Why must I waste my bandwidth and time, reading an MS website? Why should I read about Virus and Worm alerts at Slashdot and then wade thru all the patch issues? Why can't MS send atleast an email alert to Volume Licensees?
Are software users really liable for the behavior of third parties?
Now, assume SCO alleges that HP put SCOde into Windows, and you, a Windows user has to pay $1,500 per UnixWare license to cover your arse. Now, what MS is saying is this: Microsoft agreed to pay all legal fees for volume license customers who got sued because of Microsoft, but only up to the value of the software they bought.
In other words, even if MS pays you $200 per seat which is the cost of a Corporate license roughly, you're still facing a $1.300 liability from "litigious bastards" such as SCO!
Instead of suffering more virus attacks and Slammer worms and still being faced with litigation, why not switch over to Linux? Legal risk? Let SCO sue me first, then we'll see.
Now, assume SCO tells us: Hey, we claim that Windoze contains SCOde, so you gotta pay us $1,500 per license to avoid litigation...
Now, reading this:
In older contracts, Microsoft agreed to pay all legal fees for volume license customers who got sued because of Microsoft, but only up to the value of the software they bought.
But, my Corporate license was offered at a price of $120 per seat. So there's still a loss of $1,300 per seat, even if MS foots the bill!! Very clever, typical MS.
More than security issues, I'd like them to alert their customers for every vulnerability in their code, and send them updates and patches free of cost - not asking users to waste their bandwidths for 500MB Service Packs.
From the article: In older contracts, Microsoft agreed to pay all legal fees for volume license customers who got sued because of Microsoft, but only up to the value of the software they bought.
What if I'd pirated the damn thing??
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Have you ever watched a colony of penguins under attack from a few seals or bears. Nary a protest, just a little noise, and the hapless prey is simply devoured by the predator.
I think that Penguin Apathy beautifully reflects the feelings of the Linux User Community. The only defence for the penguins is by their sheer numbers. I see your point - we need to stand up to SCO and tell them on their face: Get Lost, We've got Better things To DO!
But then, who exactly is gonna bell the cat? ESR, Linus, Bruce and RMS have spoken, but they aren't directly affected by the SCO extortion gang. Corporates can't stand up as a gang, since most of them use similar tactics that SCO does - hell, I'd bet many Corporates would love to be in the same position as SCO - pay a few million - pick up Copyright - blast everyone else with that weapon! Excellent business strategy, in their eyes.
The only group that can pick up cudgels against SCO would be the Linux User Groups, Firms that promote Linux - IBM, HPaq, Siemens, SGI, RedHat, SuSE etc.; orgs like the FSF EFF etc. None of the above would be directly targeted by SCO - you can be sure.
Sometime back my sig was: Linux Users are Apathetic. Windoze Users are Pathetic.
US : Lots of noise, only 3 sane voices so far. ESR, RMS, Linus. Okay, Bruce. Germany: LinuxTAG kicks SCO, gets injunction. Australia: Fightback - no FUD please, we're Aussies. New Zealand: InstallFest proceeds smoothly despite arm twisting from big gorillas. Poland: Injunction. India : Please use OpenSource (President of India) Japan : Consortium of Electronics firms pledge to adopt Linux. Bride's personal visit futile. UK : Refer US, above. France: Do the French use computers?
Fine, but RedHat itself isn't, so SCO goes and sues RedHat at a later date.
Mark these words - they won't sue Red Hat, ever. Red Hat likely to fold over shortly like Netscape.
Why? 'Cos then they'd have to go after SuSE, Mandrake, TurboLinux and wait.. yes, SCAldera and the old SCO! Secondly, except Red Hat there's no decent firm in the US distributing GNU / Linux. (forget Lindows - those blokes paid extortion money to SCO)
Now, RedHat themselves are folding up, saying they'd become a project - not a product. With Netscape killed, and Mozilla shelved, there's little Corporate Action to promote GNU and Linux - atleast in the US.
SCO would thus never ever go after firms that are doomed anyways. After getting kicked by LinuxTAG in Germany, they'd rather not go after SuSE. Mandrake's been silent all along - but HP's pre-installing Mandrake on desktops - so looks like things are gettting better for them.
