Call me dumb as you must, but I do have difficulty connecting Quantum Computer with the solving of the "scattering" problem.
I thought someone have already prototyped some sort of "quantum" computer, before the "scattering" problem was solved.
That goes back to my original question - that we have done things like Flouresence tube and engraving chips with ion beams _before_ anyone have a definite answer to the "scattering" problem, and my original question is - what that discovery will yield for us, apart for making the Quantum Physicians feel much better?
I am trying to understand the importance of this discovery. Although the article mention the ionization process that lead to the grow of the flourenscent tubes, to the engraving of silicon chips, we have done all that WITHOUT understanding exactly how these things are done.
Can anyone tell me what this discovery for the "scattering problem" may yield, that is, apart from the Quantum Physics discipline?
Asking the question of "Where is ACLU when we need them" is considered "FLAMEBAIT" in Slashdot, eh?
Lambasting the FBI as FASCIST, for their violation against the United States' Constitutions, in their role in the Waco fiasco, and now the forced closure of a website is "FLAMEBAIT" in Slashdot, eh?
Point out that Bill Klingon is one of the biggest FASCIST of all time is considered a "FLAMEBAIT" in Slashdot, eh?
Well.... Methinks the slashdot community is going to HELL for having SO MANY BLOODY IDIOTS having the power to moderate. They do not understand the VERY principles that the United States was built upon; They have NO IDEA what the Bill Of Rights is all about; The only thing all these BLOODY IDIOTS know is REPEAT AFTER THEIR LEADER.
When their leader says "BAN GUNS", they yell "BAN GUNS!"; When their leader says "BOMB IRAQ", they yell "BOMB IRAQ!" and so on.
They never understand, and never TRIED TO understand WHY their leader wants to do something.
Bill Klingon wants to BAN GUNS because he doesn't like the idea of having a people who has the power to CHECK the government - Bill Klingon is one of those FASCIST who wants a SUPER-POWERFUL government which can DO ANYTHING it wants. With the second amendment, the people have the rights to bear arm, and with that, the government of United States can NOT be SUPER-POWERFUL, because the people of the United States of America gets a chance to CONTROL their government.
Unfortunately, the BLOODY IDIOTS in who have the power to moderate in Slashdot do NOT understand this.
All they understand is whatever their leader tells them, it must be TRUE, and the order MUST be followed, IMMEDIATELY.
I am sad, man. I am sad that Slashdot has been transformed into a place where BLOODY IDIOTS congregates.
Slashdot used to be a FRONTIER PLACE, where people with BOLD IDEAS and people who prefer to think INDEPENDENTLY gather.
No more. Slashdot now is filled sith BLOODY IDIOTS, and now, whenever an article or a comment being posted espousing ideas that are NOT THAT COMMON, it is immediately moderated down.
Yeah, go ahead, moderate this post to "FLAMEBAIT" too. As if I care.
Slashdot has lost its spirit. With BLOODY IDIOTS crowding out independent minded people, Slashdot will be just like ZDNet, a dull and boring place.
All of us in our shop have been reading reports of the "new-and-improved graphic" graphic chips that supposed to fly at this and that speed, in the giga-pixels-per-second range.
All is well, if those giga-pixels-per-second can be translated into SERIOUS USE.
For a gamer, the giga-pixels performance might be sufficient, but for other serious uses - like REALTIME SIMULATION for example, giga-pixels-per-second performance do us any good if it can't do simple refreshs at 30 frames/second or more, at the resolution of 2048*2048*32bits/pixel.
REALTIME simulations _ARE_ important to our shop, and the adage "A picture is better than a thousand words" rings very true to us, for there is no way we can catch faults by pour over the tera-bytes of data generated on a typical simulation.
We have reached our human capabilities in our demanding simulation environment, and when we _NEED_ the hardware to support us, all we see are marketing hypes that do not translate into real use for us.
My hope is that one day the marketing hype will go away, and serious users like us will get the products that we truly require.
Anyone know how long we have to wait until _REALLY USEFUL_ products will come to the market?
First of all, I have to tell all Slashdotters that YOU ARE BEING DUPED !!
The scare-article was originated from Hongkong, by a group of anti-communist hackers who called themselves the "Blondes".
Yes, they are a group of chinamen who dyed their haird BLONDE, in their futile attempt to become white (and blone, and blue-eyed, and so on.)
