Write Sys-Con's advertisers, express how disappointed you are that they've chosen to associate their name with a disreputable company, and that you'll be taking that into account in future purchasing decisions.
Unfortunately, honesty is not a verifiable attribute. There's no way for sure to know that the programmer or engineer really is honest. If the code isn't auditable, we have to take their word for it.
Even if the code is auditable, if it's not auditable on the specific voting machine you're using you can't trust it.
Another difference between the problems listed with the low-tech solution and the high-tech is a difference in scale. It takes more effort to do any of the problems with paper ballots on a wide scale than it does to have a system that simply changes the recorded totals.
Except you forget one thing.. plurality is *still* getting in the wrong people, but with no real indication of how popular the third parties actually are.
This allows the government to deny third parties funding, participation in the debates, etc., etc. Approval will at least make it more difficult for the government to reasonably deny parties funding or participation in the process.
Unfortunately, the world needs to bend to the reality. The reality is most people are of the mindset "Math is hard, let's go shopping" and want nothing to do with even having to think so far as having to rank their choices, never mind be willing to trust some sort of mathematical formulae to figure out the winner that they couldn't do themselves.
While approval voting is not as good as Condorcet, it's still miles better than IRV, where voting for a party can actually *decrease* the chances of that same party winning.
No, if you actually *read* a site like Truth About Iraq and you don't see anything about a bright future actually existing. What you see is the opinions of people who are hard-working, full of life, and somewhat optimistic.
That's not news though, as anybody who's done any investigation into their culture will tell you.
What you find if you read the "truthaboutiraq" are only seven "myths", most of which are straw-men since they're generally not brought up by the liberal side, and of the two that aren't, they're not countered by any type of facts, but rather by opinion polls.
Guess what, opinion polls showed not too long ago that a majority of Americans felt Iraq was directly responsible for the 9/11 attacks. Opinion != Truth.
You'll also see a site that doesn't attempt counter the largest accusations against Bush & Co: That the war was undertaken in the wrong way for America, that Bush lied in convincing the American people to let it get done, that it does nothing to actually reduce terrorism that it's being used as a pretext to benefit certain oil industry insiders to the White House
Ooo.. lookie.. the cumulative number of people listening to radio increases over the years.
Ooo.. lookie.. the cumulative number of people born increases over the years.
Congratulations, you've just managed to find a (very poor) measure of population growth.
Every stat except the cumulative shows a downward trend. This includes the TSL (which I assume stands for Total Seconds Listened). More people, listening less. That certainly says something about the quality of radio, doesn't it?
Corner cases or not, opponents of the system will point them out, and likely get headlines doing so. This will convince many of the public to associate any alternate type of voting with "bad system"
Go with approval voting instead. It's both better than plurality and simpler than IRV.
Good lord....I remember watching that show in grade school.
Our computer teacher insisted that every friday we'd watch this program. Talk about dry, uninteresting crap, most of which we already knew. Common feeling in class was we were watching it cause the teacher was desparately out of his depth and hoping to keep up with us.
Never really knew the people who were in it though.
Does Walmart say "We want your profit margin to be X?"
Or do they say, "We want our price to be X?"
If the latter, and their X is below your cost to manufacture, you're screwed.
If previously, you've been increasing your company based on the increased profiting you suggest, then you've become increasingly dependant on moving that number of units. You probably have large debts in capital expenditures required to produce that level of output. You *need* to be making some certain amount of dollars to pay for those loans. You don't have the option of simply scaling back production and selling to the smaller markets again for the higher price, you're simply screwed.
Except that those manufacturing costs are actually covered in part by the artists' royalties. Most bands are given money *and studio time* as an advance against their future royalties. This winds up bumping the label profit at the expens of the royalties.
Except that when a Walmart has siphoned out all the mom & pop businesses, all that's left in the area are Walmart employees. Walmart can't sustain itself at the wages it pays its own employees, so it closes up and leaves the town an empty husk.
If you vote based on the system you're merely promoting the system.
If what you want is a government based on your beliefs, vote based on your beliefs.
Yeah, Nader probably won't win. If he's what you believe in, vote for him anyway. The only way the big parties will become more like what you believe is if they see there's support to be gained by going that way.
I think the problem is more that American politicians believe that is the case.
I think if Americans had a President who, on the occasion he screwed up, actually called a press conferences and said, "Ladies and Gentlemen. We screwed up. We thought it was going to be good but turned out to be wrong. We apologize for it, we've learned from it, and we're taking steps not only to fix what we've done, but to make sure it doesn't happen again," you'd wind up with one of the most popular Presidents in history.
Americans love the hooker with the heart of gold story. The sinner who's turned to the light, the unlucky who made good etc. They eat that shit up. Give them one of those as the President? They'd make it a kingship for him.
Just a blank box with a couple of blank buttons. I clicked one and the software installed. Did I mention I had some flaky memory I had to replace a while ago?
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I would, but then I'd be arrested as well.
While this would make sense if they included no multi-play at all.. they do.
You can still play co-op in offline mode, just not in online mode.
Write Sys-Con's advertisers, express how disappointed you are that they've chosen to associate their name with a disreputable company, and that you'll be taking that into account in future purchasing decisions.
Unfortunately, honesty is not a verifiable attribute. There's no way for sure to know that the programmer or engineer really is honest. If the code isn't auditable, we have to take their word for it.
Even if the code is auditable, if it's not auditable on the specific voting machine you're using you can't trust it.
Another difference between the problems listed with the low-tech solution and the high-tech is a difference in scale. It takes more effort to do any of the problems with paper ballots on a wide scale than it does to have a system that simply changes the recorded totals.
Except you forget one thing.. plurality is *still* getting in the wrong people, but with no real indication of how popular the third parties actually are.
