Most users will want an OS, assuming your Dell comes with win/somethinerother how does that compare to OSX?
Those of us who have used a "free" Lexmark printer know it for the cost it represents so I guess no further comments needed on that clearly listed disadvantage...
What's a firewire card for your little P4 system run these days? Firewire is a critical interface for a lot of users and being more widely used as time goes on.
As a former corporate support person I'd also want the DOA rate on Dells, with apple it's near zero (and I know that Dell ain't even close). This too is a -cost- associated with computer infrastructure. All IMO BK425
Um, 'kay so I know you're really trying to be funny and all but keep in mind that "a real company..." doesn't make any sense in terms of hardware -manufacture-. Nobody, not even apples main competitor M$ has hardware (see the XBox article in this months wired) made by -a- company, they usually farm out to several "manufacturing services" companies to do it. So, while it was really funny that you were teasing Apple, they license the manufacture of the hardware manufacturing just like Dell, Gateway and now M$. BK425
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Regarding only the first point: Yes; in bicycle lanes. I currently live in a large city across Lake Washington from Seattle. My girlfreind lives in the mountains, 40 minutes drive east from here, and commutes to a large software manufacturer next door to my home town.
My suburban house is on roads posted 25mph, 17mph is very doable on those roads without holding anyone up and most of the higher speed surface streets are lined with bike lanes and sidewalks (or routes are available which are). I'm to lazy for biking in Washington rain every single day, but an electric ride might do it.
My girlfriend drives the 40 minutes in (and I hope to be driving with her soon) because the Bus systems park and ride facilities in my town are typically full by 9am. She -could- bike from a P&R lot... and get around the lack of Parking, but it rains here (all of the time) and even gore tex is not (in our opinions) completely compatible with physical work. For these reasons, an electric 8-17mph ride on bike lanes and on the slower surface streets from the P&R lot looks really good. And they enjoy better ease of parking than bikes.
The price is prohibitive for now, but for urbanites the benefits would be even more compelling then they are for me. It won't change my world, but it would be a cool addition to my personal transportation toy box (at a lower price). All IMO BK425
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"The point? We must choose where we are going to pollute. The "market" is a vehicle for death - plain and simple, citizens with conscience (greens like myself) can not be burdened to live in mud huts because their neighbours are not willing to stop consuming" snip
The MARKET is an instrument of CHOICE nothing more and nothing less. If you truly believe your fellow humans can not be made to understand what is so obvious to you, then wether they drive you to extinction in a market economy which recognizes the individuals right to make their own choices or they drive you to extinction in a so called "controlled" economy which deludes some into believing that individuals will forsake their intelectual and spiritual soveriegnty for some amorphous collective goal (-controlled- of course by an elite few) then you have already given up. BK425
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I'm not impressed with your not being impressed with his argument ; ) I think that the risk of death in a car v object drunk driving accident is so obviously lower then in a motorcylce v object drunk driving accident (motorcycles do not remain upright in control of a drunk) that the first poster just assumed you'd see it. That you equate the two types of accidents makes it clear that perhaps it wasnt obvious for everyone... BK425 (who rides with a 12 hour rule, just like AT pilots)
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I agree that car drivers have much of the risk in their own control as do motorcylcists. Cars generally trade active safety for passive safety, that is why (at a given neighborhood of cost) good motorcyclists value the greater control their vehicles offer. BK425
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Re: full face helmets- In the Motorcycle Safety Foundation course that I took, they quoted from the Harm (a scientists name) study that 53% of first contacts in fatal accidents were the chin, while waving one of those bitchin looking novelty "helmets" (the bucket style things all the Hog riders like) around. I purchased a full face the next week with a very nice chin gaurd, cushy bottom air seal and add on intercom.
Risk, risk management and hence safety is entirely a matter of knowledge and attitude (as they say in the MSF course). I know MANY (otherwise bright) car drivers with no knowledge of motorcycles and very little knowledge of their cars who are more then happy to dispense information to me about the dangers of motorcycling. I try to minimize the "nod time" I have to give them and urge them to develop perspective through gaining some knowledge (wish it worked more often). BK425
I don't agree that we aren't first in implementing new cell technologies, we are not the first in stacking people into tighter and tighter piles. A trend which totally drives the ceonomics behind this infrastructure and hence it's speed of deployment.
However, I am also blown away by how many people here fail to see any benefit in "not being first" I agree that (while it doesn't in this case IMO) it certainly CAN have advantages. WE innovated broadcast television and we have long suffered the poorest quality image because of that powerful (in terms of number of users it dwarfs most other nations) standard. Innovation is good, but it doesn't always lead to having the most of the coolest toys IMO. bk425
"Only exists in Tokyo" is the clue stick here. You're little handset isn't the difficult technology of nationwide communications infrastructure, distance is. When you stack people up 20 stories atop one another (looks like a good place to live? hmmm) it reduces the technical complexity of installing and maintaining Telecom infrastructure significantly. (This is like saying the bullet train is somewhat more complicated then a kids wind up choo choo.)
