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Taxation generally isn't robbery, its collecting on a debt.
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And the moment that the high income earners need social security, welfare, etc. then it will be a valid debt. Otherwise it's them paying for debts that others incur.
Robbery? Maybe not. It's still not something we should tolerate, IMHO.
I think he means from an intelligence point of view. If someone is willing to make the same stupid mistake (albeit minor) three times in a row when the result is long term imprisonment, it's quite likely that they are complete idiots and will only get worse later on.
I'm not sure I agree with it, but I don't think it's as simple as "a minor making three minor offenses".
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if Microsoft had posted an article explaining their security holes or in the same tone ("Yes it's stupid, but I wrote this code 3 years ago and had no clue", "it was never a problem!") then slashdotters worldwide would have been all over this complaining about the utter inability of Microsoft to do anything right
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...the difference being that Slashdot doesn't sell their code as if it were flawless - in fact, they don't even sell their software at all.
And I don't think Slashdot is indicative of most open source software projects. Slashdot started off a while back as a project for a guy who wanted to post articles on his web site. The Slashcode is just a side effect.
This is entirely different than, say, Linux or Apache (or Microsoft's stuff, even) where the main idea is the software itself.
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How is blocking napster punishing those who are partaking in legal activity? If you're not trading/downloading copyrighted works without permission, you SURELY can find another way to get your legal MP3s
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The point is, they shouldn't have to find some other way to trade legitimate MP3s.
Going back to my car example, if someone started cracking down on all car drivers because some of them were involved in hit-and-runs, should I say "oh well" and just ride a bike? I shouldn't have to - it's not my fault not everyone drives their car responsibly. I shouldn't be blamed.
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The legitimate uses (however small) are NOT specific to the Napster tool, they are simply facilitated by it. If you're getting legal MP3s, Napster is not your only outlet for such activities.
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"The legitimate uses (however small) are NOT specific to the email tool, they are simply facilitated by it. If you're getting legal correspondance, email is not your only outlet for such activities."
By your logic, we should feel lucky that we still have postal mail and carrier pigeons.
Napster is a useful tool for legitimate purposes. One of my favorite artists has no qualms with people getting his stuff off of Napster, as he claims to have received more exposure and as a result CD sales because of it. When I don't have my CDs around (which I bought, btw), I can grab copies of the songs or tell friends to check them out.
Could I do this without Napster? Sure, but not as easily. Now why exactly should I give up my legitimate use of this tool?
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Just as a handgun is a tool of crime, it also has legitimate uses. Are students allowed to carry guns on campus or keep them under their pillow at night? Hell no. Why should any other tool that is mostly used for criminal activity be allowed?
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Your gun argument just doesn't match up, and (no offense) just seems like an attempt to gain knee-jerk support from anyone who is pro gun-control. It's not even comparable.
First of all, there's a wide disparity between what can happen between both items. A single copy of Napster can at worst lose the recording industry a lot of sales (and recent sales stats contradict this). A single gun can potentially kill a large number of people.
Second, guns as a general rule are allowed on private property. A university can allow firearms if they want, assuming they are a private organization (there may be some rules if they receive state funding, but that's another story). As Napster is currently legal - just as a number of guns are currently legal - nobody has a right to force private entities to stop allowing said items on campus.
I'm not saying universities don't have a right to ban Napster. It's their network, and it could impede on the primary function of that network. But until the Napster software is illegal (in which case, we should get rid of email, FTP, and HTTP since they can be used in similar ways) they have every right to keep it up.
If Napster were anything else - a car, a baseball bat, a paper manufacturer - they would be going after the actual perpetrator of the crime. It's not my fault that it's not economically feasible to sue everyone who pirates Metallica songs from Napster.
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I don't deny that this sort of thing happens. I am curious, though, how you are so sure that's why she got the job.
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Trust me, it was pretty obvious. It wasn't because of the way in which her skills fit the job at hand (not that she was without skills, but you'd expect a minimal amount of knowledge - imagine a Windows tech not knowing where to find the Start Menu without being told... It was that sort of thing).
I hesitate to go into too much detail because she is a nice enough person, but the fact is that she had absolutely no skills to justify the position she was given. It's not her fault, I suppose.
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What about compensating for an unnatural disadvantage?
