At least Intel HAS a working method to lower the heat generated by the CPU, by lowering the clock speed and therefore; limiting the heat build-up in
the core.
>
AMD has a HUGE problem/s with heat in the Athlon/Duron CPUs that totally destroys the processor in seconds of cooler failure(NOT wise!).
Diode use for "feedback" of voltage is an ancient technique used by R.F. engineers for R.F. power generation to limit(feedback) some of the output's converted A.C. signal back into the transistor's base, and rises according to the generated heat in transmit. AMD will never make a penny off of me until this issue is resolved...At least Intel DID make the P-III and P4 functional even when the fan/cooler/s failed; which is VERY important to saving the costly CPU and replacing ONLY the fan/cooler "gear" that failed.
>
Speed for sped "currently" the Athlon/Duron IS faster by far in almost EVERY test other than BANDWIDTH useage, which is where Intel's P4 is geared for to begin with.
>
How about a true test of bandwidth use in server apps, or real-time video compilations?
"Raw" processor speed is okay for those that assume speed is everything, when the chipset that allows the processor to ramp up is held back by slow disk access and (UGH!) floppy access.
>
AMD makes one hell of a CPU and nobody can deny that and remain here on/. and survive.
>
I am (at one time) a true blue Intel fan, but if
AMD can't design a processor core that can survive
a fan/cooler failure without burning up totally in a second or two.....why buy it?
>
I think i can live with a now-slower P4 that WILL survive a coolant failure over a less costlier Athlon/Duron that CAN'T survive catastrophic coolant failure/s. Which is smarter to implement
and use here I ask?
>
Go visit Tom's hardware Guide site and review THEIR testing over the "great heat debate" and judge for yourself.
>
http://www6.tomshardware.com
>
While there, peruse the story on Tom's "power box"
running an Athlon CPU that's been overclocked, vapo-chilled and essentially, "cyborg'd" to run fast, and the gains made with the boosting does NOT get one much higher performance over an Intel P4 that is NOT overclocked, super cooled or any-
thing over "stock".
>
Why would i want to invest super funds just to beat the P4 in areas that are KNOWN to not be the P4's forte?
>
I can't wait for apps that ARE geared for the P4's architecture...THEN we'll see some truly amazing test results concerning the Athlon/Duron/P4 "fiasco" that soooo many are whining about right
here on/..
>
_______________FLAME SUPRESSION ON!_______________
Well golly there Miss Ruby; did my bad old.45 Colt Army revolver get up again and take a shot at you?
Hmmmm....cold steel, some brass, lead and fulminate of mercury now, somehow, HAS LIFE!
IT'S ALIVE exclaimed John ASScroft; IT'S ALIVE!
WHEN will people UNDERSTAND the FACT that INANIMATE OBJECTS CAN'AT DO A DAMNED THING, unless
it is CONTOLLED BY A HUMAN!!!!
A gun CAN'T kill, it IS the controlling person that aims, shoots and kills another, the gun can't tell steel from flesh!
Give up freedom and liberty for a bit of security, and you will get, nor deserve NEITHER!
*Oh I'll happily give up my right to bear my child so the big brave ATF agent can kill my daddy...*
Armed assault by the agents of governmental bodies are a REAL form of SOCIAL TERRORISM!
We the SHEEPLE of the UNFIT states of Amooica, and to the dictatorship to which we bow; one nation, in control of many; with despotism, and murderous control over all!
Bush bless us will you please; you're a "god" we all "love"; so, stand upon us...don't trrust us, to be on our own until you fingerprint us all...
FUCK THIS HOMELAND INSECURITY PARANOID DELUSIONS!!
GROW UP...FIGHT BACK!
WE DO HAVE THAT RIGHT!
USE OF FORCE UPON A FORCE BENT ON DICTATING WHAT YOU DO IS NOT THE LAW, BUT TERRORISM!
Hold it right there folks!
We have a "few" questions YOU WILL ANSWER, or else!
If the government of this nation decides that torture is legal, then i proclaim it to be OPEN HUNTING SEASON ON THE FEDS!
Arm yourselves, the feds will be carrying black pouches of Phenobarbital and numerous hypos for injecting hundreds of peopl, JUST LIKE YOU!
