Seagate's spin relies on latency (2 ms) and seek time (1.9 ms) and as usual, they don't tell us how they come up with those figures.
Even if those figures are correct, that still doesn't explain how Seagate's new 15-K rpm drives would be better.
Imagine now, you have a server, it's transaction-busy, and you need to have lots and lots of io.
Would you rely on ONE 15-K rpm hd, or would you rather have 2 or more slower-spinning drives, maybe several, connected to raid-5 array, so to spread out the io load?
Think of it, willya?
A drive that spins 15-K rpm spins twice as fast as a drive that spins at 7400 rpm, that means, a 15-K rpm drives will NEVER last as long as the other one which spins half as fast.
I would rather have a full array of 7400 rpm drives in raid5 configuration than rely on the faster spinning drives that may crash before its time, and that will certainly give me lots of headache. For crashed drives means lost data, and if my server is transaction-busy, lost data means lost income.
Furrthermore, the recent MTBF from all HD manufacturers are almost always bogus anyway. How I long for the old time where MTBF means just that, Mean Time Between Failures.
The matter with Stampede Linux is they are attempting to squeeze out every ounce of speed out of the linux code, short of re-writing the entire OS in the assembly language.
They have chosen to use pgcc because of those weird optimization. As weird as those optimizations are, they do work in term of Stampede Linux.
I understand that the use of pgcc contributes to many problems, but that is a tradeoff.
My only hope that one day gcc give as much optimization as pgcc, with less weirdness involved.
The number one weakness of GNOME is its numbering sy system.
The numbers are all thrown about with nobody know which one to follow. Sometimes we see mentions of GNOME 1.1.0, then we have GNOME 1.1.2, and now GNOME 1.1.4, and GNOME 1.2.
But let us not forget about another slashdot article about the desktop environment for GNOME 2.0.
My only wish is that the GNOME people will once and for all stop throwing all those confusing numbers out because many users are having a lot of trouble keeping up which one is which.
> Borland makes quality stuff, and its great > to see this come out.
No disagreement here !
> But, CmdrTaco, your comment sounds (at least > to me) resentful.
First of all, I needo to state that this is NOT an attempt to sucking up on CmdrTaco, but I think CmdrTaco is right.
Have you read what the Borland folks are writing at http://www.borland.com/about/press/2000/bcppcompil er.html ?
The Borland folks are hitching a ride on the "Open Source" bandwagon, by using the word "Open Source" (as in "With Open Source development exploding on all platforms, developers can now rely on... blah, blah, blah") and if the Borland folks are trying to portray themself as supportive of the "Open Source" movement, why then stop at halfway?
Why only release the compiler as it is?
Why not go all the way and release the source code?
If the Borland folks are supportive of the FREE SOFTWARE movement, then I will be more than glad for what they have done. But they (The Borland folks) are using "Open Source" to make themselves look extraordinarily great.
My thinking is, if someone wants to use "Open Source" as a banner, that someone better support it all the way.
That's the way I see it.
It doesn't mean I am right, but that's just the way I see it.
Interenet is certainly NOT the best thing since sliced bread. In fact, the Net comes up FOURTH in turning people into lonely nuts who talk out loud when nobody else is around.
The first technology that makes people talkking when nobody else is around is the RADIO.
When you listen to somebody who talk nonsense on the radio, sometimes you talk back.
Ahhh... Please don't tell me you NEVER talk back to a radio before.
The next come the telephone.
Telephone ring, you pick it up, and "Yelow!" Hah!
Then it comes the teevee.
You watched Nixon on the tube right? You remember the guy going "I am NOT a crook !"? You remember you saying "Yeah, sure."?
Today, with the Net, you can type, talk, dance, wink and do everything you want, even when nobody is PHYSICALLY AROUND.
The links go to Atipa, it has an announcement about the recent purchase of EST (Enhance Software Technologies), the maker of the BRU backup and restore utility.
What is lack is there is NO mention about what will happen to the BRU, and to all other Atipa's current and future softwares will be.
Will Atipa change BRU's licensing?
Will Atipa support the open-source community by releasing all its softwares on GPL?
"Microsoft is estimating that 28,000 of these are likely to be 'real' problems."
Only three weeks ago, I attended a seminar hosted by a company selling "fireware solution" which runs on NT. The speaker was telling us that their "solutions" will run on W2K.
In the Q & A session, I asked the speaker if the company has any plan to port their wares into Linux, and you know what that guy said to me?
