Efficient graphics as in, don't add a useless chip that draws significantly more than the CPU on my server.
On a server, you do not need a graphics chip at all. Serial console is your answer. That pretty much uses up no power at all.
PCIe is useful indeed for adding NICs and other I/O. If the hypothetical board already has a few NICs, adding a few more is probably overkill. Other IO? Don't need PCIe for that, regular PCI provides enough bandwidth *except* for Gigabit NICs and graphics cards.
I thought you implied, by saying that you *didn't* want an "old inefficient 3D video accelerator", that you wanted a "modern efficient 3D accelerator". Especially, because you specified it, and they said you needed PCIe. What's the PCIe going to be for?
I understand the need for a low-power, multi-GigE-NIC, multi-SATA server... However, I was a bit mystified that you needed an extra PCIe. Oh, a few USB would be nice to use USB harddisks for backup or something....
So, contrary to what you might think, we're in agreement, I just didn't understand your comment. (In all honesty it was quite ambiguous)
You're complaining? I didn't even find a EEE PC 20g... I ordered a 701 4G and it arrived today (or better said, my dad just emailed me that it arrived. I let my stuff deliver there because he's retired and as such at home)
In the subject you say "Small Server" and further you say you want efficient 3D video acceleration. I don't get that. Why does a server need 3D video acceleration? Isn't a serial console enough for you?
but is there no way to list your hobby experience on your C.V.?
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If not why not a cover letter?
There is and I do both: I write these things in my cover lettre and they are mentioned on my resume. I don't know why it doesn't interest anyone in my geographical area.
The only thing that seems to count is work experience. That and eventually your degree, but work experience comes first. I have a degree in computer science, I'm not "just merely" a Java coder.
It's like when I sent my resume for an sysadmin position that had to talk and write French, English and Dutch. The last one is hard around here, but I talk and write Dutch. I got back the reply "too senior". Yeah, well, no shit! However, you ain't gonna find anyone with the conditions you set. They just don't seem to think further than their conditions and those must be met exactly.
I have those on my resume... I have never had anyone even ask about those. (Okay, not the "objectives" as this doesn't seem to be a usual point in my country. That's what the cover letter is for.)
I tried the "OMG" sentence in a more civilized version. Somehow, I never got a reply on *that* once;-))
To be honest, it's most likely a regional thing. I have complained about this many times and I do have "personal experience" on my CV. However, in my country this really seems to have a negative impact. I never once had someone actually even ask about it and I only get called for Java jobs (mainly because of my "experience" I guess).
You can always take a look at my resume. Positive criticism is always welcomed.
I wasn't attacking you personally, I was just ranting because I've been trying to get a Unix job for sooooo long, that it's becoming frustrating. (Okay, last contract work was Linux/C development, but now it's back to Java/Windows... *sigh*)
CVs full of "XP this and Vista that and Microsoft this and web2.0 that" came in but only two with any real skill.
And what exactly do you expect me to tell you if I've been doing Java on Windows (deployed usually on Solaris) for the last ten years? Some of us just slid in such positions, and try to get out. I have extensive Linux and OpenBSD skills because that's what I do at home, but I cannot provide a single professional reference to that.
You'd essentially get my CV and think "another one of those useless guys"... Have you ever considered that at least some of those people try to get out of the Microsoft lock-in and do have some skills but simply didn't ever get a chance proving it?
I'm just saying because I'm one of those guys with what you consider a crap CV and I try to make it up in my cover letter. So far, nobody ever replied. Sure, recruiters call me, but there it stops.
The tip that most people give is that you should contribute to an open source project and get your name out. Fair enough.... That's about the only thing I can do about it and I doubt I'd get taken seriously by you even if I did.
Okay, then... I haven't seen any because I live in Europe and we don't have Best Buy (at least not anywhere near where I live) In my part of the world, Dell only sells by the Internet.
Wait a second, you try to prove me wrong with a link to the Asus EEE PC in an article that is titled: "Dell Shows Off Its EEE PC". You do see a problem in you logic, don't you? Of course the EEE PC is 300$, everyone on slashdot knows that by now. Heck, mine is underway!
So, the point is that the "Dell Rival" is going to have better specs but be around 500$ AND be small. Except for the EEE PC, all sub-500$ laptops are large.