BEFORE this gets out of hand, and we all know it will; we MUST reduce the government to the size of a quibbling child, strong as a puppy, but NO TEETH!
Rights are rights, and NOT "priveledges" people, this is the area that is OFF LIMITS to government control! Steal a car, lose your right to vote....NOT ME!
NOBODY, no government body, department, agent, agency has authority to deny usurp and deprive ANY citizen ANY rights that are ABOVE ALL LAWS, and are HUMAN RIGHTS, and NOT under any government regulation/s.
Fuck with MY rights....DIE ASSHOLE!
I'll kill anybody bent on depriving me of MY rights! I also have the RIGHT to SAY what i want to as well!
I WILL say what i want and when i want, so all of those goody-two-shoes roaches can scurry off to hide from the nazis, while i prefer to stoke my 7MM Mag rifle, and various handguns and do battle with a corrupt and dangerous government!
First off; it is ILLEGAL for ANY law enforcement agency, organization or department to write any law/s, that is NOT their right or "obligation/s".
Every law ever written and passed through all levels of this(U.S.)nation can ONLY come from BONAFIDE lawyer-types, that passed the BAR exam and are LICENSED to practice law in the state/s they are licensed for, none other.
When police can write laws, i will get my guns out!
Nothing can possibly be worse than allowing police to make up laws..hell, they would have so many "provisions" inserted as to make even yelling in public a felony...GET REAL!
The "international" treaty that was propagated all
over the net has stirred up quite a hornet's nest
of rightful fears...too often we fail to research
these documents to the "Nth" degree and weed out all of the offending "allowances" so that the passage of this and other treaties carries no more authoritative power than my eraser carries, and that is the way it MUST be!
Every time a do-good law is signed, it's "intent" is well known, BUT, the LEGAL boundaries are never
publicly announced, so that law enforcement can have free-use and abuse to corrupt even the simplest of meanings so that even a one lined sentence is perverted to allow torture, drug "truth" serum usage and even murder, for "law" enforcement use ONLY...HA HA.
This and amny other "treaties" designed on the outside to "fight" crime really are meant to RESTRICT and DENY freedoms under the silky soft veil of righteousness and freedom...BULLSHIT!
Look at history's sad stories of opression(Hitler)
and see what good can possibly come from still MORE rights violations clauses for "fighting crime" can amount to.
We have all been bullshitted so much, now everything the government tells us is taken as the full truth, and they would "never" lie to us, would they?
Hell..TERRORISM came to Texas when the FEDS murdered and BURNED CHILDREN to ASHES for the
EXCUSE of the "law"..."SUSPECTED" means they can now KILL YOU without proof!
Every RAID that takes place oin this nation is a TERRORIST ACT, bent on HORROR and ABUSE to ENFORCE
the WILL of the government on YOU, without your RIGHT to FIGHT BACK!
As innocuous as this and similar treaties have shown...this will be used in conjunction with other laws, treaties and charges to further RESTRICT and DENY rights and freedoms all with the lamest excuse ever used...THE LAW!
When law is used to deny rights and freedoms and life...it is ILLEGAL and MUST be ELIMINATED!
By force if necessary!
Cops NEVER knock and ASK to enter your home...they DEMAND a reply, then BAM!, your door is busted down and 30 auto-weapon armed ASSASSINS run in and point their guns at your head...That people is TERRORISM, NOT "law" here....Polpot, Hitler, Stalin, Noriega, Hoover(FBI), Freeh(zFBI)thank goodness HE's gone...how many more DESPOTS do we need in this world to show us that we do NOT need to be forced by "law" that which we do not want nor need?
How many people must be murdered by police before we take their guns away?
How many ATF raids will it take before the ATF is ABOLISHED forever for TREASON against the people of the U.S.?
Law enforcement HAS become almost a force of its own, controlled by FEW, restricted by even less!
Can we fly down the road at 100 MPH plus to chase a car theif that just stole YOUR car??
Is there a NEED to chase a car theif at that speed?....NO, NO, NO!!
Instead of one car going fast, we have TWO, with one being driven by a pumped up cop bent on "getting this guy" no matter what it takes!
That cop has now become an adrenaline-pumped TERROR on the highway, judgement seriously impaired, reflexes diminished, vision tunneled....
NOT my idea of a good time to make a trip to the nearby store for icecream huh...i coule be MURDERED by thei cop going way too fast...SPLAT!