"We have no plan to port any of our product to Linux, and we will never do so, because Linux is too buggy."
Yeah, this is exactly what the guy (supposingly the CEO of the company) said, and his company was supposed to be one of the "biggest NT supporter" in Asia.
With W2K having over 28,000 "features" that may give them "real problems", I truly wonder what the guy will say next.
This question might be seen as a troll, but it is not.
Why do you want to help the FBI, Dave?
The FBI is an apparatus for the Big Brother, the same Big Brother which has taken away so many of our basic rights, and the same Big Brothers which has done a lot to limit our rights online !
Regarding School and Linux, if I am not wrong, back in the old days when Linux was still _very_ young, there was a university in Florida which roll their own version of Linux.
Let me first state that my memory _may_ be incorrect, but in the remote possibility that I am right, can anyone tell me what has happened to that Florida university's version of Linux?
In the same School and Linux vein, there is a group of people actively developing and grouping GPLed school-related softwares that primarily run on Linux, their location is at www.seul.org.
If you are interested in academia and Linux, please check them out !
"Every day, in our increasingly networked world, our freedoms and privacy are being stolen from us. And most of us just let happen"
Wait a minute, please!
Stolen?!
The act of _stealing_ something involves a party takes something from another party without the knowledge of that other party. But in the Net, most of the time, we the Netizens KNEW what is going on, but we CAN NOT DO A THING TO STOP IT.
How many times you access a webpage with a cookie attached, and if you do not accept the cookie, you don't get to access that webpage?
How many times do we have the option of refusing the cookies without having ourselves penalized?
That is to say, in the "cookie" example, the act itself is no longer an act of _stealing_, rather, it's an act of ROBBING.
The sentence thus should read :
"Every day, in our increasingly networked world, our freedoms and privacy are being _ROBBED_ from us."
I suspect that Lucent didn't do a Linux "Eclipse" because Lucent doesn't buy into the GPL mindset. Therefore, if there ever is a need to get a similar thing for Linux, somebody else must take up the task.
Is there someone like that out there amongst the Linux community?
Having read the various posts, I come to the conclusion that most/. users can't break out from the stereotype boxen.
Why should we box ourselves using terms like "Geeks"?
Why should we subscribe to the stereotypes that Geeks (and Geek-chics) are supposed to be "geeky", that is, lack of social skills, shy, compulsive, wearing coke-bottle-glass, and so on, and so forth?
I mean, I have met with many hackers who hacked Linux and other things, and yes, few of them do fit the stereotipical description of "Geeks", but many more hackers I have met looks like normal people, and they do not walk straight to the wall either.:)
If only the people who frequent/, can break out of the boxen, we may be able to prove to the world that you do not have to be a "geek" to hack Linux (or any other supposingly "geeky") projects.
I hope that those who think they are "Geek-chics" stop thinking that they are "geeks", because, no matter if you are a male or female, if you are good at programming doesn't mean that you have to be bad at communicating, or "making out" at the back seat of the car, and so on.
At last, Apple has come out fully embracing Linux, and they even have a PPCLinux.Apple.Com to prove it, the people who champion Linux (and all other opensource projects) suddenly turn their noses.
Why?
Why do you have to be critical to Apple just when they embrace Linux?
Sentence like "But can you drag your hard drive to the trash to unmount it?" just isn't going to win any friend, you know?
A friendly reminder to all Linux Advocates:
Believe it or not, Linux is still the new kid in town, and those of us who want to see Linux to be the dominant player in the world OS scene must remember that the number thing we must do as Ambassadors of Linux is to be friendly to all, and only by our friendliness and our helpful attitude that the world will be finally brought into our fold.
Snobbery doesn't win any friend. Please remember that.
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If you want to start a game of blame-of-the-week, please do not blame the Russians who took the money.
It was the US government who wanted to throw money to the Russians, thinking that money can buy everything.
Ir was the US government who practically threw money at the Russians, and if I were the Russians, of course I will take the money. I mean, who wouldn't?
The way this case is progressing, the US court system is forcing many of us to do a global civil disobedience campaign.
No matter what them people think, the code is out, and people _are_ playing and studying the code. The more injunctions the US court system place upon us, the more they are forcing us to employ creative means to counter their latest moves.
My only hope is that one of the big guys from the open-source community will stand up and lead this global-wide civil disobedient campaign. All we need now is a leader who is willing to lead us.
"I'd rather settle for continuing to be able to run my existing software."
