Venkman may well become a good debugger one day, but the version that comes with Mozilla 1.0 is a little more than a toy, a nice menu entry to have under "Web Development". It is absolutely unusable under real world situations. And the traditional lack of real documentation only adds to it uselessness.
Actually, the version of Venkman that came with Mozilla 1.0 had a reasonably useful walkthrough.
It even shows up as the #2 result of google search for venkman debugger. I know of a handful of people who found it quite useful in Real World Situations, I suspect there were a few more that I don't know. Did you have a specific complaint?
The version that comes with Mozilla 1.1b is light years ahead of the previous version in many respects, but users may still be confused, intimidated, or frustrated by it. Try reading the FAQ (the walkthrough hasn't been updated yet.) If you still don't get it, try asking on the netscape.public.mozilla.jsdebugger newsgroup on news.mozilla.org, or the #venkman channel on irc.mozilla.org.
Right now the newsgroup traffic is so slow that the chances your (reasonable, on-topic) post will get a response are near 100%. If you opt for IRC, be patient, sometimes neither of us are listening. Stick around and you'll get a response.
At this point in the project, what I really need is good feedback from the users...
What is confusing about the UI?
What don't you like?
What features are missing?
What bugs have you run into?
Without good, constructive feedback, it's going to be very hard to take the project to the next level.
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Actually, the version of Venkman that came with Mozilla 1.0 had a reasonably useful walkthrough. It even shows up as the #2 result of google search for venkman debugger. I know of a handful of people who found it quite useful in Real World Situations, I suspect there were a few more that I don't know. Did you have a specific complaint?
The version that comes with Mozilla 1.1b is light years ahead of the previous version in many respects, but users may still be confused, intimidated, or frustrated by it. Try reading the FAQ (the walkthrough hasn't been updated yet.) If you still don't get it, try asking on the netscape.public.mozilla.jsdebugger newsgroup on news.mozilla.org, or the #venkman channel on irc.mozilla.org.
Right now the newsgroup traffic is so slow that the chances your (reasonable, on-topic) post will get a response are near 100%. If you opt for IRC, be patient, sometimes neither of us are listening. Stick around and you'll get a response.
At this point in the project, what I really need is good feedback from the users...
Without good, constructive feedback, it's going to be very hard to take the project to the next level.
Rob.