Well considering that "small-size" used to be a high-priced premium, I think that a small but cheap laptop is probably the better choice for the mobile individual. The 300$ models you speak of are usually 15.4" models and those aren't exactly small or lightweight.
With that resolution it really looks like a solid competitor to the Asus EEE PC. I'm still waiting for my Asus EEE PC 701 4G to arrive:-( The only thing I'm really worried about is that the screen might really be too small. That said, my first laptop had a 640x480 colour TFT screen and that worked well. Of course software has changed a bit.
Thank you for your post... It was really interesting.
It is mainly a case of how you think. My dad was of the generation where you got one job, worked 40 years, and then you got retired. He felt betrayed. You have to understand that the conditions have changed, and what he learned wasn't true anymore.
I myself, have always (since day one) said "I do not work for a company, I work *with* people". In 2005, I did a very bad career choice: I went into teaching and it wasn't for me. In 2006, I returned to IT, and the people I worked with had remembered me. I was in grand total without work for 10 days.
That's kinda scary.... If my dad had manage to have 20 years instead of 19 years and 10 months or so, he would have had major benefits if he were fired just two months later. Perhaps it was indeed a way to get rid of the older people. We never saw it that way.
That said, I live in Europe. Pension isn't paid by the companies, it's paid by the government. So I still have doubts that this is the real reason.
But that you've got an irrational approach? Yes, I'm trying to tell you that.
Irrational in what way? Because I prefer science and verifiable facts over interpretation?
I didn't even start off as an atheist. Back in my early teen years I was very religious. All that started to wane off, once I got a good science education (physics, chemistry, biology), I started to see that my questions could be explained by something else than "magic". At that point I pretty much became agnostic. Later on, seeing the insanity of fundies on the Internet, I turned atheist. I do not think I have been irrational. I pretty much went the way from religious to atheist in over 15 years, finding answers along the way.
I now, indeed, have a hard time with people that refer to a book and say "it's the word of God and it has all answers". Is that irrational? Is my growth from a devout christian to an atheist irrational? I hope not, but if it is, I will gladly be on top of your "not intelligent" list.
And yes, if I've done that and you haven't, my opinion is worth more than yours.
You still haven't told me what the point is of studying the Bible. The only reason being that it's "The Words of God" (quoting you there)? Who told you that, and why do you think it's true? That is simply not convincing to me.
Why is studying the Bible so much more worth than, say, studying the plays of Shakespeare?
Heck, why is the Qu'ran or the Greek Mythologies not the word of God? They have equal claims and equal arguments.
You may not have come from a fundamentalist background, but you default into that approach--an approach that you probably wouldn't use when reading any other book.
Nah, I only default to it on the Internet to enrage the religious.
A Christian can be a skeptic--and if that thought seems inherently laughable to you, then I suspect you're in this "blind" category.
Evidently they can, because a Skeptic is pretty much someone who applies the scientific method. However, a Christian Skeptic is someone who has not yet confronted his religion with reason. I'm not even talking evolution vs. creation and all that crap. I'm talking about free will versus the omniscience of God. I'm talking about the omnipotence of God, yet if he can act on our world he is bound to the laws of physics (or else we should detect forces that are unexplainable to physics), but being bound to physics implies he's not omnipotent. I'm not even talking about the Bible here.
So, yes, there are Christian skeptics and Christian scientists. I'm sure they do their work right and are very good scientists, but they accept a bit irrationality in their lives because of religion. As said before, I have no problem with that. They can believe anything they want, but they are not being consequent in being skeptics and being scientists.
there are reasonable interpretations, and unreasonable ones.
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Reading a text is subject to rules; words have meanings.
True, true.... Yet who gets to chose what is reasonable and what is not? Let's get back to "Sell your stuff". I liked your explanation. It sounded very reasonable. They guy was rich and it was the only thing that counted for him and in order to find peace and God he had to part with it. Similarly, Jesus might ask me to part from my family if I had been at that point talking with him.
Now, you and I find your explanation very reasonable. However, what about an Hermit? He might have taken it literally and we are the ones being unreasonable.
There is *no* way to say which way is "right". How can you thus use such a book as guidance. It's pretty much as asking someone "Do I have to turn right of left to get to Rome" and get the reply "All ways lead to Rome". True, but not very helpful.
The problem is and stays interpretation. Because considering what is reasonable or unreasonable is *part* of the interpretation.
