I believe there is not only the problem of how much energy is needed to attain altitude, but the exit velocity is a factor. To leave the atmosphere, a certain velocity is needed to prevent either:
a) bouncing off the edge of the atmosphere or b) burning up during exit
Few things here -
1. I know where you can LEGALLY purchase all of the CDs, tapes, records, etc. that you want. Example, CDs: $1 to $7 CANADIAN FUNDS!!! it's called USED!!! Let someone else pay full price. And rest easy knowing that the RIAA never got any money fom you!! Check garage sales, flea markets, and thrift shops.
2. If you can hear it without distortion, If you can view it without distortion then there will always be at least one way to make a copy.
3. Whomever pointed out that it's not really about copying CDs, it's about making your own, hit the nail on the head. If everybody can produce their own music, make their own CDs, distribute it on the internet, etc. then the RIAA becomes irrelevant. It's like the iceman trying to sell you weekly blocks of ice 2 years after everybody got a fridge/freezer.
4. I personally won't buy any music that I haven't already listened to and enjoyed. If I can't download it, then I CAN'T buy it. I also won't go to a movie to watch a sucky movie. But if I download the movie and it's good, I'll take the whole family out to see it.
It sems to me that the article and all of the post simply discuss the ability to view someone's shared files, with the difference that the BBC article alludes to getting a random list of users.
OH NO!!! People can view my shared files. AAAHHHH!!
On a more serious note, I found a bug in an earlier version of Morpheus (I don't know if it still exists in 1.3). What happened was I specified that my shared folder would be C:\windows\media and all sub folders. I specified that my downloads should go to F:\. I noticed that I had far more files shared then I expected. What I found was that by specifying F:\ as my download location, F:\ and all subfolders, and all files in the subfolders, were shared. Even though in the fodler picker, F:\etc... was specifically NOT shared. I reported this bug at the time, and haven't checked since to see of it still exists. I make a point of creating a new folder for downloads, and therefore, with nothing under it, there is nothing for it to share. Come to think of it though, I have noticed that stuff I've just downloaded is often shown as immediately being uploaded, so I guess it still shares the downloads folder.
I agree. I am a reseller in British Columbia, Canada. The tax laws are a little bit more complex for us due to our federal taxes. FOr example, because I am only physically doing business in BC, I collect the following taxes:
In BC, all purchases are subject to 7% GST (federal goods and services tax),and 7% PST (provincial social service tax) except for books, children's clothing, items for resale, items that will be manufactured into other items, and items sold to the federal government, these items are all exempt from PST.
items sold to people in Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and Newfoundland I have to charge 15% HST (federal/provincial harmonized sales tax).
Anybody else in Canada pays GST only. except for status first nations, when the goods are shipped to their reserve and for use on the reserve, which are exempt from GST, as well as sales to the provincial government which are also exempt.
Any sales outside of Canaa are completely exempted from our taxes. However the importing country mey apply taxes or duties, and the buyer is supposed to voluntarily submit taxes.
SAme when I order something. I'm supposed to submit all the applicable taxes myself. If I'm ordering from a Canadian merchant, they'll already charge me GST. If I'm ordering from outside of Canada, I'm usually charged GST/PST/duty at the border when it clears customs.
I think there is a key here that most are missing. When you buy an OEM software, such as Windows bundled with a PC, you are buying software that has been dicounted on the basis of it being sold only with the hardware, is. COmpaq Presario xxx Serial number XXX. If you want to install LInux on that, and then sell Windows, fine. But to be legitamate, you'd either have to sell the hardware with it, or cough up the extra dough to MS to make up the difference to what you paid, and what the retail price is. If you don't like that, then oay full price to begin with. Likewise, I don't believe anbody buying a bundle like Adobe Collection or MS office has the right to sell off part of that bundle, unless they then pay the manufacturer the difference between the bundle price and the retail price of the product. Smae applies for upgrades. You get WinXP 1/2 price on the basis of already owning Win98/ME/NT/2K. If you then sell the previous version, you no longer qualify for the discount, and should only be allowed to sell the older one, if you pay the difference between an upgrade and retail.
WHat I DO support, however, is having the right to uninstall retail software and sell it. I've seen some games in the store recently that are online games, and they are tagged "NOT FOR RESALE BY ORIGINAL PURCHASER, NOT VALID FOR RETURN IF OPENED" Which means if you don't like it you're screwed.
Comparing the software license to the purchase of a car is not a valid comparison. You don't get a car bundled with something else, with an agreement that you're getting a discount because of the bundle. You also cannot make illegal copies of a car prior to selling it. THe only comparison that can be made to the purchase of a car is the purchase of complete retail software, and the resale of said COMPLETE software.
Why should yo uget a discount by meeting certain conditions and then no longer meet the conditions for the discount?