I have to whack my head TWICE when I read that, because I have heard something like that back in the days people were running CP/M on Zilog chips, on 8008, and others were running TRS-80 from Radio Shack.
At that time, some people said "Why should I use the 8080 chip? Why should I try the Apple? What I have here is enough for me, I have invested too much for what I have here."
Guess what? See how many people are still using the TRS-80 or running the old CP/M?
I was about five years old, it was raining outside, and was thundering all evening.
I was deafly afraid of thunder, so I hopped on my bed, my sanctuary at that time, to find solace.
It was a "crackling" sound, not a loud crack, but one that sounded different - something very near me. I jumped out of the bed, looked around, and saw something shimmering, no, something very bright that hovers an inch or two above the ground.
It wasn't exactly a "ball", but kinda round in shape. It has a bright yellowish light, just floating and floating, not actually moving a lot.
I was a little kid at that time, I did not know what it was, and as a curious kid, I squad a few inches away from it and watched.
I looked at it for, oh, I forgot how long, but it must be long enough for me to remember that I had to tell someone about it, so I ran out of my room, grabbing my dad and trying to get him inside my room.
By the time I went back to my room with my dad, the ball was gone.
There was no heat, at least I did not feel any "heat" at all, when I was only inches away from that bright floating ball. The BBC report said that something was "burning", and if something was "burning", there ought to be heat, but there was no heat, at least to my knowledge, for the bright ball that appeared before me.
It was only much latter in my life that I learned of such things as "Ball Lightining", but to tell you the truth, I do not know if the bright floating ball that I saw was a Ball Lighting or not.
It was just something that I saw, and I think I am the only witness to that thing.
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Seagate's spin relies on latency (2 ms) and seek time (1.9 ms) and as usual, they don't tell us how they come up with those figures.
Even if those figures are correct, that still doesn't explain how Seagate's new 15-K rpm drives would be better.
Imagine now, you have a server, it's transaction-busy, and you need to have lots and lots of io.
Would you rely on ONE 15-K rpm hd, or would you rather have 2 or more slower-spinning drives, maybe several, connected to raid-5 array, so to spread out the io load?
Think of it, willya?
A drive that spins 15-K rpm spins twice as fast as a drive that spins at 7400 rpm, that means, a 15-K rpm drives will NEVER last as long as the other one which spins half as fast.
I would rather have a full array of 7400 rpm drives in raid5 configuration than rely on the faster spinning drives that may crash before its time, and that will certainly give me lots of headache. For crashed drives means lost data, and if my server is transaction-busy, lost data means lost income.
Furrthermore, the recent MTBF from all HD manufacturers are almost always bogus anyway. How I long for the old time where MTBF means just that, Mean Time Between Failures.
Dear sir,
I hope I am not starting a flame war.
The matter with Stampede Linux is they are attempting to squeeze out every ounce of speed out of the linux code, short of re-writing the entire OS in the assembly language.
They have chosen to use pgcc because of those weird optimization. As weird as those optimizations are, they do work in term of Stampede Linux.
I understand that the use of pgcc contributes to many problems, but that is a tradeoff.
My only hope that one day gcc give as much optimization as pgcc, with less weirdness involved.
The number one weakness of GNOME is its numbering sy system.
The numbers are all thrown about with nobody know which one to follow. Sometimes we see mentions of GNOME 1.1.0, then we have GNOME 1.1.2, and now GNOME 1.1.4, and GNOME 1.2.
But let us not forget about another slashdot article about the desktop environment for GNOME 2.0.
My only wish is that the GNOME people will once and for all stop throwing all those confusing numbers out because many users are having a lot of trouble keeping up which one is which.
Thanks in advance for your cooperation.
> Ever heard of being thankful for what you get?
Believe me, I am_ thankful !
I _truly_ am !!
> Borland makes quality stuff, and its great
> to see this come out.
No disagreement here !
> But, CmdrTaco, your comment sounds (at least
> to me) resentful.
First of all, I needo to state that this is NOT an attempt to sucking up on CmdrTaco, but I think CmdrTaco is right.
Have you read what the Borland folks are writing at http://www.borland.com/about/press/2000/bcppcompi
The Borland folks are hitching a ride on the "Open Source" bandwagon, by using the word "Open Source" (as in "With Open Source development exploding on all platforms, developers can now rely on
Why only release the compiler as it is?
Why not go all the way and release the source code?
If the Borland folks are supportive of the FREE SOFTWARE movement, then I will be more than glad for what they have done. But they (The Borland folks) are using "Open Source" to make themselves look extraordinarily great.