What would happen to the cop if he KILLED a person while exceeding the legal speed limit?
Does HE/SHE get PRISON for MURDER?
probably not, it would be whitewashed like all bops that murder(see Diallo trial)(See Waco)(See Ruby Ridge)...If cops PROTECT us, then WHY are they armed?
Firmen REALLY protect and serve,as do EMTs and medical response teams, and THEY aren't armed...so, who "protects" whom here I ask?
The "wild" west was NEVER wild...everybody carried a gun, and everybody STAYED WITHIN THEIR BOUNDS!
Nowadays, people are JAILED for carrying a gun to SAVE their lives, while cops go around and shoot anybody they want to...
We are UNSAFE more today then ever!
Cops control EVERYBODY...think not?
Try to tell them what to do next time they stop you...argue with them and see if his hand isn't reaching for that gun!
This "treaty" is yet another form of "teeth" to be used against ANYBODY "presumed", "Assumed" and then FOUND guilty...by whatever means available, even violation of privacy is OKAY since you have now become a "criminal", so you now have NO rights
to any privacy(perish the thought)!
Hitler spoke of doing "good" when he started the nazi party, he was going to bring Germany back to the forefront of strength, liberty and might; what he DID create was a DICTATORSHIP that TRAMPLED rights, IMPRISONED people, MURDERED, TORTURED and even medically BUTCHERED people for his "master race" theories.
Slowly and nost assuredly, ALL our rights are being wiped away, one pen stroke at a time.
Every new presidential election brings more restrictions, more laws, more police to the front lines...can we walk past the white house anymore folks???
Is Pennsyvania avenue open to the public like it WAS?
How many COPS do you see patrolling the whitehouse grounds today, as opposed to 10 years ago?
National guardsmen with armored vehicles too?
"Homeland Security" excuses...another form of
presidential dictatorship and ILLEGAL USURPATION of powers NOT delegated to the governement!
The WHITEHOUSE BELONGS TO THE NATION, NOT THE PRESIDENT RESIDING THERE FOLKS!!
How dare they deny AMERICANS the RIGHT to walk through the symbol of freedom?
YOU DID! The American people did it to yourselves!
YOU allowed the government to RESTRICT, DENY and DISALLOW your FREE AND LEGAL RIGHT to visit the ONE symbol that REPRESENTS FREEDOM, now closed up behind gates, armed guards, dogs and tanks(SICK)!!
If this is what FREEDOM means in the U.S., then FUCK AMERICA!!
To the FBI, NSA as well as the CIA...GO SCREW THY SELF!
Why do WE put up with "law enfarcement" that has become dictatorial and opressive in action/s?
Why worry about simple-minded guppies bent on creating hype, hysteria and extreme paranoia over
what will most certainly become the above-named agencies own "waterloo", by illegal actions taken by those agencies, all it will take is one deep
pocketed person or corporation to bring everything out into the open,where the cockroaches of terrorist law enfarcement live/s to send them scurrying back into the shadows of secrecy and deceipt awaiting their day in "court-fed".
Does anybody truly understand that one level-headed senator being spyed on by ANY agency
will bring a nation down upon those doing the spying, and DEMAND changes be made NOW and those that are responsible be sent to prison for XXXX years as well! How many congressional "hearings"
would be needed to jail the criminals...ONE, that's all, because the people being spied upon will DEMAND they live in prison for treasonous acts of "social terrorism" against the nation as a whole. Who gave ANYBODY the "right" to spy on anybody without a warrant or court order?
NOBODY! A virus posted by the FBI would be seen as
an act of sabotage willfully released upon the people without court order/s OR with a reason.
Acts such as this WILL get noticed the same or the next day for sure, either way, it will ALL be public in very short order, and those inflicting the damage will be held morally and financially responsible for every single occurrence of viral attacks....guaranteed!
Word of mouth, assisted by the media will FORCE
CHANGE in the halls of the nation's legal injustice system/s.
If it's ILLEGAL to knowingly spread a virus to computer systems, "they" too, WILL be held for computer crimes like Mr. Minick was, as well as Dmitry Sklyarov and many others!
Rights are RIGHTS. NOT priveledges that can be granted or denied!
Enumerated MEANS LIMITED!