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Depends on what you mean by compensation. If an employer is breaking current laws on discrimination, that's one thing. But it's quite another to promote people. For one, people who may never have had the unnatural disadvantage are rewarded, while people who were not responsible for those kinds of disadvantages are punished. That's like punishing someone for a crime they did not commit, so that you feel better for not catching the criminal.
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And while we're at it, am I to assume that you favor 100% taxation of all inheritence?
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No. I believe that whenever possible, people should be left alone and allowed to maintain responsibility for their own lives. If I work my entire life and save my money intelligently, I should be able to decide where to put my money. If it's to fund the education/lifestyle of my kid, that's a good thing. I shouldn't be penalized. I would hope in turn that they would do that for their own kid.
I'm just annoyed at the idea that it's society's responsibility to equalize people. In this country you have freedom to make a better life for yourself, but you don't have any sort of guarantee that it will be given to you. If someone goes out of their way to harm someone we should step in, but otherwise refrain from promoting or demoting people based on anything other than their merit.
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As a matter of fact, I am. Every stat I have ever seen indicates that within each of the black, white, and latino demographics, drug users/sellers make up the same percentage.
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If this is true, then it should be stopped. But the answer is to punish ONLY the bad cops/lawyers responsible and say "Start punishing people based on their crimes", not say "You need to start arresting more white people so it doesn't look so bad". When you do that, how is it morally any different than what they're (supposedly) already doing? What kind of message does that send?
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I just have a hard time with the idea that white males are at a disadvantage in the US.
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Depends on how you look at it. Are we as a group living in poverty? No. But are we as a group being unfairly blamed for the actions of very few and being told that merit is second only to political correctness? Seems that way.
Racism is racism. It sucks either way. It's even worse when one type is villified, while another type is actively encouraged.
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Of course, none of this has anything to do with Universities banning Napster....
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have you ever been denied a position, promotion, or raise for no reason other than because you are a white male?
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Nope. Although I have seen someone hired in for a higher position who clearly did not have the skills necessary to do the job. I know - I had to train her.
Despite the fact that I liked her as a person, the main reason she got her job was because she was a hispanic female.
Racism is racism - giving someone an unnatural advantage is just as bad as pushing someone else down.
I understand that white males are underrepresented in the penal system, but are you so sure that's just because we're also underrepresented in the drug using/selling and violent crime communities?
Of course, that's not a politically correct thing to say, but so be it.
You make one fatal flaw - you assume we're all big believers in the GPL.
Remember, not all of Slashdot follows a single 'party line'. Some of us have diverging opinions. I personally have some issues with the GPL.
And regardless of one's beliefs in the GPL, it's one thing not to sanction illegal activity, it's quite another to punish legal activity in trying to root out illegal activity.
To put it another way, while I'm very much against running over pedestrians with my car (and believe those who run over people on purpose should be arrested), I'm not going to blame Mitsubishi if someone uses their product to run me over. Blame the copyright infringer, not Napster or the people actually using the service for legal purposes (yes, there are legal purposes).
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So... this "story" consists of... Kuro5hin added 10 lines of text to their website... Great story!
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Maybe not, but it's not your place to judge. If you don't like it, you can feel free to leave. That doesn't mean you should posting offtopic messages.
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Aaaah, my mistake - you must be American!
Obviously, with your retarded attention span, you must be riveted with the action gong on here!
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Ah, yes. And you say they bred tact out of Americans, right? The nationalism you're exhibiting reaks with the stench of 2 month old eggs.
Lucky for we 'retarded' Americans, most British folk are quite pleasant. It would appear you are the exception, not the rule. Unfortunately, all it takes is one big mouth to create an unfair stereotype about the British.
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Why does OS X require these vast resources?
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Classic. Basically, you're booting two seperate operating systems at once. If you don't use Classic, your resource usage will be a lot lower.
At least, that's how it worked in DP4.
Apple probably expects everyone to be using Classic for a while, so they're inflating the requirements somewhat. I didn't use Classic much, and 96 MB ram in this PowerBook worked fine.
I've ordered a copy of the beta, and will be providing plenty of feedback when it arrives.
I've also spent lots of quality time with DP3 and DP4, but at this point I'm going to be a bit more focused on giving detailed feedback. It's now or never, after all.:>
"Why back in my day, we had web pages with gray backgrounds and no graphics, with 10,000 word essays about esoteric computer science topics - and we LIKED IT!
