At least you care enough to post as an AC. I wonder how long those packages can be held while all the other inter-dependencies around them stay in check? I also wonder what part of "stable" was misunderstood.
I've wondered about that. I know think the FireWire chip was Texas Instruments which has a horrible record of Linux compatibility - to the point of threatening to sue people who tried to make some of their wifi stuff work anyway.
The sound on the other hand was early Centrino I think. Ill do an lspci and post the results when I get home.
I don't intend to down Debian, it's a great setup, it really is, if it wasn't there wouldn't be a reason to make so many derivatives. The Debian core is awesome when they don't have a rush going. I really like the rolling release cycle better, Debian's destroyed in waves thing got old and the rolling release of the derived versions seems to have fixed it.
Lenny is what they kept breaking on me, I haven't even tried squeeze. I started on Debian during early Etch, and I rather liked it. I honestly think Debian chose to shun the chips in my particular system, but it was a short time after Hurricane Ike so I didn't have a lot of systems to play with anymore and was in no position to buy anything considering my hurricane recovery. The system with the mission stickers was an etch box and it was also my brand new Athlon 64 X2 I had just built a couple of months earlier, crappy looking case, but sweet insides for the time.
No, Debian just didn't like my even at the time out of date Tecra laptop, but Kubuntu liked it just fine and still does.
I'm sorry, that's the way it was. I have three current problems with Kubuntu, and I stress the Kubuntu over Ubuntu because I don't know of the Gnome specific issues.
1. Truncated files when copying using the KDE file management system (Krusader, Dolphin, and Konqueror all do). I'm fine if I use Midnight Commander, this is a big important issue I don't understand but it works sometimes.
2. Krename quit working unexpectedly and stayed broke. I'm not really concerned about this one.
3. I can't seem to get ZSNES working. I tried compiling from source but I'm not a programmer and it has some library issues. I've not been concerned enough to put a lot of effort into it.
VS. Debian where I could no longer use my external drives, listen to music, watch movies (due to sound) and I either had constant fix it work on testing or permanently broke stuff with no chance of a fix happening on stable Kubuntu seemed like the better choice. I really wanted to stick with Debian, I really did. I could probably run it just fine on my desktop now, but I really don't want to redo my desktop. I suppose I'll have to if Kubuntu turns to shit over the defunding.
BTW - I've been using KDE since 1.x, I can't remember if I started before giving up Redhat (my first distro in 98) or when I started on SuSE 7.0, I like KDE and I'm sticking with it, and yes, sometimes I think 1.x was the apex and they shouldn't have gone to 2.x, much less 3 or 4.
I haven't played games like I used to so I haven't really paid attention to the nVidia driver, it's done what I needed. I honestly don't know if I've been running the same driver for a year plus or if updates are slipped in without me noticing, but it was seamless until a couple of weeks ago.
BTW, I left classic SuSE (I was on it from 7.0 to about 10.04) and finally bailed. SuSE had a habit of releasing packages that had dependencies that weren't met in their repositories OR any of the third party ones at the time. Running SuSE back then was a nightmare and my RPM database went corrupt every six months or so.
I had an nVidia problem with Kubuntu last week (or was it the week before?) My first serious problem in a couple of years.
Fortunately all my years of troubleshooting the issue on Debian and trying to make the directly from the website driver work when I first started on Kubuntu (and exercise in futility BTW) made it so I had it up and running again in no time anyways. It was an out-of order preparation for the new kernel.
I have a feeling the Unity backlash is going to do something to save Kubuntu, or at the least the Debian packages will work.
I used to use testing before I got pissed off and went stable - which they broke also. The "going stable cram" made using Debian testing a waste. Even if you did manage to keep ahead of the crap they were breaking left and right in testing the rush before stable when everyone rushes in their half-assed packages will break your setup for sure, and it even bleeds into stable on occasion.
Really unless something has changed if I went back to Debian I would be very hesitant to do my security updates.
Does this count? I'm also the GGGP on that. Sound chip doesn't work? It worked before they broke it and it's working now, I still have the thing, next to me, running.
My Toshiba Tecra A5 was at issue here. Originally they broke the firewire, after a long struggle I looked into a bug report, I found a note saying they were aware of the issue and were going to leave it that way. They said it only worked due to a "nasty hack" to begin with, the nasty hack was removed and it wasn't coming back.
Later on they broke my sound.
Mind you when I first installed STABLE it all worked. These were security updates that broke it.
I was worried Kubuntu wasn't going to be any better since it was Debian based, but no, they both worked. Seems like there was a third item involved, but I really can't recall at the moment. There were things about Debian I missed initially, Kubuntu felt like Linux on training wheels at first, but either it got better or I got used to it.
