more like the pattern is "random car bomb attacks" -> single "powerful hijacking scheme" -> "random car bomb attacks".
derive or extrapolate from that a "pattern" to fit your ideology. "Many high-ranking members are dead or in custody," and "Seems to be working pretty well" -- maybe asking them would have worked just as well. would have cost a lot less.
CITE 18 USC Sec. 1652 01/26/98 TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE PART I - CRIMES CHAPTER 81 - PIRACY AND PRIVATEERING Sec. 1652. Citizens as pirates
"Whoever, being a citizen of the United States, commits any murder or robbery, or any act of hostility against the United States, or against any citizen thereof, on the high seas, under color of any commission from any foreign prince, or state, or on pretense of authority from any person, is a pirate, and shall be imprisoned for life."
it's also not quite clear that making an exact duplicate copy, where it does not degrade the original, is "theft".
it's infringement of copyright. just like when people used to tape albums for their friends, just on a different scale.
One quibble with the article: the author still doesn't get it that GNU software and Linux are not just being developed as a hobby by longbeards with no friends. What about all the work IBM, RedHat, SuSE, and a ton of other companies have put in to the project? What about all of the really serious professional hackers who have spent years working on these things? This is no scaled-up equivalent of a model railroad setup in someone's attic.
(Sorry for sort of dissing model railroaders and longbeards, two groups for whom I have much respect.)
what's interesting here is that they're [g-boxx.org] trying to make it a standard.
the thing that is cool (and rare) about working on bicycles is that there are basic standards, just like with desktop computers. you can pull pedals off one bike, wheels off another, and a fork off another and they are likely to all work together. of course, this is not 100%, but the parts are a lot more stnadard than, say, on a car or motorcycle where each model has its own parts design and there is little interchangability. this makes tikering with bikes lots of fun.
without a standard, nobody's going to want to make or buy a bike with a specialized drive train for which parts will soon become unavailable. just like you wouldn't buy a computer with a proprietary disk interface (unless you had some special need).
I really didn't mean to use the same format question and just change the insignificant bits. It just so happens that the examples I chose are bad. I really mean you have to have a supply of question/answer pairs where the answer is obvious and not contained in the question.
That this is a problem only AI can solve has not been demonstrated. It's clear that it's a hard problem, though.
Maybe you could come up with a model for simple things that people understand and then use data available on the web to generate the questions.
Might want to pick your examples a bit more carefully;-)
Uh, Oh! It's harder than I thought!
Your criticism of generating question/answer pairs is insightful. Don't forget that the bots can also learn to read the pictograms (I think there's a paper on this linked off the captcha.org home page). Whatever type of turing test you come up with, there are likely to be holes in it.
I'm also aware that even a small hole can be just as bad as a big one. I guess the question is whether you can have enough of an advantage in the race to make it worthwhile. My position is that it's worthwhile. You just have to have a good enough way of generating question/answer pairs.
The whole of security is an arms race. Some quarters have it pretty well figured out, and others are relatively clueless. You can buy a cheapo firewall appliance and have it do its job perfectly. There are other ways an attacker can mess with you, but it still is good to have the firewall.
We shall see. I hope someone tries it, because I'd like to see how they come up with the q/a pairs. Maybe you could scrape sentences off of the news sites and use them for input.
What they should do is use a question, written out in regular HTML text that is easy for a human to answer but hard for a computer. Example: What color is the sky on a cloudless day? Another example: My name is Joe Frank Smith. What are my initials?
Think those are easy for basic AI bots? Then try them with one of the existing online bots.
Seems like the problem with this (as opposed to generating pictures) is that it's hard to generate question/answer pairs where there is a one-word or obvious single answer. You don't want to use yes/no questions or questions where the answer is a word in the question ("Which is heavier, lead or cotton?").
