the cost of inserting copy protection (both in file size and time) can be soewhat biggr then desired, and batteling the SN theifs is constant - the point is ambrosia is a BUSINESS and they are trying to STAY WITH US USERS - and they do a prety good job, your looking at it as a hobbist, they are profesionals and they DO A PROFESIONAL JOB.
yea i did and then i read the comments here,
basically
its a game so i dont use it much so i wont pay
well HECK if you
like it
want more
pay
get more
pay for more
get more
visicious cycle of you getting good games at good price continues!!!!
i can imagine that people with optus@home cable could do the gateway as thats unlimited... however the gateway would really get hammered, i wouldnt be surprised if their were a few gateways on the network but people didnt tell anyone thaty they had a gateway setup at home.. thus they personally get internet wherever they are in all of sydney....
sounds wonderfull though;)
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i think you will find that most "porn readers" generally follow their fav actor/ess and the rest of the porn is of no interest.
as such i think you will find that people get more out of interacting with real people (when they do) then the used to, i know i really do enjoy an evening at the pub with some intelecutally stimulating conversation, and the opertunity to meet a genuinually intersting person at the same time is fantastic - i do think that im more aware through being conected and as such have had the opertunity to enhance my own oppinions to a point i do feel i can successfully argue my viewpoint on many topics - and i have the net to thank for this!
The way it is here (Alice Springs) is that there is some 12 ISP's who claim to offer internet access locally, upon contacting them, its more like 8 - of those only one offers ADSL (telstra)
their are options like satalite however its far to costly for anyone i know, even if you have your own hardware telstra INSIST you purchase theirs...
this is also the case for adsl - i rang telstra today and said "im going on holidays and i dont want to give the person housesitting my adsl account cause i know they will use over my limet - can we set up a seperate account for them just for the month - nope, minimum period is 3 months and you still have to pay the connection charges and buy the adsl router from us - i proceeded to explain that i had a router the person woud use and that the connection was already established because i was using it... no matter what i said they wanted to milk me for every cent) you see telstra DONT CARE
I have an interest in satalite technoligy and have the required lmb's i told the guy from telstra - i also said i had the required dish for satalite, again i could only get it if i purchased everything from them
further to being in remote australia some readers may find it intresting that "remote australians" are not looking for crazy subsidisation because we KNOW that should things be fairly priced elsewhere it wouldnt be such a big deal - a ISDN SPC can be relativly CHEEP if you want to run your own data on it between your own offices, its when you want to place internet trafic on it and connect your isdn to an isp that your charges grow so drasticly - living here in alice i expect to pay about 15% on top of the average sydney price but local ISP's are still charging 60$ a month for a 150meg download limet on a regular 336 modem account
a big problem is that people WANT to listen to online music and communicate accross the world while working from home, this CAN NOT HAPPEN - and people dont want to JUST USE what TELSTRA have neet little arrangements for, its not the telstranet its the internet - the "free sites" thing is nice, but they are not that good and it really removes the idea of being on the internet - if your going to have free sites have *everything that doesnt go accross international carriers* and this is prety easy to see with tracert / traceroute folks
i dont see the justification behind charging on a per use structure (telstra own the company they buy from), i have work collegues in england who get 100% free adsl, it came with their telehone...
the way i see it is IMHO the legistators dont understand what they are legistating and so dont understand how to draft up the legistation to take effect properly - they are too old and cant grasp the ideas properly its obvious they want to acheive certain things, but they dont know how to acheive it so write sill blanket laws...
