I'm part of the CPP for Windows 2000 and have been running Beta 3 and now RC1 for a while on my home machine (Wanna see what Linux is up against.) And while I can't speak for corporate environments I can speak from end user experience. Believe it or not I haven't had Windows 2000 crash even once on me...now I am not saying that it never crashes, but in my experience it really is not that bad.
Bloated and slow? Oh yeah, but to be taken seriously by the Linux community...yes.
I'm just saying...if it doesn't work on alphas or not, it really doesn't matter. We can't just ignore it. It's coming...maybe this year or next. But it's still coming. It's not yet time to sing the song of victory. We must fight 'till the very end!
I'm sorry but I just don't agree with the whole RTFM and 'things should stay difficult' calling that some people constantly shout out and hold in front of peoples' noses with pride.
Software is for the user...the end user shouldn't have to worry about installing. It's for the geeks to guide the hands of users so that their life is about getting what they need (or want) to do done. I happen to like to code, and to read manuals and all that...but the average user doesn't and shouldn't be bothered by details. It's up to them if they want to learn something new. But they shouldn't be forced to. And then I've heard the response - well then they shouldn't be using Linux. Well the cry was for world domination, and that will never ever come about by creating a world full of computer geeks because believe it or not...some people just don't care about computers.
I wasn't too sure on this view until a few weeks ago my boss found me endlessly searching through a manual to do something that he knew how to do. He said, "Why didn't you just come ask? It would have been a lot quicker and you could have been getting a lot more done."
And that's when it clicked. I could keep reading the manual, but sometimes it makes more sense to get help from others without doing everything possible before you crawl in defeat to the gurus.
Anyway, all I'm trying to say is that I believe that your view though understandable (hey I used to think like you) is totally unrealistic and counterproductive: for real world situation...and the world domination of Linux.
Embrace the user...for he is our ammo in the fight against proprietary injustice!
I really like the idea of having the ALSA code added to the kernel. This will increase the multimedia viability of the system as a whole...which is a plus...and a needed step towards world domination;)
My monitor is 19 inches and I have a very nice sound system on my computer...not to mention it's in my bedroom next to where all my friends hang out when I'm home from college. I don't have enough room to put a large TV in here on top of everything else (all geeky) that's in here. So it makes perfect sense for me to emulate the PSX...not to mention it's just cool in a techy sort of way.
Oh yeah...and about the comment a few posts up in the thread
The software mode works pretty good for me seeing that I've got a PII 450 but the D3D mode with my Voodoo II doesn't have textures unless I enable managed textures and once I do that the emulation becomes so slow that it annoys me to much to play. But overall I'm happy that bleem! was finally released. I've been waiting for a long time to use this silly bit of code and now I have it and I'm smiling:) I'm not worried about the compat. issues that are running amok. I'm sure they will be worked out with time. Randy, their coder, seems like he knows what he's doing. Alright I'm gonna go play Megaman X4 some more now.
Sony can show off their PSX2 all they want if they continue to do what they've been doing with PSX. With the freedom they give their developers we are bound to see lots of great games.
Nintendo on the other hand has had problems with game development from the launch of the N64. At least I think so. He can go on and on about how it takes more than hardware and I point to PSX with it's less than grand hardware specs but with games that keep me coming back again and again. The recent Nintendo games are childish and lack a depth that I feel from the old NES. Zelda64 could have been much better in my opinion if a few of the corny childish aspects of the game were toned down. Kids would have loved it as much...and the older fans of the series could hold their heads up with pride at a great game. But as it is now...a lot of people that loved the original Zelda are saying how much they love the game (don't get me wrong I like it too) but under their breath and when they're alone they are saddened by direction Nintendo has taken. They aim at kids when they could make everyone happy. Oh well.
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Well the modem is included with the system...seeing that I have on right next to me and it came with the modem.
(It rules by the way. I have sonic and soul calibur and I'm having a blast.)
What's wrong with Everquest? I play it and have tons of fun doing it. Isn't that what a game is for. If there is a niche why not fill it.
