How about immediatly? I can't immagine anyone paying... and just how do they expect to monitor and people and figure out how many hours people are watching on their own machines?
Anyone know how this will affect DivX, wmf, and other codecs out there that are based on mp4?
Have you already forgotten the customer is always right? Have you forgotten slashdot wouldn't exist without "customers" or visitors in your case?
Actualy, the "Customers" are the advertizers. Our role is "product". At least thats how most online "content" sites operate.
Slashdot is a little better, imo. I'd rather have a couple guys who don't really think about what their doing then a person who cold-heartedly crunches all the numbers. If/. really just wanted profits, they'd kill commentation entirely, and just go with a cliping service (the main page)
Actually he said it occupied a middle ground between a tip jar and a subscription system, he didn't say which side of the middle ground it was on. (It's not more a tip jar then anything else)
A simple solution would be to put a checkmark next to the +1 and, AC checkboxes that we could click, say, "no reposting", a marker (hidden even) could be placed in the comment header or body signaling that it can't be automatically reposted.
another solution would be for alterslash to collect the usernames of people who would allow their comments to be reposted, this wouldn't work very well (most people wouldn't know about it), but would require no work on your part.
Of course, you're totally within your rights to ask them to shut down based on their copying of your copyrighted data, but the whole "the posters will be pissed off" argument just seems like an excuse to avoid being like the RIAA. But remember, they are going around saying "We need to do this for the artist!" while really they only have their profit motive in mind.
Also, about copyright, you don't have to protect it in every case. That's just trademarks. The film It's A Wonderful Life used to play all the time on different stations at Christmas, then some company discovered that they had the copyright, and now it only plays on NBC. Copyrights, (and patents) can be applied whenever or however you want. Only trademarks need to be protected from entering the common vernacular. Of course, I'm not a lawyer, so I don't really know all the ins and outs of copyright law (and neither are you).
If users have a problem with alterslash printing their comments, just tell 'em to talk to them. It's not your responsibility.
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Alterslash is actualy a pretty cool site, now that I've seen it. I don't really see how you guys can go after them for the comments when you said yourself you don't have any rights to them, perhaps you should leave it up to the individual posters to take it up with that site if they have a problem with being reposted.
Of course, the site does give everything the "82%" take from/.
I wish the junk fax law would be applied to email, but for now we're getting things like making it illegal to forge headers and allowing an opt out list and that's it. And those are only state by state things.
Um, you guys realize that the term "Open Source" here has absolutly nothing to do with Open Source Software, right?
I mean, it's kind of intresting, I guess. But it dosn't really have anything to do with the OSS "movement" or anything. It certanly isn't some fallout from the "revolution".
Well, ElcomSoft being outside of the US might not have to pay the fine, but I suppose they could be bared from doing business in the US, and possibly have any US assets ceased.
On the other hand:
If not, ElcomSoft could be out $2.25 million dollars, and the USA could find itself cold-shouldered by a lot of countries with less draconian copyright laws
Fortunately, most of the rest of the world is moving towards the same kind of draconian copyright laws. And by "fortunately" I mean "unfortunately"
They want to use email, but can't accept that people don't want crap to be mass-mailed to them. This is a sure sign that China's only interest in the Internet is monetary, and that it is our duty to block off abusive.cn mail servers to show them that this bullshit doesn't play on the open Internet.
The artical is talking about China banning spamming outright which is a lot more then any leader in the US is even willing to think about. They do accept that people don't want spam and are looking to an internal solution to the problem.
That's true, but only relevant if you assume that 64-bit addressing gets you 2^64 bytes of memory. In reality, many of those bits are used for flags and other non-addressing things, so assume more like 2^48 bytes of memory
Uh. 2^64 - 2^48 = 2^63.999977986054, not 2^32. The system you are describing would have 256 terabytes of usable ram (2^48) and 15.9998 exabytes of 'flags and stuff'.
So, they plan to search through every single chain of text for every single document in their database for every check?
I don't really think that's going to scale very well, unless they use some shortcut that cuts out a lot of the useful data.