telstra charge for LOCAL TRAFIC within their own network for crying out loud, how can this be alloud - technically they charge for person 1 to send data to peson 2 on the telstra network however person 2 on the network doesnt get charged for the data they get from person 1 (CRAZY!!!! - i cant even play games with my neighbours without being charged or running ethernet over the back fence)
in the week straight after getting adsl i was portscanned constantly from all over the place - at first i was worried, but now i just filter it out, but i DO FEEL like im getting ripped paying for incomming trafic that i didnt ask for because someone on the internet took an intrest... i also "hear" that telstra include the PPOE encapuslation packet data in your 'data charge' so your 3gig is actually 20% less as the ppoe packet encapusliation is roughly 20% of the data... AND they "redefine" 3gig as 3000MB even though their own website's FAQ defines a bite as 1024 bits - i wonder if i should worrie about some redefination of MB at 1000 bytes thus actually reducing the 3gig limet even further
but dont worrie telsta is not just rude when it comes to adsl - for instance you will be charged 3$ a month to NOT BE LISTED IN THE PHONEBOOK - now thats just crazy - a monthly ongoing charge for not wasteing paper.... is that legal??? perhaps i should finish here for risk of going OT or OTT
just like drug trafficing laws - if you have an unopened parcel on the kitchen table and DEA walks in and wants to arrest you cause the box contains drugs (but you havent opened the box and discovered that yet) - and name someone who doesnt get SPAM - so now if i dont like someone in china i should spam them anti-china and anti china govt material and they will get arrested for being anti china... yea allright! (sorry i am sure their is a better way to say what im trying to say, ill be more thoughtfull in the future)
im sorry Jane just went on maternity leave - we dont need her lisence this year, i think we will suspend Jane's lisence and activate it next year when she is back... how many "unused" computers do you walk past in your office?? - im sorry lets lisence this product not on a yearly basis but since its a computer, we can monitor its uptime and lisence each component on a per use basis, so from now on if you dont use your cd-rom drive, you dont pay for it, afterall your not using that "service" are you...now as for network drivers, well your using them - so now we are going to monitor your network trafic and the more you use your network to get to those ASP's the more we will charge you for using that service, afterall its all about making money - opp's providing a service incidently did i forget to mention the charge associated with your cd-rom drive is 100 times less per "use" (as caclulated by our complex algrothyms that monitor data/audio spin speed bitrate and ide bus utilisation vs audio out and headphone use - which we dont understand ourselves either) then that of our network services - and for those paranoid people please remember we are not examining the content of your network trafic and this is definatly not the reason why your network cards run slower in our opperating system then in linux
So i read you think MS should be liable when they sell me office but not when they give me internet explorer or the free outlook light... (express)
ROFLMAO
"But software that is free, free as in free beer, should not be liable. I've always felt that if you are providing something for free, and you don't force it into people's hands, those people should understand the risks of using it. "
i dont know HOW it works, but i DO REMEMBER entering in HEAPS (probably a hundred or two) albums in the early days...
i never got paid narthing for that - go free and public!
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the cost of inserting copy protection (both in file size and time) can be soewhat biggr then desired, and batteling the SN theifs is constant - the point is ambrosia is a BUSINESS and they are trying to STAY WITH US USERS - and they do a prety good job, your looking at it as a hobbist, they are profesionals and they DO A PROFESIONAL JOB.
yea i did and then i read the comments here, basically
its a game so i dont use it much so i wont pay
well HECK if you
like it
want more
pay
get more
pay for more
get more
visicious cycle of you getting good games at good price continues!!!!
*mod me down - you dont want to hear it anyway*
i can imagine that people with optus@home cable could do the gateway as thats unlimited... however the gateway would really get hammered, i wouldnt be surprised if their were a few gateways on the network but people didnt tell anyone thaty they had a gateway setup at home.. thus they personally get internet wherever they are in all of sydney.... sounds wonderfull though ;)
i think you will find that most "porn readers" generally follow their fav actor/ess and the rest of the porn is of no interest.
as such i think you will find that people get more out of interacting with real people (when they do) then the used to, i know i really do enjoy an evening at the pub with some intelecutally stimulating conversation, and the opertunity to meet a genuinually intersting person at the same time is fantastic - i do think that im more aware through being conected and as such have had the opertunity to enhance my own oppinions to a point i do feel i can successfully argue my viewpoint on many topics - and i have the net to thank for this!
The way it is here (Alice Springs) is that there is some 12 ISP's who claim to offer internet access locally, upon contacting them, its more like 8 - of those only one offers ADSL (telstra)
their are options like satalite however its far to costly for anyone i know, even if you have your own hardware telstra INSIST you purchase theirs...
