I haven't seen one Apple switch ad here in Europe. I bought my Mac for OS X. For the rest of it, I am not going to disagree because I tend to get involved in too many Mac flamewars.
I'm not a classic mac-fanboy. I use Windows, Linux, BSD and Mac OS X. That OS X is just my favourite desktop is just a personal preference.
Well...it depends. I have an iBook, so everything is rather close to each other. I suspect that on a desktop it's different. For cut paste I usually just use Apple-C/V/X. My thumb usually hangs around the apple key. Goes very fast.
I miss the wheel button too on any x86 machine that doesn't have one, but the laptop alternatives are not really great. Most of the time on x86 laptops I find myself using a real mouse anyway.
But tastes differ. For me it is right, for you it might be a hassle.
Above that you don't really need a second mouse button. I bought a Mac last year and thought I'd never manage. Well, I still use the trackpad, the modifier buttons are close enough to use comfortably.
Logitec 2button/1mousewheel optical mice are my choice for my Linux machines. I couldn't live without three mouse buttons under XFree86.
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Hmmmm... The CGA and EGA porn pics I have somewhere around really are outdated by my standards now. I remember my first MCGA (VGA 320x200x8bit) porn pics and was amazed!
À bit offtopic, but I seem to recall a playstation game that includes a device which could be used by females to stimulate themselves. If I just had a link.:-(
My nickname has nothing to do with this. I found it funny, you apparently don't.
Oh, indeed I often use the terminal to ssh to other machines. You are right, however it doesn't stop there. I usually use vi to code some html and C and compile it on my Mac. I use IRC clients on in the terminal and I saved my butt at work by having access to a Unix machine where Windows failed me (tons of small little files is not exactly the strong point of Windows) Oh, and I run Tomcat on my Mac... I do need the command line to control that baby.
The fact that I can switch from the command line to a game or browsing without having to bother about configuration issues like on Linux really is a big pro for me. As you can tell I'm not entirely a Mac fan because I do use other kind of machines (I'll get a second hand Sun soon). For me a Mac is a great desktop OS. That you don't like Aqua, well, is just yet again, a matter of taste.
I don't see what the license stuff has to do with it. I never ever mentioned licenses in my post. That OS X is a BSD does not matter to me, they might as well have built on AIX. What counts for me is the end-result. GPL might be superior to BSD in many respects, but I tend to prefer BSD. That again is a matter of taste. I have tried Debian, yes I did, but I never got the hang of apt-get. You want to install an app and suddenly it wants to install perl? WFT? Perl? I don't need perl, but the app does seem to need it. That's one of the things I don't get about Debian. I thought it was supposed to be about being able to have a sleek-trimmed down system.
Yes, apple hardware is slower. So what? I still use 166Mhz machines (P-I class), I don't need speed. I didn't say I *hate* the apps that Apple bundles, well some are not to my liking, but a little move to the trashcan and it's all over. Do that with Windows Media player or Internet Explorer on a Windows box. Ouch! This has nothing to do with consumerism. I have a car, and it has an autoradio. Well this thing comes with tons of features I don't even know and don't need at all. I still bought the radio because I wanted to be able to play music. That's it. You tell me I should take EE classes, build my own carradio that just plays music and install it in my car. Hmmm, what's better? Buying something out of the box that works but has too many features, or learning to do it yourself investing probably a lot of money to get the parts and then build it yourself?
Oh, come on... often you can even marry your cousin, you just have to ask for permission. I know a european country where you have to ask the king for permission.
Fucking your cousin isn't that sick. Not that I would do it, but I don't see it as fundamentally sick. After all sex is just a way to have fun. I just think thah having children with your cousin isn't the wisest thing to do.
I have seen what you describe in a NT4/Office2k and W2k/Office2k situation. Wasn't on a Windows domain, used Novell.
At home I just stayed on W2k/Office97. Works fine for my needs, and only had minor issues with Macro's if you don't run it as Admin (due to security settings in the registry). But that's all documented quite well at microsofts site.
Strange... what you say is that we Mac users just stay in the graphical comfy part of the OS and never touch the terminal? Hmmmm.