For example the phrase "I enjoy Nintendo" has the following chains: "I", "I enjoy", "enjoy Nintendo" and "I enjoy Nintendo."... I suppose you could set a cap on the size of a chain (a large chain would have a small chain base). But still, that's a hell of a lot of data processing. I'm not sure they could honestly do it if they had a DB of say, a million documents.
And as far as these guys turning around and making a profit of this type of thing, well, I don't really think a teacher has the legal authority to turn over documents like that, they don't own the copyright to begin with.
The internet, which once held the promise to liberate 'the masses', allow point to point communication on a scale never before seen, is now being co-opted by the mass media by force of law. That's just wonderfull.
In almost any meta story which incites me to comment on the slashdot state of affairs I deride it. I don't see how paying them would be "putting my money where my mouth is"
Only like the first two thirds or something of the users get modds. So you'll have to be around untill/. gets x users were x = 1.5*u where u is your UID.
This business model is almost never used in the real world, and there's a good reason for that. people don't want to have to worry about things like reloads, comments changing, etc. You'd probably make about the same amount of money charging everyone $6/year rather then having a lot of people worry about not waiting their allotted HTTP requests. You're going to end up with a lot of people not signing up for this or a lot of people just blocking the ads because of the inherent complexity.
Yeh, K5 has really lost its focus. It's no longer about tech and has become a politics page. I think it has something to do with the fact that people are only going to sit down and write long articals for free unless its something they really care about or if they have to (school assignment)
Anyway, the k5 software is free and really nice. Download it and start your own tech-based site and request short articals. See how it goes, I'd probably visit.
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How about immediatly? I can't immagine anyone paying... and just how do they expect to monitor and people and figure out how many hours people are watching on their own machines?
Anyone know how this will affect DivX, wmf, and other codecs out there that are based on mp4?
Have you already forgotten the customer is always right? Have you forgotten slashdot wouldn't exist without "customers" or visitors in your case?
/. really just wanted profits, they'd kill commentation entirely, and just go with a cliping service (the main page)
Actualy, the "Customers" are the advertizers. Our role is "product". At least thats how most online "content" sites operate.
Slashdot is a little better, imo. I'd rather have a couple guys who don't really think about what their doing then a person who cold-heartedly crunches all the numbers. If
/. moderators already work for free. They are drawn from the userbase.
Look at the nubers CT is giving out. only 18% of the people who look at slashdot even look at the comments at all
Your post made no sense at all.
Think about what you want to say and write it out clearly so that people can understand.
Actually he said it occupied a middle ground between a tip jar and a subscription system, he didn't say which side of the middle ground it was on. (It's not more a tip jar then anything else)
A simple solution would be to put a checkmark next to the +1 and, AC checkboxes that we could click, say, "no reposting", a marker (hidden even) could be placed in the comment header or body signaling that it can't be automatically reposted.
another solution would be for alterslash to collect the usernames of people who would allow their comments to be reposted, this wouldn't work very well (most people wouldn't know about it), but would require no work on your part.
Of course, you're totally within your rights to ask them to shut down based on their copying of your copyrighted data, but the whole "the posters will be pissed off" argument just seems like an excuse to avoid being like the RIAA. But remember, they are going around saying "We need to do this for the artist!" while really they only have their profit motive in mind.
Also, about copyright, you don't have to protect it in every case. That's just trademarks. The film It's A Wonderful Life used to play all the time on different stations at Christmas, then some company discovered that they had the copyright, and now it only plays on NBC. Copyrights, (and patents) can be applied whenever or however you want. Only trademarks need to be protected from entering the common vernacular. Of course, I'm not a lawyer, so I don't really know all the ins and outs of copyright law (and neither are you).
If users have a problem with alterslash printing their comments, just tell 'em to talk to them. It's not your responsibility.
Alterslash is actualy a pretty cool site, now that I've seen it. I don't really see how you guys can go after them for the comments when you said yourself you don't have any rights to them, perhaps you should leave it up to the individual posters to take it up with that site if they have a problem with being reposted.
/.
Of course, the site does give everything the "82%" take from
I wish the junk fax law would be applied to email, but for now we're getting things like making it illegal to forge headers and allowing an opt out list and that's it. And those are only state by state things.
