually can get rid of it: here - also C't magazine had a HOWTO for this - in german).
But unfortunately what you say about companies caught lying in court is just wishful thinking: these days, the corporations have more rights than an individual. Money talks, basicly.:(
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Good points. I had no idea about this. :)
Looks like the Netherlands is the place to live in a couple of years.
The article at cdmediaworld.com says:
The key2Audio work on most CD Readers but on a few (more expensive) readers they fail to work.
Now this is funny - I mean, they not only stop people listening to the cd on their PC, but they also stop people who care enough - and have enough money to spend - to buy an expensive cd-player from playing it. It must be worthless.
There are products which claim to do this, especially pseudo3D-television devices, but those offerings are bogus! - You can't get 3D out of thin air[...]
:)
Did you see their address? Global Headquarters:
Deep Video Imaging Ltd. (New Zealand)
Airport Road
Mystery Creek RD2
Hamilton
New Zealand
Now I wouldn't put my savings in a bank on Crook's Road or trust a company on Mystery Creek to come with err... magic products.
Basically it reads "nobody owns the Internet, but the Internet can't be a 'free' zone - so we have jurisdiction". No further comments, indeed.
True. But he was just the first, and this is the first trial test of the DMCA.
Who knows what will be tomorrow?
It's not about ducks and ostriches, it's about how for example Microsoft (and this is really an example, no m$ bashing today) specifies in the shrink-wrap license that everything under the (so called) contract will be judged under some American jurisdiction. Why not extend the courtesy to foreign companies selling software in the US...?
US jurisdiction everywhere, but not vice versa
Well, a lot of other countries would like to do the same, and Saudi Arabia and China come to mind first; even the french... But nobody has the resources and the drive to actually do it; the "drive" being a huge legal system that already governs the american society at home and the money to push the right laws (DMCA, SSSCA) and the right people (guess who...) in order to make this move possible (from domestic to international domination).
perl.com has Exegesis 4 from the Damian, in repsonse to Larry's latest Apocalypse[...]
:)
This sounds like chinese to me. What the hell... maybe I'm reding the wrong section...
Atually, they should. But everything started with arresting the guy who allegedly wrote the software, keeping him in jail and on bail for 4 months until he agrees to testify... I've heard of killers walking because of smaller procedural errors.
On what grounds does elcomsoft qualify for consitutional rights? I mean, it's not a US citizen or a US corporation>
The most important thing is that it's not an american corporation; at the current pace of things, soon being a US citizen won't give you any consitutional rights, except to be screwed by the aforementioned corporations. Big time.
Putting a server in the US is a calculated risk mostly because the US are the only country that have the means, the time and the drive to come after you anywhere.
And yes, you're probably right...
But the software was developed in Russia and was and still is - NOT illegal there.
Is this really a shock to anyone?
:)
It's not a shock, but it's not a pleasant reminder either, atually, it'a an escallation of a - already - bad situation.
Although this is somewhat poorly worded it isn't intended as a troll, sorry I'm an engineer not an editor.
Rest assured nobody mistook your posting with the editors': you had no typos and nice, clear ideas.
if you are doing something the US does (or may in the near future) consider illegal.
This is even worse... imagine you're coding something that's perfectly acceptable and legal today. If it's deemed illegal next year, would you be still punishable? If it's not software and DMCA, the answer is definitely NO.
But if it is, is at best "maybe"; this whole thing looks really bad now but maybe it's just me.
They were dragged into this, and their lawyers are american... don't idealize this,keep it in perspective: it's mostly an american fight with the russians as innocent bystanders or, in the worst case, collateral damage.
even though the activity transpired over the Internet the United States still has jurisdiction.
This is definitely not good news. It means basically that you could even get extradited to be tried in the U.S. if they so request. Not particularly good news for a lot of people starting with Amsterdam's pr0n industry to the Norwegian DECSS guy...
So it looks like Alan Cox was overreacting: you don't have to avoid going to the States, the'll come after you if they really want. Not funny at all.
Which uk mirror? It seems to me that no mirror has 3.0 yet... Or you were downloading 2.2.2?
It's "cracking the whip" not "whiping the crack"... calm down. :)
MYST (4-hour miniseries) - Inspired by the best-selling CD-ROM adventure game of all time [...]
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I'm still waiting for the miniseries inspired by my 2 all-time favorites, tetris and lemmings...
"This is a victory for consumers, small business and the Internet as a whole, [...]"
This surely means something is fishy - I mean, DMCA was the last consumer victory and we're still reeling.
I don't know about you, but I'm cautious every time I hear about consumer (or shareholder, sometimes) victories: the battles are invariably lost one way or another.
If you are worried, imagine the panic that hit this guy. :)
How would they keep them from _not_ returning?
:)
That's the idea - they want the pigeons to get lost.
Long before September 11 and last year's virus-like attacks over the Internet, the United States government announced plans to train an elite corps of computer security experts [...]
Oh come on, do you really beleive that? Or that freenet, anonymizer and all the other anonimizing services abruptly invoked "pre-9/11" decisions to cut their services? And RSA/NAI dropping PGP?
Jeez, I'm not wearing my tinfoil hat right now, but you must have your head burried 4 feet in the sand...
It's also true that in academia there are a lot of what we would call "toy problems" because they are of such a small scope that they don't solve a real world problem yet.
Oh, then M$ must be the greatest academic institution in existance, filling word and excel with so many useless features that won't solve a real world problem ever...
I agree M$ hides "strategic" pieces of software and tries to make them hard or next-to-impossible to uninstall; even Outlook Express - which was previously removable via Add/remove software is nowdays "a vital part of the operating system" (and yes, you actually can get rid of it: here - also C't magazine had a HOWTO for this - in german).
:(
But unfortunately what you say about companies caught lying in court is just wishful thinking: these days, the corporations have more rights than an individual.
Money talks, basicly.