We have a fundamental differing. This is civil disobedience, I am inciting my peers to go out find their congressman and hang him. I am fully convicted in my beliefs and if you can't handle my truth instead of double-dog-daring me to perform a childish stunt justify the obscenity that the MPAA and RIAA represent.
Who signed it? I did. I declare myself a sovereignty unto myself in this domain. Please add a charge of sedition for when I eventually get my day in court. It will make for great pomp and circumstance.
Also, the following outlines a contrary view to the line associations in the content industry such as the MPAA and RIAA lie to citizens with. They claim I am stealing from them when I download a 30 year old movie. I counterclaim that they have stolen from me the heritage that composes our culture. If we had a properly working copyright system there is no reason you shouldn't be able to log onto your favorite torrent sites and download movies, music, books, and software after a truly reasonable period of time had passed. People focus on what is, not what is missing. Restrictive copyright has stolen from all of us works other people would have made using the characters and settings of existing works. These derivative creators would have also made their own money on the new work. By manipulating laws through lobbying and lying for their own best interests the existing content industry in general is stealing things that could and should have been - from all of us.
The point is that it is the public domain. I won't sell it but I will happily let you download it from me. The public part is the greatest heist of the 20th century. We've been ripped-off. Time to kick the thief in the teeth.
The point is that they claim to own it when they have no right to do so. It's like a shady character opening his trench-coat to sell you a rolex in the back alley. Why should you pay for something that by all rights is part of our common culture? How does it promote the progress of the arts to perpetuate this corporate welfare tax? Its mine and I'm taking it.
Because as another stated the boycott is only legal because it is ineffective. Content industries are laughing all the way to the bank. They have their swimming pools full of money that they burn after they take a dip. Of course this is just the corporations - the actual artists are still starving. If you want change you put the thumbscrews to them. You say, go to hell. If they try to persecute you for it you point out that they have no clothes. The inertia and corruption of our legal system may still punish you but if you are like me: you don't care, you know you are right. Strike me down and I will become more powerful than you can ever imagine and all that. Force is what is needed right now, our social fabric is sick and the bastards are trying to play smoke and mirrors to keep us from treating the disease as long as possible.
Awww, you didn't bite. Even after stating it is a trap it is still a trap. If I don't get the opportunity to exercise my right to throw a wrench in the works then my secondary objective is to instigate discussion which reverses the double-speak perpetrated by the content industry in general. I hope to seed ideas, coherent, insightful, fair, demanding, and true enough that others will take notice and either emulate these thoughts or build on them with their own. My ultimate goal is to clone myself into a million monkeys throwing a wrench into the works. The content industry faces strife either way. If it is allowed to sink into obscurity then we lose so I'll do my part and keep it up - downloading everything I can get my grubby hands on in the meantime.
If anyone is interested, I've seeded this idea on the: isoHunt Forums as well. It got off to a rocky start there but it is a specialized community well suited to developing this stance.
Also, the very first place I posted this stance began in this: This article over on ArsTechnica. I've also sent emails to The Pirate Bay and TorrentFreak to continue to sow the seeds of discontent.
Um, exactly how do you think to bait a trap other than a proclamation nailed to the door in public? I'd like a trial by a jury of my peers please. Now, this is how they've fucked you over so slowly it escaped your attention span.
Copyright is portrayed as a contract. Thats just to get peoples hopes up. With the spirit of copyright he should just be able to go to his favorite torrent site and download it for free. Fuck the corporate perpetual welfare tax. The people who threw off the yoke of British oppression were some pretty smart dudes and they weighed the balance of what is good for the individual and what is good for culture: you know winning the rest of the world over with your ideals so they'll be more like you and less likely to lob a nuclear weapon at you... Politicians and lobby groups are in collusion. Sonny Bono, a musician with a large base of created works was responsible for pushing one of the extensions through. Conflict of interest? Happens all the time, just look away and ignore the man behind the curtain. I believe that you've swallowed the propaganda that authority has coddled you with since you were a child. The real world is full of crooks and liars, usually they wear suits.
