There's a difference between a Cadillac and a Chevy, but many of the parts are still interchangeable and they both have the same motive of making money for the same people. Thanks for attempting to cover up motives with technicalities.
During the elections I pointed out many times how my Google Plus feed was filling up with pro-Obama post on a regular basis from people I didn't know who weren't associated with people I did know. Sometimes these would only have a +5 and one or two reshares if even that. On the other hand I saw two or three Romney post come through the entire election cycle, and then only if they had something akin to a +70 and a dozen reshares or so.
To put it in perspective I thought they were both bad choices for the country, I was a Ron Paul/Gary Johnson fan and I'm a Libertarian who doesn't like either of those Bozo's. There was little doubt Google was really, really, trying hard to get me Obamafied and was almost upset it wasn't working.
If you'll look you'll see I seconded what someone else said. Second if you want proof alternate watching MSNBC and FOX News in five hour segments for a week so you'll get every show on both networks covered. Cherry picking in mass proportions on both channels to back up their own opposite view points. If you don't like this experiment similar ones can be set up with any number of sources.
My fights against right wingers are harder than this Internet crap because the right wingers are in my own family. You think I haven't pointed out where it's wrong to apply ethics to others to right wingers? You need to do your own research on me before making accusations at me.
I don't give a shit what country you went to school in and I will spout my view of the world from my point of view.
Yes you should BTW. Always question everything and if you doubt what someone says do your own independent research. That is what a truly liberal education is about, not the indoctrination "liberal because we said so" education that's spouted in most U.S. schools.
I'm pro both types. Yes, I have a Christian background, but my belief in a higher is a little more generic than it used to be. I believe social Darwinism is a part of Darwinism period. If a part of a species wont work for it's own survival it's little different than losing out in the kill or be killed game. Those that chose not to thrive should not be propped up by those that do. Greed has it's own trappings just like the opposite end of the spectrum. Let it happen.
I'm not saying don't take care of those that need some help, far from it. I've helped people who need it and after a couple of things that stand out I've been helped. We should be free to chose to help those that need help, we should not be required to prop up a part of the species that won't look after its own survival.
There is not a vast swatch of the population that hates people with education, there is one that's more than annoyed at the massive number of indoctrinated people and that the colleges are churning out Marxist. I've watched my best friend go from somewhere between liberaltarian and libertarian to Marxist in the span of a year since going to college. My own cousin made a 180 after college towards Marxism that after my aunt and uncle talked some sense in to him he admitted was wrong and can tell all about why he was wrong and that yes, it was instilled in him. He's still educated, he still has a job that requires the degree that he has, he's just no longer left-wing.
You're not helping your own statement. Meth use is very common in California, New Mexico, and Washington. People in trailer parks are more likely to be poor Democrats, but granted it's the right wing trailer park nut jobs that attract more attention per-capita. You have one or two of those nut jobs per trailer park and the other 30 or 40 trailers full fear them.
So much this. This is a major contributing factor to the left/right war we have going on that is dividing and conquering the people.
"Both" sides use their cherry-picked facts to justify government action to back them not realizing every government action is actually a loss for both sides.
The whole "In America there are no left wing parties", "The Republican and Democrat parties are both on the right" etc... Statements are nothing more than battle cries meant to further polarize left-wingers further from the right and polarize the people further.
Cut it out.
If you really want to achieve peace you'll stop trying to encourage people to hate one another and polarize themselves further and try to bring the power back down to the people and encourage cooperation with one another AND freedom from one another at the same time. Statements like that only fuel the hate by guilt tripping Democrats for not being polarized enough.
I have never claimed that being educated makes one liberal - especially by the modern definition of liberal.
I also don't think college==education.
I've met many people with degrees that don't know their ass from a hole in the ground.
I've met drop-outs, especially from older generations before certain cultural shifts, who were among the most intelligent well educated people I've ever met.
No - I like the old definition of liberal.
I stand by my claim that most modern colleges are on the whole left-wing indoctrination institutes. Left Wing =/= Liberal
You of course are using your own fallacy in replying to what you see as mine. Shove it - if you want numbers go get them yourself. I do not wish to further bias the argument with people arguing over the limited pool of data that I am collecting my information from. If you really want to know the numbers here you go, four out of five, the one that wasn't indoctrinated in this manner went to a Lutheran school, I admit I have a limited pool to chose from. Three of the five people I'm talking about are in Texas, one in Louisiana, one was in New Jersey. Yes, limited pool, but based on other observations these numbers appear to be more or less consistent across the nation.