I believe there is not only the problem of how much energy is needed to attain altitude, but the exit velocity is a factor. To leave the atmosphere, a certain velocity is needed to prevent either:
a) bouncing off the edge of the atmosphere
or
b) burning up during exit
These are also factors on re-entry.
Few things here -
1. I know where you can LEGALLY purchase all of the CDs, tapes, records, etc. that you want. Example, CDs: $1 to $7 CANADIAN FUNDS!!! it's called USED!!! Let someone else pay full price. And rest easy knowing that the RIAA never got any money fom you!! Check garage sales, flea markets, and thrift shops.
2. If you can hear it without distortion, If you can view it without distortion then there will always be at least one way to make a copy.
3. Whomever pointed out that it's not really about copying CDs, it's about making your own, hit the nail on the head. If everybody can produce their own music, make their own CDs, distribute it on the internet, etc. then the RIAA becomes irrelevant. It's like the iceman trying to sell you weekly blocks of ice 2 years after everybody got a fridge/freezer.
4. I personally won't buy any music that I haven't already listened to and enjoyed. If I can't download it, then I CAN'T buy it. I also won't go to a movie to watch a sucky movie. But if I download the movie and it's good, I'll take the whole family out to see it.
It sems to me that the article and all of the post simply discuss the ability to view someone's shared files, with the difference that the BBC article alludes to getting a random list of users.
OH NO!!! People can view my shared files. AAAHHHH!!
On a more serious note, I found a bug in an earlier version of Morpheus (I don't know if it still exists in 1.3). What happened was I specified that my shared folder would be C:\windows\media and all sub folders. I specified that my downloads should go to F:\. I noticed that I had far more files shared then I expected. What I found was that by specifying F:\ as my download location, F:\ and all subfolders, and all files in the subfolders, were shared. Even though in the fodler picker, F:\etc... was specifically NOT shared. I reported this bug at the time, and haven't checked since to see of it still exists. I make a point of creating a new folder for downloads, and therefore, with nothing under it, there is nothing for it to share. Come to think of it though, I have noticed that stuff I've just downloaded is often shown as immediately being uploaded, so I guess it still shares the downloads folder.
Watch out for this.
I agree. I am a reseller in British Columbia, Canada. The tax laws are a little bit more complex for us due to our federal taxes. FOr example, because I am only physically doing business in BC, I collect the following taxes:
,and 7% PST (provincial social service tax) except for books, children's clothing, items for resale, items that will be manufactured into other items, and items sold to the federal government, these items are all exempt from PST.
In BC, all purchases are subject to 7% GST (federal goods and services tax)
items sold to people in Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and Newfoundland I have to charge 15% HST (federal/provincial harmonized sales tax).
Anybody else in Canada pays GST only. except for status first nations, when the goods are shipped to their reserve and for use on the reserve, which are exempt from GST, as well as sales to the provincial government which are also exempt.
Any sales outside of Canaa are completely exempted from our taxes. However the importing country mey apply taxes or duties, and the buyer is supposed to voluntarily submit taxes.
SAme when I order something. I'm supposed to submit all the applicable taxes myself. If I'm ordering from a Canadian merchant, they'll already charge me GST. If I'm ordering from outside of Canada, I'm usually charged GST/PST/duty at the border when it clears customs.
I think there is a key here that most are missing. When you buy an OEM software, such as Windows bundled with a PC, you are buying software that has been dicounted on the basis of it being sold only with the hardware, is. COmpaq Presario xxx Serial number XXX. If you want to install LInux on that, and then sell Windows, fine. But to be legitamate, you'd either have to sell the hardware with it, or cough up the extra dough to MS to make up the difference to what you paid, and what the retail price is. If you don't like that, then oay full price to begin with. Likewise, I don't believe anbody buying a bundle like Adobe Collection or MS office has the right to sell off part of that bundle, unless they then pay the manufacturer the difference between the bundle price and the retail price of the product. Smae applies for upgrades. You get WinXP 1/2 price on the basis of already owning Win98/ME/NT/2K. If you then sell the previous version, you no longer qualify for the discount, and should only be allowed to sell the older one, if you pay the difference between an upgrade and retail.
WHat I DO support, however, is having the right to uninstall retail software and sell it. I've seen some games in the store recently that are online games, and they are tagged "NOT FOR RESALE BY ORIGINAL PURCHASER, NOT VALID FOR RETURN IF OPENED" Which means if you don't like it you're screwed.
Comparing the software license to the purchase of a car is not a valid comparison. You don't get a car bundled with something else, with an agreement that you're getting a discount because of the bundle. You also cannot make illegal copies of a car prior to selling it. THe only comparison that can be made to the purchase of a car is the purchase of complete retail software, and the resale of said COMPLETE software.
Why should yo uget a discount by meeting certain conditions and then no longer meet the conditions for the discount?