"HiveCache's revolutionary SwarmBackup and SwarmStorage technology give you high-reliability backup/restore and data storage services by storing data in the free disk space on desktop PCs in your enterprise. HiveCache technology uses peer-to-peer technology to build a reliable and fault-tolerant distributed storage mesh for your backup data, eliminating the network bottlenecks usually associated with network backup systems and without forcing you to purchase costly server storage that will quickly become obsolete."
A really well designed system for backups (not a RAID replacement, but that did not seem to be teh question).
Planes are used by a company which sells transportation to the public. It's different from a private car. A better analogy might be taxis having black box recorders.
The objection is that it's an invasion of privacy to have a device in your private car recording what you do, without you being able to turn it off.
Another objection is that these things are not proven to be accurate.
additionally, one could make the case that since commercial entities are out to make money, increase shareholder value, and generally are only interested in the bottom line, they would probably do a worse job than orgs and longbeards. in fact, it would be in their interest to do the bare minimum they can get away with (because that would save money) while still maintaining their revenue stream. they're contractually obligated to do a shit job.
A summary, if you like: beware of using this software (which thousands of people have developed and give away for free) because you might have to actually honor the license that comes with the software! Imagine that.
It's not indicated anywhere on the pages what the numbers represent (speed? amount of data read/written?), but if it's not obvious, green indicates the winner and red indicates the loser.
Sounds like he just came up with the term "smart mobs" and then tried to figure out what it meant.
You know, the people in NYC who were doing the mobs stopped doing them. I wonder if it has anything to do with the pretentious bullshit they were immediately associated with. Obviously, these mobs in NY were a joke, a dumb but fun stunt. Suddenly, some jerk like Rheingold decides he understands the "text" and it's a semiotics class circa 1995 all over again. So he gets interviewed because the people who were clever enough to pull off these mob things are remaining anonymous.
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Strange question. There is no more guarantee in the semantic web that anyone will tell the truth, than in the current html web. That is not the point.
You could use a web-of-trust style system though, or reification, to try to build a reputation system that would resist the type of gaming you describe. This is not an inherent feature of the semantic web, but it would be easier to do than with the current web.
it does not beg the question, it raises the question.
a definition:
Any form of argument in which the conclusion occurs as one of the premisses, or a chain of arguments in which the final conclusion is a premiss of one of the earlier arguments in the chain.
Example:
"To cast abortion as a solely private moral question,...is to lose touch with common sense: How human beings treat one another is practically the definition of a public moral matter. Of course, there are many private aspects of human relations, but the question whether one human being should be allowed fatally to harm another is not one of them. Abortion is an inescapably public matter."
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While this is an example of a page with a sidebar.
This is only worth commenting on because I had no idea what the hell you meant.
It's not the worst thing in the world to be a spammer. Neither is it the worst thing to hit someone with a baseball bat.
more like the pattern is "random car bomb attacks" -> single "powerful hijacking scheme" -> "random car bomb attacks".
derive or extrapolate from that a "pattern" to fit your ideology. "Many high-ranking members are dead or in custody," and "Seems to be working pretty well" -- maybe asking them would have worked just as well. would have cost a lot less.
or just continue to believe in make-believe.
it's also not quite clear that making an exact duplicate copy, where it does not degrade the original, is "theft".
it's infringement of copyright. just like when people used to tape albums for their friends, just on a different scale.
(Sorry for sort of dissing model railroaders and longbeards, two groups for whom I have much respect.)
the thing that is cool (and rare) about working on bicycles is that there are basic standards, just like with desktop computers. you can pull pedals off one bike, wheels off another, and a fork off another and they are likely to all work together. of course, this is not 100%, but the parts are a lot more stnadard than, say, on a car or motorcycle where each model has its own parts design and there is little interchangability. this makes tikering with bikes lots of fun.
without a standard, nobody's going to want to make or buy a bike with a specialized drive train for which parts will soon become unavailable. just like you wouldn't buy a computer with a proprietary disk interface (unless you had some special need).