Nothing special? I would like to agree, but in the modern day that isn't the case.
Hand every six year old in your typical local school a shotgun and have them carry it around for a few hours and see what happens. Are you anti-education? The reason I was trusted was because I was already educated. There's reasons you don't hand guns to every six year old out there, promoting ignorance may advance your agenda and increase the danger in an object that shouldn't be all that dangerous but it's a very cynical and unethical way to do it.
I have a small first aid kit in my tool bag and a smallish one in my vehicle.
I have been certified in: Child, Infant and Adult CPR Community First Aid and Safety Life Guarding
(all Red Cross, all certs are expired, but I can still have the skills)
Granted if I'm out of range of my vehicle or my tool bag I may have to make due with the one that's in the business I'm rendering aid at, but you get the point.
9th and 10th seem to apply. The lack of something being in the Constitution prevents the feds from regulating it in theory, but as so many have said we really don't have a Constitution anymore.
Please, place a huge sign on your front door that says "No guns here, and they're not welcome."
Guns are by no means the most dangerous thing I'm around on a regular basis. I would qualify that 2005 Saturn out in the parking lot as a much bigger danger to me than my rifles and pistols, I'm much more likely to die from it. I also work around high voltages on a regular basis, and I'm not talking 115 AC.
My guns and knives may not the be the safest things I own, but they're far from the most dangerous thing I'm around regularly. When it comes to my other tools I'm more afraid of my circular saw than I am my guns.
Have you been paying attention to what's going on with the TSA? They're expanding like a cancer and the constitution doesn't seem to matter. The Second American Revolution will be started in response to the TSA and the fact they allowed to operate without restraint. They're moving onto public streets in some places.
Random scans are coming if they don't get shut down.
I have four knives on me right now. This is what I carry with me on a daily basis give or take. Three of them are Leatherman brand, but none are the traditional multi-pliar, I find having the tools spread across multiple devices better as a tech for various reasons.
I first fired a shotgun at the age of five. At six my dad handed one to carry with me when we were out quail hunting.
New York, like Chicago, Great Britian, and many other places too much fear in the tool and not enough effort into education, trust and tollerance.
The reason I could carry a shotgun at the age of six is my dad took me out at the age of four, shot some rabbits and explained death and danger to me. He taught me to respect the tools that guns are. When I was seven he gave me a pocket knife and expected me to carry it as it is one of the most ancient, practical and useful tools known. I got in trouble if I didn't have it on me when he asked. I often didn't have it on me because the school system had the same mentality as NYPD and I knew better than to got with my dads logic, which I considered supperior.
In an urban setting, guns are like fire extinquishers. They're something you hope you never need, but you should have one around anyways. In a rural setting they're a meal ticket, something to protect your livestock with, and occasionally a form of entertainment - when used responsibly.
When everyones armed the random individual who wishes to victimize others has less power to do so. Things like this scanner empowers criminals as it prevents otherwise law abiding citizens from carrying their tools of protection.
That may be the problem. I left Tiger on there on purpose since it runs Mac classic stuff and my daughter used the computer quite a bit to play Mac classic games. It did leave a nice little circular upgrade though, my mom got my Intel Mini, my daughter got her dual G5 (yeah, still in my place but I consider myself Apple free) and someone else all together got her old G4 Power Mac. Since my daughter visits my parents less often now it's not a bad arrangement, everyone won and I personally am out of the garden now even if I do maintain it for others.
What I was really referring to was Apple fighting tooth and nail to keep older iPhones from recording video (even though it's proven the original can), refusal to allow older models to have extra Bluetooth functionality newer ones have, that once again the hackers proved they could do. In addition to Macs being handed out my daughter has my old iPhone serving it's new purpose as an iPod touch.
Apple sees the value in more or less maintaining the previous version.
They see the value in throwing the one before that a couple of bones.
They don't see much value in going back before that.
They see the value in suing people who try to bring current functionality to older products.
See what they're doing for a dual G5 Power Mac or the original iPhone? I'm Apple free now, I had to give my mom my newer Mac-Mini to replace her dual G5 since the version of iTunes available on the dual G5 couldn't load the latest IOS on her 3GS. I was glad to be rid of it.
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At least you care enough to post as an AC. I wonder how long those packages can be held while all the other inter-dependencies around them stay in check? I also wonder what part of "stable" was misunderstood.
I've wondered about that. I know think the FireWire chip was Texas Instruments which has a horrible record of Linux compatibility - to the point of threatening to sue people who tried to make some of their wifi stuff work anyway.