LIMIT government to what is LEGAL, and no more!
ALWAYS QUESTION AUTHORITY, not doing so will get you killed!
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At least Intel HAS a working method to lower the heat generated by the CPU, by lowering the clock speed and therefore; limiting the heat build-up in the core. > AMD has a HUGE problem/s with heat in the Athlon/Duron CPUs that totally destroys the processor in seconds of cooler failure(NOT wise!). Diode use for "feedback" of voltage is an ancient technique used by R.F. engineers for R.F. power generation to limit(feedback) some of the output's converted A.C. signal back into the transistor's base, and rises according to the generated heat in transmit. AMD will never make a penny off of me until this issue is resolved...At least Intel DID make the P-III and P4 functional even when the fan/cooler/s failed; which is VERY important to saving the costly CPU and replacing ONLY the fan/cooler "gear" that failed. > Speed for sped "currently" the Athlon/Duron IS faster by far in almost EVERY test other than BANDWIDTH useage, which is where Intel's P4 is geared for to begin with. > How about a true test of bandwidth use in server apps, or real-time video compilations? "Raw" processor speed is okay for those that assume speed is everything, when the chipset that allows the processor to ramp up is held back by slow disk access and (UGH!) floppy access. > AMD makes one hell of a CPU and nobody can deny that and remain here on /. and survive.
>
I am (at one time) a true blue Intel fan, but if
AMD can't design a processor core that can survive
a fan/cooler failure without burning up totally in a second or two.....why buy it?
>
I think i can live with a now-slower P4 that WILL survive a coolant failure over a less costlier Athlon/Duron that CAN'T survive catastrophic coolant failure/s. Which is smarter to implement
and use here I ask?
>
Go visit Tom's hardware Guide site and review THEIR testing over the "great heat debate" and judge for yourself.
>
http://www6.tomshardware.com
>
While there, peruse the story on Tom's "power box"
running an Athlon CPU that's been overclocked, vapo-chilled and essentially, "cyborg'd" to run fast, and the gains made with the boosting does NOT get one much higher performance over an Intel P4 that is NOT overclocked, super cooled or any-
thing over "stock".
>
Why would i want to invest super funds just to beat the P4 in areas that are KNOWN to not be the P4's forte?
>
I can't wait for apps that ARE geared for the P4's architecture...THEN we'll see some truly amazing test results concerning the Athlon/Duron/P4 "fiasco" that soooo many are whining about right
here on /..
>
_______________FLAME SUPRESSION ON!_______________
Well golly there Miss Ruby; did my bad old .45 Colt Army revolver get up again and take a shot at you?
Hmmmm....cold steel, some brass, lead and fulminate of mercury now, somehow, HAS LIFE!
IT'S ALIVE exclaimed John ASScroft; IT'S ALIVE!
WHEN will people UNDERSTAND the FACT that INANIMATE OBJECTS CAN'AT DO A DAMNED THING, unless
it is CONTOLLED BY A HUMAN!!!!
A gun CAN'T kill, it IS the controlling person that aims, shoots and kills another, the gun can't tell steel from flesh!
Give up freedom and liberty for a bit of security, and you will get, nor deserve NEITHER!
*Oh I'll happily give up my right to bear my child so the big brave ATF agent can kill my daddy...*
Armed assault by the agents of governmental bodies are a REAL form of SOCIAL TERRORISM!
We the SHEEPLE of the UNFIT states of Amooica, and to the dictatorship to which we bow; one nation, in control of many; with despotism, and murderous control over all!
Bush bless us will you please; you're a "god" we all "love"; so, stand upon us...don't trrust us, to be on our own until you fingerprint us all...
FUCK THIS HOMELAND INSECURITY PARANOID DELUSIONS!!
GROW UP...FIGHT BACK!
WE DO HAVE THAT RIGHT!
USE OF FORCE UPON A FORCE BENT ON DICTATING WHAT YOU DO IS NOT THE LAW, BUT TERRORISM!