I'm part of the CPP for Windows 2000 and have been running Beta 3 and now RC1 for a while on my home machine (Wanna see what Linux is up against.) And while I can't speak for corporate environments I can speak from end user experience. Believe it or not I haven't had Windows 2000 crash even once on me...now I am not saying that it never crashes, but in my experience it really is not that bad.
Bloated and slow? Oh yeah, but to be taken seriously by the Linux community...yes.
I'm just saying...if it doesn't work on alphas or not, it really doesn't matter. We can't just ignore it. It's coming...maybe this year or next. But it's still coming. It's not yet time to sing the song of victory. We must fight 'till the very end!
I'm sorry but I just don't agree with the whole RTFM and 'things should stay difficult' calling that some people constantly shout out and hold in front of peoples' noses with pride.
Software is for the user...the end user shouldn't have to worry about installing. It's for the geeks to guide the hands of users so that their life is about getting what they need (or want) to do done. I happen to like to code, and to read manuals and all that...but the average user doesn't and shouldn't be bothered by details. It's up to them if they want to learn something new. But they shouldn't be forced to. And then I've heard the response - well then they shouldn't be using Linux. Well the cry was for world domination, and that will never ever come about by creating a world full of computer geeks because believe it or not...some people just don't care about computers.
I wasn't too sure on this view until a few weeks ago my boss found me endlessly searching through a manual to do something that he knew how to do. He said, "Why didn't you just come ask? It would have been a lot quicker and you could have been getting a lot more done."
And that's when it clicked. I could keep reading the manual, but sometimes it makes more sense to get help from others without doing everything possible before you crawl in defeat to the gurus.
Anyway, all I'm trying to say is that I believe that your view though understandable (hey I used to think like you) is totally unrealistic and counterproductive: for real world situation...and the world domination of Linux.
Embrace the user...for he is our ammo in the fight against proprietary injustice!
I really like the idea of having the ALSA code added to the kernel. This will increase the multimedia viability of the system as a whole...which is a plus...and a needed step towards world domination ;)
Maybe I'm a fool or just a lover of the law.
But I paid for bleem! and I have paid for all my playstation games.
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And I don't own a PSX console. I only emulate.
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Sony has a new paying customer.
Emulation could be such a goldmine if only it wasn't scorned.
My monitor is 19 inches and I have a very nice sound system on my computer...not to mention it's in my bedroom next to where all my friends hang out when I'm home from college. I don't have enough room to put a large TV in here on top of everything else (all geeky) that's in here. So it makes perfect sense for me to emulate the PSX...not to mention it's just cool in a techy sort of way.
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Oh yeah...and about the comment a few posts up in the thread
Wine is not an emulator
Just my $.02
It doesn't run horribly for me in software mode. (and even that runs better than the demo did for me.)
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So D3D has some problems right now....oh well, I'm just happy I finally have a build of the
The D3D issues will work themselves out quickly with a few bug fixes. Don't worry, be happy.
The software mode works pretty good for me seeing that I've got a PII 450 but the D3D mode with my Voodoo II doesn't have textures unless I enable managed textures and once I do that the emulation becomes so slow that it annoys me to much to play. But overall I'm happy that bleem! was finally released. I've been waiting for a long time to use this silly bit of code and now I have it and I'm smiling :) I'm not worried about the compat. issues that are running amok. I'm sure they will be worked out with time. Randy, their coder, seems like he knows what he's doing. Alright I'm gonna go play Megaman X4 some more now.
Sony can show off their PSX2 all they want if they continue to do what they've been doing with PSX. With the freedom they give their developers we are bound to see lots of great games.
Nintendo on the other hand has had problems with game development from the launch of the N64. At least I think so. He can go on and on about how it takes more than hardware and I point to PSX with it's less than grand hardware specs but with games that keep me coming back again and again. The recent Nintendo games are childish and lack a depth that I feel from the old NES. Zelda64 could have been much better in my opinion if a few of the corny childish aspects of the game were toned down. Kids would have loved it as much...and the older fans of the series could hold their heads up with pride at a great game. But as it is now...a lot of people that loved the original Zelda are saying how much they love the game (don't get me wrong I like it too) but under their breath and when they're alone they are saddened by direction Nintendo has taken. They aim at kids when they could make everyone happy. Oh well.