That's kind of strange because my terminal is about always open, often in an SSH to one of my *BSD boxen. You want to know what was the selling point for a Mac for me? It was (and still is) OS X, I don't have to use the mess that Windows is, but I don't have the hassle of managing a Linux system. (I prefer BSD anyway) I may not be a typical Mac OS X user, and you will never hear me say "it comes bundled with flashy apps" because I hate that, you'll never hear me say a Mac is faster because it's not. I couldn't care less about "displayPDF", and I know only about displayPDF because I read it on slashdot: I guess the "standard" Mac user doesn't know and doesn't care.
No, you're right. Your comment was flamebait. If you don't like Macs, buy yourself a Dell with bloated XP and shut up. Besides, you claim to run LinuxPPC. Okay, that is very 31337, I have reserved a 5 Gig partition for it on my iBook. Yet strangely enough I am very satisfied with what OS X offers. LinuxPPC... I'll think about it when my iBook cannot cope OS XI, or I could just stick with OS X 10.1.5 as I do now.
No... You are wrong. I have been running a Pentium Pro 200 as a main Workstation for over 5 years. Yes, it was a kickass machine back in the day but now it only makes geeks smile because they actually know what a PPro is. Apart from minor upgrades over the years it stayed original.
Other example, closer to what you are thinking: I built a K6-II 333Mhz/384Meg RAM for my sister. All built from spare parts (except the harddisk and the memory). My sis is damned happy with it. It does what she needs, and with the graphic card she can even play 1 year old games with a reasonable performance.
And it doesn't stop there: a P166? Useless you say. No... It's not... A nice P166/128Meg RAM running OpenBSD with Apache, Samba, Sendmail, and FTP makes a kick-ass server for any family.
I can even do better: I have a P120/32Meg RAM running Linux with WindowMaker. That thing can play MP3's while surfing the web. Your mom needs more than that? I doubt it...
What the world needs are people that know to choose the software that matches the hardware. Promoting 2Ghz++ machines is just not right. I'd go for dual anyway.
Sure... and you think the US is free nowadays? I personally think that Mr Bush sees himself as emperor of the world, well at least he acts like it.
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You are forgetting the cute dutch chicks, and they have a really low age of consent!;-) Of course my abuse of weed probably impairs my vision.
OT: I was really surprised to see Denmark as one of the two countries that signed the treaty. I thought they were more open-minded. But this probably is just a first battle,.. that EuroDCMA will come back to haunt us. Where do I sign to stop it?
Target for the future: something that can do real-time raytracing (isn't raycasting even better?) on a sub-1000$ machine while attaining at least 50frames per second in complex levels.
I don't care what the hardware should be, but a console/PC that cannot do that isn't worth talking about.
I with you on this one! Unfortunately it's too late: the youngsters of today only know first person shooters and think that a game should be like that. We oldie can refer to any good game of "back in the day" and even run it (DOS/emulator/on an old machine) to show the youngsters what we liked. However, without NVidia graphics and dolby surround sound they will hardly be impressed.:-(
And in the end it's just the mighty dollar that rules what comes on the market. There is no demand for what you describe, well, at least according to those in charge.
Say, the game you described... wasn't that essentially Elite? Just wondering...
Hmmm, it's a bit different if you get spammed by someone and then take revenge than spamming someone just because you don't like him.
But you were right to point out to the exception of the rule.
While you mean it funny... I'd rather say you shouldn't do stuff like that. I mean, even if you dislike someone that much, it still ethically unacceptable to nag people that way. If you would dislike this happening to yourself, you shouldn't do it to anyone! Just ignore people that you don't like.
I've recently heard of people nagging Trolls on Slashdot by phone/email/sms and I think that's even more childish than being a Troll on slashdot. (Note: even though my nick says I'm a Troll, I'm not... I'm a converted Troll.)
... but what is fun about Sports Games? I just don't see the appeal of them. Even if they dominate Sports Games, I couldn't care less... It's not where my money will be going.
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Nice Troll. You even got an insightful for this? I just see it as gratuitous Windows bashing and also equating internet usage with wealthy people. While I don't like Windows myself (writing this on a Mac), you have no reason to bash it in this context.
Writing webpages can be as cheap as using the online resources to learn HTML and using a free good text editor.
Besides, you do realise that many people that get broadband will simply use the machine they have. Even many of the so called "wealthy" people often still use their 3 year old PC running ME or 98.
