Except that in this case, the "parents" aren't just using Facebook to communicate to the "kids". They are using it for various groups (photo clubs, family get togethers, professional organizations, etc). You now have a mass of people who are wired into Facebook because it is actually USEFUL, and they don't have any reason to move.
Before you go too far down this road, you might want to read some sci-fi Larry Niven wrote back in 70's (I believe). It was set in a future where the market for organs was booming and sale of organs was legal. And as a result, the death penalty had a good revival. After all, that convicted axe murderer could end up saving more lives than he took, if you disassembled him for spare parts. Given that we all want to live longer, who would oppose extending the death penalty?
What I forgot to mention was that I gave up on my grandmother's mixer not because it stopped working, but because the socket where the beaters plugged in was physically getting worn down and it was harder and harder to get the beaters to mesh in. That old mixer was an absolute tank.
Anecdotal support for this: years and years ago I finally gave up on my mixer (which was an antique that was handed down from the my grandmother) and decided to buy a fairly high end mixer. It died within a year. I bought a cheapo hand mixer, thinking that it would die in a few years but at least I wouldn't be out much. That was at least 15 years ago and it's still going strong.
Fine. I'll follow you around for a day screaming in your ear. We'll see how long you go before you completely freak out.
This isn't walking past someone talking on their phone in public... this is 6 hours of listening some moron who thinks the world will end if they can't talk on the phone. Banning this kind of thing because lots of people don't like it is an excellent idea.
Here's the way I see it. The texter is asked to stop texting. Texter doesn't seen any reason to not annoy people and keeps going. Theater-goer who wants to just watch movie in peace tries to find a manager and fails. Texter IS STILL texting when theater-goer comes back. Argument starts up and gets out of hand.
All of which could have been avoided if texter had shown even the slightest consideration, e.g. moved to back of theater or out into corridor. No fight, everyone still alive.
My theater displays a "please turn off your phones" BEFORE the previews. It shows the previews and then launches into "the main event" without any pause of interruption. In fact, the only way you know it isn't yet another preview is that there wasn't a "this preview is rated xyz" banner.
When I hear news like this I'm sad that such a trivial incident escalated into a fight and then a shooting. Given that the texter didn't care about what was showing, when he found out he was annoying someone, why not just walk to the back of the theater or into the corridor and text from there? It didn't have to become a confrontation.
That's not the alternative. Just compare trying to live on another world (say Mars) with the worst, most hostile, most resource depleted area on Earth. Earth is easier. Air to breath, a natural radiation shield, etc. I'd love to see humans on another world but we need to find another reason than "OMG we need to get off this rock!"
Do you think that governments hand out lists of their agents? "Here, Russia, here's a list of the Americans you should spy on. Leave the rest of them alone."
I use a dumb phone. It's tiny, it fits in my pocket, it's indestructible, it always gets signal, it doesn't have to be "held right". Remind me why I'm "going away"?
It sets you apart from everyone else. It says you not only had $1,500 to plunk down to be part of the “explorer” program, but that Google deemed you special enough to warrant inclusion (not everyone who wanted Glass got it; you had to be selected). Glass is a class divide on your face.
Really? You point a video recording device at people and you think they are getting annoyed because you are so elite? That comment says way more about the author of the article than it does about the people he interacted with.
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Except that in this case, the "parents" aren't just using Facebook to communicate to the "kids". They are using it for various groups (photo clubs, family get togethers, professional organizations, etc). You now have a mass of people who are wired into Facebook because it is actually USEFUL, and they don't have any reason to move.
Google+ is DOA
Before you go too far down this road, you might want to read some sci-fi Larry Niven wrote back in 70's (I believe). It was set in a future where the market for organs was booming and sale of organs was legal. And as a result, the death penalty had a good revival. After all, that convicted axe murderer could end up saving more lives than he took, if you disassembled him for spare parts. Given that we all want to live longer, who would oppose extending the death penalty?
What I forgot to mention was that I gave up on my grandmother's mixer not because it stopped working, but because the socket where the beaters plugged in was physically getting worn down and it was harder and harder to get the beaters to mesh in. That old mixer was an absolute tank.
Anecdotal support for this: years and years ago I finally gave up on my mixer (which was an antique that was handed down from the my grandmother) and decided to buy a fairly high end mixer. It died within a year. I bought a cheapo hand mixer, thinking that it would die in a few years but at least I wouldn't be out much. That was at least 15 years ago and it's still going strong.
Obviously you never sat in such a plane. I did. Trust me, all of the smoke did not "exit aft".
Fine. I'll follow you around for a day screaming in your ear. We'll see how long you go before you completely freak out.
This isn't walking past someone talking on their phone in public... this is 6 hours of listening some moron who thinks the world will end if they can't talk on the phone. Banning this kind of thing because lots of people don't like it is an excellent idea.
Wow... a rational comment on Slashdot!
So you are saying that since we can't avoid all annoyances, we should just accept every possible annoyance. That's what you want?
Well, if he does, we know how that's going to turn out. Oh yeah, guess the Chinese government is worse than the United States.
You're asking people to break out of Slashthink... pretty unlikely.
Really? Suggesting that the texter could have avoided the incident by moving to the back of the theater is modded "Troll"?
Here's the way I see it. The texter is asked to stop texting. Texter doesn't seen any reason to not annoy people and keeps going. Theater-goer who wants to just watch movie in peace tries to find a manager and fails. Texter IS STILL texting when theater-goer comes back. Argument starts up and gets out of hand.
All of which could have been avoided if texter had shown even the slightest consideration, e.g. moved to back of theater or out into corridor. No fight, everyone still alive.
Finally... a reasonable post. Wish I had some mod points.
My theater displays a "please turn off your phones" BEFORE the previews. It shows the previews and then launches into "the main event" without any pause of interruption. In fact, the only way you know it isn't yet another preview is that there wasn't a "this preview is rated xyz" banner.
When I hear news like this I'm sad that such a trivial incident escalated into a fight and then a shooting. Given that the texter didn't care about what was showing, when he found out he was annoying someone, why not just walk to the back of the theater or into the corridor and text from there? It didn't have to become a confrontation.
So Australia didn't have oxygen? In Siberia, you need a radiation shield?
You just don't get it. Compared to Mars, virtually all locations on Earth are equally habitable
That's not the alternative. Just compare trying to live on another world (say Mars) with the worst, most hostile, most resource depleted area on Earth. Earth is easier. Air to breath, a natural radiation shield, etc. I'd love to see humans on another world but we need to find another reason than "OMG we need to get off this rock!"
oooooooooooooooooooooo wow heavy man.
Do you think that governments hand out lists of their agents? "Here, Russia, here's a list of the Americans you should spy on. Leave the rest of them alone."
News flash - you can access the Internet without using a smartphone.
oh, and I somehow manage to survive without monitoring Facebook and Twitter 24x7.
You mean the led that I covered over so no one can tell I'm recording?
I use a dumb phone. It's tiny, it fits in my pocket, it's indestructible, it always gets signal, it doesn't have to be "held right". Remind me why I'm "going away"?
It sets you apart from everyone else. It says you not only had $1,500 to plunk down to be part of the “explorer” program, but that Google deemed you special enough to warrant inclusion (not everyone who wanted Glass got it; you had to be selected). Glass is a class divide on your face.
Really? You point a video recording device at people and you think they are getting annoyed because you are so elite? That comment says way more about the author of the article than it does about the people he interacted with.