The only way for SCO to make any money from Linux is by extortion from top users. Going after firms that promote Linux is a colossal waste of time, money and any vestige of credibility SCO has.
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Er... how much for +1 Karma? Guess/. can make a pile by selling karma for just a penny. MS and SCO astroturfers would prolly shell out a billion.
Who the fuck modded my post Offtopic? Idiotic moderators abound at Slashdot, apparently. Here's SCO giving interviews saying that they're going after Enterprise Linux customers with demands for extortion money @ $1,500 per seat.
Does SCO genuinely come across as a company that tried to promote Unix on the Intel desktop? Sorry.
How the fuck is this YRO, BTW?? Shouldn't we moderate entire articles as Offtopic then??
1. Write software. 2. Take out a coyright in your name. 3. Apply GPL notices to code. 4. Publish code via ftp. 5. Send code to Source Forge and Freshmeat.
These days, with the DRM and the DMCA, it's tough getting a music file without DRM crap. What I'd like the MIT folks to do is this:
Get some objects on a table to dance, based on the music! And then we can have another Audiopad to capture the music from this dance - non DRM MP3....breakthrough!
To me, my time is better spent doing other things than "giving Linux a try," like, for instance, shagging my girlfriend.
I see now. Secretary Sally is your girlfriend, and you use Windows, read Slashdot and still have the time to er.. shag. Great! Completely believable.
It looks like you're writing a letter. Would you like help? * Get help writing the letter * Just type the letter without help * Don't show this tip again
Haha.. you missed the point. When Sally opens up another letter and says: Dear Egg Troll Shaggy,
she gets * GEt help writing this letter, all over again!
What part of "don't show this tip again" don't you understand?
And what part of Egg Troll are you, my friend?
ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER, DO YOU SPEAK IT?
I don't speak them, I simply screw them. The English, I mean, if you understand them.
I think you're the troll here. Don't be a cunt.
Again! You really got to CuntTroll yourself. Control yourself man.... Secondly, are motherfuckers always female? Something terribly wrong with your English, Logic and Thinking. Oh, I forgot.. you're after all, Egg Troll at Slashdot. Carry on.
the desire for independence from the US is going to be an increasingly important factor in driving Linux/OSS adoption throughout the world.
You nailed it! Just think at the resentment to H1Bs and the French in the US. Imagine Microsoft and Sun were French companies. Would the US think long and hard, and ponder over Gartner reports before jumping to Linux?
Jacques Chirac donating a few billions to unemployed Americans 'cos they lost their jobs to French giant Microsoft! Yeah.. now I can see resentment from both sides.
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Why must I waste my bandwidth and time, reading an MS website? Why should I read about Virus and Worm alerts at Slashdot and then wade thru all the patch issues? Why can't MS send atleast an email alert to Volume Licensees?
Ridiculous!
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Are software users really liable for the behavior of third parties?
Now, assume SCO alleges that HP put SCOde into Windows, and you, a Windows user has to pay $1,500 per UnixWare license to cover your arse. Now, what MS is saying is this:
Microsoft agreed to pay all legal fees for volume license customers who got sued because of Microsoft, but only up to the value of the software they bought.
In other words, even if MS pays you $200 per seat which is the cost of a Corporate license roughly, you're still facing a $1.300 liability from "litigious bastards" such as SCO!
Instead of suffering more virus attacks and Slammer worms and still being faced with litigation, why not switch over to Linux? Legal risk? Let SCO sue me first, then we'll see.
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Now, assume SCO tells us:
Hey, we claim that Windoze contains SCOde, so you gotta pay us $1,500 per license to avoid litigation...
Now, reading this:
In older contracts, Microsoft agreed to pay all legal fees for volume license customers who got sued because of Microsoft, but only up to the value of the software they bought.
But, my Corporate license was offered at a price of $120 per seat. So there's still a loss of $1,300 per seat, even if MS foots the bill!! Very clever, typical MS.
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But I was brought to Court for using Microsoft Products!!