HongKong is famous for Chinese who are so used to licking their (former) British masters' butts, and now that those British butts have all gone home, those "blonde" characters are looking for ways to lick Uncle Sam's butt instead.
One of the manifesto of the "HongKong Blonde" hacker-group is to "destroy all China electronic infrastructure", and now that they have FAILED in achieving anything, they turn to propaganda wars instead.
"Leaking" out false-news is one of the known way of creating rumors, and so, the "HongKong blondes" purposely "leaked" out "news" that the Chinese were targetting InterNet as their next battlefield.
This is not to say that the Chinese are not doing such things, but the report - I have read that "news-leak" 2 weeks ago - that SlashDot was duped to carry is so full of misinformation, it does not worth anybody's time to take it seriously.
Slashdot can do better, by carrying news pieces that are generally interesting. If Slashdot keep on carrying rubbish-news, my suggestion to Slashdot is to change its name into "National Enquirer, the Online Edition".
"What accredited colleges or universities offer a full Bachelors in Computer Science through Distance Learning?"
"How much do they cost?"
"What are the policies on transfered credits?"
While I agree that what you have asked are important, I feel that you haven't asked the MOST important question of all -
"Which university offers the BEST COMPUTER SCIENCE COURSE which teaches not the MUNDANE, but the UP-TO-THE-MINUTE stuffs that can be truly useful in REAL WORLD, with the teachers who can REALLY TEACH?"
You see, you can go to the cheapest university and get a piece of paper, but you may not get ANYTHING useful for the TIME (remember, TIME _IS_ MONEY !!) you have invested there.
You can go to the MOST EXPENSIVE college and still GET NOTHING.
You can go to a university where you can transfer ALL YOUR PREVIOUS CREDITS, but then, you may end up LEARNING NOTHING out of this experience.
I am in a position of hiring, and most often, the newly minted college grads often have NO IDEA what the REAL WORLD OF COMPUTING is all about.
I rather hire HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS who do know their way in and out of the systems that I want them to work on, rather than the college grads who have to RELEARN EVERYTHING.
1. Leave a space at the site, whereby visitors to the site can leave a message to those who administrating the site, with suggestions/comments - or at the very least, an email address where people can email them with questions and/or suggestions.
2. The site listed "intelligence" agencies for Europe, USA, Russia, Isreal and China, but it leaves out secret agencies from other equally dreaded countries such as Japan, Syria, Korea, Indonesia, Libya, Myanmar, Malaysia, Brazil, Singapore; And the site also didn't list the secret police (and hired mercs) working for organizations such as the PLO (Palestinian Liberation Organization), or the Talibans of Afghanistan.
The fact that I have to leave suggestions over here, and not over ACLU's site means that the site could use an improvement or two.
My hope is someone from ACLU would read this and pass my suggestions to the people who run the Echelonwatch. The site is too valuable for all, and it can be even more valuable if it is made a little bit more user-friendly, and have a wider-ranging coverage.
All is fine and finess for those who do the forecasting, that the final realization of the Grand Unification of all forces will somehow make us all that much better.
That is, _IF_ we human can do it _BEFORE_ we blow all of us in such a grandscale that we'd be in minute smitherines way before 2050.
The way US is bullying all other countries all over the world, I have doubt that humanities can survive until 2050.
People who are being bullied tends to rebel, and the more US bullies the whole world, the more it is possible that the world will rebel against Uncle Sam, and with over 7,000 NUKES pointed at EACH AND EVERY CORNER in this world, what is left in 2050 will be a bunch of barren wasted rocks, orbiting somewhere the third piece of rock (from the Sun) used to be.
The Visual Effects companies has had an impact on the video industry for decades. One of the earlier DIGITAL visual-effects was shown to the world, at least in US, when EXXON advertises its gasoline as "Tiger in a car" by MORPHING a speeding car into a leaping tiger.
If I am not mistaken, that ad was run on US teevee back in the 80's.
That is, in other word - how do we QUANTIFY our question?
Information (facts/data/stories/experience/perception/etc) are that we have in real-life cannot be quantify as neatly as the data we have in the digital world - in bits and bytes.
Therefore, it is almost impossible to quantify how much can our Brains hold because how do we quantify an "image" that is in our brain - especially those "images" that comes not only "image" per se, but also "feelings", including the "feel" of "smell" and the "background noise" that may be associated with that "image".