Um, you guys realize that the term "Open Source" here has absolutly nothing to do with Open Source Software, right?
I mean, it's kind of intresting, I guess. But it dosn't really have anything to do with the OSS "movement" or anything. It certanly isn't some fallout from the "revolution".
Well, ElcomSoft being outside of the US might not have to pay the fine, but I suppose they could be bared from doing business in the US, and possibly have any US assets ceased.
On the other hand:
If not, ElcomSoft could be out $2.25 million dollars, and the USA could find itself cold-shouldered by a lot of countries with less draconian copyright laws
Fortunately, most of the rest of the world is moving towards the same kind of draconian copyright laws. And by "fortunately" I mean "unfortunately"
but then again, if you're going to look at porn you might as well make it Korean porn.
They want to use email, but can't accept that people don't want crap to be mass-mailed to them. This is a sure sign that China's only interest in the Internet is monetary, and that it is our duty to block off abusive .cn mail servers to show them that this bullshit doesn't play on the open Internet.
The artical is talking about China banning spamming outright which is a lot more then any leader in the US is even willing to think about. They do accept that people don't want spam and are looking to an internal solution to the problem.
That's true, but only relevant if you assume that 64-bit addressing gets you 2^64 bytes of memory. In reality, many of those bits are used for flags and other non-addressing things, so assume more like 2^48 bytes of memory
Uh. 2^64 - 2^48 = 2^63.999977986054, not 2^32. The system you are describing would have 256 terabytes of usable ram (2^48) and 15.9998 exabytes of 'flags and stuff'.
Not a very realistic computer system, I think
So, they plan to search through every single chain of text for every single document in their database for every check?
I don't really think that's going to scale very well, unless they use some shortcut that cuts out a lot of the useful data.
For example the phrase "I enjoy Nintendo" has the following chains: "I", "I enjoy", "enjoy Nintendo" and "I enjoy Nintendo."... I suppose you could set a cap on the size of a chain (a large chain would have a small chain base). But still, that's a hell of a lot of data processing. I'm not sure they could honestly do it if they had a DB of say, a million documents.
And as far as these guys turning around and making a profit of this type of thing, well, I don't really think a teacher has the legal authority to turn over documents like that, they don't own the copyright to begin with.
Hrm. I don't seem to ever hear about any viruses for the Java platform, even though it would theoreticaly be possible.
And what about perl!?
The internet, which once held the promise to liberate 'the masses', allow point to point communication on a scale never before seen, is now being co-opted by the mass media by force of law. That's just wonderfull.
Btw, I'm being sarcastic.
That's helarious, it would be funny if twix and snickers wern't made by the same company. but still, I laughed out loud. :)
Should be modded much higher!
In almost any meta story which incites me to comment on the slashdot state of affairs I deride it. I don't see how paying them would be "putting my money where my mouth is"
People would rather be ripped off for a dollar a year then have to worry constantly about how many pageviews they're wasting.
Only like the first two thirds or something of the users get modds. So you'll have to be around untill /. gets x users were x = 1.5*u where u is your UID.
This business model is almost never used in the real world, and there's a good reason for that. people don't want to have to worry about things like reloads, comments changing, etc. You'd probably make about the same amount of money charging everyone $6/year rather then having a lot of people worry about not waiting their allotted HTTP requests. You're going to end up with a lot of people not signing up for this or a lot of people just blocking the ads because of the inherent complexity.
Mods go to middle of the roaders, not the 'hardcore'. Not, even, the people with high karma. Slashdot is not a meritocracy, it's a mediocracy.
Yeh, K5 has really lost its focus. It's no longer about tech and has become a politics page. I think it has something to do with the fact that people are only going to sit down and write long articals for free unless its something they really care about or if they have to (school assignment)
Anyway, the k5 software is free and really nice. Download it and start your own tech-based site and request short articals. See how it goes, I'd probably visit.
The sound in Cantonese is vowel-less like "tongue" minus the "to." There is no direct transliteration using English phonetics.
Well, wouldn't 'ung' be an english version?