I respectfully disagree. Content industries have stolen from me countless derivative works and from who would have been the creators of them innumerable dollars. It is more of vigilante justice: they have harmed the potential of so many things that could have contributed to my culture that I don't mind harming them back in the only thing that gets through their thick skulls: money.
Thank you very much I had hoped to spark some discussion and with you I have succeeded. My "moral right" is more of a "moral outrage" and that stems from the perceptions I've gathered over time observing how Content associations like the MPAA and the RIAA outright manipulate and misrepresent issues that are of public interest. It is just not right: they are bastards.
Content in the figurative, represented today by the Motion Picture Association of America and the Recording Industry Association of America. Both are pushing their agendas and manipulating discussion according to their goals. Time to poke back just because their assholes.
What irritates me are the secondary effects of Hollywood trying to make their last gasp. Bad legislation such as the Digital Millennium Copyright Act which prevents many legitimate and useful consumer devices from entering the market - even here in Canada where it is not law. Hollywood is dead they just don't know it yet, have you noticed that machinima is steadily improving? nVidia's Fermi graphics processor already renders images that are indistinguishable from real life. Throw in some voice-synthesis software and some directing software and anyone with the time to render will be able to best Hollywood's stranglehold on entertainment. Maybe they do see that and thats why their scared as shit to lock up everything they do have hoping it will actually still have any value twenty years from now.
Actually I have nothing to lose. What are they going to do, render a judgement for $stupid_amount_of_cash against me? Yeah good luck against someone who is not a materialist. And here in Canada our prisons aren't the meat grinders like down there in the states. It would suck but I'd feel good about the whole thing. Fuck them. My post is contrary to the line the MPAA/RIAA continually spoon-feed to the sheep and it highlights a dissenting point of view. Something that is on the wane apparently between your two (man a binary view on issues is stupid) parties.
Actually if I was ever charged I'm sure the EFF would be interested in what I have to say. Me against billions of dollars in funding for lawyers? Would be a fun fight so fuck them.
Ok, who is Ron Paul? This feeling has been building in me over time as I begin to understand the damage content industries are doing to the average citizen. Wouldn't you like to have a device you could plug into your home network that you would insert DVDs into and it would rip them then stream them over your home network to any compliant extender? Too bad, we're going to take our DMCA and go home. Wait till we get Selectable Output Control passed...
I'll tell you what I think and it is in the public domain for anyone to use. If your nation is too backwards to allow a public domain then I grant you an unlimited license to use in any manner you see fit with or without attribution.
I'm a privateer. I decided to become one recently. What sparked this decision is the fact that content industries are stealing from me. When copyright was first introduced it was for a period of fourteen years which allowed the creator time to make a profit off of their work even with primitive dissemination systems of the time. After that period it expired and entered the public domain where it would join other works in a rich mosaic for future works to draw from. This is dead. Over the years copyright terms have been extended to the point where there effectively is no public domain anymore. The content industry plays lip-service to the issue, they insist that there is a public domain but when every work is at least life of author plus seventy-five years or so there is in reality no public domain from my life's point of view. I will never see Alien (1979) enter the public domain. I will never see a new original movie based off that setting and characters. I will never see the iron grip of control loosened and in fact I'm sure content is planning more extensions to the terms. Government is complicit in this, politicians have accepted bribes, er.. campaign donations, in exchange for listening to these idiotic and greedy lobbies and passing the appropriate legislation right on cue like their training taught them. Even if magically there are no more extensions to copyright by the time current terms expire the works in question will be irrelevant. No one will be interested in them any more as their times have passed. This gutting of the copyright agreement between publishers and citizens has resulted in copyright not being copyright anymore: it is now a form of property and you will pay for every single last use. In response to this wholesale theft from me I have decided to liberate what I see fit. Go to hell content. I will take whatever I like as you are raping and pillaging through my cultural tapestry. The day I stop will be the day there is an actual agreement restored. I would be willing to settle for twenty years for a copyright term which is even more generous than the original fourteen. With a twenty year period I would also like to see as a punishment for twisting our heritage that only copyrights younger than ten years would be protected from the start. In another ten you'd be up to your twenty. Bite me content you're a parasite and you are stealing from me directly. Anything 1989 and older is a moral right to me and until you stop reneging on the social contract everything newer is as well.
