My roots in the web started with HTML coding, now I am an IA/Interface-Designer etc.
To me knitting reminds me of the days when I first learned to code HTML. If you truley get into knitting, it is just as technical. Lots of different ways to do the same thing, styles of knitting etc.
There is a huge knitting sub-culture on the internet. Knitters against bush who had "knit outs" in front of the white house durring the election, lesbian knitters who also had political protests via knitting. Lots of men who knit.
It's pretty wild, and interesting, if you like studying growing communities on the internet. To me peersonally, buying yarn is like buying a cute pair of shoes. Sometimes you want it, even if you may never wear it. It's like crack! lol
Lots of 20 somethings who knit, you might be suprised who is knitting.
it is not the tool but how you use it..
whats the saying? Guns don't kill people, people kill people..
WYSIWYG Don't kill web pages, people do!..
When i feel like putting the effort into it, I can make dreamweaver work well without nesting tables.. and without putting in wack tags.. you can even get deep into the proggy and change the way it codes - if you're truley die hard.. I believe "alistapart" did a tutorial on it.. how to change the way it writes meta tags and everything..
it would *er rather should* look ok in IE. if it doesn't, it's IE's problem.
Not true. The average user thinks if it's broken then the people who created the website suck.. and probably won't trust there service. So if it doesn't work in IE, it's the companies problem, not IE's. (though technically it may be.. we all know this is not a perfect world)
Though I agree with the point many people have made, that seeing it in low quality before hand can ruin it and is pointless, there is another thing to consider.
They are probably more concerned with the person who see it in the theater 3 times and now wants it on tape it DVD but doesn't want to spend the money on it, they can't see it in a theater by this time any way so the quality doesn't matter.
Were they *would* have purchased the DVD/Tape they are now just downloading a crappy version and watching it that way when the urge arises.
I think it's all BS either way, but that's probably where the real number loss is at.
life and jobs dont always go the way you want them, and things dont always work out perfect, if they did I would have a roomate and my CC would be paid off by now. Life is not black and white.
"One answer is that it's time to unionize. IT workers are not valued for their intelligence or problem solving ability. They're valued as "human resources" much as a company's mineral or financial resources -- to be used when necessary and discarded when useless."
Heck yeah. I was laid off about 8 months ago, I found a new job in about 2 weeks, started 2 months later. It was nerve racking. I have credit card debt from college that I am still trying to pay off, and living in your own apartment in atlanta is freakin expensive. Living by yourself makes it near impossible to build up a *real* savings for bad times. I have been working 6 months now and I am working on getting the CC's down, and a little towards saving.
My BF is also in IT and he got a pay check and eventually quit because he couldn't stand being lied to and treated like crap. He has enough savings to last maybe 2 months... seems to be about what most people have.. unless they do something stupid like us there 40k1 like I did.. because I didn't have a choise..:(
But I have a job now, yay! It's still possbile to get paid in the 50's, even if you don't code c++.
Flash is ActionScript not Lingo and it is written in dot syntax. Lingo is the language of Director, and Director is also not dot syntax, though it allows for the natural language as an alternative.
Most people do say it is "a sign of bad design"
The truth is the failure is not always that of the program, but of the person who weilds it!
It's not about the tools you use, but how you use it.
on a side note..
Director is dead because Flash 6 supports movies, one day Flash will be dead to, because something else will do something it couldn't.
It's because sometimes a flash 5 movie will play in flash 3 or some wacked out thing.. just cause it display's it doesn't mean it's displaying it correctly. (so says the flash advocate.. eeeek!)
very few see the light at the end of the tunnel. Macromedia see's it, but tends to take it to the extreme. Flash is wonderful for module sites, were you can have say.. a survey in flash, and without having to refresh the whole page you can view the reults of the survey, or take the survey.. all on the fly and DB driven. It's wonderful for small applications.
There are very few people who know how to really use flash, I personally can't code it, but I know what *can* be done. Windows API calls.. XML socket.. all kindsa crazy shiet.
I am still pissed that Flash 6 still doesn't underline A HREF tags in linked text files.. *sigh*..
anways... back to the point.. Flash is fantasic for training, along with a few other things.
I personally don't believe in making a whole site in flash, for functional reasons, use it properly and it's very powerful.
Things will eventually go up, thing eventually will go down again. The true questions is, how long will it stay down, and how long will it stay up.
I am in Atlanta, I had a friend laid off last week, but for the most part everyone has jobs, though making alot less money.
The job descriptions have still not improved and people ask for 5 years exerience in somethng that hasn't existed that long. It's just they way it is, the only thing you can do is play the game, hope for the best and take every oppertunity you can get.
People can guess at what will happen, it will go up or down, but both are inevitable.
they defnitley have alot of great aspects, but I personally havn't tried using them in actual web pages, I use it as a file formate much as one uses a Photoshop file(PSD).
I really hadn't realized that anyone had begun to use them in html pages. I am aware it's compression is better, but as a rule of thumb it is always good to give the technology time to sink into the mainstream, such as how layers are now common place, and at one time were not good to use because you could never tell when someone would see them or not.
So maybe one day PNG's will be as common place as GIF's and that's what apple is thinkin. It all seems silly to me, maybe apple is trying to gank it from macromedia.
I use PNG's everyday, as it is the file formate that firework's (macromedia) uses. It contains a "web layer" and when created in firworks you can create "slice guides" and rules. Similair to how a PSD contains layer. The only difference is, I can open a PNG in IE, though I wont see the layers, and it will be a REALLY big file, compared to what it would be if it was exported out as a gif or jpg or I guess a flat PNG.
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My roots in the web started with HTML coding, now I am an IA/Interface-Designer etc.
