The only way this would have been "ok" would be if every single employee owned all of those CD's.
Why?? If I bring a CD to work and play it, does every person who hears it have to own the CD? How is it different just because the music is on a server and not a CD?
It's a fine - In August 2001, the RIAA asked IIS to stop the practice and the two parties entered talks for a settlement. there is nothing in the article about them resuming the "practice."
Sounds simple enough, RIAA has judged IIS to be guilty of copyright infirngement and has fined them $1m for it, which is what governmnetal law enforcement agencies, such as RIAA and MPAA, are supposed to do, after all.
And that's the goal right there. If RIAA can effectively eliminate the difference between legal and illegal mp3 and have the entire idea of an mp3 be associated with piracy... well, then we still need to buy CDs and we still need RIAA (which, we don't otherwise, if anyone hasn't noticed). Why try to compete in a new market when you are so well established in the old?
pay fees based on the number of people present when we play music
Hey, that's an interesting idea - I wonder how they will accomplish this technologically? I used to think that the ultimate goal was payment every single time some sort of media is played (we are almost there), but this makes more sense - payment for each time a person hears or sees something that "belongs" to them.
I don't have difficulty envisaging RIAA demanding the "right" to know how many people you have in your house (at any moment), after all it protects copyrights and fights piracy - it's a patriotic kind of thing.
The biggest distinction (for the moment, at least) is that libraries mostly deal with non-digital, not easily duplicatable media (ie books), which you have to return to them. Nothing was preventing the IIS employees from taking a copy of the entire MP3 collection home (as I understand it).
But you are right, libraries are irking the so called "media publishers" more and more, I think they just aren't feeling in a strong enough position to eliminate them - it's a big undertaking, might take some time, but will definitely help revenues.
Something we like to call "reading the article" comes into play here: Frank Creighton, RIAA's director of anti-piracy, who said the RIAA got a tip about IIS via an email.
Couldn't agree more, I went from Mandrake to LFS and I love it. In case you are curious, this is roughly how the install process will go (depending on your level of experience of course):
Your first install will take about a week and will not work. The second one will take a few days and you'll have a perfectly working "stock" LFS. Then you'll try to get fancy, and end up with an uncomprehensible mess on your next one. After that, you'll be able to get a new system up and running (with a desktop environment and everything) in a weekend or so, and after a few weeks of "settling in" will have the perfect GNU/Linux distro - yours.
In the end, for me at least, it's worth the work: it's fast, only has what you need/want, behaves exactly as you want it to, etc. It's certainly not for everbody, and probably won't be the thing to get Windows users to switch over, but this is the customizable and flexible part of Linux that we all gush over all the time.
PS oh yeah, you will need a host system to build it on, but only for like half an hour (ok, maybe a bit longer), and there's plenty of lightweight and quick to install distros out there that will do the job.
I am sure this has been pointed out already, but I'll throw my vote in - of course you'll find the install process dificult if you are using "advanced" distros, it's kind of like saying that LFS is "not there yet" because the install process is complicated.
Mandrake's installer beats any Windows installation hands down (of course Windows users rarely install it, but anyway); if someone not familiar with the Linux vs. Windows FUD were shown the installation of Win2K (for example) and an 8.x Mandrake, they'd simply laugh if they were told that Windows is the "user friendly" one. And RedHat's not far behind (behind Mandrake that is, not Windows) in that department, either.
Of course you'll always have the extra step of selecting software to install to complicate things. I just love it when people use these arguments - "Linux is too dificult - it comes with software!"
That's the beauty of the new HGPS (Human Genome Per Second) unit of measure - there isn't actually a "size" for the genome, since the "genome" as such is a very vague concept, when it comes to actual computer data. So if it's anywhere between 100MB and 500GB it still qualifies.
that is the absolute worst reference "unit" I've ever seen! Depending on how you define "human genome" it's anywhere between several hundred MB to several hundred GB. Can we just go back to the more reliable and accepted units, like the LOC (Libraries of Congress)?
Oh good, I was worried for a while. I've been going to that We Have The Way Out site, and they make a pretty convincing argument that Windows is the only way to go. But it's good to know that there's all these big companies using and selling UNIX - who would've thought?
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I'd say you would pretty much have to be insane to use any P2P client on your main PC. That's the reason I keep my Win2K partition around - I do nothing but file-sharing on it, it's chock-full of various types of spam (something even insalled that GAIN nonsense), oodles of all sorts of spyware and trojans and any other crap that came with these things. So what? I use it twice a week, and it doesn't even know my email address. If things get too cumbersome, and good reinstall every few months fixes that... just like running Windows in the good old day, come to think of it;)
The best part is that most users cannot comprehend that the extention doesn't make the file that format. Example:
for a project I was told I'd need to parse the Excel files that users submitted, and given.xls files. So I looked around for something to allow me to read Excel files from java, found some thing from IBM that actually loaded Excel in the backround to do it, it worked, but crashed all the time. Found something that was supposed to read read the binary format without any MS crap, spent a few hours trying to make it work, no luck - doesn't recognize the format. Of course only then it occured to me to actualy check what the files were, and sure enough, tab delimited text files with.xls extensions (which Excel loaded and converted on the fly, when I was using the IBM thing). I felt very stupid, for a long time.