The US is an Empire. The war in Iraq was a war to secure resources; freedom (or so) for Iraqis is a non-necessary secondary result. The war in Afghanistan is the actual war against in-the-mud thinking but there is no money there so it is neglected. There was a time that the word Citizen meant something in the US. Now, congress-critters think of people in terms of "consumers". People at the trough diligently waiting for slaughter at the whim of their master. It is long past the time to question authority - in fact it is getting close to the time to shoot some authority around. This saddens me: the focus in government in the West is becoming what is good for a few not what is good for society.
The sad part is how well the US and UK have been respecting Citizen rights lately. Maybe the issue is systemic instead of an isolated act of stupidity.
So the United Nations established under Western ideals has averaged to the point where they are no better in protecting our values of plurality and free-thought than China? Really? Color me shocked, guess those trade balances are more important than whether or not some person gets their head smashed-in in the back room.
You know what, I just went there and the description says: "lavish graphics" so I looked at the screenshot. I just finished playing Crysis man. I'll probably boot up Civ 4 or Gal Civ 2 before I go to bed. Linux is great for everything but games. Perhaps the reason this situation exists is that open has not progressed much beyond code. Operating systems and games both require an awful lot of talent - but with games its talent in content creation tools not emacs. Both an OS and a game have extremely high values associated with their development. Open gaming development is fractured when contrasted with the efficient networking that has made an Open OS a reality. As there are significant code repositories the only thing that will enable commercial quality open games is corresponding repositories of sounds, textures, geometry, and engines. Until the network for open game components in totality exists then open games will always pale against well funded commercial ventures.
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We have a fundamental differing. This is civil disobedience, I am inciting my peers to go out find their congressman and hang him. I am fully convicted in my beliefs and if you can't handle my truth instead of double-dog-daring me to perform a childish stunt justify the obscenity that the MPAA and RIAA represent.
Who signed it? I did. I declare myself a sovereignty unto myself in this domain. Please add a charge of sedition for when I eventually get my day in court. It will make for great pomp and circumstance.
Also, the following outlines a contrary view to the line associations in the content industry such as the MPAA and RIAA lie to citizens with. They claim I am stealing from them when I download a 30 year old movie. I counterclaim that they have stolen from me the heritage that composes our culture. If we had a properly working copyright system there is no reason you shouldn't be able to log onto your favorite torrent sites and download movies, music, books, and software after a truly reasonable period of time had passed. People focus on what is, not what is missing. Restrictive copyright has stolen from all of us works other people would have made using the characters and settings of existing works. These derivative creators would have also made their own money on the new work. By manipulating laws through lobbying and lying for their own best interests the existing content industry in general is stealing things that could and should have been - from all of us.
The point is that it is the public domain. I won't sell it but I will happily let you download it from me. The public part is the greatest heist of the 20th century. We've been ripped-off. Time to kick the thief in the teeth.
The point is that they claim to own it when they have no right to do so. It's like a shady character opening his trench-coat to sell you a rolex in the back alley. Why should you pay for something that by all rights is part of our common culture? How does it promote the progress of the arts to perpetuate this corporate welfare tax? Its mine and I'm taking it.
Because as another stated the boycott is only legal because it is ineffective. Content industries are laughing all the way to the bank. They have their swimming pools full of money that they burn after they take a dip. Of course this is just the corporations - the actual artists are still starving. If you want change you put the thumbscrews to them. You say, go to hell. If they try to persecute you for it you point out that they have no clothes. The inertia and corruption of our legal system may still punish you but if you are like me: you don't care, you know you are right. Strike me down and I will become more powerful than you can ever imagine and all that. Force is what is needed right now, our social fabric is sick and the bastards are trying to play smoke and mirrors to keep us from treating the disease as long as possible.