Hold it right there folks! We have a "few" questions YOU WILL ANSWER, or else! If the government of this nation decides that torture is legal, then i proclaim it to be OPEN HUNTING SEASON ON THE FEDS! Arm yourselves, the feds will be carrying black pouches of Phenobarbital and numerous hypos for injecting hundreds of peopl, JUST LIKE YOU! BEFORE this gets out of hand, and we all know it will; we MUST reduce the government to the size of a quibbling child, strong as a puppy, but NO TEETH! Rights are rights, and NOT "priveledges" people, this is the area that is OFF LIMITS to government control! Steal a car, lose your right to vote....NOT ME! NOBODY, no government body, department, agent, agency has authority to deny usurp and deprive ANY citizen ANY rights that are ABOVE ALL LAWS, and are HUMAN RIGHTS, and NOT under any government regulation/s. Fuck with MY rights....DIE ASSHOLE! I'll kill anybody bent on depriving me of MY rights! I also have the RIGHT to SAY what i want to as well! I WILL say what i want and when i want, so all of those goody-two-shoes roaches can scurry off to hide from the nazis, while i prefer to stoke my 7MM Mag rifle, and various handguns and do battle with a corrupt and dangerous government!
First off; it is ILLEGAL for ANY law enforcement agency, organization or department to write any law/s, that is NOT their right or "obligation/s". Every law ever written and passed through all levels of this(U.S.)nation can ONLY come from BONAFIDE lawyer-types, that passed the BAR exam and are LICENSED to practice law in the state/s they are licensed for, none other. When police can write laws, i will get my guns out! Nothing can possibly be worse than allowing police to make up laws..hell, they would have so many "provisions" inserted as to make even yelling in public a felony...GET REAL! The "international" treaty that was propagated all over the net has stirred up quite a hornet's nest of rightful fears...too often we fail to research these documents to the "Nth" degree and weed out all of the offending "allowances" so that the passage of this and other treaties carries no more authoritative power than my eraser carries, and that is the way it MUST be! Every time a do-good law is signed, it's "intent" is well known, BUT, the LEGAL boundaries are never publicly announced, so that law enforcement can have free-use and abuse to corrupt even the simplest of meanings so that even a one lined sentence is perverted to allow torture, drug "truth" serum usage and even murder, for "law" enforcement use ONLY...HA HA. This and amny other "treaties" designed on the outside to "fight" crime really are meant to RESTRICT and DENY freedoms under the silky soft veil of righteousness and freedom...BULLSHIT! Look at history's sad stories of opression(Hitler) and see what good can possibly come from still MORE rights violations clauses for "fighting crime" can amount to. We have all been bullshitted so much, now everything the government tells us is taken as the full truth, and they would "never" lie to us, would they? Hell..TERRORISM came to Texas when the FEDS murdered and BURNED CHILDREN to ASHES for the EXCUSE of the "law"..."SUSPECTED" means they can now KILL YOU without proof! Every RAID that takes place oin this nation is a TERRORIST ACT, bent on HORROR and ABUSE to ENFORCE the WILL of the government on YOU, without your RIGHT to FIGHT BACK! As innocuous as this and similar treaties have shown...this will be used in conjunction with other laws, treaties and charges to further RESTRICT and DENY rights and freedoms all with the lamest excuse ever used...THE LAW! When law is used to deny rights and freedoms and life...it is ILLEGAL and MUST be ELIMINATED! By force if necessary! Cops NEVER knock and ASK to enter your home...they DEMAND a reply, then BAM!, your door is busted down and 30 auto-weapon armed ASSASSINS run in and point their guns at your head...That people is TERRORISM, NOT "law" here....Polpot, Hitler, Stalin, Noriega, Hoover(FBI), Freeh(zFBI)thank goodness HE's gone...how many more DESPOTS do we need in this world to show us that we do NOT need to be forced by "law" that which we do not want nor need? How many people must be murdered by police before we take their guns away? How many ATF raids will it take before the ATF is ABOLISHED forever for TREASON against the people of the U.S.? Law enforcement HAS become almost a force of its own, controlled by FEW, restricted by even less! Can we fly down the road at 100 MPH plus to chase a car theif that just stole YOUR car?? Is there a NEED to chase a car theif at that speed?....NO, NO, NO!! Instead of one car going fast, we have TWO, with one being driven by a pumped up cop bent on "getting this guy" no matter what it takes! That cop has now become an