If I'd been pirating Linux, who would've brought me to court?? It's GPL and free already, right?
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More than security issues, I'd like them to alert their customers for every vulnerability in their code, and send them updates and patches free of cost - not asking users to waste their bandwidths for 500MB Service Packs.
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From the article:
In older contracts, Microsoft agreed to pay all legal fees for volume license customers who got sued because of Microsoft, but only up to the value of the software they bought.
What if I'd pirated the damn thing??
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1. Open document editor - okay Word.
2. Type in some text
3. Click File--Save
4. Enter filename: Net
5. Done... the Net is saved!
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why wasn't WMA v8/v9 included in the test?
;-D.
/. use WMA at all?
Slashdot's agreement with MS precludes them from publishing Benchmarks and performance figures for their products, I guess
Secondly, does anyone at
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From the article:
the ActiveState Field Guide to Spam is a selection of the tricks
The words Active, Smart, Rich etc. are part of MSspeak - leave a bad taste..
providing examples taken from real-world spam messages.
Why not fictional world spam messages? You mean, all those enlargers I got over mail weren't real-world! Boo-hoo....
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I don't know of any area of the world where pengiuns and bears would interact. . . no. I really suggest you watch more discovery channel
Huh... I watched a furry white creature attacking penguins on Discovery Channel - I thought it'd be a Polar Bear, am I wrong?
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Have you ever watched a colony of penguins under attack from a few seals or bears. Nary a protest, just a little noise, and the hapless prey is simply devoured by the predator.
I think that Penguin Apathy beautifully reflects the feelings of the Linux User Community. The only defence for the penguins is by their sheer numbers. I see your point - we need to stand up to SCO and tell them on their face: Get Lost, We've got Better things To DO!
But then, who exactly is gonna bell the cat? ESR, Linus, Bruce and RMS have spoken, but they aren't directly affected by the SCO extortion gang. Corporates can't stand up as a gang, since most of them use similar tactics that SCO does - hell, I'd bet many Corporates would love to be in the same position as SCO - pay a few million - pick up Copyright - blast everyone else with that weapon! Excellent business strategy, in their eyes.
The only group that can pick up cudgels against SCO would be the Linux User Groups, Firms that promote Linux - IBM, HPaq, Siemens, SGI, RedHat, SuSE etc.; orgs like the FSF EFF etc. None of the above would be directly targeted by SCO - you can be sure.
Sometime back my sig was:
Linux Users are Apathetic.
Windoze Users are Pathetic.
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China: If you see SCO and SARS, kill SCO first.
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US : Lots of noise, only 3 sane voices so far. ESR, RMS, Linus. Okay, Bruce.
Germany: LinuxTAG kicks SCO, gets injunction.
Australia: Fightback - no FUD please, we're Aussies.
New Zealand: InstallFest proceeds smoothly despite arm twisting from big gorillas.
Poland: Injunction.
India : Please use OpenSource (President of India)
Japan : Consortium of Electronics firms pledge to adopt Linux. Bride's personal visit futile.
UK : Refer US, above.
France: Do the French use computers?
Please fill up for remaining countries....
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Fine, but RedHat itself isn't, so SCO goes and sues RedHat at a later date.
Mark these words - they won't sue Red Hat, ever. Red Hat likely to fold over shortly like Netscape.
Why? 'Cos then they'd have to go after SuSE, Mandrake, TurboLinux and wait.. yes, SCAldera and the old SCO! Secondly, except Red Hat there's no decent firm in the US distributing GNU / Linux. (forget Lindows - those blokes paid extortion money to SCO)
Now, RedHat themselves are folding up, saying they'd become a project - not a product. With Netscape killed, and Mozilla shelved, there's little Corporate Action to promote GNU and Linux - atleast in the US.
SCO would thus never ever go after firms that are doomed anyways. After getting kicked by LinuxTAG in Germany, they'd rather not go after SuSE. Mandrake's been silent all along - but HP's pre-installing Mandrake on desktops - so looks like things are gettting better for them.
