Ok, I saw the unedited version when it was in theatres (yay Canada!), and I don't think you're missing anything because of the blurring or whatever they did to the scene. Other than the principle of the thing (which I agree with strongly), there's no real reason to get excited over the edit. (Although it sucks that that's the only version available on disc or vid now, even though we got the real deal onscreen.)
Oops. forgot to include other commentary... Laser Quest Academy???? I never saw IKWYDLS or any of the other annoying teen slashers from the last few years. Lost in Space was crap, with bad effects. Les Mis? Did I miss something? I remember when the stage show was here, but that's it... I don't know. Everything's been derivative forever. Shakespeare was a blatant thief. I think it's just that as we get older, we can see what the new stuff is knocking off. Which isn't a bad thing on its own; the problem is that everything is a _bad_ knockoff of something else. (which in many cases was also bad)
Last such soundtrack that springs to mind is Interview with the Vampire. Its a whole disc of opera, with a Guns and Roses cover of Sympathy for the Devil (which I liked. sue me.) I'm certain that there have been many more since then though. After all, pretty much every Hollywood movie has a soundtrack available for the last 10 years, so there's bound to be lots. Episode 1, Red Violin are a couple that seem likely from last year...
You mean there's a city in this country that isn't Southam (mediocre standards, editing, and integrity), or the Sun (tabloid sensationalism +80% adds)? I really thought the Globe & Mail was the only other choice. And since it's national, I stick with the Southam anyhow. Oh well, at least they just ignore stories that make Conrad Black look bad, rather than trying to spin it in his favour...
Now, I really can't say this which much certainty, but aren't there quite alot of people who call it the petroleum broadcasting system? I thought that a lot of donations for PBS came from private businesses, especially large industry?
Heh. I remember when movie soundtracks didn't hit the store a month or more before the movie. I also remember when product tie-ins were unusual, not a given (and they usually stuck with popular tv cartoons)
I don't know, I'd say the ages aren't that skewed (other than Collosus). Kitty was around 13 when she first showed up, and is now generally portrayed at 17 (give or take a year I'd say), and Jubilee was about the same age when she showed up, and has been around for I'd say 2/3 as long, so she's probably 15, leaving a fairly small difference. (keep in mind just how slow Marvel characters seem to age. real history events keep getting written back to earlier times in a character's life to adjust somewhat for this. The original team has aged ten years, _tops_) As for Bobby being younger, that's not a problem, he always was supposed to be younger than the other original members.
They've still got Bolivar Trask if they want Sentinels, and if they want a senatorial threat, they can introduce Graydon Creed. (Of course, that'd mean giving some Mystique & Sabretooth backstory)
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Yeah, but it makes for a better story if the protagonist's mutation(s) are useful...
Hell, Magneto's been the leader of the X-Men, for a while in the '80s and in many alternate history/alternate realities/elseworld's type things.
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Not her real mom, just the woman who raised her. Mystique was Nightcrawler's real mom. (And she dumped him into the ocean while running like hell from some angry villager types too)
The "three weeks" thing seemed kind of strange to me. In the books, he was in a coma. permanantly. (until a writer decided he should finally die a while ago, just to mess with Rogue some more)
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What'd the point of volentary accelerated healing be?
OK, so where were Jubilee and Colossus? (And I think that was Scorch, Pyro's too old...) Actually, Colossus doesn't make much sense either, all the other kids at the school were Americans, and Piotr's a Russian. Plus he's also the same age as the X-Men who were shown on the team.
The Hitler parallel is the reason that the whole Holocaust survivor angle was added to the character. It gave Xavier something nasty to point out to Eric during an arguement. You know, the old, "and how are you better than those that killed your family Eric?"
I doubt it. They could get away with killing off supporting characters (i.e. Henry Gyrich), but having Kelly become a member of the Brotherhood of (Evil) Mutants would be getting _really_ far from the source.
I second that. If Katz want's to complain about when things are written, he should've complained about the character choice. 2 out of 5 original members (plus one more in a cameo) didn't bother him more than this? Besides, from a continuity stand point, its not "written in after 20 years", its "unrevealed for 20 years", while still being a completely legitamate part of continuity. (and one that adds to the character quite nicely)
Exactly. And that's the key. X-Men has never been quite as vague as the other posters seem to think. Although most characters are at least sympathetic, they tend to do one thing that keeps you from accepting their methods as justifiable.
Not the human torch if that's who you meant. There was a new mutant named scorch (i think. maybe it was torch. he got killed a little while after I got into it, and i don't know much of the mid-late 80's stuff) Matched Pyro's power's quite well, but I don't think he's young enough (or was ever at Xavier's)
They could've gone with the early Beast (pre-fur that is). Since this is apparently supposed to be early in the school's existence, he wouldn't have experimented on himself yet. And his effects would've been similar to Toad's anyhow, plus Jean Grey wouldn't have mysteriously become an MD! (That, and Mystique actually able to fight Wolverine at all successfully were the only two things that really bugged me as far as changes went.)