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What's so puzzling about being forced to use Windows at work? Plenty of companies have "MS Only" policies, or am I just missing something?
Why?? If I bring a CD to work and play it, does every person who hears it have to own the CD? How is it different just because the music is on a server and not a CD?
the article saliently mentions "dedicated" whenever it talks about the server - does that make a difference or something? IANAL so just curious.
Sounds simple enough, RIAA has judged IIS to be guilty of copyright infirngement and has fined them $1m for it, which is what governmnetal law enforcement agencies, such as RIAA and MPAA, are supposed to do, after all.
And that's the goal right there. If RIAA can effectively eliminate the difference between legal and illegal mp3 and have the entire idea of an mp3 be associated with piracy... well, then we still need to buy CDs and we still need RIAA (which, we don't otherwise, if anyone hasn't noticed). Why try to compete in a new market when you are so well established in the old?
Hey, that's an interesting idea - I wonder how they will accomplish this technologically? I used to think that the ultimate goal was payment every single time some sort of media is played (we are almost there), but this makes more sense - payment for each time a person hears or sees something that "belongs" to them.
I don't have difficulty envisaging RIAA demanding the "right" to know how many people you have in your house (at any moment), after all it protects copyrights and fights piracy - it's a patriotic kind of thing.
But you are right, libraries are irking the so called "media publishers" more and more, I think they just aren't feeling in a strong enough position to eliminate them - it's a big undertaking, might take some time, but will definitely help revenues.
you need to get out more... much more
Something we like to call "reading the article" comes into play here: Frank Creighton, RIAA's director of anti-piracy, who said the RIAA got a tip about IIS via an email.
Your first install will take about a week and will not work. The second one will take a few days and you'll have a perfectly working "stock" LFS. Then you'll try to get fancy, and end up with an uncomprehensible mess on your next one. After that, you'll be able to get a new system up and running (with a desktop environment and everything) in a weekend or so, and after a few weeks of "settling in" will have the perfect GNU/Linux distro - yours.
In the end, for me at least, it's worth the work: it's fast, only has what you need/want, behaves exactly as you want it to, etc. It's certainly not for everbody, and probably won't be the thing to get Windows users to switch over, but this is the customizable and flexible part of Linux that we all gush over all the time.
PS oh yeah, you will need a host system to build it on, but only for like half an hour (ok, maybe a bit longer), and there's plenty of lightweight and quick to install distros out there that will do the job.
btw, there are still modem users out there?
of course if you are compiling most of your Linux distro, you probably care about things like supporting free software and such...
Mandrake's installer beats any Windows installation hands down (of course Windows users rarely install it, but anyway); if someone not familiar with the Linux vs. Windows FUD were shown the installation of Win2K (for example) and an 8.x Mandrake, they'd simply laugh if they were told that Windows is the "user friendly" one. And RedHat's not far behind (behind Mandrake that is, not Windows) in that department, either.
Of course you'll always have the extra step of selecting software to install to complicate things. I just love it when people use these arguments - "Linux is too dificult - it comes with software!"
That's the beauty of the new HGPS (Human Genome Per Second) unit of measure - there isn't actually a "size" for the genome, since the "genome" as such is a very vague concept, when it comes to actual computer data. So if it's anywhere between 100MB and 500GB it still qualifies.
hell, I can fill up 224 gigs - people actually doing useful things with it certainly will be able to.
that is the absolute worst reference "unit" I've ever seen! Depending on how you define "human genome" it's anywhere between several hundred MB to several hundred GB. Can we just go back to the more reliable and accepted units, like the LOC (Libraries of Congress)?
Why the picture with the little maze with the window in it, of course! You can't tell me you can argue with that. :)
I think they should just release a Boo Boo Kitty Fuck - that will sell much better, IMO.
Oh good, I was worried for a while. I've been going to that We Have The Way Out site, and they make a pretty convincing argument that Windows is the only way to go. But it's good to know that there's all these big companies using and selling UNIX - who would've thought?
his PC case - duh!
I'd say you would pretty much have to be insane to use any P2P client on your main PC. That's the reason I keep my Win2K partition around - I do nothing but file-sharing on it, it's chock-full of various types of spam (something even insalled that GAIN nonsense), oodles of all sorts of spyware and trojans and any other crap that came with these things. So what? I use it twice a week, and it doesn't even know my email address. If things get too cumbersome, and good reinstall every few months fixes that... just like running Windows in the good old day, come to think of it ;)
pah! 50% of what we do with our computers nowadays is technically illegal (the other 50% are blatantly illegal), that doesn't seem to stop people.
Not use their friggin software, when we don't like what the do? What a concept!
If your posts are so intelligen, why do you post at 0? Just curious.
for a project I was told I'd need to parse the Excel files that users submitted, and given .xls files. So I looked around for something to allow me to read Excel files from java, found some thing from IBM that actually loaded Excel in the backround to do it, it worked, but crashed all the time. Found something that was supposed to read read the binary format without any MS crap, spent a few hours trying to make it work, no luck - doesn't recognize the format. Of course only then it occured to me to actualy check what the files were, and sure enough, tab delimited text files with .xls extensions (which Excel loaded and converted on the fly, when I was using the IBM thing). I felt very stupid, for a long time.