Until we can find a way to quantify our question, the question of "How Much Our Brains Can Hold", IMHO, is a no-brainer.
It was a stupid law to begin with, and it was the product of the paranoids in the US government.
Instead of trusting the people of capable to take care of themselves, those paranoids, well-meaning or not, decided that it is better to "Prevent the people from hurting themselves.
The day the US government is not rid of those paranoid, the day the US people do not get to enjoy TRUE LIBERTY.
Go to http://images.linux.com/xi_ad/ again, look at "entire.jpg" - the third image file of the page, - and now look carefully at the bottom right hand corner of your screen - that is, the lower LEFT hand corner of the "entire.jpg" image, - do you see a notebook?
Now, look at the image on the notebook's screen.
Don't you think the road-in-the-middle-of-nowhere-with-blue-sky-and-wh ite-cloud image looks remarkably similar to the picture they put on the cover of Bill Gates' "The Road Ahead" book, albeit without the mugshot of Mr. Gates?
Is this a co-incidence, or is it a "planned" thing?
Even the "white-cloud-with-blue-sky-background" thing looks remarably similar with the logo of a certain OS many of us rather forget?
"What's scary about this is that future DWDM products are claimed to aim for 400 wavelengths per fibre. That fibre would be able to carry over 21 million T1 channels!"
and I would like to know what part of the above can be classified as "SCARY" ?!
I know it may be a figure of speech, but new methods that push up the bandwidth of a pipe isn't something to be scared about.
Why do we have to worry about games being included in the distributions?
Games are just another type of applications. If Linux is good enough for other types of applications, Linux should be good enough for games.
So why worry?
Instead, we should rejoice that at last the game producers (coders ?) are recognizing the true value of Linux - A stable and robust operating system that is backed up by thousands of volunteers all over the world, as coders, as those who dispense answers, as someone who really cares.
Someone has produced "tough" carry-ons back in the '386 days. And then there was a contracted deal between DoD and some PC manufacturer to produce "battle-proof" PC which were used in both "Desert Shield" and later "Desert Storm" Operations.
BTW, can anyone tell me if there is anything new this "toughy", other than a new processor, bigger memory and HDD, and nicer screen ?
NEC and Samsung are having financial difficulties.
The Taiwanese quake has drastically reduced the output from the Taiwanese SDRAM's manufacturers, thus making the price of SDRAM much more expensive - and in turn, making SDRAM a much more profitable venture for financial troubling companies like NEC and Samsung to switch their manufacturing lines.
If the above is not enough, the marketplace has spoken. RAMBUS is too overly hyped - for the price difference of nearly 50% (and more) you get the performance hike of less than 10% (or less) - and who wants to spend more of their money for such lousy improvements?!
Thanks for the pointer.
Call me dumb as you must, but I do have difficulty connecting Quantum Computer with the solving of the "scattering" problem.
I thought someone have already prototyped some sort of "quantum" computer, before the "scattering" problem was solved.
That goes back to my original question - that we have done things like Flouresence tube and engraving chips with ion beams _before_ anyone have a definite answer to the "scattering" problem, and my original question is - what that discovery will yield for us, apart for making the Quantum Physicians feel much better?
Again, thanks for your pointer.
Help !
Has this wonderful program being ported to other OS platforms, such as Linux, DOS, MacOS, or BeOS?
If that has already happened, would someone kindly give me a pointer as to where they are, please?
Thanks in advance.
Please CC. me at vigorous@iname.com
I am trying to understand the importance of this discovery. Although the article mention the ionization process that lead to the grow of the flourenscent tubes, to the engraving of silicon chips, we have done all that WITHOUT understanding exactly how these things are done.
Can anyone tell me what this discovery for the "scattering problem" may yield, that is, apart from the Quantum Physics discipline?
Thanks in advance for any pointer.
Merry Christmas !!
Wow, I finally got the "FLAMEBAIT" stage.
Asking the question of "Where is ACLU when we need them" is considered "FLAMEBAIT" in Slashdot, eh?
Lambasting the FBI as FASCIST, for their violation against the United States' Constitutions, in their role in the Waco fiasco, and now the forced closure of a website is "FLAMEBAIT" in Slashdot, eh?
Point out that Bill Klingon is one of the biggest FASCIST of all time is considered a "FLAMEBAIT" in Slashdot, eh?