In fact, we didn't even use bookmarks. We memorized IP addresses - no sissy domain names for us - and typed them in manually. Why, back in my day we didn't even have web pages, we had web paragraphs, because our computers didn't have enough memory. And we LIKED IT!"
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I'm all for responsible use of HTML and sticking close to standards. But there is value in an aesthetically pleasing site as well. And the sad fact is, recent versions of IE (for the Mac at least) are more standards compliant than anything Netscape is shipping to date.
And while I can already hear the chants of 'Mozilla! Mozilla! Mozilla!', let me remind you that Mozilla defies some equally important standards - intra-platform user interface consistancy.
Barring that, it's still not released. And it's very, very late.
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Sure. But the whole point was to give apple users a different option of UI on the hardware they liked.
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I know, and I'm cool with that. As mentioned, I use LinuxPPC as well. But what I'm saying is that crowing about having SMP would be a lot more impressive if they had the other stuff Apple has been working on as well.
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Why is tackeling SMP stupid?
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I think I must have misrepresented myself. Tackling SMP is not stupid. Making a big deal over the fact that LinuxPPC has it first is what I think is kind of stupid. LinuxPPC is lacking some very important things as well - and Apple isn't crowing at them about it.
Plus, I imagine OSX's SMP implementation has had more thorough testing just within Apple itself than LinuxPPC's has. They can call it 'released' as much as they want, but so far I haven't seen a lot of people relying on it yet.
Maybe my problem is more with Slashdot thinking this was an actual story.
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But why complain at all? You want to talk about 'oddities?' When was the last time you used Win2K?
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If you want to set that as your optimal user interface benchmark, then Apple has nothing to worry about.:>
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I'm sure that these people are smart and resourceful enough to find and work out 'oddities.'
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My main concern may not be 'oddities' in the traditional sense - this has little to do with bugs. I'm confident that Apple will come up with lots of bug fixes. It's the intentional stuff that gets me. Dropping the Apple menu and replacing it with the dock is not a 'bug' according to Apple, it's a feature. Despite the fact that multiple folders in it look identical and you have to wave your mouse around like a ouija board just to get file names. That's an example of the main fundamental flaw in the OSX design goals: look cool first, usability second.
And no, I have no problems with the dock concept. I have problems with that dock. For instance, the BeOS implementation of the same concept is actually quite nice from a usability perspective.
It just seems sadly ironic that Apple risks going from the most usable consumer OS with the worst core foundation to the consumer OS with the best core foundation and the worst usability.
I hope they make some major changes between now and final release - but we've already hit beta and only minor interface fixes have been made. I try to have faith, but this is the same company that sold a puck mouse and chiclit keyboard for two years and is waiting until OSX to fix some major interface fuckups with QT4 and Sherlock...
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Ooo! Ooo! First nonsensical Mac Zealot Interface Post!
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You make a lot of assumptions based on lack of information. You have no clue about my opinions and experiences of Apple's operating systems or that of others.
Now, if the definition of a 'Mac Zealot' is a person who uses a Mac and doesn't agree with all of your opinions, then I guess I fit the bill. Otherwise, you're pretty far off the mark.
To put it short, my only bitch with OSX is in the interface. A zealot would just take what Apple gives them and not question it - I have... erm... some issues with what they are doing (and most of it revolves around the dock).
Apple beats LinuxPPC to a halfway usable user interface by around 16-17 years.
*yawn*
I'm impressed by LinuxPPC. I order each release they put out, and it's not bad given their marketshare. But bragging about SMP support when Apple has a lot more fish to fry is kind of stupid.
Other people have beaten Apple to the punch in other stuff. It's not really that big of a deal. I'm more concerned at this point that Apple isn't going to fix some of the... erm... interface oddities in the OSX release.
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Netzero, in truth, uses a Java interface which forces the user to...
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There is where your complaint falls flat. They're not forcing anyone to do anything. It's basically whole point. If a user wants a quality ISP, they'll go elsewhere. If they're cheap, they'll go through these guys.
It's not like anyone is forced to give money to them. If it's too annoying, you just stop using it.
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Faulty wiring in a washing machine, don't buy it or you'll zap yourself. Email from a known spammer? Filter it.
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Right. But if you buy a few duds from a given manufacturer, you'll quite often never buy from that manufacturer again. If I get a lot of spam from a certain provider, it's my right to never receive their email again.