I will not say that having broadband does not imply some wealth, but publishing webpages goes even when you have a 28.8kbps modem. I know, I did that back in the day. As for using Frontpage: how many people actually have bought Frontpage? Probably most people just use a pirated version, even "the whealty ones". You have no idea how many people actually think it is stupid to pay for software (I don't think that, but I know many people who think exactly that).
I found it pretty sad he had to look it up: anyone who did a bit of literature in highschool should have known the word "neologism". It's common vocabulary, in my humble opinion.
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I haven't seen one Apple switch ad here in Europe. I bought my Mac for OS X. For the rest of it, I am not going to disagree because I tend to get involved in too many Mac flamewars.
I'm not a classic mac-fanboy. I use Windows, Linux, BSD and Mac OS X. That OS X is just my favourite desktop is just a personal preference.
I miss the wheel button too on any x86 machine that doesn't have one, but the laptop alternatives are not really great. Most of the time on x86 laptops I find myself using a real mouse anyway.
But tastes differ. For me it is right, for you it might be a hassle.
Oops... My bad. Click here for those are as lazy as me to remove spaces.
Above that you don't really need a second mouse button. I bought a Mac last year and thought I'd never manage. Well, I still use the trackpad, the modifier buttons are close enough to use comfortably.
Logitec 2button/1mousewheel optical mice are my choice for my Linux machines. I couldn't live without three mouse buttons under XFree86.
Hmmmm... The CGA and EGA porn pics I have somewhere around really are outdated by my standards now.
I remember my first MCGA (VGA 320x200x8bit) porn pics and was amazed!
Sorry, 404.
I had this link in my email archives but because it didn't work anymore, I didn't post it.
It's an Manga I believe.
À bit offtopic, but I seem to recall a playstation game that includes a device which could be used by females to stimulate themselves. If I just had a link. :-(
I'm sorry... I know that. I should have said "composed". I was just lazy to write "compose html and code C".
Replace 1 with L, 3 with E and 7 with T. Then you'll get it.
Oh, indeed I often use the terminal to ssh to other machines. You are right, however it doesn't stop there. I usually use vi to code some html and C and compile it on my Mac. I use IRC clients on in the terminal and I saved my butt at work by having access to a Unix machine where Windows failed me (tons of small little files is not exactly the strong point of Windows) Oh, and I run Tomcat on my Mac... I do need the command line to control that baby.
The fact that I can switch from the command line to a game or browsing without having to bother about configuration issues like on Linux really is a big pro for me. As you can tell I'm not entirely a Mac fan because I do use other kind of machines (I'll get a second hand Sun soon). For me a Mac is a great desktop OS. That you don't like Aqua, well, is just yet again, a matter of taste.
I don't see what the license stuff has to do with it. I never ever mentioned licenses in my post. That OS X is a BSD does not matter to me, they might as well have built on AIX. What counts for me is the end-result. GPL might be superior to BSD in many respects, but I tend to prefer BSD. That again is a matter of taste.
I have tried Debian, yes I did, but I never got the hang of apt-get. You want to install an app and suddenly it wants to install perl? WFT? Perl? I don't need perl, but the app does seem to need it. That's one of the things I don't get about Debian. I thought it was supposed to be about being able to have a sleek-trimmed down system.
Yes, apple hardware is slower. So what? I still use 166Mhz machines (P-I class), I don't need speed. I didn't say I *hate* the apps that Apple bundles, well some are not to my liking, but a little move to the trashcan and it's all over. Do that with Windows Media player or Internet Explorer on a Windows box. Ouch! This has nothing to do with consumerism. I have a car, and it has an autoradio. Well this thing comes with tons of features I don't even know and don't need at all. I still bought the radio because I wanted to be able to play music. That's it. You tell me I should take EE classes, build my own carradio that just plays music and install it in my car. Hmmm, what's better? Buying something out of the box that works but has too many features, or learning to do it yourself investing probably a lot of money to get the parts and then build it yourself?
I might be a Troll, but you are a Flamebaiter.
Oh, come on... often you can even marry your cousin, you just have to ask for permission. I know a european country where you have to ask the king for permission.
Fucking your cousin isn't that sick. Not that I would do it, but I don't see it as fundamentally sick. After all sex is just a way to have fun. I just think thah having children with your cousin isn't the wisest thing to do.