I really didn't mean to use the same format question and just change the insignificant bits. It just so happens that the examples I chose are bad. I really mean you have to have a supply of question/answer pairs where the answer is obvious and not contained in the question.
That this is a problem only AI can solve has not been demonstrated. It's clear that it's a hard problem, though.
Maybe you could come up with a model for simple things that people understand and then use data available on the web to generate the questions.
Uh, Oh! It's harder than I thought!
Your criticism of generating question/answer pairs is insightful. Don't forget that the bots can also learn to read the pictograms (I think there's a paper on this linked off the captcha.org home page). Whatever type of turing test you come up with, there are likely to be holes in it.
I'm also aware that even a small hole can be just as bad as a big one. I guess the question is whether you can have enough of an advantage in the race to make it worthwhile. My position is that it's worthwhile. You just have to have a good enough way of generating question/answer pairs.
The whole of security is an arms race. Some quarters have it pretty well figured out, and others are relatively clueless. You can buy a cheapo firewall appliance and have it do its job perfectly. There are other ways an attacker can mess with you, but it still is good to have the firewall.
We shall see. I hope someone tries it, because I'd like to see how they come up with the q/a pairs. Maybe you could scrape sentences off of the news sites and use them for input.
Enough blabbering...
The way I see it, we win either way (unless these spammer-created bots become our new overlords).
Think those are easy for basic AI bots? Then try them with one of the existing online bots.
Seems like the problem with this (as opposed to generating pictures) is that it's hard to generate question/answer pairs where there is a one-word or obvious single answer. You don't want to use yes/no questions or questions where the answer is a word in the question ("Which is heavier, lead or cotton?").
Strange comment in light of your sig.
Green Party: Debian & Apache/mod_perl.
My desision is made.
"HiveCache's revolutionary SwarmBackup and SwarmStorage technology give you high-reliability backup/restore and data storage services by storing data in the free disk space on desktop PCs in your enterprise. HiveCache technology uses peer-to-peer technology to build a reliable and fault-tolerant distributed storage mesh for your backup data, eliminating the network bottlenecks usually associated with network backup systems and without forcing you to purchase costly server storage that will quickly become obsolete."
A really well designed system for backups (not a RAID replacement, but that did not seem to be teh question).
The objection is that it's an invasion of privacy to have a device in your private car recording what you do, without you being able to turn it off.
Another objection is that these things are not proven to be accurate.
You keep using that word -- I do not think it means, what you think it means.
additionally, one could make the case that since commercial entities are out to make money, increase shareholder value, and generally are only interested in the bottom line, they would probably do a worse job than orgs and longbeards. in fact, it would be in their interest to do the bare minimum they can get away with (because that would save money) while still maintaining their revenue stream. they're contractually obligated to do a shit job.
A summary, if you like: beware of using this software (which thousands of people have developed and give away for free) because you might have to actually honor the license that comes with the software! Imagine that.
What inquiry? I just said it didn't crash.
nice try.
Well said. I remember napster. This is not napster. Napster was cool.
It's not indicated anywhere on the pages what the numbers represent (speed? amount of data read/written?), but if it's not obvious, green indicates the winner and red indicates the loser.
Sounds like he just came up with the term "smart mobs" and then tried to figure out what it meant.
You know, the people in NYC who were doing the mobs stopped doing them. I wonder if it has anything to do with the pretentious bullshit they were immediately associated with. Obviously, these mobs in NY were a joke, a dumb but fun stunt. Suddenly, some jerk like Rheingold decides he understands the "text" and it's a semiotics class circa 1995 all over again. So he gets interviewed because the people who were clever enough to pull off these mob things are remaining anonymous.
You could use a web-of-trust style system though, or reification, to try to build a reputation system that would resist the type of gaming you describe. This is not an inherent feature of the semantic web, but it would be easier to do than with the current web.
A favorite quote: "EMACS is a nice editor too, but because it costs hundreds of dollars, there will always be people who won't buy it."
Another one: "Real programmers use cat as their editor."