Filters are a half-assed solution to spam anyhow. My bandwidth and CPU time is still being eaten away. When you report spam (or report something to MAPS), there's nothing stopping a given ISP from still doing what they want. MAPS just provides a tool that you can choose to use or not use - basically using the experience of others as an easy way to sample to 'product' of a whole bunch of ISPs.
Slashdot Mirror
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Taxation generally isn't robbery, its collecting on a debt.
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And the moment that the high income earners need social security, welfare, etc. then it will be a valid debt. Otherwise it's them paying for debts that others incur.
Robbery? Maybe not. It's still not something we should tolerate, IMHO.
- Jeff A. Campbell
- VelociNews (http://www.velocinews.com)
I think that's a euphemism for giving back extra money that was mistakenly taken from people to begin with.
Rich people pay, percentage wise, a proportionately high amount in taxes. Therefore, they probably have a lot more coming back to them.
- Jeff A. Campbell
- VelociNews (http://www.velocinews.com)
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The number of people working for the federal government has gone DOWN under Clinton/Gore and went UP under Reagan/Bush and Bush/Quayle
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True, but the total spending (which is the important part) went the other way around.
- Jeff A. Campbell
- VelociNews (http://www.velocinews.com)
My guess is that they started contributing to the GOP _after_ the democrats started the anti-trust stuff.
Not to defend Microsoft, democrats, or Janet Reno, but...
- Jeff A. Campbell
- VelociNews (http://www.velocinews.com)
I think he means from an intelligence point of view. If someone is willing to make the same stupid mistake (albeit minor) three times in a row when the result is long term imprisonment, it's quite likely that they are complete idiots and will only get worse later on.
I'm not sure I agree with it, but I don't think it's as simple as "a minor making three minor offenses".
- Jeff A. Campbell
- VelociNews (http://www.velocinews.com)
*sigh*
Um, actually, the Libertarian party platform opens up US borders far more than they already are - basically letting anyone in.
- Jeff A. Campbell
- VelociNews (http://www.velocinews.com)
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if Microsoft had posted an article explaining their security holes or in the same tone ("Yes it's stupid, but I wrote this code 3 years ago and had no clue", "it was never a problem!") then slashdotters worldwide would have been all over this complaining about the utter inability of Microsoft to do anything right
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...the difference being that Slashdot doesn't sell their code as if it were flawless - in fact, they don't even sell their software at all.
And I don't think Slashdot is indicative of most open source software projects. Slashdot started off a while back as a project for a guy who wanted to post articles on his web site. The Slashcode is just a side effect.
This is entirely different than, say, Linux or Apache (or Microsoft's stuff, even) where the main idea is the software itself.
- Jeff A. Campbell
- VelociNews (http://www.velocinews.com)
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How is blocking napster punishing those who are partaking in legal activity? If you're not trading/downloading copyrighted works without permission, you SURELY can find another way to get your legal MP3s
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The point is, they shouldn't have to find some other way to trade legitimate MP3s.
Going back to my car example, if someone started cracking down on all car drivers because some of them were involved in hit-and-runs, should I say "oh well" and just ride a bike? I shouldn't have to - it's not my fault not everyone drives their car responsibly. I shouldn't be blamed.
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The legitimate uses (however small) are NOT specific to the Napster tool, they are simply facilitated by it. If you're getting legal MP3s, Napster is not your only outlet for such activities.
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"The legitimate uses (however small) are NOT specific to the email tool, they are simply facilitated by it. If you're getting legal correspondance, email is not your only outlet for such activities."
By your logic, we should feel lucky that we still have postal mail and carrier pigeons.
Napster is a useful tool for legitimate purposes. One of my favorite artists has no qualms with people getting his stuff off of Napster, as he claims to have received more exposure and as a result CD sales because of it. When I don't have my CDs around (which I bought, btw), I can grab copies of the songs or tell friends to check them out.
Could I do this without Napster? Sure, but not as easily. Now why exactly should I give up my legitimate use of this tool?
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Just as a handgun is a tool of crime, it also has legitimate uses. Are students allowed to carry guns on campus or keep them under their pillow at night? Hell no. Why should any other tool that is mostly used for criminal activity be allowed?