To me knitting reminds me of the days when I first learned to code HTML. If you truley get into knitting, it is just as technical. Lots of different ways to do the same thing, styles of knitting etc.
There is a huge knitting sub-culture on the internet. Knitters against bush who had "knit outs" in front of the white house durring the election, lesbian knitters who also had political protests via knitting. Lots of men who knit.
It's pretty wild, and interesting, if you like studying growing communities on the internet. To me peersonally, buying yarn is like buying a cute pair of shoes. Sometimes you want it, even if you may never wear it. It's like crack! lol
Lots of 20 somethings who knit, you might be suprised who is knitting.
it is not the tool but how you use it.. whats the saying? Guns don't kill people, people kill people.. WYSIWYG Don't kill web pages, people do! ..
When i feel like putting the effort into it, I can make dreamweaver work well without nesting tables.. and without putting in wack tags.. you can even get deep into the proggy and change the way it codes - if you're truley die hard.. I believe "alistapart" did a tutorial on it.. how to change the way it writes meta tags and everything..
it would *er rather should* look ok in IE. if it doesn't, it's IE's problem. Not true. The average user thinks if it's broken then the people who created the website suck.. and probably won't trust there service. So if it doesn't work in IE, it's the companies problem, not IE's. (though technically it may be.. we all know this is not a perfect world)
Though I agree with the point many people have made, that seeing it in low quality before hand can ruin it and is pointless, there is another thing to consider.
They are probably more concerned with the person who see it in the theater 3 times and now wants it on tape it DVD but doesn't want to spend the money on it, they can't see it in a theater by this time any way so the quality doesn't matter.
Were they *would* have purchased the DVD/Tape they are now just downloading a crappy version and watching it that way when the urge arises.
I think it's all BS either way, but that's probably where the real number loss is at.
life and jobs dont always go the way you want them, and things dont always work out perfect, if they did I would have a roomate and my CC would be paid off by now. Life is not black and white.
"One answer is that it's time to unionize. IT workers are not valued for their intelligence or problem solving ability. They're valued as "human resources" much as a company's mineral or financial resources -- to be used when necessary and discarded when useless." Heck yeah. I was laid off about 8 months ago, I found a new job in about 2 weeks, started 2 months later. It was nerve racking. I have credit card debt from college that I am still trying to pay off, and living in your own apartment in atlanta is freakin expensive. Living by yourself makes it near impossible to build up a *real* savings for bad times. I have been working 6 months now and I am working on getting the CC's down, and a little towards saving. My BF is also in IT and he got a pay check and eventually quit because he couldn't stand being lied to and treated like crap. He has enough savings to last maybe 2 months... seems to be about what most people have.. unless they do something stupid like us there 40k1 like I did.. because I didn't have a choise.. :(
But I have a job now, yay! It's still possbile to get paid in the 50's, even if you don't code c++.
I mean director is dot syntax as well :)
Flash is ActionScript not Lingo and it is written in dot syntax. Lingo is the language of Director, and Director is also not dot syntax, though it allows for the natural language as an alternative.
Most people do say it is "a sign of bad design" The truth is the failure is not always that of the program, but of the person who weilds it! It's not about the tools you use, but how you use it. on a side note.. Director is dead because Flash 6 supports movies, one day Flash will be dead to, because something else will do something it couldn't.
It's because sometimes a flash 5 movie will play in flash 3 or some wacked out thing.. just cause it display's it doesn't mean it's displaying it correctly. (so says the flash advocate.. eeeek!)
very few see the light at the end of the tunnel. Macromedia see's it, but tends to take it to the extreme. Flash is wonderful for module sites, were you can have say.. a survey in flash, and without having to refresh the whole page you can view the reults of the survey, or take the survey.. all on the fly and DB driven. It's wonderful for small applications.
There are very few people who know how to really use flash, I personally can't code it, but I know what *can* be done. Windows API calls.. XML socket.. all kindsa crazy shiet.
I am still pissed that Flash 6 still doesn't underline A HREF tags in linked text files.. *sigh*..
anways... back to the point.. Flash is fantasic for training, along with a few other things.
I personally don't believe in making a whole site in flash, for functional reasons, use it properly and it's very powerful.
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Things will eventually go up, thing eventually will go down again. The true questions is, how long will it stay down, and how long will it stay up. I am in Atlanta, I had a friend laid off last week, but for the most part everyone has jobs, though making alot less money. The job descriptions have still not improved and people ask for 5 years exerience in somethng that hasn't existed that long. It's just they way it is, the only thing you can do is play the game, hope for the best and take every oppertunity you can get. People can guess at what will happen, it will go up or down, but both are inevitable.
maybe they didn't mention floors because windows and tables don't have anything but air on either side of them? Maybe a floor wouldn't work?
thanks for the info! that was very insightful :)
I was wondering myself but to lazy to research..
they defnitley have alot of great aspects, but I personally havn't tried using them in actual web pages, I use it as a file formate much as one uses a Photoshop file(PSD). I really hadn't realized that anyone had begun to use them in html pages. I am aware it's compression is better, but as a rule of thumb it is always good to give the technology time to sink into the mainstream, such as how layers are now common place, and at one time were not good to use because you could never tell when someone would see them or not. So maybe one day PNG's will be as common place as GIF's and that's what apple is thinkin. It all seems silly to me, maybe apple is trying to gank it from macromedia.
I use PNG's everyday, as it is the file formate that firework's (macromedia) uses. It contains a "web layer" and when created in firworks you can create "slice guides" and rules. Similair to how a PSD contains layer. The only difference is, I can open a PNG in IE, though I wont see the layers, and it will be a REALLY big file, compared to what it would be if it was exported out as a gif or jpg or I guess a flat PNG.
This is what I plane to get my geek bf, if I can afford it!
Night Owl Optics Cyclops Compact NOCC3