this is also the case for adsl - i rang telstra today and said "im going on holidays and i dont want to give the person housesitting my adsl account cause i know they will use over my limet - can we set up a seperate account for them just for the month - nope, minimum period is 3 months and you still have to pay the connection charges and buy the adsl router from us - i proceeded to explain that i had a router the person woud use and that the connection was already established because i was using it... no matter what i said they wanted to milk me for every cent) you see telstra DONT CARE
I have an interest in satalite technoligy and have the required lmb's i told the guy from telstra - i also said i had the required dish for satalite, again i could only get it if i purchased everything from them
further to being in remote australia some readers may find it intresting that "remote australians" are not looking for crazy subsidisation because we KNOW that should things be fairly priced elsewhere it wouldnt be such a big deal - a ISDN SPC can be relativly CHEEP if you want to run your own data on it between your own offices, its when you want to place internet trafic on it and connect your isdn to an isp that your charges grow so drasticly - living here in alice i expect to pay about 15% on top of the average sydney price but local ISP's are still charging 60$ a month for a 150meg download limet on a regular 336 modem account
a big problem is that people WANT to listen to online music and communicate accross the world while working from home, this CAN NOT HAPPEN - and people dont want to JUST USE what TELSTRA have neet little arrangements for, its not the telstranet its the internet - the "free sites" thing is nice, but they are not that good and it really removes the idea of being on the internet - if your going to have free sites have *everything that doesnt go accross international carriers* and this is prety easy to see with tracert / traceroute folks
i dont see the justification behind charging on a per use structure (telstra own the company they buy from), i have work collegues in england who get 100% free adsl, it came with their telehone...
the way i see it is IMHO the legistators dont understand what they are legistating and so dont understand how to draft up the legistation to take effect properly - they are too old and cant grasp the ideas properly its obvious they want to acheive certain things, but they dont know how to acheive it so write sill blanket laws...
telstra charge for LOCAL TRAFIC within their own network for crying out loud, how can this be alloud - technically they charge for person 1 to send data to peson 2 on the telstra network however person 2 on the network doesnt get charged for the data they get from person 1 (CRAZY!!!! - i cant even play games with my neighbours without being charged or running ethernet over the back fence)
in the week straight after getting adsl i was portscanned constantly from all over the place - at first i was worried, but now i just filter it out, but i DO FEEL like im getting ripped paying for incomming trafic that i didnt ask for because someone on the internet took an intrest... i also "hear" that telstra include the PPOE encapuslation packet data in your 'data charge' so your 3gig is actually 20% less as the ppoe packet encapusliation is roughly 20% of the data... AND they "redefine" 3gig as 3000MB even though their own website's FAQ defines a bite as 1024 bits - i wonder if i should worrie about some redefination of MB at 1000 bytes thus actually reducing the 3gig limet even further
but dont worrie telsta is not just rude when it comes to adsl - for instance you will be charged 3$ a month to NOT BE LISTED IN THE PHONEBOOK - now thats just crazy - a monthly ongoing charge for not wasteing paper.... is that legal??? perhaps i should finish here for risk of going OT or OTT
just like drug trafficing laws - if you have an unopened parcel on the kitchen table and DEA walks in and wants to arrest you cause the box contains drugs (but you havent opened the box and discovered that yet) - and name someone who doesnt get SPAM - so now if i dont like someone in china i should spam them anti-china and anti china govt material and they will get arrested for being anti china... yea allright! (sorry i am sure their is a better way to say what im trying to say, ill be more thoughtfull in the future)
im sorry Jane just went on maternity leave - we dont need her lisence this year, i think we will suspend Jane's lisence and activate it next year when she is back... how many "unused" computers do you walk past in your office?? - im sorry lets lisence this product not on a yearly basis but since its a computer, we can monitor its uptime and lisence each component on a per use basis, so from now on if you dont use your cd-rom drive, you dont pay for it, afterall your not using that "service" are you...now as for network drivers, well your using them - so now we are going to monitor your network trafic and the more you use your network to get to those ASP's the more we will charge you for using that service, afterall its all about making money - opp's providing a service incidently did i forget to mention the charge associated with your cd-rom drive is 100 times less per "use" (as caclulated by our complex algrothyms that monitor data/audio spin speed bitrate and ide bus utilisation vs audio out and headphone use - which we dont understand ourselves either) then that of our network services - and for those paranoid people please remember we are not examining the content of your network trafic and this is definatly not the reason why your network cards run slower in our opperating system then in linux
So i read you think MS should be liable when they sell me office but not when they give me internet explorer or the free outlook light... (express) ROFLMAO "But software that is free, free as in free beer, should not be liable. I've always felt that if you are providing something for free, and you don't force it into people's hands, those people should understand the risks of using it. "
i dont know HOW it works, but i DO REMEMBER entering in HEAPS (probably a hundred or two) albums in the early days... i never got paid narthing for that - go free and public!