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Your gun argument just doesn't match up, and (no offense) just seems like an attempt to gain knee-jerk support from anyone who is pro gun-control. It's not even comparable.
First of all, there's a wide disparity between what can happen between both items. A single copy of Napster can at worst lose the recording industry a lot of sales (and recent sales stats contradict this). A single gun can potentially kill a large number of people.
Second, guns as a general rule are allowed on private property. A university can allow firearms if they want, assuming they are a private organization (there may be some rules if they receive state funding, but that's another story). As Napster is currently legal - just as a number of guns are currently legal - nobody has a right to force private entities to stop allowing said items on campus.
I'm not saying universities don't have a right to ban Napster. It's their network, and it could impede on the primary function of that network. But until the Napster software is illegal (in which case, we should get rid of email, FTP, and HTTP since they can be used in similar ways) they have every right to keep it up.
If Napster were anything else - a car, a baseball bat, a paper manufacturer - they would be going after the actual perpetrator of the crime. It's not my fault that it's not economically feasible to sue everyone who pirates Metallica songs from Napster.
- Jeff A. Campbell
- VelociNews (http://www.velocinews.com)
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... It was that sort of thing).
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I don't deny that this sort of thing happens. I am curious, though, how you are so sure that's why she got the job.
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Trust me, it was pretty obvious. It wasn't because of the way in which her skills fit the job at hand (not that she was without skills, but you'd expect a minimal amount of knowledge - imagine a Windows tech not knowing where to find the Start Menu without being told
I hesitate to go into too much detail because she is a nice enough person, but the fact is that she had absolutely no skills to justify the position she was given. It's not her fault, I suppose.
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What about compensating for an unnatural disadvantage?
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Depends on what you mean by compensation. If an employer is breaking current laws on discrimination, that's one thing. But it's quite another to promote people. For one, people who may never have had the unnatural disadvantage are rewarded, while people who were not responsible for those kinds of disadvantages are punished. That's like punishing someone for a crime they did not commit, so that you feel better for not catching the criminal.
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And while we're at it, am I to assume that you favor 100% taxation of all inheritence?
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No. I believe that whenever possible, people should be left alone and allowed to maintain responsibility for their own lives. If I work my entire life and save my money intelligently, I should be able to decide where to put my money. If it's to fund the education/lifestyle of my kid, that's a good thing. I shouldn't be penalized. I would hope in turn that they would do that for their own kid.
I'm just annoyed at the idea that it's society's responsibility to equalize people. In this country you have freedom to make a better life for yourself, but you don't have any sort of guarantee that it will be given to you. If someone goes out of their way to harm someone we should step in, but otherwise refrain from promoting or demoting people based on anything other than their merit.
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As a matter of fact, I am. Every stat I have ever seen indicates that within each of the black, white, and latino demographics, drug users/sellers make up the same percentage.
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If this is true, then it should be stopped. But the answer is to punish ONLY the bad cops/lawyers responsible and say "Start punishing people based on their crimes", not say "You need to start arresting more white people so it doesn't look so bad". When you do that, how is it morally any different than what they're (supposedly) already doing? What kind of message does that send?
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I just have a hard time with the idea that white males are at a disadvantage in the US.
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Depends on how you look at it. Are we as a group living in poverty? No. But are we as a group being unfairly blamed for the actions of very few and being told that merit is second only to political correctness? Seems that way.
Racism is racism. It sucks either way. It's even worse when one type is villified, while another type is actively encouraged.
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Of course, none of this has anything to do with Universities banning Napster....
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Nope, I guess it doesn't.
- Jeff A. Campbell
- VelociNews (http://www.velocinews.com)
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have you ever been denied a position, promotion, or raise for no reason other than because you are a white male?
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Nope. Although I have seen someone hired in for a higher position who clearly did not have the skills necessary to do the job. I know - I had to train her.
Despite the fact that I liked her as a person, the main reason she got her job was because she was a hispanic female.
Racism is racism - giving someone an unnatural advantage is just as bad as pushing someone else down.
I understand that white males are underrepresented in the penal system, but are you so sure that's just because we're also underrepresented in the drug using/selling and violent crime communities?
Of course, that's not a politically correct thing to say, but so be it.
- Jeff A. Campbell
- VelociNews (http://www.velocinews.com)
You make one fatal flaw - you assume we're all big believers in the GPL.