The sound on the other hand was early Centrino I think. Ill do an lspci and post the results when I get home.
I don't intend to down Debian, it's a great setup, it really is, if it wasn't there wouldn't be a reason to make so many derivatives. The Debian core is awesome when they don't have a rush going. I really like the rolling release cycle better, Debian's destroyed in waves thing got old and the rolling release of the derived versions seems to have fixed it.
Lenny is what they kept breaking on me, I haven't even tried squeeze. I started on Debian during early Etch, and I rather liked it. I honestly think Debian chose to shun the chips in my particular system, but it was a short time after Hurricane Ike so I didn't have a lot of systems to play with anymore and was in no position to buy anything considering my hurricane recovery. The system with the mission stickers was an etch box and it was also my brand new Athlon 64 X2 I had just built a couple of months earlier, crappy looking case, but sweet insides for the time.
No, Debian just didn't like my even at the time out of date Tecra laptop, but Kubuntu liked it just fine and still does.
I'm sorry, that's the way it was. I have three current problems with Kubuntu, and I stress the Kubuntu over Ubuntu because I don't know of the Gnome specific issues.
1. Truncated files when copying using the KDE file management system (Krusader, Dolphin, and Konqueror all do). I'm fine if I use Midnight Commander, this is a big important issue I don't understand but it works sometimes.
2. Krename quit working unexpectedly and stayed broke. I'm not really concerned about this one.
3. I can't seem to get ZSNES working. I tried compiling from source but I'm not a programmer and it has some library issues. I've not been concerned enough to put a lot of effort into it.
VS. Debian where I could no longer use my external drives, listen to music, watch movies (due to sound) and I either had constant fix it work on testing or permanently broke stuff with no chance of a fix happening on stable Kubuntu seemed like the better choice. I really wanted to stick with Debian, I really did. I could probably run it just fine on my desktop now, but I really don't want to redo my desktop. I suppose I'll have to if Kubuntu turns to shit over the defunding.
BTW - I've been using KDE since 1.x, I can't remember if I started before giving up Redhat (my first distro in 98) or when I started on SuSE 7.0, I like KDE and I'm sticking with it, and yes, sometimes I think 1.x was the apex and they shouldn't have gone to 2.x, much less 3 or 4.
I haven't played games like I used to so I haven't really paid attention to the nVidia driver, it's done what I needed. I honestly don't know if I've been running the same driver for a year plus or if updates are slipped in without me noticing, but it was seamless until a couple of weeks ago.
BTW, I left classic SuSE (I was on it from 7.0 to about 10.04) and finally bailed. SuSE had a habit of releasing packages that had dependencies that weren't met in their repositories OR any of the third party ones at the time. Running SuSE back then was a nightmare and my RPM database went corrupt every six months or so.
I had an nVidia problem with Kubuntu last week (or was it the week before?) My first serious problem in a couple of years.
Fortunately all my years of troubleshooting the issue on Debian and trying to make the directly from the website driver work when I first started on Kubuntu (and exercise in futility BTW) made it so I had it up and running again in no time anyways. It was an out-of order preparation for the new kernel.
I have a feeling the Unity backlash is going to do something to save Kubuntu, or at the least the Debian packages will work.
I used to use testing before I got pissed off and went stable - which they broke also. The "going stable cram" made using Debian testing a waste. Even if you did manage to keep ahead of the crap they were breaking left and right in testing the rush before stable when everyone rushes in their half-assed packages will break your setup for sure, and it even bleeds into stable on occasion.
Really unless something has changed if I went back to Debian I would be very hesitant to do my security updates.
Does this count? I'm also the GGGP on that. Sound chip doesn't work? It worked before they broke it and it's working now, I still have the thing, next to me, running.
My Toshiba Tecra A5 was at issue here. Originally they broke the firewire, after a long struggle I looked into a bug report, I found a note saying they were aware of the issue and were going to leave it that way. They said it only worked due to a "nasty hack" to begin with, the nasty hack was removed and it wasn't coming back.
Later on they broke my sound.
Mind you when I first installed STABLE it all worked. These were security updates that broke it.
I was worried Kubuntu wasn't going to be any better since it was Debian based, but no, they both worked. Seems like there was a third item involved, but I really can't recall at the moment. There were things about Debian I missed initially, Kubuntu felt like Linux on training wheels at first, but either it got better or I got used to it.
The way Debian breaks stable with updates and leaves it broke? It's why I left Debian for Kubuntu to begin with.
How do we know this lake isn't connected to an underground river that could easily wash modern biology in and out?