My thinking is, if someone wants to use "Open Source" as a banner, that someone better support it all the way.
That's the way I see it.
It doesn't mean I am right, but that's just the way I see it.
Interenet is certainly NOT the best thing since sliced bread. In fact, the Net comes up FOURTH in turning people into lonely nuts who talk out loud when nobody else is around.
The first technology that makes people talkking when nobody else is around is the RADIO.
When you listen to somebody who talk nonsense on the radio, sometimes you talk back.
Ahhh... Please don't tell me you NEVER talk back to a radio before.
The next come the telephone.
Telephone ring, you pick it up, and "Yelow!" Hah!
Then it comes the teevee.
You watched Nixon on the tube right? You remember the guy going "I am NOT a crook !"? You remember you saying "Yeah, sure."?
Today, with the Net, you can type, talk, dance, wink and do everything you want, even when nobody is PHYSICALLY AROUND.
The links go to Atipa, it has an announcement about the recent purchase of EST (Enhance Software Technologies), the maker of the BRU backup and restore utility.
What is lack is there is NO mention about what will happen to the BRU, and to all other Atipa's current and future softwares will be.
Will Atipa change BRU's licensing?
Will Atipa support the open-source community by releasing all its softwares on GPL?
That is something I want to know.
Thirtenn Billion Years is a Very Long Time [tm], even for a quasar, it is _still_ a very long time.
So, do you think that quasar is _still_ there? It it is not a quasar now, what will it be? A white dwarf? A blackhole? What?!
You said:
"If you check out their anonymous FTP server, and look around hard enough, you can find some really cool GPLd toys."
I hope you can give us some url to save us from the "look around hard enough" stage.
Any url, please?
The Register had a report back in last October, 05, of the same thing.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/991005-000013.html
"Microsoft is estimating that 28,000 of these are likely to be 'real' problems."
Only three weeks ago, I attended a seminar hosted by a company selling "fireware solution" which runs on NT. The speaker was telling us that their "solutions" will run on W2K.
In the Q & A session, I asked the speaker if the company has any plan to port their wares into Linux, and you know what that guy said to me?
"We have no plan to port any of our product to Linux, and we will never do so, because Linux is too buggy."
Yeah, this is exactly what the guy (supposingly the CEO of the company) said, and his company was supposed to be one of the "biggest NT supporter" in Asia.
With W2K having over 28,000 "features" that may give them "real problems", I truly wonder what the guy will say next.
I have many episode of sleep deprivations before, and I took acid many times in my younger days too.
What I can is that those two things are NOT the same.
This question might be seen as a troll, but it is not.
Why do you want to help the FBI, Dave?
The FBI is an apparatus for the Big Brother, the same Big Brother which has taken away so many of our basic rights, and the same Big Brothers which has done a lot to limit our rights online !
Why are you helping the FBI, Dave?
Regarding School and Linux, if I am not wrong, back in the old days when Linux was still _very_ young, there was a university in Florida which roll their own version of Linux.
Let me first state that my memory _may_ be incorrect, but in the remote possibility that I am right, can anyone tell me what has happened to that Florida university's version of Linux?
In the same School and Linux vein, there is a group of people actively developing and grouping GPLed school-related softwares that primarily run on Linux, their location is at www.seul.org.
If you are interested in academia and Linux, please check them out !
You are wrong, man !
The movie "Titanic" was rendered using Linux, _not_ FreeBSD.
"Every day, in our increasingly networked world, our freedoms and privacy are being stolen from us. And most of us just let happen"
Wait a minute, please!
Stolen?!
The act of _stealing_ something involves a party takes something from another party without the knowledge of that other party. But in the Net, most of the time, we the Netizens KNEW what is going on, but we CAN NOT DO A THING TO STOP IT.
How many times you access a webpage with a cookie attached, and if you do not accept the cookie, you don't get to access that webpage?
How many times do we have the option of refusing the cookies without having ourselves penalized?
That is to say, in the "cookie" example, the act itself is no longer an act of _stealing_, rather, it's an act of ROBBING.
The sentence thus should read :
"Every day, in our increasingly networked world, our freedoms and privacy are being _ROBBED_ from us."
Please pardon me for asking this question:
Will we ever see a Linux version of QoS?
I suspect that Lucent didn't do a Linux "Eclipse" because Lucent doesn't buy into the GPL mindset. Therefore, if there ever is a need to get a similar thing for Linux, somebody else must take up the task.
Is there someone like that out there amongst the Linux community?