Awww, you didn't bite. Even after stating it is a trap it is still a trap. If I don't get the opportunity to exercise my right to throw a wrench in the works then my secondary objective is to instigate discussion which reverses the double-speak perpetrated by the content industry in general. I hope to seed ideas, coherent, insightful, fair, demanding, and true enough that others will take notice and either emulate these thoughts or build on them with their own. My ultimate goal is to clone myself into a million monkeys throwing a wrench into the works. The content industry faces strife either way. If it is allowed to sink into obscurity then we lose so I'll do my part and keep it up - downloading everything I can get my grubby hands on in the meantime.
If anyone is interested, I've seeded this idea on the: isoHunt Forums as well. It got off to a rocky start there but it is a specialized community well suited to developing this stance.
Also, the very first place I posted this stance began in this: This article over on ArsTechnica. I've also sent emails to The Pirate Bay and TorrentFreak to continue to sow the seeds of discontent.
Um, exactly how do you think to bait a trap other than a proclamation nailed to the door in public? I'd like a trial by a jury of my peers please. Now, this is how they've fucked you over so slowly it escaped your attention span.
Thank you, that was put so well I just might steal it! :)
For better or worse sometimes you have to pick your line and take a stand. Why else do we even live?
Copyright is portrayed as a contract. Thats just to get peoples hopes up. With the spirit of copyright he should just be able to go to his favorite torrent site and download it for free. Fuck the corporate perpetual welfare tax. The people who threw off the yoke of British oppression were some pretty smart dudes and they weighed the balance of what is good for the individual and what is good for culture: you know winning the rest of the world over with your ideals so they'll be more like you and less likely to lob a nuclear weapon at you... Politicians and lobby groups are in collusion. Sonny Bono, a musician with a large base of created works was responsible for pushing one of the extensions through. Conflict of interest? Happens all the time, just look away and ignore the man behind the curtain. I believe that you've swallowed the propaganda that authority has coddled you with since you were a child. The real world is full of crooks and liars, usually they wear suits.
I respectfully disagree. Content industries have stolen from me countless derivative works and from who would have been the creators of them innumerable dollars. It is more of vigilante justice: they have harmed the potential of so many things that could have contributed to my culture that I don't mind harming them back in the only thing that gets through their thick skulls: money.
Thank you very much I had hoped to spark some discussion and with you I have succeeded. My "moral right" is more of a "moral outrage" and that stems from the perceptions I've gathered over time observing how Content associations like the MPAA and the RIAA outright manipulate and misrepresent issues that are of public interest. It is just not right: they are bastards.
Content in the figurative, represented today by the Motion Picture Association of America and the Recording Industry Association of America. Both are pushing their agendas and manipulating discussion according to their goals. Time to poke back just because their assholes.
What irritates me are the secondary effects of Hollywood trying to make their last gasp. Bad legislation such as the Digital Millennium Copyright Act which prevents many legitimate and useful consumer devices from entering the market - even here in Canada where it is not law. Hollywood is dead they just don't know it yet, have you noticed that machinima is steadily improving? nVidia's Fermi graphics processor already renders images that are indistinguishable from real life. Throw in some voice-synthesis software and some directing software and anyone with the time to render will be able to best Hollywood's stranglehold on entertainment. Maybe they do see that and thats why their scared as shit to lock up everything they do have hoping it will actually still have any value twenty years from now.
Actually I have nothing to lose. What are they going to do, render a judgement for $stupid_amount_of_cash against me? Yeah good luck against someone who is not a materialist. And here in Canada our prisons aren't the meat grinders like down there in the states. It would suck but I'd feel good about the whole thing. Fuck them. My post is contrary to the line the MPAA/RIAA continually spoon-feed to the sheep and it highlights a dissenting point of view. Something that is on the wane apparently between your two (man a binary view on issues is stupid) parties.
Actually if I was ever charged I'm sure the EFF would be interested in what I have to say. Me against billions of dollars in funding for lawyers? Would be a fun fight so fuck them.