Well.... Methinks the slashdot community is going to HELL for having SO MANY BLOODY IDIOTS having the power to moderate. They do not understand the VERY principles that the United States was built upon; They have NO IDEA what the Bill Of Rights is all about; The only thing all these BLOODY IDIOTS know is REPEAT AFTER THEIR LEADER.
When their leader says "BAN GUNS", they yell "BAN GUNS!"; When their leader says "BOMB IRAQ", they yell "BOMB IRAQ!" and so on.
They never understand, and never TRIED TO understand WHY their leader wants to do something.
Bill Klingon wants to BAN GUNS because he doesn't like the idea of having a people who has the power to CHECK the government - Bill Klingon is one of those FASCIST who wants a SUPER-POWERFUL government which can DO ANYTHING it wants. With the second amendment, the people have the rights to bear arm, and with that, the government of United States can NOT be SUPER-POWERFUL, because the people of the United States of America gets a chance to CONTROL their government.
Unfortunately, the BLOODY IDIOTS in who have the power to moderate in Slashdot do NOT understand this.
All they understand is whatever their leader tells them, it must be TRUE, and the order MUST be followed, IMMEDIATELY.
I am sad, man. I am sad that Slashdot has been transformed into a place where BLOODY IDIOTS congregates.
Slashdot used to be a FRONTIER PLACE, where people with BOLD IDEAS and people who prefer to think INDEPENDENTLY gather.
No more. Slashdot now is filled sith BLOODY IDIOTS, and now, whenever an article or a comment being posted espousing ideas that are NOT THAT COMMON, it is immediately moderated down.
Yeah, go ahead, moderate this post to "FLAMEBAIT" too. As if I care.
Slashdot has lost its spirit. With BLOODY IDIOTS crowding out independent minded people, Slashdot will be just like ZDNet, a dull and boring place.
All of us in our shop have been reading reports of the "new-and-improved graphic" graphic chips that supposed to fly at this and that speed, in the giga-pixels-per-second range.
All is well, if those giga-pixels-per-second can be translated into SERIOUS USE.
For a gamer, the giga-pixels performance might be sufficient, but for other serious uses - like REALTIME SIMULATION for example, giga-pixels-per-second performance do us any good if it can't do simple refreshs at 30 frames/second or more, at the resolution of 2048*2048*32bits/pixel.
REALTIME simulations _ARE_ important to our shop, and the adage "A picture is better than a thousand words" rings very true to us, for there is no way we can catch faults by pour over the tera-bytes of data generated on a typical simulation.
We have reached our human capabilities in our demanding simulation environment, and when we _NEED_ the hardware to support us, all we see are marketing hypes that do not translate into real use for us.
My hope is that one day the marketing hype will go away, and serious users like us will get the products that we truly require.
Anyone know how long we have to wait until _REALLY USEFUL_ products will come to the market?
Since SSH contains crypto algo, can OpenSSH be used OUTSIDE of the U.S. of A. ?
First of all, I have to tell all Slashdotters that YOU ARE BEING DUPED !!
The scare-article was originated from Hongkong, by a group of anti-communist hackers who called themselves the "Blondes".
Yes, they are a group of chinamen who dyed their haird BLONDE, in their futile attempt to become white (and blone, and blue-eyed, and so on.)
HongKong is famous for Chinese who are so used to licking their (former) British masters' butts, and now that those British butts have all gone home, those "blonde" characters are looking for ways to lick Uncle Sam's butt instead.
One of the manifesto of the "HongKong Blonde" hacker-group is to "destroy all China electronic infrastructure", and now that they have FAILED in achieving anything, they turn to propaganda wars instead.
"Leaking" out false-news is one of the known way of creating rumors, and so, the "HongKong blondes" purposely "leaked" out "news" that the Chinese were targetting InterNet as their next battlefield.
This is not to say that the Chinese are not doing such things, but the report - I have read that "news-leak" 2 weeks ago - that SlashDot was duped to carry is so full of misinformation, it does not worth anybody's time to take it seriously.
Slashdot can do better, by carrying news pieces that are generally interesting. If Slashdot keep on carrying rubbish-news, my suggestion to Slashdot is to change its name into "National Enquirer, the Online Edition".