adrenaline-pumped TERROR on the highway, judgement seriously impaired, reflexes diminished, vision tunneled.... NOT my idea of a good time to make a trip to the nearby store for icecream huh...i coule be MURDERED by thei cop going way too fast...SPLAT! What would happen to the cop if he KILLED a person while exceeding the legal speed limit? Does HE/SHE get PRISON for MURDER? probably not, it would be whitewashed like all bops that murder(see Diallo trial)(See Waco)(See Ruby Ridge)...If cops PROTECT us, then WHY are they armed? Firmen REALLY protect and serve,as do EMTs and medical response teams, and THEY aren't armed...so, who "protects" whom here I ask? The "wild" west was NEVER wild...everybody carried a gun, and everybody STAYED WITHIN THEIR BOUNDS! Nowadays, people are JAILED for carrying a gun to SAVE their lives, while cops go around and shoot anybody they want to... We are UNSAFE more today then ever! Cops control EVERYBODY...think not? Try to tell them what to do next time they stop you...argue with them and see if his hand isn't reaching for that gun! This "treaty" is yet another form of "teeth" to be used against ANYBODY "presumed", "Assumed" and then FOUND guilty...by whatever means available, even violation of privacy is OKAY since you have now become a "criminal", so you now have NO rights to any privacy(perish the thought)! Hitler spoke of doing "good" when he started the nazi party, he was going to bring Germany back to the forefront of strength, liberty and might; what he DID create was a DICTATORSHIP that TRAMPLED rights, IMPRISONED people, MURDERED, TORTURED and even medically BUTCHERED people for his "master race" theories. Slowly and nost assuredly, ALL our rights are being wiped away, one pen stroke at a time. Every new presidential election brings more restrictions, more laws, more police to the front lines...can we walk past the white house anymore folks??? Is Pennsyvania avenue open to the public like it WAS? How many COPS do you see patrolling the whitehouse grounds today, as opposed to 10 years ago? National guardsmen with armored vehicles too? "Homeland Security" excuses...another form of presidential dictatorship and ILLEGAL USURPATION of powers NOT delegated to the governement! The WHITEHOUSE BELONGS TO THE NATION, NOT THE PRESIDENT RESIDING THERE FOLKS!! How dare they deny AMERICANS the RIGHT to walk through the symbol of freedom? YOU DID! The American people did it to yourselves! YOU allowed the government to RESTRICT, DENY and DISALLOW your FREE AND LEGAL RIGHT to visit the ONE symbol that REPRESENTS FREEDOM, now closed up behind gates, armed guards, dogs and tanks(SICK)!! If this is what FREEDOM means in the U.S., then FUCK AMERICA!!
To the FBI, NSA as well as the CIA...GO SCREW THY SELF! Why do WE put up with "law enfarcement" that has become dictatorial and opressive in action/s? Why worry about simple-minded guppies bent on creating hype, hysteria and extreme paranoia over what will most certainly become the above-named agencies own "waterloo", by illegal actions taken by those agencies, all it will take is one deep pocketed person or corporation to bring everything out into the open,where the cockroaches of terrorist law enfarcement live/s to send them scurrying back into the shadows of secrecy and deceipt awaiting their day in "court-fed". Does anybody truly understand that one level-headed senator being spyed on by ANY agency will bring a nation down upon those doing the spying, and DEMAND changes be made NOW and those that are responsible be sent to prison for XXXX years as well! How many congressional "hearings" would be needed to jail the criminals...ONE, that's all, because the people being spied upon will DEMAND they live in prison for treasonous acts of "social terrorism" against the nation as a whole. Who gave ANYBODY the "right" to spy on anybody without a warrant or court order? NOBODY! A virus posted by the FBI would be seen as an act of sabotage willfully released upon the people without court order/s OR with a reason. Acts such as this WILL get noticed the same or the next day for sure, either way, it will ALL be public in very short order, and those inflicting the damage will be held morally and financially responsible for every single occurrence of viral attacks....guaranteed! Word of mouth, assisted by the media will FORCE CHANGE in the halls of the nation's legal injustice system/s. If it's ILLEGAL to knowingly spread a virus to computer systems, "they" too, WILL be held for computer crimes like Mr. Minick was, as well as Dmitry Sklyarov and many others! Rights are RIGHTS. NOT priveledges that can be granted or denied! Enumerated MEANS LIMITED! LIMIT government to what is LEGAL, and no more! ALWAYS QUESTION AUTHORITY, not doing so will get you killed!