Disclaimer
I use my numbers as a generalization and not an actual scientific poll. Those that believe scientific polls are factual have their heads as far up their asses as this A/C I'm replying to.
Universtity of Phoenix online - it's a required class, my fiance left the school over it. We were both raised in a community that was 90ish% Mexican and were both treated poorly for not being one. We did not have the empowerment this class and others who have had it demand we accept that we had. The University of Delaware is famous for making it a requirement to participate in such training. They eventually backed out when it made huge amounts of news, but such things are creeping into colleges in the required curriculum since then and getting less attention.
No, avoiding it is harder these days than seeking it out.
One of the biggest problems our nation has at this time is the left/right war. Yes, I called out the left in my post, but education is a place where the left has a stranglehold and is fueling the fire against the right.
The people on the left and the people on the right are really less different than we're lead to believe. This division is important to maintain to a certain group of people. There are people who pull the strings of the people at both the top of the Republican and Democrat parties and these are the same people pulling the strings of both parties. By keeping the left/right battle alive they ensure that both Republicans and Democrats win elections and that no true challenge to their power arises. Why do so many large corporations, banks, and people like Ben Bernanke contribute to both parties? Exactly.
Nobody wants the earth to turn to shit, but some see progress differently than others and have different ways of dealing with it. As for climate change - it's a tough battle, the climate has always changed, the fact the term "global warming" is no longer acceptable sort of gives some ammo to those who think it's horse shit. I personally think it's some blend of man-made issues and natural occurrences, how much is which I don't know. What I do know is even if the people blaming it 100% on man are wrong no one is going to complain about the environment being clean. I go green as much as I can but I don't buy into all the hype.
Neither side wants people murdered - but they have different interpretations of what that is. There's one group, and I'm not even going to separate them as left and right because the lines are fuzzy and there's people on both sides who agree with either definition even if it's counter to the majority of the side, that believes a wanted fetus is a baby in development but an unwanted one is nothing but a tumor fit to be extracted. The other considers it murder. In turn one side believes executing a violent person, one who has killed or done something horrible isn't murder and is a form of cleaning up the species, the other disagrees, still not left/right even if there is a generalization that is mostly right.
News flash: Most conservatives don't really care what you do in your bedroom. Yes, there is a strong religious contingent on the right, but they are no longer the big majority. Right now the Republican party is having a major pro-freedom push that benefits the GLBT folks. The establishment that you hate it fighting it hard. Romney legitimately lost the Republican primary to Ron Paul who by all accounts maintains a libertarian philosophy that the GLBT folks should find acceptable. There is a major freedom push within the party to marginalize the religious nuts, give it time, it will happen as the establishment top end is replaced.
Economics - hint - right now the big parties that most people assign left and right to have the same economic plan. They're just playing for different companies. It involves bleeding the public dry to benefit the companies/views of what should be instead of letting the economy heal.
Another surprise - true conservatives aren't against progress, the definition of conservative is closer to "don't bet the farm on a maybe". True progressives aren't against being a little conservative, after all, part of the reason modern progressives push socialism so hard is to have a safety net to catch them when they do bet the farm on a maybe.
END THE FUCKING WAR
Drop your reality has a liberal bias bullshit, just as you ask the religious right to get their religion out of politics. The only way the world will progress for the better is if we end our in-fighting and take control of our own destinies. You've heard the phrase "divide and conquer"? Do you honestly think those you live among hate you as much as the right-wing propaganda implies? Do you honestly hate right wingers who just want to hold on to their values and th
Sadly this is more common that let on. They did the right thing in this case, giving her the boot, but it's not the case across the board.
I'm not a Republican and I think this is wrong. Republicans and Democrats have the same major flaws rather they like to admit to it or not.
Limiting exposure to different types of thought is now mandatory in many colleges.
No, the term "Liberal Education" originally applied to the old definition of "Liberal" which encouraged independent thought, positive action, and a base of factual knowledge. The modern version follows the modern definition of liberal which is some blend of Marxist - punishing those who excel to benefit those who do not. The opposite of Darwinism, yet teaching Darwinism is very high on their agenda. I've yet to figure out why those who most adamantly demand the teaching of Darwinism are those most against it's implementation. The scientific method may be taught in the science classes, but outside of that enlightenment type classes have little to do with enlightenment and more often than not teach hate under the guise of the opposite.