The only way for SCO to make any money from Linux is by extortion from top users. Going after firms that promote Linux is a colossal waste of time, money and any vestige of credibility SCO has.
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As it is, their case is built mostly on hot air, so I can see their motivation in pushing for payment in advance.
The reverse Ghandicon for SCO:
1. At first, they sue.
2. Then they threaten and collect money -- SCO is here now.
3. Then they fight.
4. Then everybody ignores SCO.
Didn't we hear about this yesterday?
/. has a quota for SCO stories, and for weeks the quota is lying un-utilized.
/. is the best way to spread their FUD.
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1. Yes, but
2. SCO realises that getting abused at
3. CIOs and PHBs in the US are already writing checks to SCO.
4. CIOs and PHBs in Germnay, France, Asia and elsewhere are ROFLTAO...
5. Tune in for daily updates on the SCO extortion fund - brought to you by
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/. can make a pile by selling karma for just a penny. MS and SCO astroturfers would prolly shell out a billion.
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Er... how much for +1 Karma?
Guess
Your karma is no match for our Evil Moderators!
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I'm sure GNAA is part of the SCO FUD machine too!
You read them?? Set your threshold to 2, and GNAA won't harm you. OTOH, how do I avoid the SCO FUD?
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Who the fuck modded my post Offtopic? Idiotic moderators abound at Slashdot, apparently. Here's SCO giving interviews saying that they're going after Enterprise Linux customers with demands for extortion money @ $1,500 per seat.
Does SCO genuinely come across as a company that tried to promote Unix on the Intel desktop? Sorry.
How the fuck is this YRO, BTW?? Shouldn't we moderate entire articles as Offtopic then??
Moderators? Extremists, more likely.
Gah!
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Can't we just change YRO to "Legal Shit" and post all these stories under that? I could filter it a lot easier then.
/. is part of the SCO FUD machine. What else can explain non-story after non-story about SCO?
I suggest SCO gossip or SCOssip. It even appears
All the points mentioned in this article have been thrashed thread-bare at Slashdot. And yet, when McBride sneezes, it makes headlines at Slashdot.
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It's trying to help itself from Enterprises that went Linux.
Big difference.
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1. Write software.
2. Take out a coyright in your name.
3. Apply GPL notices to code.
4. Publish code via ftp.
5. Send code to Source Forge and Freshmeat.
Very difficult?
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These days, with the DRM and the DMCA, it's tough getting a music file without DRM crap. What I'd like the MIT folks to do is this:
Get some objects on a table to dance, based on the music! And then we can have another Audiopad to capture the music from this dance - non DRM MP3....breakthrough!
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Hi there, Mr.Egg Troll a.k.a Anonymous Coward...
To me, my time is better spent doing other things than "giving Linux a try," like, for instance, shagging my girlfriend.
I see now. Secretary Sally is your girlfriend, and you use Windows, read Slashdot and still have the time to er.. shag. Great! Completely believable.
It looks like you're writing a letter. Would you like help?
* Get help writing the letter
* Just type the letter without help
* Don't show this tip again
Haha.. you missed the point. When Sally opens up another letter and says:
Dear Egg Troll Shaggy,
she gets
* GEt help writing this letter, all over again!
What part of "don't show this tip again" don't you understand?
And what part of Egg Troll are you, my friend?
ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER, DO YOU SPEAK IT?
I don't speak them, I simply screw them. The English, I mean, if you understand them.
I think you're the troll here. Don't be a cunt.
Again! You really got to CuntTroll yourself. Control yourself man.... Secondly, are motherfuckers always female? Something terribly wrong with your English, Logic and Thinking. Oh, I forgot.. you're after all, Egg Troll at Slashdot. Carry on.
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the desire for independence from the US is going to be an increasingly important factor in driving Linux/OSS adoption throughout the world.
You nailed it! Just think at the resentment to H1Bs and the French in the US. Imagine Microsoft and Sun were French companies. Would the US think long and hard, and ponder over Gartner reports before jumping to Linux?
Jacques Chirac donating a few billions to unemployed Americans 'cos they lost their jobs to French giant Microsoft! Yeah.. now I can see resentment from both sides.
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