You have asked, in your "Ask Slashdot" piece,
"What accredited colleges or universities offer
a full Bachelors in Computer Science through
Distance Learning?"
"How much do they cost?"
"What are the policies on transfered credits?"
While I agree that what you have asked are important, I feel that you haven't asked the MOST important question of all -
"Which university offers the BEST COMPUTER SCIENCE COURSE which teaches not the MUNDANE, but the UP-TO-THE-MINUTE stuffs that can be truly useful in REAL WORLD, with the teachers who can REALLY TEACH?"
You see, you can go to the cheapest university and get a piece of paper, but you may not get ANYTHING useful for the TIME (remember, TIME _IS_ MONEY !!) you have invested there.
You can go to the MOST EXPENSIVE college and still GET NOTHING.
You can go to a university where you can transfer ALL YOUR PREVIOUS CREDITS, but then, you may end up LEARNING NOTHING out of this experience.
I am in a position of hiring, and most often, the newly minted college grads often have NO IDEA what the REAL WORLD OF COMPUTING is all about.
I rather hire HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS who do know their way in and out of the systems that I want them to work on, rather than the college grads who have to RELEARN EVERYTHING.
Congrats to ACLU for launching the Echelonwatch.
It is a good project, but it could be better.
Two suggestions:
1. Leave a space at the site, whereby visitors to the site can leave a message to those who administrating the site, with suggestions/comments - or at the very least, an email address where people can email them with questions and/or suggestions.
2. The site listed "intelligence" agencies for Europe, USA, Russia, Isreal and China, but it leaves out secret agencies from other equally dreaded countries such as Japan, Syria, Korea, Indonesia, Libya, Myanmar, Malaysia, Brazil, Singapore; And the site also didn't list the secret police (and hired mercs) working for organizations such as the PLO (Palestinian Liberation Organization), or the Talibans of Afghanistan.
The fact that I have to leave suggestions over here, and not over ACLU's site means that the site could use an improvement or two.
My hope is someone from ACLU would read this and pass my suggestions to the people who run the Echelonwatch. The site is too valuable for all, and it can be even more valuable if it is made a little bit more user-friendly, and have a wider-ranging coverage.
Thanks.
... that humanities gonna see that day.
All is fine and finess for those who do the forecasting, that the final realization of the Grand Unification of all forces will somehow make us all that much better.
That is, _IF_ we human can do it _BEFORE_ we blow all of us in such a grandscale that we'd be in minute smitherines way before 2050.
The way US is bullying all other countries all over the world, I have doubt that humanities can survive until 2050.
People who are being bullied tends to rebel, and the more US bullies the whole world, the more it is possible that the world will rebel against Uncle Sam, and with over 7,000 NUKES pointed at EACH AND EVERY CORNER in this world, what is left in 2050 will be a bunch of barren wasted rocks, orbiting somewhere the third piece of rock (from the Sun) used to be.
The Visual Effects companies has had an impact on the video industry for decades. One of the earlier DIGITAL visual-effects was shown to the world, at least in US, when EXXON advertises its gasoline as "Tiger in a car" by MORPHING a speeding car into a leaping tiger.
If I am not mistaken, that ad was run on US teevee back in the 80's.
As for Linux, the movie "Titanic" comes to mind.
Like any other techno-jargon, User-Friendliness [UF] has been badly overused and abused.
Nowadays we see stuffs advertised as "UF" which is anything but UF.
Thus, the question we all need to ask is:
Is anyone out there truly understand the proper concept of UF?
Unlike LinuxONE, which requires WINDOZE, our new and MUCH IMPROVED LINUX-ZERO requires NOTHING !!
Yeah, you read it right, NOTHING.
Our LINUX-ZERO is SO ADVANCE, it exists EVERYWHERE and yet it requires NOTHING to run on, and it produces ABSOLUTELY NO SIDE EFFECT !!!
Want to test drive our NEW AND IMPROVED LINUX-ZERO?
Here is the way you do it: Look around, and then smile.
Yeah, SMILE, DAMMIT !!
That will sure bring our LINUX-ZERO out. Because our LINUX-ZERO is made for one thing in mind - to BRING HAPPINESS TO ALL !
By the next millennium, we will bring out our LINUX-MINUS-ONE, which will be EVEN MORE FANTASTIC !!!
Just wait and see.
Before we ask the question:
"How much can the Brain takes?"