Only to find Chuck Norris waiting for him at the bottom.
yet fights tooth and nail to keep people from using it legitimately for their movies where others allow it.
Nothing special? I would like to agree, but in the modern day that isn't the case.
Hand every six year old in your typical local school a shotgun and have them carry it around for a few hours and see what happens. Are you anti-education? The reason I was trusted was because I was already educated. There's reasons you don't hand guns to every six year old out there, promoting ignorance may advance your agenda and increase the danger in an object that shouldn't be all that dangerous but it's a very cynical and unethical way to do it.
Just for your information:
I have a small first aid kit in my tool bag and a smallish one in my vehicle.
I have been certified in:
Child, Infant and Adult CPR
Community First Aid and Safety
Life Guarding
(all Red Cross, all certs are expired, but I can still have the skills)
Granted if I'm out of range of my vehicle or my tool bag I may have to make due with the one that's in the business I'm rendering aid at, but you get the point.
9th and 10th seem to apply. The lack of something being in the Constitution prevents the feds from regulating it in theory, but as so many have said we really don't have a Constitution anymore.
They're expanding beyond trains and they're trying to get to highways.
Please, place a huge sign on your front door that says "No guns here, and they're not welcome."
Guns are by no means the most dangerous thing I'm around on a regular basis. I would qualify that 2005 Saturn out in the parking lot as a much bigger danger to me than my rifles and pistols, I'm much more likely to die from it. I also work around high voltages on a regular basis, and I'm not talking 115 AC.
My guns and knives may not the be the safest things I own, but they're far from the most dangerous thing I'm around regularly. When it comes to my other tools I'm more afraid of my circular saw than I am my guns.
When you get a concealed carry permit they teach you to inform cops you are carrying during a traffic stop. Professionalism is the apex.
Not counting the criminal who is carrying one and you're on his menu.
Have you been paying attention to what's going on with the TSA? They're expanding like a cancer and the constitution doesn't seem to matter. The Second American Revolution will be started in response to the TSA and the fact they allowed to operate without restraint. They're moving onto public streets in some places.
Random scans are coming if they don't get shut down.
I have four knives on me right now. This is what I carry with me on a daily basis give or take. Three of them are Leatherman brand, but none are the traditional multi-pliar, I find having the tools spread across multiple devices better as a tech for various reasons.
I first fired a shotgun at the age of five. At six my dad handed one to carry with me when we were out quail hunting.
New York, like Chicago, Great Britian, and many other places too much fear in the tool and not enough effort into education, trust and tollerance.
The reason I could carry a shotgun at the age of six is my dad took me out at the age of four, shot some rabbits and explained death and danger to me. He taught me to respect the tools that guns are. When I was seven he gave me a pocket knife and expected me to carry it as it is one of the most ancient, practical and useful tools known. I got in trouble if I didn't have it on me when he asked. I often didn't have it on me because the school system had the same mentality as NYPD and I knew better than to got with my dads logic, which I considered supperior.
In an urban setting, guns are like fire extinquishers. They're something you hope you never need, but you should have one around anyways. In a rural setting they're a meal ticket, something to protect your livestock with, and occasionally a form of entertainment - when used responsibly.
When everyones armed the random individual who wishes to victimize others has less power to do so. Things like this scanner empowers criminals as it prevents otherwise law abiding citizens from carrying their tools of protection.
That may be the problem. I left Tiger on there on purpose since it runs Mac classic stuff and my daughter used the computer quite a bit to play Mac classic games. It did leave a nice little circular upgrade though, my mom got my Intel Mini, my daughter got her dual G5 (yeah, still in my place but I consider myself Apple free) and someone else all together got her old G4 Power Mac. Since my daughter visits my parents less often now it's not a bad arrangement, everyone won and I personally am out of the garden now even if I do maintain it for others.
What I was really referring to was Apple fighting tooth and nail to keep older iPhones from recording video (even though it's proven the original can), refusal to allow older models to have extra Bluetooth functionality newer ones have, that once again the hackers proved they could do. In addition to Macs being handed out my daughter has my old iPhone serving it's new purpose as an iPod touch.
Apple sees the value in more or less maintaining the previous version.
They see the value in throwing the one before that a couple of bones.
They don't see much value in going back before that.
They see the value in suing people who try to bring current functionality to older products.
See what they're doing for a dual G5 Power Mac or the original iPhone? I'm Apple free now, I had to give my mom my newer Mac-Mini to replace her dual G5 since the version of iTunes available on the dual G5 couldn't load the latest IOS on her 3GS. I was glad to be rid of it.