Most people I've talked to who have been in college recently have had to take a "white people are automatically racist no matter what and minorities can't be because they don't have the power" course. Not to mention the well known cases of partisan ranting in classrooms by professors and even professors handing out pledges and requirements to vote Democrat.
If you want I'll give you links, but don't take my word for it, do some research on your own instead of relying on what someone hands you. I know that's counter to the modern educational indoctrination, but give it a try - true liberalism is about freedom of thought and freedom from oppression, not what modern people who call themselves liberal shovel at you.
I've tried other headsets in the past - they all fail on wind noise.
I use Cy-Fi Bluetooth speakers when I bike. Unfortunately they've quit making them, they're hard to find, and even though there's tons of Bluetooth speakers out there now unlike when these were made, none of them are bike mountable now. Sure you can do your own hacks, but built in water resistance isn't a given on the rest of them and making your own tends to limit the sound. These support calls - good enough to say "I'm on my bike, may want to call later." At which time they'll try to talk to you anyways then complain they can't hear you for crap. At which time you remind them what you said the first time. They actually sound great on the road.
I have some Plantronics stereo headphones that completely sucked balls on my Evo 4G WiMax version, despite the above Cy-Fi speakers totally rocking with them and about three different models of Jawbone doing really well with it also. They are awesome with my Evo 4G LTE. Why they sucked so bad for the last phone and not this one I don't know, could be Bluetooth version I don't know. What I do know is it's the first headset I've ever had that could work with voice commands and other calling apps, but it didn't because the microphone sucks so bad.
All I really want it for is Waze and to reply "driving" anyways. I have no real interest in texting while driving. I'm mostly bitching that I can't use my Bluetooth while not driving and it instantly came to mind. Seriously - what good is a video chat if you can't hear each other?
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There's a difference between a Cadillac and a Chevy, but many of the parts are still interchangeable and they both have the same motive of making money for the same people. Thanks for attempting to cover up motives with technicalities.
During the elections I pointed out many times how my Google Plus feed was filling up with pro-Obama post on a regular basis from people I didn't know who weren't associated with people I did know. Sometimes these would only have a +5 and one or two reshares if even that. On the other hand I saw two or three Romney post come through the entire election cycle, and then only if they had something akin to a +70 and a dozen reshares or so.
To put it in perspective I thought they were both bad choices for the country, I was a Ron Paul/Gary Johnson fan and I'm a Libertarian who doesn't like either of those Bozo's. There was little doubt Google was really, really, trying hard to get me Obamafied and was almost upset it wasn't working.
Your rose colored glasses are only good for reading the charts on the old G.I. Joe action figure packages, you should take them off now.
Please do - and make it one where nobody else who didn't want to be involved was involved in some form or another. This includes by using tax funds.
besides his boss and himself.
If you'll look you'll see I seconded what someone else said. Second if you want proof alternate watching MSNBC and FOX News in five hour segments for a week so you'll get every show on both networks covered. Cherry picking in mass proportions on both channels to back up their own opposite view points. If you don't like this experiment similar ones can be set up with any number of sources.
Fuck you.
My fights against right wingers are harder than this Internet crap because the right wingers are in my own family. You think I haven't pointed out where it's wrong to apply ethics to others to right wingers? You need to do your own research on me before making accusations at me.
I don't give a shit what country you went to school in and I will spout my view of the world from my point of view.
Yes you should BTW. Always question everything and if you doubt what someone says do your own independent research. That is what a truly liberal education is about, not the indoctrination "liberal because we said so" education that's spouted in most U.S. schools.
I return the challenge - prove to me the government have ever done anything that wasn't at the expense of another.
It can't do anything but at the expense of another - that's why we should have it sparingly.
I'm pro both types. Yes, I have a Christian background, but my belief in a higher is a little more generic than it used to be. I believe social Darwinism is a part of Darwinism period. If a part of a species wont work for it's own survival it's little different than losing out in the kill or be killed game. Those that chose not to thrive should not be propped up by those that do. Greed has it's own trappings just like the opposite end of the spectrum. Let it happen.
I'm not saying don't take care of those that need some help, far from it. I've helped people who need it and after a couple of things that stand out I've been helped. We should be free to chose to help those that need help, we should not be required to prop up a part of the species that won't look after its own survival.