I know intelligent atheists who don't have to go there.
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Point taken... I hereby withdraw my question as for why one could need another PCIe.
On a server, you do not need a graphics chip at all. Serial console is your answer. That pretty much uses up no power at all.
PCIe is useful indeed for adding NICs and other I/O. If the hypothetical board already has a few NICs, adding a few more is probably overkill. Other IO? Don't need PCIe for that, regular PCI provides enough bandwidth *except* for Gigabit NICs and graphics cards.
I thought you implied, by saying that you *didn't* want an "old inefficient 3D video accelerator", that you wanted a "modern efficient 3D accelerator". Especially, because you specified it, and they said you needed PCIe. What's the PCIe going to be for?
I understand the need for a low-power, multi-GigE-NIC, multi-SATA server... However, I was a bit mystified that you needed an extra PCIe. Oh, a few USB would be nice to use USB harddisks for backup or something....
So, contrary to what you might think, we're in agreement, I just didn't understand your comment. (In all honesty it was quite ambiguous)
You're complaining? I didn't even find a EEE PC 20g... I ordered a 701 4G and it arrived today (or better said, my dad just emailed me that it arrived. I let my stuff deliver there because he's retired and as such at home)
In the subject you say "Small Server" and further you say you want efficient 3D video acceleration. I don't get that. Why does a server need 3D video acceleration? Isn't a serial console enough for you?
Ever heard of Soekris? That's what you are asking for....
There is and I do both: I write these things in my cover lettre and they are mentioned on my resume. I don't know why it doesn't interest anyone in my geographical area.
The only thing that seems to count is work experience. That and eventually your degree, but work experience comes first. I have a degree in computer science, I'm not "just merely" a Java coder.
It's like when I sent my resume for an sysadmin position that had to talk and write French, English and Dutch. The last one is hard around here, but I talk and write Dutch. I got back the reply "too senior". Yeah, well, no shit! However, you ain't gonna find anyone with the conditions you set. They just don't seem to think further than their conditions and those must be met exactly.
I have those on my resume... I have never had anyone even ask about those. (Okay, not the "objectives" as this doesn't seem to be a usual point in my country. That's what the cover letter is for.)
I tried the "OMG" sentence in a more civilized version. Somehow, I never got a reply on *that* once ;-))
To be honest, it's most likely a regional thing. I have complained about this many times and I do have "personal experience" on my CV. However, in my country this really seems to have a negative impact. I never once had someone actually even ask about it and I only get called for Java jobs (mainly because of my "experience" I guess).
You can always take a look at my resume. Positive criticism is always welcomed.
I wasn't attacking you personally, I was just ranting because I've been trying to get a Unix job for sooooo long, that it's becoming frustrating. (Okay, last contract work was Linux/C development, but now it's back to Java/Windows... *sigh*)
And what exactly do you expect me to tell you if I've been doing Java on Windows (deployed usually on Solaris) for the last ten years? Some of us just slid in such positions, and try to get out. I have extensive Linux and OpenBSD skills because that's what I do at home, but I cannot provide a single professional reference to that.
You'd essentially get my CV and think "another one of those useless guys"... Have you ever considered that at least some of those people try to get out of the Microsoft lock-in and do have some skills but simply didn't ever get a chance proving it?
I'm just saying because I'm one of those guys with what you consider a crap CV and I try to make it up in my cover letter. So far, nobody ever replied. Sure, recruiters call me, but there it stops.
The tip that most people give is that you should contribute to an open source project and get your name out. Fair enough.... That's about the only thing I can do about it and I doubt I'd get taken seriously by you even if I did.
*whooosh*
Okay, then... I haven't seen any because I live in Europe and we don't have Best Buy (at least not anywhere near where I live) In my part of the world, Dell only sells by the Internet.
We're talking Dell.... I have never seen a Dell computer in a brick and mortar computer store.
For the rest, I agree... The Atom sounds nice, and is highly desirable, but there aren't any right now that you can buy.
The Asus has at least one thing: it's there and you can buy it.
Wait a second, you try to prove me wrong with a link to the Asus EEE PC in an article that is titled: "Dell Shows Off Its EEE PC". You do see a problem in you logic, don't you? Of course the EEE PC is 300$, everyone on slashdot knows that by now. Heck, mine is underway!