At home I just stayed on W2k/Office97. Works fine for my needs, and only had minor issues with Macro's if you don't run it as Admin (due to security settings in the registry). But that's all documented quite well at microsofts site.
That's kind of strange because my terminal is about always open, often in an SSH to one of my *BSD boxen. You want to know what was the selling point for a Mac for me? It was (and still is) OS X, I don't have to use the mess that Windows is, but I don't have the hassle of managing a Linux system. (I prefer BSD anyway) I may not be a typical Mac OS X user, and you will never hear me say "it comes bundled with flashy apps" because I hate that, you'll never hear me say a Mac is faster because it's not. I couldn't care less about "displayPDF", and I know only about displayPDF because I read it on slashdot: I guess the "standard" Mac user doesn't know and doesn't care.
No, you're right. Your comment was flamebait. If you don't like Macs, buy yourself a Dell with bloated XP and shut up. Besides, you claim to run LinuxPPC. Okay, that is very 31337, I have reserved a 5 Gig partition for it on my iBook. Yet strangely enough I am very satisfied with what OS X offers. LinuxPPC... I'll think about it when my iBook cannot cope OS XI, or I could just stick with OS X 10.1.5 as I do now.
Other example, closer to what you are thinking: I built a K6-II 333Mhz/384Meg RAM for my sister. All built from spare parts (except the harddisk and the memory). My sis is damned happy with it. It does what she needs, and with the graphic card she can even play 1 year old games with a reasonable performance.
And it doesn't stop there: a P166? Useless you say. No... It's not... A nice P166/128Meg RAM running OpenBSD with Apache, Samba, Sendmail, and FTP makes a kick-ass server for any family.
I can even do better: I have a P120/32Meg RAM running Linux with WindowMaker. That thing can play MP3's while surfing the web. Your mom needs more than that? I doubt it...
What the world needs are people that know to choose the software that matches the hardware. Promoting 2Ghz++ machines is just not right. I'd go for dual anyway.
Sure... and you think the US is free nowadays? I personally think that Mr Bush sees himself as emperor of the world, well at least he acts like it.
OT: I was really surprised to see Denmark as one of the two countries that signed the treaty. I thought they were more open-minded. But this probably is just a first battle,.. that EuroDCMA will come back to haunt us. Where do I sign to stop it?
Target for the future: something that can do real-time raytracing (isn't raycasting even better?) on a sub-1000$ machine while attaining at least 50frames per second in complex levels.
I don't care what the hardware should be, but a console/PC that cannot do that isn't worth talking about.
And in the end it's just the mighty dollar that rules what comes on the market. There is no demand for what you describe, well, at least according to those in charge.
Say, the game you described... wasn't that essentially Elite? Just wondering...
Hmmm, it's a bit different if you get spammed by someone and then take revenge than spamming someone just because you don't like him.
But you were right to point out to the exception of the rule.
While you mean it funny... I'd rather say you shouldn't do stuff like that. I mean, even if you dislike someone that much, it still ethically unacceptable to nag people that way. If you would dislike this happening to yourself, you shouldn't do it to anyone! Just ignore people that you don't like.
I've recently heard of people nagging Trolls on Slashdot by phone/email/sms and I think that's even more childish than being a Troll on slashdot. (Note: even though my nick says I'm a Troll, I'm not... I'm a converted Troll.)
... but what is fun about Sports Games? I just don't see the appeal of them. Even if they dominate Sports Games, I couldn't care less... It's not where my money will be going.
Writing webpages can be as cheap as using the online resources to learn HTML and using a free good text editor.
Besides, you do realise that many people that get broadband will simply use the machine they have. Even many of the so called "wealthy" people often still use their 3 year old PC running ME or 98.
I will not say that having broadband does not imply some wealth, but publishing webpages goes even when you have a 28.8kbps modem. I know, I did that back in the day. As for using Frontpage: how many people actually have bought Frontpage? Probably most people just use a pirated version, even "the whealty ones". You have no idea how many people actually think it is stupid to pay for software (I don't think that, but I know many people who think exactly that).
Is it that what nerds refer to when they say that they are in the 10-mile high club?
I found it pretty sad he had to look it up: anyone who did a bit of literature in highschool should have known the word "neologism". It's common vocabulary, in my humble opinion.