This allows the government to deny third parties funding, participation in the debates, etc., etc. Approval will at least make it more difficult for the government to reasonably deny parties funding or participation in the process.
Unfortunately, the world needs to bend to the reality. The reality is most people are of the mindset "Math is hard, let's go shopping" and want nothing to do with even having to think so far as having to rank their choices, never mind be willing to trust some sort of mathematical formulae to figure out the winner that they couldn't do themselves.
While approval voting is not as good as Condorcet, it's still miles better than IRV, where voting for a party can actually *decrease* the chances of that same party winning.
No, if you actually *read* a site like Truth About Iraq and you don't see anything about a bright future actually existing. What you see is the opinions of people who are hard-working, full of life, and somewhat optimistic.
That's not news though, as anybody who's done any investigation into their culture will tell you.
What you find if you read the "truthaboutiraq" are only seven "myths", most of which are straw-men since they're generally not brought up by the liberal side, and of the two that aren't, they're not countered by any type of facts, but rather by opinion polls.
Guess what, opinion polls showed not too long ago that a majority of Americans felt Iraq was directly responsible for the 9/11 attacks.
Opinion != Truth.
You'll also see a site that doesn't attempt counter the largest accusations against Bush & Co: That the war was undertaken in the wrong way for America,
that Bush lied in convincing the American people to let it get done,
that it does nothing to actually reduce terrorism
that it's being used as a pretext to benefit certain oil industry insiders to the White House
To whom? There is no one definition of WMD.
And Clinton did not have sex with that woman.
Be serious. There is a well understood definition of WMD, and only pedants and people trying to avoid the truth bother arguing it.
Except none of the other people are the person who has the ability to say "No. We won't do that."
As such, you do what you can to please that guy, so that you have a better chance of getting what you want through later.
Ooo.. lookie.. the cumulative number of people listening to radio increases over the years.
Ooo.. lookie.. the cumulative number of people born increases over the years.
Congratulations, you've just managed to find a (very poor) measure of population growth.
Every stat except the cumulative shows a downward trend. This includes the TSL (which I assume stands for Total Seconds Listened). More people, listening less. That certainly says something about the quality of radio, doesn't it?
Corner cases or not, opponents of the system will point them out, and likely get headlines doing so. This will convince many of the public to associate any alternate type of voting with "bad system"
Go with approval voting instead. It's both better than plurality and simpler than IRV.
Actually.. that one is scary.
Is the US planning on invading other first world countries now?
Good lord.. ..I remember watching that show in grade school.
Our computer teacher insisted that every friday we'd watch this program. Talk about dry, uninteresting crap, most of which we already knew. Common feeling in class was we were watching it cause the teacher was desparately out of his depth and hoping to keep up with us.
Never really knew the people who were in it though.
Two problems:
1. Your buckets would crack after having a bowling ball repeatedly dumped into them high in the air.
2. You can't dump a bag of holding. It requires a person reaching in and and act of will for anything to be retrieved.
..when you think about all the other, better games they could be playing.
Does Walmart say "We want your profit margin to be X?"
Or do they say, "We want our price to be X?"
If the latter, and their X is below your cost to manufacture, you're screwed.
If previously, you've been increasing your company based on the increased profiting you suggest, then you've become increasingly dependant on moving that number of units. You probably have large debts in capital expenditures required to produce that level of output. You *need* to be making some certain amount of dollars to pay for those loans. You don't have the option of simply scaling back production and selling to the smaller markets again for the higher price, you're simply screwed.
Welcome to the American dream.
Except that those manufacturing costs are actually covered in part by the artists' royalties. Most bands are given money *and studio time* as an advance against their future royalties. This winds up bumping the label profit at the expens of the royalties.
Except that when a Walmart has siphoned out all the mom & pop businesses, all that's left in the area are Walmart employees. Walmart can't sustain itself at the wages it pays its own employees, so it closes up and leaves the town an empty husk.
If you vote based on the system you're merely promoting the system.
If what you want is a government based on your beliefs, vote based on your beliefs.
Yeah, Nader probably won't win. If he's what you believe in, vote for him anyway. The only way the big parties will become more like what you believe is if they see there's support to be gained by going that way.
I tend to think you're wrong.
I think the problem is more that American politicians believe that is the case.
I think if Americans had a President who, on the occasion he screwed up, actually called a press conferences and said, "Ladies and Gentlemen. We screwed up. We thought it was going to be good but turned out to be wrong. We apologize for it, we've learned from it, and we're taking steps not only to fix what we've done, but to make sure it doesn't happen again," you'd wind up with one of the most popular Presidents in history.
Americans love the hooker with the heart of gold story. The sinner who's turned to the light, the unlucky who made good etc. They eat that shit up.
Give them one of those as the President? They'd make it a kingship for him.
And your point is?
After all, the Courts haven't shown much difficulties with this before.
Yes, but usually not with evidence and in a Court of Law
I thought social security applied to everyone whether they paid into it or not?
So what happens under your plan to those who haven't put much in?
Coming back from true orbit and coming back from sub-orbit is a world of difference in the terms of speed collected when you hit the atmosphere.
Speed + Atmosphere = Friction = Heat
So if you hit true orbit you're likely going to need heat shielding unless you plan to stay up there.
If you need heat shielding, that's a lot more weight to carry up. Which means more push. Which means more fuel. Which means more weight.
It's entirely possible that this design is *only* practical for sub-orbital space flights.
Does it hurt pulling suppositions out of your ass like that?
Never showed up on my screen, no sir.
Just a blank box with a couple of blank buttons. I clicked one and the software installed. Did I mention I had some flaky memory I had to replace a while ago?