You said: Windows is not enough, starring Linus Torvalds as James Bond, 007...
Methinks instead of the simple "007" it should be something like
"Name is Torvalds, Linus Torvalds, 0.0.7"
Heheheh
Having read the various posts, I come to the conclusion that most
Why should we box ourselves using terms like "Geeks"?
Why should we subscribe to the stereotypes that Geeks (and Geek-chics) are supposed to be "geeky", that is, lack of social skills, shy, compulsive, wearing coke-bottle-glass, and so on, and so forth?
I mean, I have met with many hackers who hacked Linux and other things, and yes, few of them do fit the stereotipical description of "Geeks", but many more hackers I have met looks like normal people, and they do not walk straight to the wall either.
If only the people who frequent
I hope that those who think they are "Geek-chics" stop thinking that they are "geeks", because, no matter if you are a male or female, if you are good at programming doesn't mean that you have to be bad at communicating, or "making out" at the back seat of the car, and so on.
Please be advice that the correct URL is http://linuxguiden.linpro.no/experience.php
The hotlinked url is incorrect.
I don't get it, I just don't get it !
At last, Apple has come out fully embracing Linux, and they even have a PPCLinux.Apple.Com to prove it, the people who champion Linux (and all other opensource projects) suddenly turn their noses.
Why?
Why do you have to be critical to Apple just when they embrace Linux?
Sentence like "But can you drag your hard drive to the trash to unmount it?" just isn't going to win any friend, you know?
A friendly reminder to all Linux Advocates:
Believe it or not, Linux is still the new kid in town, and those of us who want to see Linux to be the dominant player in the world OS scene must remember that the number thing we must do as Ambassadors of Linux is to be friendly to all, and only by our friendliness and our helpful attitude that the world will be finally brought into our fold.
Snobbery doesn't win any friend. Please remember that.
If you want to start a game of blame-of-the-week, please do not blame the Russians who took the money.
It was the US government who wanted to throw money to the Russians, thinking that money can buy everything.
Ir was the US government who practically threw money at the Russians, and if I were the Russians, of course I will take the money. I mean, who wouldn't?
I am posting a question here, and I hope my question will not attract too much flames.
Is it better to integrate this JFS into the kernel or is it better to let the distros integrate it?
Linux is in the late 2.3 cycle, is there enough time left to integrate IBM's JFS into the kernel at this late juncture?
The way this case is progressing, the US court system is forcing many of us to do a global civil disobedience campaign.
No matter what them people think, the code is out, and people _are_ playing and studying the code. The more injunctions the US court system place upon us, the more they are forcing us to employ creative means to counter their latest moves.
My only hope is that one of the big guys from the open-source community will stand up and lead this global-wide civil disobedient campaign. All we need now is a leader who is willing to lead us.
You said:
"I'd rather settle for continuing to be able to run my existing software."
I have to whack my head TWICE when I read that, because I have heard something like that back in the days people were running CP/M on Zilog chips, on 8008, and others were running TRS-80 from Radio Shack.
At that time, some people said "Why should I use the 8080 chip? Why should I try the Apple? What I have here is enough for me, I have invested too much for what I have here."
Guess what? See how many people are still using the TRS-80 or running the old CP/M?
I was about five years old, it was raining outside, and was thundering all evening.
I was deafly afraid of thunder, so I hopped on my bed, my sanctuary at that time, to find solace.
It was a "crackling" sound, not a loud crack, but one that sounded different - something very near me. I jumped out of the bed, looked around, and saw something shimmering, no, something very bright that hovers an inch or two above the ground.
It wasn't exactly a "ball", but kinda round in shape. It has a bright yellowish light, just floating and floating, not actually moving a lot.
I was a little kid at that time, I did not know what it was, and as a curious kid, I squad a few inches away from it and watched.
I looked at it for, oh, I forgot how long, but it must be long enough for me to remember that I had to tell someone about it, so I ran out of my room, grabbing my dad and trying to get him inside my room.
By the time I went back to my room with my dad, the ball was gone.
There was no heat, at least I did not feel any "heat" at all, when I was only inches away from that bright floating ball. The BBC report said that something was "burning", and if something was "burning", there ought to be heat, but there was no heat, at least to my knowledge, for the bright ball that appeared before me.
It was only much latter in my life that I learned of such things as "Ball Lightining", but to tell you the truth, I do not know if the bright floating ball that I saw was a Ball Lighting or not.
It was just something that I saw, and I think I am the only witness to that thing.
Oh well...