There is not a vast swatch of the population that hates people with education, there is one that's more than annoyed at the massive number of indoctrinated people and that the colleges are churning out Marxist. I've watched my best friend go from somewhere between liberaltarian and libertarian to Marxist in the span of a year since going to college. My own cousin made a 180 after college towards Marxism that after my aunt and uncle talked some sense in to him he admitted was wrong and can tell all about why he was wrong and that yes, it was instilled in him. He's still educated, he still has a job that requires the degree that he has, he's just no longer left-wing.
You're not helping your own statement. Meth use is very common in California, New Mexico, and Washington. People in trailer parks are more likely to be poor Democrats, but granted it's the right wing trailer park nut jobs that attract more attention per-capita. You have one or two of those nut jobs per trailer park and the other 30 or 40 trailers full fear them.
everyone cherry picks for their own benefit
So much this. This is a major contributing factor to the left/right war we have going on that is dividing and conquering the people.
"Both" sides use their cherry-picked facts to justify government action to back them not realizing every government action is actually a loss for both sides.
Facts do have a liberal bias.
Not the modern definition of liberal, but the classical free thought version. The modern common use definition of liberal is all about indoctrination.
Please stop adding fuel to the fire.
The whole "In America there are no left wing parties", "The Republican and Democrat parties are both on the right" etc... Statements are nothing more than battle cries meant to further polarize left-wingers further from the right and polarize the people further.
Cut it out.
If you really want to achieve peace you'll stop trying to encourage people to hate one another and polarize themselves further and try to bring the power back down to the people and encourage cooperation with one another AND freedom from one another at the same time. Statements like that only fuel the hate by guilt tripping Democrats for not being polarized enough.
I have never claimed that being educated makes one liberal - especially by the modern definition of liberal.
I also don't think college==education.
I've met many people with degrees that don't know their ass from a hole in the ground.
I've met drop-outs, especially from older generations before certain cultural shifts, who were among the most intelligent well educated people I've ever met.
No - I like the old definition of liberal.
I stand by my claim that most modern colleges are on the whole left-wing indoctrination institutes. Left Wing =/= Liberal
You of course are using your own fallacy in replying to what you see as mine. Shove it - if you want numbers go get them yourself. I do not wish to further bias the argument with people arguing over the limited pool of data that I am collecting my information from. If you really want to know the numbers here you go, four out of five, the one that wasn't indoctrinated in this manner went to a Lutheran school, I admit I have a limited pool to chose from. Three of the five people I'm talking about are in Texas, one in Louisiana, one was in New Jersey. Yes, limited pool, but based on other observations these numbers appear to be more or less consistent across the nation.
Disclaimer
I use my numbers as a generalization and not an actual scientific poll. Those that believe scientific polls are factual have their heads as far up their asses as this A/C I'm replying to.
Universtity of Phoenix online - it's a required class, my fiance left the school over it. We were both raised in a community that was 90ish% Mexican and were both treated poorly for not being one. We did not have the empowerment this class and others who have had it demand we accept that we had. The University of Delaware is famous for making it a requirement to participate in such training. They eventually backed out when it made huge amounts of news, but such things are creeping into colleges in the required curriculum since then and getting less attention.
No, avoiding it is harder these days than seeking it out.
reality has a left wing bias to it
Please stop.
One of the biggest problems our nation has at this time is the left/right war. Yes, I called out the left in my post, but education is a place where the left has a stranglehold and is fueling the fire against the right.
The people on the left and the people on the right are really less different than we're lead to believe. This division is important to maintain to a certain group of people. There are people who pull the strings of the people at both the top of the Republican and Democrat parties and these are the same people pulling the strings of both parties. By keeping the left/right battle alive they ensure that both Republicans and Democrats win elections and that no true challenge to their power arises. Why do so many large corporations, banks, and people like Ben Bernanke contribute to both parties? Exactly.
Nobody wants the earth to turn to shit, but some see progress differently than others and have different ways of dealing with it. As for climate change - it's a tough battle, the climate has always changed, the fact the term "global warming" is no longer acceptable sort of gives some ammo to those who think it's horse shit. I personally think it's some blend of man-made issues and natural occurrences, how much is which I don't know. What I do know is even if the people blaming it 100% on man are wrong no one is going to complain about the environment being clean. I go green as much as I can but I don't buy into all the hype.
Neither side wants people murdered - but they have different interpretations of what that is. There's one group, and I'm not even going to separate them as left and right because the lines are fuzzy and there's people on both sides who agree with either definition even if it's counter to the majority of the side, that believes a wanted fetus is a baby in development but an unwanted one is nothing but a tumor fit to be extracted. The other considers it murder. In turn one side believes executing a violent person, one who has killed or done something horrible isn't murder and is a form of cleaning up the species, the other disagrees, still not left/right even if there is a generalization that is mostly right.