I'm no big fan of the FCC, but this guys evaluation of these two radically different systems/circumstances is, well, not rigorous. BK425
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Most users will want an OS, assuming your Dell comes with win/somethinerother how does that compare to OSX? Those of us who have used a "free" Lexmark printer know it for the cost it represents so I guess no further comments needed on that clearly listed disadvantage... What's a firewire card for your little P4 system run these days? Firewire is a critical interface for a lot of users and being more widely used as time goes on. As a former corporate support person I'd also want the DOA rate on Dells, with apple it's near zero (and I know that Dell ain't even close). This too is a -cost- associated with computer infrastructure. All IMO BK425
Um, 'kay so I know you're really trying to be funny and all but keep in mind that "a real company..." doesn't make any sense in terms of hardware -manufacture-. Nobody, not even apples main competitor M$ has hardware (see the XBox article in this months wired) made by -a- company, they usually farm out to several "manufacturing services" companies to do it. So, while it was really funny that you were teasing Apple, they license the manufacture of the hardware manufacturing just like Dell, Gateway and now M$. BK425
Regarding only the first point: Yes; in bicycle lanes. I currently live in a large city across Lake Washington from Seattle. My girlfreind lives in the mountains, 40 minutes drive east from here, and commutes to a large software manufacturer next door to my home town. My suburban house is on roads posted 25mph, 17mph is very doable on those roads without holding anyone up and most of the higher speed surface streets are lined with bike lanes and sidewalks (or routes are available which are). I'm to lazy for biking in Washington rain every single day, but an electric ride might do it. My girlfriend drives the 40 minutes in (and I hope to be driving with her soon) because the Bus systems park and ride facilities in my town are typically full by 9am. She -could- bike from a P&R lot... and get around the lack of Parking, but it rains here (all of the time) and even gore tex is not (in our opinions) completely compatible with physical work. For these reasons, an electric 8-17mph ride on bike lanes and on the slower surface streets from the P&R lot looks really good. And they enjoy better ease of parking than bikes. The price is prohibitive for now, but for urbanites the benefits would be even more compelling then they are for me. It won't change my world, but it would be a cool addition to my personal transportation toy box (at a lower price). All IMO BK425
"The point? We must choose where we are going to pollute. The "market" is a vehicle for death - plain and simple, citizens with conscience (greens like myself) can not be burdened to live in mud huts because their neighbours are not willing to stop consuming" snip The MARKET is an instrument of CHOICE nothing more and nothing less. If you truly believe your fellow humans can not be made to understand what is so obvious to you, then wether they drive you to extinction in a market economy which recognizes the individuals right to make their own choices or they drive you to extinction in a so called "controlled" economy which deludes some into believing that individuals will forsake their intelectual and spiritual soveriegnty for some amorphous collective goal (-controlled- of course by an elite few) then you have already given up. BK425
I'm not impressed with your not being impressed with his argument ; ) I think that the risk of death in a car v object drunk driving accident is so obviously lower then in a motorcylce v object drunk driving accident (motorcycles do not remain upright in control of a drunk) that the first poster just assumed you'd see it. That you equate the two types of accidents makes it clear that perhaps it wasnt obvious for everyone... BK425 (who rides with a 12 hour rule, just like AT pilots)
I agree that car drivers have much of the risk in their own control as do motorcylcists. Cars generally trade active safety for passive safety, that is why (at a given neighborhood of cost) good motorcyclists value the greater control their vehicles offer. BK425
Re: full face helmets- In the Motorcycle Safety Foundation course that I took, they quoted from the Harm (a scientists name) study that 53% of first contacts in fatal accidents were the chin, while waving one of those bitchin looking novelty "helmets" (the bucket style things all the Hog riders like) around. I purchased a full face the next week with a very nice chin gaurd, cushy bottom air seal and add on intercom. Risk, risk management and hence safety is entirely a matter of knowledge and attitude (as they say in the MSF course). I know MANY (otherwise bright) car drivers with no knowledge of motorcycles and very little knowledge of their cars who are more then happy to dispense information to me about the dangers of motorcycling. I try to minimize the "nod time" I have to give them and urge them to develop perspective through gaining some knowledge (wish it worked more often). BK425
I don't agree that we aren't first in implementing new cell technologies, we are not the first in stacking people into tighter and tighter piles. A trend which totally drives the ceonomics behind this infrastructure and hence it's speed of deployment. However, I am also blown away by how many people here fail to see any benefit in "not being first" I agree that (while it doesn't in this case IMO) it certainly CAN have advantages. WE innovated broadcast television and we have long suffered the poorest quality image because of that powerful (in terms of number of users it dwarfs most other nations) standard. Innovation is good, but it doesn't always lead to having the most of the coolest toys IMO. bk425
"Only exists in Tokyo" is the clue stick here. You're little handset isn't the difficult technology of nationwide communications infrastructure, distance is. When you stack people up 20 stories atop one another (looks like a good place to live? hmmm) it reduces the technical complexity of installing and maintaining Telecom infrastructure significantly. (This is like saying the bullet train is somewhat more complicated then a kids wind up choo choo .)
I'm no big fan of the FCC, but this guys evaluation of these two radically different systems/circumstances is, well, not rigorous. BK425