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Ok, I saw the unedited version when it was in theatres (yay Canada!), and I don't think you're missing anything because of the blurring or whatever they did to the scene. Other than the principle of the thing (which I agree with strongly), there's no real reason to get excited over the edit. (Although it sucks that that's the only version available on disc or vid now, even though we got the real deal onscreen.)
other cult films like "The 10 Commandments"
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Heh. I like that. I know what you meant, but the idea of the basic tenents of Christianity being cult related ammuses me for some reason.
See? Yet more evidence that Magneto isn't really a bad guy!
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Laser Quest Academy????
I never saw IKWYDLS or any of the other annoying teen slashers from the last few years.
Lost in Space was crap, with bad effects. Les Mis? Did I miss something? I remember when the stage show was here, but that's it...
I don't know. Everything's been derivative forever. Shakespeare was a blatant thief. I think it's just that as we get older, we can see what the new stuff is knocking off. Which isn't a bad thing on its own; the problem is that everything is a _bad_ knockoff of something else. (which in many cases was also bad)
Last such soundtrack that springs to mind is Interview with the Vampire. Its a whole disc of opera, with a Guns and Roses cover of Sympathy for the Devil (which I liked. sue me.) I'm certain that there have been many more since then though. After all, pretty much every Hollywood movie has a soundtrack available for the last 10 years, so there's bound to be lots. Episode 1, Red Violin are a couple that seem likely from last year...
You mean there's a city in this country that isn't Southam (mediocre standards, editing, and integrity), or the Sun (tabloid sensationalism +80% adds)? I really thought the Globe & Mail was the only other choice. And since it's national, I stick with the Southam anyhow. Oh well, at least they just ignore stories that make Conrad Black look bad, rather than trying to spin it in his favour...
Now, I really can't say this which much certainty, but aren't there quite alot of people who call it the petroleum broadcasting system? I thought that a lot of donations for PBS came from private businesses, especially large industry?
Heh. I remember when movie soundtracks didn't hit the store a month or more before the movie. I also remember when product tie-ins were unusual, not a given (and they usually stuck with popular tv cartoons)
I don't know, I'd say the ages aren't that skewed (other than Collosus). Kitty was around 13 when she first showed up, and is now generally portrayed at 17 (give or take a year I'd say), and Jubilee was about the same age when she showed up, and has been around for I'd say 2/3 as long, so she's probably 15, leaving a fairly small difference. (keep in mind just how slow Marvel characters seem to age. real history events keep getting written back to earlier times in a character's life to adjust somewhat for this. The original team has aged ten years, _tops_) As for Bobby being younger, that's not a problem, he always was supposed to be younger than the other original members.
I think I'm going to have to go see it again, just so I can watch all the kids at the school more closely.
K. I didn't stick around to see the credits. I almost never do.
They've still got Bolivar Trask if they want Sentinels, and if they want a senatorial threat, they can introduce Graydon Creed. (Of course, that'd mean giving some Mystique & Sabretooth backstory)
Yeah, but it makes for a better story if the protagonist's mutation(s) are useful...
How about a live action TV Tick with Patrick Warburtun?
Hell, Magneto's been the leader of the X-Men, for a while in the '80s and in many alternate history/alternate realities/elseworld's type things.
Not her real mom, just the woman who raised her. Mystique was Nightcrawler's real mom. (And she dumped him into the ocean while running like hell from some angry villager types too)
The "three weeks" thing seemed kind of strange to me. In the books, he was in a coma. permanantly. (until a writer decided he should finally die a while ago, just to mess with Rogue some more)
What'd the point of volentary accelerated healing be?
OK, so where were Jubilee and Colossus? (And I think that was Scorch, Pyro's too old...) Actually, Colossus doesn't make much sense either, all the other kids at the school were Americans, and Piotr's a Russian. Plus he's also the same age as the X-Men who were shown on the team.
Is it a new one, or are they trying to ressurect the old one that came out when CCG's were all the rage?
The Hitler parallel is the reason that the whole Holocaust survivor angle was added to the character. It gave Xavier something nasty to point out to Eric during an arguement. You know, the old, "and how are you better than those that killed your family Eric?"
I doubt it. They could get away with killing off supporting characters (i.e. Henry Gyrich), but having Kelly become a member of the Brotherhood of (Evil) Mutants would be getting _really_ far from the source.
I second that. If Katz want's to complain about when things are written, he should've complained about the character choice. 2 out of 5 original members (plus one more in a cameo) didn't bother him more than this? Besides, from a continuity stand point, its not "written in after 20 years", its "unrevealed for 20 years", while still being a completely legitamate part of continuity. (and one that adds to the character quite nicely)
Exactly. And that's the key. X-Men has never been quite as vague as the other posters seem to think. Although most characters are at least sympathetic, they tend to do one thing that keeps you from accepting their methods as justifiable.
Not the human torch if that's who you meant. There was a new mutant named scorch (i think. maybe it was torch. he got killed a little while after I got into it, and i don't know much of the mid-late 80's stuff) Matched Pyro's power's quite well, but I don't think he's young enough (or was ever at Xavier's)
They could've gone with the early Beast (pre-fur that is). Since this is apparently supposed to be early in the school's existence, he wouldn't have experimented on himself yet. And his effects would've been similar to Toad's anyhow, plus Jean Grey wouldn't have mysteriously become an MD! (That, and Mystique actually able to fight Wolverine at all successfully were the only two things that really bugged me as far as changes went.)