So, the point is that the "Dell Rival" is going to have better specs but be around 500$ AND be small. Except for the EEE PC, all sub-500$ laptops are large.
Well considering that "small-size" used to be a high-priced premium, I think that a small but cheap laptop is probably the better choice for the mobile individual. The 300$ models you speak of are usually 15.4" models and those aren't exactly small or lightweight.
With that resolution it really looks like a solid competitor to the Asus EEE PC. I'm still waiting for my Asus EEE PC 701 4G to arrive :-( The only thing I'm really worried about is that the screen might really be too small. That said, my first laptop had a 640x480 colour TFT screen and that worked well. Of course software has changed a bit.
Start the Windows Vista and Windows Seven bashing!
Thank you for your post... It was really interesting.
It is mainly a case of how you think. My dad was of the generation where you got one job, worked 40 years, and then you got retired. He felt betrayed. You have to understand that the conditions have changed, and what he learned wasn't true anymore.
I myself, have always (since day one) said "I do not work for a company, I work *with* people". In 2005, I did a very bad career choice: I went into teaching and it wasn't for me. In 2006, I returned to IT, and the people I worked with had remembered me. I was in grand total without work for 10 days.
That's kinda scary.... If my dad had manage to have 20 years instead of 19 years and 10 months or so, he would have had major benefits if he were fired just two months later. Perhaps it was indeed a way to get rid of the older people. We never saw it that way.
That said, I live in Europe. Pension isn't paid by the companies, it's paid by the government. So I still have doubts that this is the real reason.
You made me sceptical though....
Ah, but atheism isn't a religion. It's a philosophy. To be a religion you need something to worship. Kinda hard when you don't worship anything.
Irrational in what way? Because I prefer science and verifiable facts over interpretation?
I didn't even start off as an atheist. Back in my early teen years I was very religious. All that started to wane off, once I got a good science education (physics, chemistry, biology), I started to see that my questions could be explained by something else than "magic". At that point I pretty much became agnostic. Later on, seeing the insanity of fundies on the Internet, I turned atheist. I do not think I have been irrational. I pretty much went the way from religious to atheist in over 15 years, finding answers along the way.
I now, indeed, have a hard time with people that refer to a book and say "it's the word of God and it has all answers". Is that irrational? Is my growth from a devout christian to an atheist irrational? I hope not, but if it is, I will gladly be on top of your "not intelligent" list.
You still haven't told me what the point is of studying the Bible. The only reason being that it's "The Words of God" (quoting you there)? Who told you that, and why do you think it's true? That is simply not convincing to me.
Why is studying the Bible so much more worth than, say, studying the plays of Shakespeare?
Heck, why is the Qu'ran or the Greek Mythologies not the word of God? They have equal claims and equal arguments.
Well, because he was 47 at the time, and still have another few years before retirement.
Nah, I only default to it on the Internet to enrage the religious.
Evidently they can, because a Skeptic is pretty much someone who applies the scientific method. However, a Christian Skeptic is someone who has not yet confronted his religion with reason. I'm not even talking evolution vs. creation and all that crap. I'm talking about free will versus the omniscience of God. I'm talking about the omnipotence of God, yet if he can act on our world he is bound to the laws of physics (or else we should detect forces that are unexplainable to physics), but being bound to physics implies he's not omnipotent. I'm not even talking about the Bible here.
So, yes, there are Christian skeptics and Christian scientists. I'm sure they do their work right and are very good scientists, but they accept a bit irrationality in their lives because of religion. As said before, I have no problem with that. They can believe anything they want, but they are not being consequent in being skeptics and being scientists.
True, true.... Yet who gets to chose what is reasonable and what is not? Let's get back to "Sell your stuff". I liked your explanation. It sounded very reasonable. They guy was rich and it was the only thing that counted for him and in order to find peace and God he had to part with it. Similarly, Jesus might ask me to part from my family if I had been at that point talking with him.
Now, you and I find your explanation very reasonable. However, what about an Hermit? He might have taken it literally and we are the ones being unreasonable.
There is *no* way to say which way is "right". How can you thus use such a book as guidance. It's pretty much as asking someone "Do I have to turn right of left to get to Rome" and get the reply "All ways lead to Rome". True, but not very helpful.
The problem is and stays interpretation. Because considering what is reasonable or unreasonable is *part* of the interpretation.
You're trying to tell me something there, right?