Remember, not all of Slashdot follows a single 'party line'. Some of us have diverging opinions. I personally have some issues with the GPL.
And regardless of one's beliefs in the GPL, it's one thing not to sanction illegal activity, it's quite another to punish legal activity in trying to root out illegal activity.
To put it another way, while I'm very much against running over pedestrians with my car (and believe those who run over people on purpose should be arrested), I'm not going to blame Mitsubishi if someone uses their product to run me over. Blame the copyright infringer, not Napster or the people actually using the service for legal purposes (yes, there are legal purposes).
- Jeff A. Campbell
- VelociNews (http://www.velocinews.com)
Some time in childhood I bet you wet your bed or something. Should we still judge you for that?
Apple has enough sins now. Don't blame the current administration for the actions of others.
- Jeff A. Campbell
- VelociNews (http://www.velocinews.com)
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So... this "story" consists of... Kuro5hin added 10 lines of text to their website... Great story!
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Maybe not, but it's not your place to judge. If you don't like it, you can feel free to leave. That doesn't mean you should posting offtopic messages.
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Aaaah, my mistake - you must be American!
Obviously, with your retarded attention span, you must be riveted with the action gong on here!
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Ah, yes. And you say they bred tact out of Americans, right? The nationalism you're exhibiting reaks with the stench of 2 month old eggs.
Lucky for we 'retarded' Americans, most British folk are quite pleasant. It would appear you are the exception, not the rule. Unfortunately, all it takes is one big mouth to create an unfair stereotype about the British.
- Jeff A. Campbell
- VelociNews (http://www.velocinews.com)
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Why does OS X require these vast resources?
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Classic. Basically, you're booting two seperate operating systems at once. If you don't use Classic, your resource usage will be a lot lower.
At least, that's how it worked in DP4.
Apple probably expects everyone to be using Classic for a while, so they're inflating the requirements somewhat. I didn't use Classic much, and 96 MB ram in this PowerBook worked fine.
- Jeff A. Campbell
- VelociNews (http://www.velocinews.com)
I've ordered a copy of the beta, and will be providing plenty of feedback when it arrives.
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I've also spent lots of quality time with DP3 and DP4, but at this point I'm going to be a bit more focused on giving detailed feedback. It's now or never, after all.
- Jeff A. Campbell
- VelociNews (http://www.velocinews.com)
I believe the reason the amphitheater may have been full is because they had to switch due to the - erm - water damage.
Is that true?
- Jeff A. Campbell
- VelociNews (http://www.velocinews.com)
"Why back in my day, we had web pages with gray backgrounds and no graphics, with 10,000 word essays about esoteric computer science topics - and we LIKED IT!
In fact, we didn't even use bookmarks. We memorized IP addresses - no sissy domain names for us - and typed them in manually. Why, back in my day we didn't even have web pages, we had web paragraphs, because our computers didn't have enough memory. And we LIKED IT!"
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I'm all for responsible use of HTML and sticking close to standards. But there is value in an aesthetically pleasing site as well. And the sad fact is, recent versions of IE (for the Mac at least) are more standards compliant than anything Netscape is shipping to date.
And while I can already hear the chants of 'Mozilla! Mozilla! Mozilla!', let me remind you that Mozilla defies some equally important standards - intra-platform user interface consistancy.
Barring that, it's still not released. And it's very, very late.
- Jeff A. Campbell
- VelociNews (http://www.velocinews.com)
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Sure. But the whole point was to give apple users a different option of UI on the hardware they liked.
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I know, and I'm cool with that. As mentioned, I use LinuxPPC as well. But what I'm saying is that crowing about having SMP would be a lot more impressive if they had the other stuff Apple has been working on as well.
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Why is tackeling SMP stupid?
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I think I must have misrepresented myself. Tackling SMP is not stupid. Making a big deal over the fact that LinuxPPC has it first is what I think is kind of stupid. LinuxPPC is lacking some very important things as well - and Apple isn't crowing at them about it.
Plus, I imagine OSX's SMP implementation has had more thorough testing just within Apple itself than LinuxPPC's has. They can call it 'released' as much as they want, but so far I haven't seen a lot of people relying on it yet.
Maybe my problem is more with Slashdot thinking this was an actual story.
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But why complain at all? You want to talk about 'oddities?' When was the last time you used Win2K?
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If you want to set that as your optimal user interface benchmark, then Apple has nothing to worry about.