Ok, who is Ron Paul? This feeling has been building in me over time as I begin to understand the damage content industries are doing to the average citizen. Wouldn't you like to have a device you could plug into your home network that you would insert DVDs into and it would rip them then stream them over your home network to any compliant extender? Too bad, we're going to take our DMCA and go home. Wait till we get Selectable Output Control passed...
I'll tell you what I think and it is in the public domain for anyone to use. If your nation is too backwards to allow a public domain then I grant you an unlimited license to use in any manner you see fit with or without attribution.
I'm a privateer. I decided to become one recently. What sparked this decision is the fact that content industries are stealing from me. When copyright was first introduced it was for a period of fourteen years which allowed the creator time to make a profit off of their work even with primitive dissemination systems of the time. After that period it expired and entered the public domain where it would join other works in a rich mosaic for future works to draw from. This is dead. Over the years copyright terms have been extended to the point where there effectively is no public domain anymore. The content industry plays lip-service to the issue, they insist that there is a public domain but when every work is at least life of author plus seventy-five years or so there is in reality no public domain from my life's point of view. I will never see Alien (1979) enter the public domain. I will never see a new original movie based off that setting and characters. I will never see the iron grip of control loosened and in fact I'm sure content is planning more extensions to the terms. Government is complicit in this, politicians have accepted bribes, er.. campaign donations, in exchange for listening to these idiotic and greedy lobbies and passing the appropriate legislation right on cue like their training taught them. Even if magically there are no more extensions to copyright by the time current terms expire the works in question will be irrelevant. No one will be interested in them any more as their times have passed. This gutting of the copyright agreement between publishers and citizens has resulted in copyright not being copyright anymore: it is now a form of property and you will pay for every single last use. In response to this wholesale theft from me I have decided to liberate what I see fit. Go to hell content. I will take whatever I like as you are raping and pillaging through my cultural tapestry. The day I stop will be the day there is an actual agreement restored. I would be willing to settle for twenty years for a copyright term which is even more generous than the original fourteen. With a twenty year period I would also like to see as a punishment for twisting our heritage that only copyrights younger than ten years would be protected from the start. In another ten you'd be up to your twenty. Bite me content you're a parasite and you are stealing from me directly. Anything 1989 and older is a moral right to me and until you stop reneging on the social contract everything newer is as well.
You sound Canadian eh, definitely not American and New Yorkers would eat you for breakfast with a smidgen left over for lunch.
The US is an Empire. The war in Iraq was a war to secure resources; freedom (or so) for Iraqis is a non-necessary secondary result. The war in Afghanistan is the actual war against in-the-mud thinking but there is no money there so it is neglected. There was a time that the word Citizen meant something in the US. Now, congress-critters think of people in terms of "consumers". People at the trough diligently waiting for slaughter at the whim of their master. It is long past the time to question authority - in fact it is getting close to the time to shoot some authority around. This saddens me: the focus in government in the West is becoming what is good for a few not what is good for society.
The sad part is how well the US and UK have been respecting Citizen rights lately. Maybe the issue is systemic instead of an isolated act of stupidity.
So the United Nations established under Western ideals has averaged to the point where they are no better in protecting our values of plurality and free-thought than China? Really? Color me shocked, guess those trade balances are more important than whether or not some person gets their head smashed-in in the back room.
You know what, I just went there and the description says: "lavish graphics" so I looked at the screenshot. I just finished playing Crysis man. I'll probably boot up Civ 4 or Gal Civ 2 before I go to bed. Linux is great for everything but games. Perhaps the reason this situation exists is that open has not progressed much beyond code. Operating systems and games both require an awful lot of talent - but with games its talent in content creation tools not emacs. Both an OS and a game have extremely high values associated with their development. Open gaming development is fractured when contrasted with the efficient networking that has made an Open OS a reality. As there are significant code repositories the only thing that will enable commercial quality open games is corresponding repositories of sounds, textures, geometry, and engines. Until the network for open game components in totality exists then open games will always pale against well funded commercial ventures.