We must first have the answer to this question:
"How much is _much_?"
That is, in other word - how do we QUANTIFY our question?
Information (facts/data/stories/experience/perception/etc) are that we have in real-life cannot be quantify as neatly as the data we have in the digital world - in bits and bytes.
Therefore, it is almost impossible to quantify how much can our Brains hold because how do we quantify an "image" that is in our brain - especially those "images" that comes not only "image" per se, but also "feelings", including the "feel" of "smell" and the "background noise" that may be associated with that "image".
Until we can find a way to quantify our question, the question of "How Much Our Brains Can Hold", IMHO, is a no-brainer.
It was a stupid law to begin with, and it was the product of the paranoids in the US government.
Instead of trusting the people of capable to take care of themselves, those paranoids, well-meaning or not, decided that it is better to "Prevent the people from hurting themselves.
The day the US government is not rid of those paranoid, the day the US people do not get to enjoy TRUE LIBERTY.
A scifi writer who thinks not too highly of people from Asia. [ and that itself is an understatement. ]
Don't believe me? Well... you just have to read his books to find out.
Is this another sign of the worsening of the YALD (Yet Another Linux Distribution) Syndrome?
RMS-Linux?
Is it any different from RMS's "famous" GNU/Linux ?
That is, if you believe what the StarOffice guy is telling you.
The bridge is cheap, and I can even bring you there to look at it !
Interested? Please leave a message here.
Thanks.
Go to http://images.linux.com/xi_ad/ again, look at "entire.jpg" - the third image file of the page, - and now look carefully at the bottom right hand corner of your screen - that is, the lower LEFT hand corner of the "entire.jpg" image, - do you see a notebook?
Now, look at the image on the notebook's screen.
Don't you think the road-in-the-middle-of-nowhere-with-blue-sky-and-w
Is this a co-incidence, or is it a "planned" thing?
Even the "white-cloud-with-blue-sky-background" thing looks remarably similar with the logo of a certain OS many of us rather forget?
You wrote:
"Inhiibiting free discussion harms everyone else's right to be exposed to ideas they may find more valuable than you"
I agree with what you have said above, but there is one point I would like to point out, and that is -
The people who have criticize Katz are exercizing _THEIR_ rights of free speech too.
In saying that criticizm is bad, you have ironically violated the spirit of what you have said, and please let me quote your own words again:
"Examining an idea never hurts. It may be wrong, but in the process of honestly determining that for yourself that you can learn important things."
Saying that those who criticize Katz is bad, you have failed to EXAMINE THE IDEAS of those who criticized Katz !!
Criticizms may hurt one's ego, but without criticizms from others, one will never learn from one's own mistakes.
Sorry, couldn't help it.
Someone said:
"What's scary about this is that future DWDM products are claimed to aim for 400 wavelengths per fibre. That fibre would be able to carry over 21 million T1 channels!"
and I would like to know what part of the above can be classified as "SCARY" ?!
I know it may be a figure of speech, but new methods that push up the bandwidth of a pipe isn't something to be scared about.
We are not luddites, or are we?
Why do we have to worry about games being included in the distributions?
Games are just another type of applications. If Linux is good enough for other types of applications, Linux should be good enough for games.
So why worry?
Instead, we should rejoice that at last the game producers (coders ?) are recognizing the true value of Linux - A stable and robust operating system that is backed up by thousands of volunteers all over the world, as coders, as those who dispense answers, as someone who really cares.
This "tough 'puter" thingy is definitely not new.
Someone has produced "tough" carry-ons back in the '386 days. And then there was a contracted deal between DoD and some PC manufacturer to produce "battle-proof" PC which were used in both "Desert Shield" and later "Desert Storm" Operations.
BTW, can anyone tell me if there is anything new this "toughy", other than a new processor, bigger memory and HDD, and nicer screen ?
NEC and Samsung are having financial difficulties.
The Taiwanese quake has drastically reduced the output from the Taiwanese SDRAM's manufacturers, thus making the price of SDRAM much more expensive - and in turn, making SDRAM a much more profitable venture for financial troubling companies like NEC and Samsung to switch their manufacturing lines.
If the above is not enough, the marketplace has spoken. RAMBUS is too overly hyped - for the price difference of nearly 50% (and more) you get the performance hike of less than 10% (or less) - and who wants to spend more of their money for such lousy improvements?!