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I'm sure that these people are smart and resourceful enough to find and work out 'oddities.'
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My main concern may not be 'oddities' in the traditional sense - this has little to do with bugs. I'm confident that Apple will come up with lots of bug fixes. It's the intentional stuff that gets me. Dropping the Apple menu and replacing it with the dock is not a 'bug' according to Apple, it's a feature. Despite the fact that multiple folders in it look identical and you have to wave your mouse around like a ouija board just to get file names. That's an example of the main fundamental flaw in the OSX design goals: look cool first, usability second.
And no, I have no problems with the dock concept. I have problems with that dock. For instance, the BeOS implementation of the same concept is actually quite nice from a usability perspective.
It just seems sadly ironic that Apple risks going from the most usable consumer OS with the worst core foundation to the consumer OS with the best core foundation and the worst usability.
I hope they make some major changes between now and final release - but we've already hit beta and only minor interface fixes have been made. I try to have faith, but this is the same company that sold a puck mouse and chiclit keyboard for two years and is waiting until OSX to fix some major interface fuckups with QT4 and Sherlock...
- Jeff A. Campbell
- VelociNews (http://www.velocinews.com)
Yep.
(telnet is off by default though)
- Jeff A. Campbell
- VelociNews (http://www.velocinews.com)
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... erm ... some issues with what they are doing (and most of it revolves around the dock).
Ooo! Ooo! First nonsensical Mac Zealot Interface Post!
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You make a lot of assumptions based on lack of information. You have no clue about my opinions and experiences of Apple's operating systems or that of others.
Now, if the definition of a 'Mac Zealot' is a person who uses a Mac and doesn't agree with all of your opinions, then I guess I fit the bill. Otherwise, you're pretty far off the mark.
To put it short, my only bitch with OSX is in the interface. A zealot would just take what Apple gives them and not question it - I have
Zealot indeed.
- Jeff A. Campbell
- VelociNews (http://www.velocinews.com)
Yup. And it will stay, as an optional download (they don't want developers asking users to drop to a CLI to install stuff, for example).
:>
And yeah, it's pretty much as you'd expect. I think tcsh is by default, or maybe bash. Not sure.
You'll be happy though.
- Jeff A. Campbell
- VelociNews (http://www.velocinews.com)
Apple beats LinuxPPC to a halfway usable user interface by around 16-17 years.
... erm ... interface oddities in the OSX release.
*yawn*
I'm impressed by LinuxPPC. I order each release they put out, and it's not bad given their marketshare. But bragging about SMP support when Apple has a lot more fish to fry is kind of stupid.
Other people have beaten Apple to the punch in other stuff. It's not really that big of a deal. I'm more concerned at this point that Apple isn't going to fix some of the
- Jeff A. Campbell
- VelociNews (http://www.velocinews.com)
Don't confuse this kind of censorship with the kind 'we' (that ever nebulous term - are we a collective now or something?) are fighting against.
Censoring one's self can be considered basic tact, or sticking to editorial guidelines. That's fine.
A third party stepping in to censor you without your consent is another matter entirely.
The first is fine. The latter is very much not fine.
- Jeff A. Campbell
- VelociNews (http://www.velocinews.com)
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Netzero, in truth, uses a Java interface which forces the user to...
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There is where your complaint falls flat. They're not forcing anyone to do anything. It's basically whole point. If a user wants a quality ISP, they'll go elsewhere. If they're cheap, they'll go through these guys.
It's not like anyone is forced to give money to them. If it's too annoying, you just stop using it.
- Jeff A. Campbell
- VelociNews (http://www.velocinews.com)
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Faulty wiring in a washing machine, don't buy it or you'll zap yourself. Email from a known spammer? Filter it.
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Right. But if you buy a few duds from a given manufacturer, you'll quite often never buy from that manufacturer again. If I get a lot of spam from a certain provider, it's my right to never receive their email again.
Filters are a half-assed solution to spam anyhow. My bandwidth and CPU time is still being eaten away. When you report spam (or report something to MAPS), there's nothing stopping a given ISP from still doing what they want. MAPS just provides a tool that you can choose to use or not use - basically using the experience of others as an easy way to sample to 'product' of a whole bunch of ISPs.
- Jeff A. Campbell
- VelociNews (http://www.velocinews.com)