News flash: Most conservatives don't really care what you do in your bedroom. Yes, there is a strong religious contingent on the right, but they are no longer the big majority. Right now the Republican party is having a major pro-freedom push that benefits the GLBT folks. The establishment that you hate it fighting it hard. Romney legitimately lost the Republican primary to Ron Paul who by all accounts maintains a libertarian philosophy that the GLBT folks should find acceptable. There is a major freedom push within the party to marginalize the religious nuts, give it time, it will happen as the establishment top end is replaced.
Economics - hint - right now the big parties that most people assign left and right to have the same economic plan. They're just playing for different companies. It involves bleeding the public dry to benefit the companies/views of what should be instead of letting the economy heal.
Another surprise - true conservatives aren't against progress, the definition of conservative is closer to "don't bet the farm on a maybe". True progressives aren't against being a little conservative, after all, part of the reason modern progressives push socialism so hard is to have a safety net to catch them when they do bet the farm on a maybe.
END THE FUCKING WAR
Drop your reality has a liberal bias bullshit, just as you ask the religious right to get their religion out of politics. The only way the world will progress for the better is if we end our in-fighting and take control of our own destinies. You've heard the phrase "divide and conquer"? Do you honestly think those you live among hate you as much as the right-wing propaganda implies? Do you honestly hate right wingers who just want to hold on to their values and th
Sadly this is more common that let on. They did the right thing in this case, giving her the boot, but it's not the case across the board.
I'm not a Republican and I think this is wrong. Republicans and Democrats have the same major flaws rather they like to admit to it or not.
Limiting exposure to different types of thought is now mandatory in many colleges.
No, the term "Liberal Education" originally applied to the old definition of "Liberal" which encouraged independent thought, positive action, and a base of factual knowledge. The modern version follows the modern definition of liberal which is some blend of Marxist - punishing those who excel to benefit those who do not. The opposite of Darwinism, yet teaching Darwinism is very high on their agenda. I've yet to figure out why those who most adamantly demand the teaching of Darwinism are those most against it's implementation. The scientific method may be taught in the science classes, but outside of that enlightenment type classes have little to do with enlightenment and more often than not teach hate under the guise of the opposite.
Most people I've talked to who have been in college recently have had to take a "white people are automatically racist no matter what and minorities can't be because they don't have the power" course. Not to mention the well known cases of partisan ranting in classrooms by professors and even professors handing out pledges and requirements to vote Democrat.
If you want I'll give you links, but don't take my word for it, do some research on your own instead of relying on what someone hands you. I know that's counter to the modern educational indoctrination, but give it a try - true liberalism is about freedom of thought and freedom from oppression, not what modern people who call themselves liberal shovel at you.
Claim freedom is lack of. Claim right is wrong, claim truth is lies. Not news.
Maybe with a little academic freedom we can find higher education that isn't a left wing indoctrination institute.
was to circumvent crap like this. 2nd amendment protection, even when it's being attacked aggressively.
I've tried other headsets in the past - they all fail on wind noise.
I use Cy-Fi Bluetooth speakers when I bike. Unfortunately they've quit making them, they're hard to find, and even though there's tons of Bluetooth speakers out there now unlike when these were made, none of them are bike mountable now. Sure you can do your own hacks, but built in water resistance isn't a given on the rest of them and making your own tends to limit the sound. These support calls - good enough to say "I'm on my bike, may want to call later." At which time they'll try to talk to you anyways then complain they can't hear you for crap. At which time you remind them what you said the first time. They actually sound great on the road.
I have some Plantronics stereo headphones that completely sucked balls on my Evo 4G WiMax version, despite the above Cy-Fi speakers totally rocking with them and about three different models of Jawbone doing really well with it also. They are awesome with my Evo 4G LTE. Why they sucked so bad for the last phone and not this one I don't know, could be Bluetooth version I don't know. What I do know is it's the first headset I've ever had that could work with voice commands and other calling apps, but it didn't because the microphone sucks so bad.
Not if we stop voting Republicrat.
All I really want it for is Waze and to reply "driving" anyways. I have no real interest in texting while driving. I'm mostly bitching that I can't use my Bluetooth while not driving and it instantly came to mind. Seriously - what good is a video chat if you can't hear each other?